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This is just an idea I have been thinking about.. How about an app or a tweak so that the youtube app thinks its on wifi meanwhile its actually using the 3g... is that possible?
I have a feeling that T-Mobile's 3G can't quite keep up with most YouTube streams. Sprint and VZW are the only real 3G providers in the US unfortunately
I wouldn't be so quick to say that. the G1 handles pretty good quality streams through others apps such as the weather channel app and a few other entertainment apps that have very high quality streams compared to Youtube over 3G. With google rolling out higher quality (HD) support on their website, they should be offering the same quality on mobile devices.
lol i suggested this in the irc channel. yeah, the 3g speeds are very fast and load regular quality videos MUCH faster than they play. i would say it could definately handle the high quality videos. just have someone edit the program so u can toggle between regular links and links with "&fmt=18" at the end.
i thought i read somewhere that the over wi-fi the youtube videos are more hi-def..
guess that's obvious though
i wish they come up with something like mixtube like the iphone~~it can allow user to select the qualities of video either in 3g or wifi~~it stream the video in to internal memory~~and can be play offline ~
m.Vtap.com
phillipxenxciel said:
i wish they come up with something like mixtube like the iphone~~it can allow user to select the qualities of video either in 3g or wifi~~it stream the video in to internal memory~~and can be play offline ~
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you can actually choose the qaulity of some videos on Vtap...go to m.vtap.com...unlike the 'wikitap' application you can actually view the videos from the site
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you can actually choose the qaulity of some videos on Vtap...go to m.vtap.com...unlike the 'wikitap' application you can actually view the videos from the site
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Doesnt seems to work here in the Netherlands... (I guess its america only... )
I would be really, really greatfull if anybody could point me in the direction of any video/audio encoder software for a pc that I will convert a DVD to MP4 that will play on the HD2 with out BLOODY LIP SYNC issues??? (I don’t mind paying for it if it works)
I am beginning to wonder if it is possible to play any MP4 material on the HD2 with out the video/audio sync being out.
I used to own a HD1 and used protection’s great free app for this and the results were very good. Video was a little bit jerky but the lip sync was spot on
The audio is about a second behind when I play those files on the HD2???????, (When playing them on a PC sync is also spot on, so the video is not artificially delayed for the purposes of being in sync for the HD1)
I have tried Videora HTC Converter; trial version of DVD Catalyst 3, Handbrake, and Mp4ForHD and no matter how I set them up the lip sync is always out???
The main reason I upgraded to a HD2 was because of the large screen and fast processor for playing back video but it is worse that the HD1 due to lip sync. (also the video is still not any where near as smooth as the iphone and it has a 1GHz processor!!!!)
I am beginning to get very disappointed in the HD2 and any help would be much appreciated.
(P.S, this is using stock rom and various Cooked roms and the results as the same)
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Jason
Try this. After encoding there is an ability to synchronisize picture and sound. Most time this toll isn´t needed, because the rips are in high quality. Use the archos7 settings for the rip. And set volume to +2, otherwize it´s much to loud. Brightness has the best results with +6, the sound quality at 7% and the picture at 80%, because more quality let the file grow to more than 1 GB. For Playback use the Leo TCPMP, it´s the best player for these rips.
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Try this. After encoding there is an ability to synchronisize picture and sound. Most time this toll isn´t needed, because the rips are in high quality. Use the archos7 settings for the rip. And set volume to +2, otherwize it´s much to loud. Brightness has the best results with +6, the sound quality at 7% and the picture at 80%, because more quality let the file grow to more than 1 GB. For Playback use the Leo TCPMP, it´s the best player for these rips.
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Cheers for reply Neo XL, will give it a go
I had the same problem, but got good results from: mp4forHD. There is an update/add-on for the HD2 which gives good picture and sound. Easy to use and all the settings are there for you.
Plays back perfectly in the standard HD2 video player.
Search this forum for the link....
this is the answer to your request
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=649798
enjoy!
I use Handbrake 0.9.4,
Settings : MP4 , i dont use H.264,
Use FFmpeg, bitrate : 1500Kbps for anime, 2000Kbps for movie/songs.
Plays flawlessly on HD2.
converted 1080p, 720p, DVD, Youtube HD Vids, all to mp4 and plays well on HD2. no problem.
Thanks for all the answers, I have tried them all and I find that the lip sync is still out?
On mp4forHD, I used the HD2 profile and the sync was still way out.
I found that Handbrake 0.9.4, was the best using MP4, instead of H.264 but it is still not perfect.
