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Got my Infinity yesterday - loving it so far. I was worried after all the negativity on the forums over the last few weeks, but I couldn't be happier.
My one issue is with the brightness of the screen. I know some people have taken issue with the auto-dimming feature. I have the complete opposite problem - I can't adjust the brightness of my screen! Moving from balanced to power saving to performance makes no difference. Turning on Super IPS? No difference.
Am I doing something bone-headed? Anyone else have this problem?
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Got my Infinity yesterday - loving it so far. I was worried after all the negativity on the forums over the last few weeks, but I couldn't be happier.
My one issue is with the brightness of the screen. I know some people have taken issue with the auto-dimming feature. I have the complete opposite problem - I can't adjust the brightness of my screen! Moving from balanced to power saving to performance makes no difference. Turning on Super IPS? No difference.
Am I doing something bone-headed? Anyone else have this problem?
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Just tried a factory reset - made no difference whatsoever. No matter what setting I choose for screen brightness, it never changes....
Any ideas? Should I just return it?
LiquidRock said:
Just tried a factory reset - made no difference whatsoever. No matter what setting I choose for screen brightness, it never changes....
Any ideas? Should I just return it?
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It appears that there is a issue, if you reset the tablet and its the same you should exchange it. Try the small reset hole also.
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Did any firmware update happen?
grneyez said:
It appears that there is a issue, if you reset the tablet and its the same you should exchange it. Try the small reset hole also.
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Would I use the reset hole when the tablet is on or off?
Many thanks
Andrew
When the tablet is on.
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KangLx said:
Did any firmware update happen?
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Yes, I upgraded to the new firmware when I first set up the tablet
LiquidRock said:
Yes, I upgraded to the new firmware when I first set up the tablet
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Don't know if that makes a difference as I am running the updated firmware with no issue.
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Don't know if that makes a difference as I am running the updated firmware with no issue.
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It's very strange - the screen itself is beautiful and responsive to touch. It's just it appears the brightness cannot be altered!
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It's very strange - the screen itself is beautiful and responsive to touch. It's just it appears the brightness cannot be altered!
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If you touch ISP and Auto brightness does it do anything?
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If you touch ISP and Auto brightness does it do anything?
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No. I can move the slider up and down the scale, but it doesn't have any effect on the brightness. Very strange.
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No. I can move the slider up and down the scale, but it doesn't have any effect on the brightness. Very strange.
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Send it back and get a replacement, not worth the aggravation.
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Send it back and get a replacement, not worth the aggravation.
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Sadly, that looks like what I'll be doing
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Sadly, that looks like what I'll be doing
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Hopefully the replacement works out for you. Good luck.
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hope this video illustrates the problem
I took this short video to try and better illustrate the problem:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJks5di45iE&feature=youtu.be
Anyone got any ideas? I can return it to Amazon fairly painlessly, but it's a shame as otherwise it's a great bit of kit.
Grateful for any additional thoughts people might have.
LiquidRock said:
I took this short video to try and better illustrate the problem:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJks5di45iE&feature=youtu.be
Anyone got any ideas? I can return it to Amazon fairly painlessly, but it's a shame as otherwise it's a great bit of kit.
Grateful for any additional thoughts people might have.
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Your issue more than likely will not be solved on the forums anytime soon. Amazon is very good at exchanging defective items usually shipping it the next day. Your stressing over this to much, and you don't have to. It cost you nothing to exchange the tablet.
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Same thing
Just wanted to let you know I'm having the same problem. I've tried a factory restore as well still no brightness control. Thing that sucks is I returned my prime for a screen defect, now I get a faulty infinity. I'm beginning to question asus quality at this point and starting to think about perhaps getting a Google nexus 7 even with its limitations.
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Just wanted to let you know I'm having the same problem. I've tried a factory restore as well still no brightness control. Thing that sucks is I returned my prime for a screen defect, now I get a faulty infinity. I'm beginning to question asus quality at this point and starting to think about perhaps getting a Google nexus 7 even with its limitations.
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Isnt Asus building the GN7 also?