I am playing the material using both WMP and HTC player. What I am doing wrong?
The HD2 is a bit if a disappointment to me in the video play back department considering its spec it promised so much.
I already used protections Video encoding GUI for my HD1 and don’t recall any lip sync issues on that device.
hi all,
3/4 of synchronization problems come from encoding when it is done with a variable rate codec VBR, for greater compatibility, it is recommended to use a fixed rate compression call CBR when encoding audio
Ok, but what I don’t understand is why files that are perfectly in sync when played on a pc and on the HD1 are out of sync when played on the HD2???
It’s as if the only way to get them in sync is to artificially delay the video when encoding...
I could sort of understand it more if it was the other way round as video generally takes longer to process than audio, but why should the audio be around 0.5 to 1 second delayed??? Don’t make sense to me.
Another thing I have noticed is that videos plays a lot smother when using WMP than using the HTC player, which is a shame as the HTC player is nicer to use in my opinion. The disappointing thing is I really didn’t expect any juddering of video on the HD2 after using the HD1 considering that it has a 1ghz processor which is FOUR times fast than the HD1, and I certainly wasn’t expecting this annoying lip sync issue.
People I know with iphones just laugh when I show them the never 100% smooth and, at best, slightly out of sync video performance on the HD2. The only thing they are jealous of is the bigger screen, which rumours say the next iphone will address.
Oh well, I suppose you have to put it down to the HD2’s main handicap, Windows Mobile. Hope version WM7 is better (if we can even use it on our HD2’s) sorry rambling onto a completely new subject now.
Never really had any massive problems with Handbrake. Ripped Top Gun and it was perfectly in sync for the entire movie.
If anyone here thinks the movies aren't desynced, look again. You might have just missed it the first time because the effect is subtle.
CBR, ABR, VBR, 3 different AAC codecs, 2 different MP3 codecs, even tried encoding the video differently. Every single time the sync was perfect on every device, computer, etc EXCEPT THE HD2.
There MUST be a way to fix this-- what's happening is that the audio is delayed slightly. To account for this, I'm currently purposefully encoding the audio at about 1/5 of a second in so that it accounts for the ~200-250ms desync (which is present in every video...including the stock ROM's Transformers movies!). This works but the file can't be played on any other system or computer of course because the file will be off by that 1/5 or 1/4 second.
Tried stock and 4 other ROMs. All exactly the same. I tried not to keep a single setting in common--fresh hard reset, etc. It's always there, and people have been complaining about it. Some people just don't notice 1/5 or 1/4 second delays. XD Or you think it's normal for the mouths to move a bit before the talking can be heard.
Surely a setting? Maybe it's something BSB tweaks can address? Somebody must know _something_, and the whole community would like to know what it is and how to fix our $450-700 de-synced movie players (HD2).
i use imTOO ultimate video converter. converted Spiderman, great quality and great sound. 10/10. file size was about 1.2gb. around the same size of transformers that it came with. but it looks the same
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If anyone here thinks the movies aren't desynced, look again. You might have just missed it the first time because the effect is subtle.
CBR, ABR, VBR, 3 different AAC codecs, 2 different MP3 codecs, even tried encoding the video differently. Every single time the sync was perfect on every device, computer, etc EXCEPT THE HD2.
There MUST be a way to fix this-- what's happening is that the audio is delayed slightly. To account for this, I'm currently purposefully encoding the audio at about 1/5 of a second in so that it accounts for the ~200-250ms desync (which is present in every video...including the stock ROM's Transformers movies!). This works but the file can't be played on any other system or computer of course because the file will be off by that 1/5 or 1/4 second.
Tried stock and 4 other ROMs. All exactly the same. I tried not to keep a single setting in common--fresh hard reset, etc. It's always there, and people have been complaining about it. Some people just don't notice 1/5 or 1/4 second delays. XD Or you think it's normal for the mouths to move a bit before the talking can be heard.
Surely a setting? Maybe it's something BSB tweaks can address? Somebody must know _something_, and the whole community would like to know what it is and how to fix our $450-700 de-synced movie players (HD2).
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What programs can you use that will create an audio delay?
Hi,
I have found audio sync (amongst other) issues with all the free products noted on XDA that i've tried. Another issue I also noticed was the complicated configuration recommendations from people. Whilst helpful, it was fruitless as all the output was still desynced (and some products couldn't even output 800x480). I downloaded a demo of SPB Mobile DVD and with a couple of clicks I can convert stored video files and DVD's with perfect sync to quality 800x480 xvid or WMV ro watch on either media player or the HTC player. I also found that the DivX Player provides options for audio sync so if you want to use one of the free products which doesn't sync you can align the audio when you watch it on your HD2.
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Hi,
I have found audio sync (amongst other) issues with all the free products noted on XDA that i've tried. Another issue I also noticed was the complicated configuration recommendations from people. Whilst helpful, it was fruitless as all the output was still desynced (and some products couldn't even output 800x480). I downloaded a demo of SPB Mobile DVD and with a couple of clicks I can convert stored video files and DVD's with perfect sync to quality 800x480 xvid or WMV ro watch on either media player or the HTC player. I also found that the DivX Player provides options for audio sync so if you want to use one of the free products which doesn't sync you can align the audio when you watch it on your HD2.
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Sorry, but it's not a software issue at all. The only way "SPB Mobile DVD" or any other conversion program can produce files which play without the audio delay is if these programs ruin the video by delaying in the opposite direction. Yes, there are programs that you can use to introduce a negative delay--ffdshow will do it if you can get directshow to use it. Avisynth has a delayaudio(float) function which accepts negative values.
But none of these workarounds solves the problem of why all audio is delayed on the HD2. Not just videos--Games, etc all have the problem. Coreplayer is a software decoder you can use to set a manual delay decoder-side... but this means you can't use the powersaving video acceleration of the device, and the files don't play back properly (skipped frames, reduced colors, no HE-AAC support, aliasing).
I have tried just about every bit software and settings on this forum and I am unable to get any decent quality in sync results.
Thought I would try SPB Mobile DVD, don’t what I am doing wrong, but I can’t seem to get it to convert from a DVD. It gets al the way to the last screen then just “freezes” and doesn’t start converting. Have tried with a number of DVD’s.
It starts converting ok when I pick a single file to convert, (it for some reason will only let you select one file and not multiple DVD files from this option??) but I don’t want to do that, I want to convert a DVD.
Any Ideas?????
That confirms it. This is not a software issue. The HD2 has an audio/video bug that HTC needs to fix: a 250ms audio delay.
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That confirms it. This is not a software issue. The HD2 has an audio/video bug that HTC needs to fix: a 250ms audio delay.
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Sorry curiousGeorge what confirms it?
I too believe that the HD2 is at fault here as everything I encode via about 15 different pieces of software I have tried play back with perfect sync on the PC and out of sync on the HD2
THIS REALLY IS DRIVING ME NUTS!!!!!!
The only saving hope I have of the HD2 video play back capabilities is a clip I downloaded from post 14 of this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=628092&page=2
It plays back perfectly in sync and perfectly smooth and the quality is amazing.
I would just LOVE to know how this was encoded and if it is possible to get anything near this from a DVD.
(I tried the program and settings mentioned on the thread and all I got was a load of MPEG4 files that looked rubbish and were out of sync)
With regard to SPB Mobile DVD, I finally got this to work on my pc but the resulting file does not play back with any sound???!!! So I don’t know if it has sync issues or not. It is also CRAP video quality and juggers all over the place.
I am really getting pi**ed off with this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DVD Encode
I've found there is no need to encode Dvds specifically for the hd2. I've downloaded films from the net and copied them straight to the sd card. Played them through coreplayer and they play perfectly. Divx play with great quality.
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Sorry curiousGeorge what confirms it?
I too believe that the HD2 is at fault here as everything I encode via about 15 different pieces of software I have tried play back with perfect sync on the PC and out of sync on the HD2
THIS REALLY IS DRIVING ME NUTS!!!!!!
The only saving hope I have of the HD2 video play back capabilities is a clip I downloaded from post 14 of this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=628092&page=2
It plays back perfectly in sync and perfectly smooth and the quality is amazing.
I would just LOVE to know how this was encoded and if it is possible to get anything near this from a DVD.
(I tried the program and settings mentioned on the thread and all I got was a load of MPEG4 files that looked rubbish and were out of sync)
With regard to SPB Mobile DVD, I finally got this to work on my pc but the resulting file does not play back with any sound???!!! So I don’t know if it has sync issues or not. It is also CRAP video quality and juggers all over the place.
I am really getting pi**ed off with this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Because that video was encoded with a audio delayed added. It's a system flaw of the HD2 to play normal in synced video with a slight audio delay. Not really that audible to those who ain't looking for it, but it's there. And unless HTC does something to solve it, posting it in every thread out there isn't gonna change anything but sound irritating.