Either way, defects will happen. Send it to back and Amazon will make it right -- it's worth the two days. I've had none of the problems that people are describing with their Infinitys
Good point cinco5 ugh. I forgot they manufactured it. They are at 2strikes, I guess I'll give them 3.
Has anyone had issues with random reboots with their TF700 or is it just me. I know the older Transformers had issues but I am experiencing that issue on my Prime Infinity and wondering if it is a software issue and if I should just wait for an update or if I should try returning it.
Try returning it... I only ran stock for a few days but i have never had a random reboot
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I was getting them initially. Tried a factory reset and restored all of my apps with only minimal data and still got them.
Then did a factory reset again, started restoring apps one at a time only as needed from Google Play, no Tibu. I did this slowly, installing two or three at a time and then using the system for an hour or more to verify non-flakiness. Did not install an alternate launcher (had been using Apex). Avoided freemium games that do push notifications. No major problems since.
Did find at least one app that may be problematic: Google Voice seems unstable for me. There were couple of others too, IIRC, but that's the one that sticks out in my head because I use it fairly regularly. Did not reinstall a lot of stuff that I never actually used.
The process was painful but highly recommended. As the system becomes heavily loaded it tends have a lot of junk that is running all the time and taking up memory, etc, which is a real issue for ASUS' ICS firmware. This is why games are flaky on the TF and is probably the source of a lot of the seemingly random weirdness that seems to only affect some people but not others, IMHO, because it makes the system too sensitive to what you have installed/running on your box which is different for everyone.
This why a factory reset seems to magically fix everything, too, because all of that cruft gets wiped until you start reinstalling all this junk and firing off all the associated processes (which in turn start background services/process, etc).
I will still occasionally run FMR memory cleaner when the machine is acting laggy or something crashes (usually gmail, lol) and everything clears right up. My two previous TF201s and my other TF700 were ALL like this. I'm convinced it's an ASUS firmware/kernel issue. I'm hopeful JB fixes it but have learned to pay attention to what I put on the thing in the mean time and it is running better than ever.
rooted, btw.
I've had my Infinity for a little over a month and within the last week or so I've had random system crashes. Thought I figured out what app it was and it had stopped crashing but now it started in again late last night.wondering if its a hardware issue. Gut feeling is that I should go exchange it at Best Buy and just play it safe. I am rooted and also wondering if this could possibly be a reason as well.
What I have found is that the Infinity becomes very unstable when memory gets below 200mb. I am using the Cool Tool widget to show available RAM and noticed that it would frequently get below 200mb with general use. I have since set background processes limit to at most 2 and this keeps my RAM about 300mb and above. It limits multi taking a bit, but has been much more stable.
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I have the same random reboots... not a good start with the new tf700t
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I returned mine for this issue. I had 4/5 freeze and random reboots in a day also after a full wipe. Not a good tablet. I liked only the display because it had a lot of problems.
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I had these random reboots at the beginning. Do you have a µSD card inserted in your TF700 (not the dock) ? I did and this was the cause of the reboots.
Once removed, no more reboots.
Hope this could help you.
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I have an SD card in the tablet. Hoping today's ota fixes the reboot problem. Also, I've seen it happen twice where after having a series of reboots the tablet has a firmware update. I am wondering if the crashes have anything to do with the tablet calling home to Asus.
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I have an SD card in the tablet. Hoping today's ota fixes the reboot problem. Also, I've seen it happen twice where after having a series of reboots the tablet has a firmware update. I am wondering if the crashes have anything to do with the tablet calling home to Asus.
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same here!! lots of random reboots for me too!! I read a lot of comics on my infinity!! And i get random reboots when I am trying to open the viewers sometimes!!!
I had lots of reboots and and freezes freezes on my first infinity so I exchanged it out.. my second one has started doing it again after 2 wks.
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I had lots of reboots and and freezes freezes on my first infinity so I exchanged it out.. my second one has started doing it again after 2 wks.
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Hehehehe... nice to know when the second device also does that! So mostly the problem is software related!
Coz it would be tough for me to exchange it since I'm not in US!
Current devices:
Galaxy Nexus
Nexus S
Nexus 7
Asus Transformer Infinity
I used to have them but after a limiting background processes to 4 I have had zero reboots. Also games don't crash anymore. There is something seriously messed up with the memory allocation.
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CandyAndy said:
I used to have them but after a limiting background processes to 4 I have had zero reboots. Also games don't crash anymore. There is something seriously messed up with the memory allocation.
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Is it? Cool... I'll also try that trick and update how it goes!
Current devices:
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Nexus S
Nexus 7
Asus Transformer Infinity
CandyAndy said:
I used to have them but after a limiting background processes to 4 I have had zero reboots. Also games don't crash anymore. There is something seriously messed up with the memory allocation.
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So what affect does that setting really have (limiting background processes to 4) - does that just mean that you can only *truly* multi-task 4 apps? I've always wondered exactly what that setting really did...
Thanks.
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jtrosky said:
So what affect does that setting really have (limiting background processes to 4) - does that just mean that you can only *truly* multi-task 4 apps? I've always wondered exactly what that setting really did...
Thanks.
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Yes I think so. 4 is actually that much of apps that this is quite a good compromise between stability and multitasking. And either way this doesn't have "true" multitasking as for example youtube videos stop playing when going to other screen. Which is actually very annoying and thats one of the reasons why this really can't be laptop replacement.
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I used to have them but after a limiting background processes to 4 I have had zero reboots. Also games don't crash anymore. There is something seriously messed up with the memory allocation.
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Cool thanx! Tried that trick and haven't had any reboots since!
Current devices:
Galaxy Nexus
Nexus S
Nexus 7
Asus Transformer Infinity
I had my first random reboot since the .30 update, so the issues has not been eliminated.
Man, I would be *livid* if my TF700 had random reboots! Part of the reason I bought the TF700 was because my old TF101 has had random reboot issues with ICS (if I NVFlash Honeycomb it's stable as a rock). I haven't had a single random reboot with my TF700 though - and believe me, I watch for it (mainly via uptime widget)...
Have you guys always had random reboots since you purchased it??
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So if we're thinking memory allocation is the issue here, I wonder if the V6 Supercharge would help out. I use it on my phone and it's incredible. I installed half of it on my tf700 earlier today, but I have to wait till I'm at a real computer before I apply the rest of the changes.
As a disclaimer, I've not had these random reboots, neither before nor after the OTA, though sometimes games will refuse to load with that whole nvidia issue. Haven't seen that for a little bit though either.
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I am noticing an issue with a screen flicker in some applications with a line drawing across the screen for a split second. It occurs most when using rdp apps but just saw it happen while typing this post. it's about 3/4 of the way up the screen when in landscape. Usually a black line that disappears quickly, like a graphics corruption issue. Already did a factory reset, saw the same thing on another tf700... anyone else?
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I am noticing an issue with a screen flicker in some applications with a line drawing across the screen for a split second. It occurs most when using rdp apps but just saw it happen while typing this post. it's about 3/4 of the way up the screen when in landscape. Usually a black line that disappears quickly, like a graphics corruption issue. Already did a factory reset, saw the same thing on another tf700... anyone else?
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Same thing for me after update to JB. Copilot and Cool reader.
You're not crazy, saw this happen while using the Nook app as well. I hope ASUS is aware of this bug
I've been noticing this issue in Tapatalk the most - probably because it's most noticeable on a white background...
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same here.... mostly with apps that are being resized because they are not fully for tablets
I am seeing this more and more, and not just with resized apps. Just had it with the gallery.... i have seen this with 3 infinity tabs so far and they were all bought at different times. I can only describe it as a graphics driver issue, anyone else seeing this?
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Same here.