Do you know how to use the DVD encoding portion of winmenc? That could account for your wrong outputs. Or are the dvds CSS protected? Only non-protected dvds can be decoded direct. If not, you should use an app like DVDShrink to extract and decode those dvds to your pc, then use those source files in winmenc. Those will encode fine.
I updated to FRF72 today and noticed that typing in the BBC iPlayer url now links to an optimized mobile site using Flash. I have been unable to get any pages to load though. Can anyone else try it?
I'd be interested to know if this is only for the latest update. I'd also like to know what the quality is like once it's live!
Just thought you guys might like to know
Re: BBC iPlayer weblink now live for Android...FRF72 only??
Pretty sure this was also in frf50 as well. Noticed it the other day. As you found videos don't seem too play though either over 3g or wifi which is a shame.
Cant get the video on beta.bbc.co.uk/beta to work either. Haven't tried a PC yet.
Same here... page loads but no cigar!
FRF72
It doesn't allow you to even TRY and load up the stream without WIFI, whereas mobile streams on other devices allow streaming on either. I have my suspicions that these streams are going to be much better quality than we have seen with any apps...
Have you tried switching to desktop mode instead of android?
That would be pointless as it just plays unoptimised, stuttery full flash streams. The promised optimised streams for Android devices should be much higher quality - hopefully as good as on iPhone.
Won't let me because it knows I am not in the UK. I even tried spoofing my location, but no cigar.
Just to confirm - it is working now. Stream is VERY good quality, much better than the jerky video when viewing full site. Its also nice and loud.
Best if you leave your browser settings at default NORMAL font size and MEDIUM zoom, otherwise the stream seems to glitch and become unwatchable if you exit the browser.
Very happy with the quality, much better than other devices with mobile streams, probably on a par with iPhone (although higher resolution of Nexus is slightly less forgiving).
Makes Myplayer/Beebplayer streams look like a load of crap....they'll still be handy for conserving data over 3G though
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Just to confirm - it is working now. Stream is VERY good quality, much better than the jerky video when viewing full site. Its also nice and loud.
Best if you leave your browser settings at default NORMAL font size and MEDIUM zoom, otherwise the stream seems to glitch and become unwatchable if you exit the browser.
Very happy with the quality, much better than other devices with mobile streams, probably on a par with iPhone (although higher resolution of Nexus is slightly less forgiving).
Makes Myplayer/Beebplayer streams look like a load of crap....they'll still be handy for conserving data over 3G though
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Shame you can't stream live tele from the mobile site (Unless I'm being a spoon and missing a link somewhere!)
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Shame you can't stream live tele from the mobile site (Unless I'm being a spoon and missing a link somewhere!)
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tvcatchup.com
stream live tv from all freeview channels
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tvcatchup.com
stream live tv from all freeview channels
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That'd be m.tvcatchup.com
Thought I'd make a thread for things that do work well on the Sensation and may make people stick to this phone until the other issues are resolved.
DLNA function: I spent a few hours putting my Samsung TV on my network and I can send video, pics and music direct from my phone to my TV via Wifi from anywhere in the house and its very very good. I have a film in AVI and it steamed perfectly.
Forward SMS to email: I think this is in 2.3.3 anyway but useful when phone it unusable like at some work places.
Built in streaming: I can scan music, videos and pics from a file server and play them on the phone directly with no additional software.
Lexar 32 gig MicroSD Class 10: Definitly works fine in this phone. Check Amazon
Built in slideshow as wallpaper: I like having different background images randomly and this is good for that. Point it at a folder full of images (I have a folder full of downloaded landscapes, sea, etc., type images specifcally for this. It replaces the need for things like Wallpaper Rotator. Only snag is that it changes the images every 30 seconds or so so it maybe CPU intensive (doesn't seem to be though). I'd rather it was hourly but can't see anywhere to change it.
Please add others as you find them.
Lockscreen icons and lockscreen animations: I like having weather animations or my photos spinning around under the lock screen, looks cool. Also being able to change the lock screen icons does make that feature quite handy
Built in streaming: I can scan music, videos and pics from a file server and play them on the phone directly with no additional software.
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How do you do this?
Lexar 32 gig MicroSD Class 10: Definitly works fine in this phone.
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Yep, works fine here too.
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DLNA function: I spent a few hours putting my Samsung TV on my network and I can send video, pics and music direct from my phone to my TV via Wifi from anywhere in the house and its very very good. I have a film in AVI and it steamed perfectly.