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Same for me too unfortunately. I can't even play Horn, GTA3, Black Ops Zombies, or any graphic intense game. It really sucks! Horn worked just fine until the last OTA I accepted. Still on ICS, havent taken the JB update as I'm gonna unlock bootloader and get nvflash going first. Hoping I can cure the issue with a custom Rom *crossing fingers*
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Same for me too unfortunately. I can't even play Horn, GTA3, Black Ops Zombies, or any graphic intense game. It really sucks! Horn worked just fine until the last OTA I accepted. Still on ICS, havent taken the JB update as I'm gonna unlock bootloader and get nvflash going first. Hoping I can cure the issue with a custom Rom *crossing fingers*
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You got black ops zombies working...? how???
Do I keep my tf700t since this is my second and has those flickering black lines for a few seconds. Or try another one? Not sure if this is software or hardware issue. I'm getting mixed answers. I don't want to give it up for one with more problems. This thing runs flawless otherwise.
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Darn really having issues with quotes.
Well I had flickering issues with wild blood the game I'm playing but never had issues with the tablet itself after it happened.
Are you running stock of a custom rom?
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lovey08 said:
Darn really having issues with quotes.
Well I had flickering issues with wild blood the game I'm playing but never had issues with the tablet itself after it happened.
Are you running stock of a custom rom?
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Just got it 2 days ago. Still stock for now. But I heard it was an issue with jelly bean. Did not happen with ICS. Going to unlock and root and re flash back to see. I've heard it fixes it.
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Hello everyone, I have tf300 with 4.2.1 rooted and busybox installed
It had been amazing but just today, I got a random reboot when I was watching videos with YouTube app.
This isn't a thread where someone goes "baaaaaaaaaaaa somethings wrong!!! Someone help" but I just want to know whether or not it's a problem with my tablet (maybe a bad flash or something) or it is an actual firmware problem.
Thanks!
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kyokeun1234 said:
Hello everyone, I have tf300 with 4.2.1 rooted and busybox installed
It had been amazing but just today, I got a random reboot when I was watching videos with YouTube app.
This isn't a thread where someone goes "baaaaaaaaaaaa somethings wrong!!! Someone help" but I just want to know whether or not it's a problem with my tablet (maybe a bad flash or something) or it is an actual firmware problem.
Thanks!
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I get it like you say randomly always when my tf300 is under load or after doing some activity. Upload, download, videos but your not the only one. Just got mine week ago go and updated to 4.2.1 right after got it so didn't know if it was happening on previous builds but im unlocked and not rooted yet but get it some times. Hope theres a fix for it make device hang once and a while too.
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aerdely said:
I get it like you say randomly always when my tf300 is under load or after doing some activity. Upload, download, videos but your not the only one. Just got mine week ago go and updated to 4.2.1 right after got it so didn't know if it was happening on previous builds but im unlocked and not rooted yet but get it some times. Hope theres a fix for it make device hang once and a while too.
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Yours seems to be worse than mine. I've been running my tablet on 4.2.1 for quite a time now but this is the first time... Maybe it is the bad flash. Used to happen on ICS on my first TF300 (Exchanged it). I guess I'll wait another day or so and see if the problem persists or it's one time thing.
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I've been lucky so far and no reboots
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Yours seems to be worse than mine. I've been running my tablet on 4.2.1 for quite a time now but this is the first time... Maybe it is the bad flash. Used to happen on ICS on my first TF300 (Exchanged it). I guess I'll wait another day or so and see if the problem persists or it's one time thing.
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Yea seems to be get it quite often not sure why. Was on all stock when updated got it ota then unlocked the bootloader so not sure why was thinking of sending it back to newegg for and exchange but they're slow as all hell put in for an rma earlier this week like monday they're supposed to send me the shipping label haven't gotten it yet. Was printed already its only good for 7 days by the time it gets here will be no good. Figures. Would rather find a way to fix it maybe ill try a reflash like you mentioned.
Also didn't mention bought it as refurb which may have been the original issue prior to them reselling it. Who knows.
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aerdely said:
Yea seems to be get it quite often not sure why. Was on all stock when updated got it ota then unlocked the bootloader so not sure why was thinking of sending it back to newegg for and exchange but they're slow as all hell put in for an rma earlier this week like monday they're supposed to send me the shipping label haven't gotten it yet. Was printed already its only good for 7 days by the time it gets here will be no good. Figures. Would rather find a way to fix it maybe ill try a reflash like you mentioned.