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can you please try this with 1080p mkv files?
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can you please try this with 1080p mkv files?
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I thought that the Sensation doesn't natively support mkv files?
aNYthing24 said:
I thought that the Sensation doesn't natively support mkv files?
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troubling.....
Reg Media Streaming to phone
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How do you do this?
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Make sure you have Wi-Fi turned on
(Also ensure Media Centre on your PC is set to share music, videos etc)
Go to Gallery
At the top where it says ALBUMS, click and select Media Servers
Select your PC
Mine says Media PC: Media
then it will find the catagories of the files it can find, you just chose what you wish to play
It really is that simple!!
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I thought that the Sensation doesn't natively support mkv files?
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If your streaming server is any good it can transcode .mkv on the fly to something the phone can play.
I'll go try it with an MKV file right now...bear with me, wife has the remote
I am using Windows 7 as the media server, btw
No good with MKV. None of the players on my phone will play it natively even though my Samsung TV plays them fine from a hardrive or memory stick. On my phone I have Divxplayer (or demoplayer) and moboplayer and they wont play it on the phone itself, let along anywhere else. Need a player that supports these. I think the Desire used to play MKV with Divxplayer but I don't think it likes the Sensation resolution.
Anyone any ideas?
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No good with MKV. None of the players on my phone will play it natively even though my Samsung TV plays them fine from a hardrive or memory stick. On my phone I have Divxplayer (or demoplayer) and moboplayer and they wont play it on the phone itself, let along anywhere else. Need a player that supports these. I think the Desire used to play MKV with Divxplayer but I don't think it likes the Sensation resolution.
Anyone any ideas?
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have you tried diceplayer?
I'll give it a try now.
Diceplayer plays MKV on the phone ok but cant find a way to push that to the TV
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Go to Gallery
At the top where it says ALBUMS, click and select Media Servers
Select your PC
Mine says Media PC: Media
then it will find the catagories of the files it can find, you just chose what you wish to play
It really is that simple!!
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Thanks! That is simple! Not tried it yet, but presumably it will work with the built-in Windows Media Player server of Windows 7, and also TVersity, just like my PS3 does and can see both.
Could you please advise as to whether HDMI mirroring works, particularly in landscape mode?
Also do you have a Wiimote? The BT stack should support it but I see people asking this question feverishly as though they're concerned... I think it should work, but now everyone's casting doubts in my mind.
PS. You're a lucky bastard lol... I'm dying to get a Sensation!!
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Could you please advise as to whether HDMI mirroring works, particularly in landscape mode?
Also do you have a Wiimote? The BT stack should support it but I see people asking this question feverishly as though they're concerned... I think it should work, but now everyone's casting doubts in my mind.
PS. You're a lucky bastard lol... I'm dying to get a Sensation!!
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wii mote will not work because htc sense messes it up it does it for all sense devices
Rock player supports mkv also try using skifta to stream it via dlna
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
Rockplayer may support MKV but it doesn't like the resolution or something because it drops out as soon as it starts to play. Actually Rockplayer plays MKV fine on my wife's Desire so it must be a resolution issue because as the Sensation is qHD
Hi!
I searched everywhere, but couldn't find answer to my problem. Maybe you can help me.
I have N8000 with JB 4.1.2 (N8000XXCMA2) with Allshare Play app 1.0 (201302250623). I love Allshare, because I can play my HD mkv files with subtitles without any problems. That is, I could play. Now every time I try to open a file from my PCs (i have two laptops, and it's the same) with "mobile optimization" unchecked I got "sorry this video cannot be played" message. What's bizarre, I can play files with "mobile optimization" on, but the quality is really crappy, subs do not work, and I can't forward or reverse it (it plays like live stream). What's more bizarre, I can play files normally with BubbleUPnP, using default player (but it's choppy, and doesn't show all files, so it's not as reliable as Allshare Play).
I really don't know why it stopped working. I believe it might have something to do with frequent updates of the app, or maybe with JB update. Don't know. Any ideas? Thanks in advance.
I have found that if your video has a data rate of higher than 3800 kbps it will most likely not stream.
I think it all depends on the speed of your router so yours may not be the same as mine.
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kkretch said:
I have found that if your video has a data rate of higher than 3800 kbps it will most likely not stream.
I think it all depends on the speed of your router so yours may not be the same as mine.
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Like I said before, it had been working since day one, and then stopped, so the bandwidth or date rate is not the issue here.