Also didn't mention bought it as refurb which may have been the original issue prior to them reselling it. Who knows.
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This random reboot might be just Android not getting upgraded properly now I think about it... Just keep hoping that it isn't my tablet hardware that's having a problem Lol
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kyokeun1234 said:
This random reboot might be just Android not getting upgraded properly now I think about it... Just keep hoping that it isn't my tablet hardware that's having a problem Lol
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Your not the only one gonna try to reinstall the update when its a good time to go through the whole process of setting it back up. Was gonna root it any way so no point to get an exchange if can be fixed. If send it to asus theres a chance they can repair it and lose unlock bootloader and not be able to regain it happened to a couple people on here. When i try it will repost if anything changes.
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Reinstalled update last night so far so good no reboots seems less laggy and not hanging like was. Think that fixed it.
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Reinstalled update last night so far so good no reboots seems less laggy and not hanging like was. Think that fixed it.
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That's awesome news! I might flash now! Thanks man!
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That's awesome news! I might flash now! Thanks man!
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You to thanks wouldn't have thought of trying until talked to you. Pretty sure fixed it usually rebooted at least once if not twice a day. None yet today. Can actually enjoy using it now. Ota really screwed it up glad don't have to send it back to newegg. Although didn't sound like yours had as bad of issue should probably fix it. Good luck.
Trust me I've been testing it now that i got the shipping label need to know by monday if really need to send it back which would suck it's my only pc right now.
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Glad I found this, my totally stock machine is also now having random reboots....I see people re-installing the update.
Care to share how please....might help might not but willing to give it a shot
Thanks
I got a random reboot today whilst going through the painful experience of browsing with this tablet. It took about 5 minutes or more to start up again and when it did, the system UI kept crashing which made the tablet hard to use as the message kept popping up. Thereafter, when i tried to reboot using the power settings, it froze. Very frustrating. I was able to sort it by holding the power button to turn it off and then turning it back on. It seems to work fine for now but it's something that shouldn't be happening. I'm stock and unrooted
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It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice.
Hm... seems like many people are experiencing this? Maybe it is a problem with the firmware itself?
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Glad I found this, my totally stock machine is also now having random reboots....I see people re-installing the update.
Care to share how please....might help might not but willing to give it a shot
Thanks
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Mine keeps rebooting everyday now and I can't unlock the bootloader because of some "Unknown Error", I'm seriously considering giving RMA a shot then try to sell it if it doesn'tfix the issue...
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Mine keeps rebooting everyday now and I can't unlock the bootloader because of some "Unknown Error", I'm seriously considering giving RMA a shot then try to sell it if it doesn'tfix the issue...
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Before doing that, did you try factory resetting ?
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Before doing that, did you try factory resetting ?
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Yep, twice, still unstable...
No random reboot issues at all. However I installed via fastboot using the method 3.
Method I Used Here:
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No. Not at all
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Hm... seems like many people are experiencing this? Maybe it is a problem with the firmware itself?
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This was driving me crazy until i realized that every time it rebooted automatic updates were running. Not sure how this happened, maybe corruption caused by play updates running when android updated. Uninstalling the 4 perpetually updating apps and reinstalling seems to have corrected the problem (or it's a lucky coincidence).
I was also having wireless dropouts, not sure how that would be related to updates but seems to have stopped now, possibly the updating process was spinning or using some other resource. I definitely recommend disabling auto updates and seeing if that helps.
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This was driving me crazy until i realized that every time it rebooted automatic updates were running. Not sure how this happened, maybe corruption caused by play updates running when android updated. Uninstalling the 4 perpetually updating apps and reinstalling seems to have corrected the problem (or it's a lucky coincidence).
I was also having wireless dropouts, not sure how that would be related to updates but seems to have stopped now, possibly the updating process was spinning or using some other resource. I definitely recommend disabling auto updates and seeing if that helps.
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I don't think that's causing problems for me as I already disabled it. But for few days, I have not been experiencing random reboot which is good but I don't know why.
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