This is just an idea I have been thinking about.. How about an app or a tweak so that the youtube app thinks its on wifi meanwhile its actually using the 3g... is that possible?
I have a feeling that T-Mobile's 3G can't quite keep up with most YouTube streams. Sprint and VZW are the only real 3G providers in the US unfortunately
I wouldn't be so quick to say that. the G1 handles pretty good quality streams through others apps such as the weather channel app and a few other entertainment apps that have very high quality streams compared to Youtube over 3G. With google rolling out higher quality (HD) support on their website, they should be offering the same quality on mobile devices.
lol i suggested this in the irc channel. yeah, the 3g speeds are very fast and load regular quality videos MUCH faster than they play. i would say it could definately handle the high quality videos. just have someone edit the program so u can toggle between regular links and links with "&fmt=18" at the end.
i thought i read somewhere that the over wi-fi the youtube videos are more hi-def..
guess that's obvious though
i wish they come up with something like mixtube like the iphone~~it can allow user to select the qualities of video either in 3g or wifi~~it stream the video in to internal memory~~and can be play offline ~
m.Vtap.com
phillipxenxciel said:
i wish they come up with something like mixtube like the iphone~~it can allow user to select the qualities of video either in 3g or wifi~~it stream the video in to internal memory~~and can be play offline ~
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you can actually choose the qaulity of some videos on Vtap...go to m.vtap.com...unlike the 'wikitap' application you can actually view the videos from the site
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you can actually choose the qaulity of some videos on Vtap...go to m.vtap.com...unlike the 'wikitap' application you can actually view the videos from the site
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Doesnt seems to work here in the Netherlands... (I guess its america only... )
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A new startup company has come up with a great way to search and play online videos.
Download PPC version onto my Tytn and it works a treat!!
Try it from... http://www.vtap.com/
Cool, thanks.
Okay. This is cool.
- Has one of them "as you type" searchbars for video and wikipedia. Type in "kitten" and it shows in nanoseconds all the relative stuff about kittens.
- Really fast, as from software point and in downloading videos.
- Seems to have gazillion video sites.
- Plays videos really smooth. Has different quality settings and an audio only mode. (Tested with Wizard)
- Background and playlist mode for video downloading. Good if you're using cellular networks.
It does have few bugs and it doesn't really have a way to list videos like "top 10 from youtube", instead it shows a list of some news, sports and political stuff on the search page by default.
They also seem to be planning a java version for the functionally challenged phones
I recorded a quick overview of the software
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWm5YkNsB6A
Btw, sorry for the quality. I didnt know that the youtube-online recorder does that.
aside from just playing "unrestricted" video, this is pretty brilliant
Brilliant piece of software.
Just one thing I noted immediately after its installation.
1) I tried to install this on the storage card. But it actually installed in the programs folder of the main memory.
2) After I installed this software I keep getting the sound I have associated with the event "Connection Established" ever few seconds though actual connection does not take place. As a fix I have disabled any sound for the event "Connection Established". Anyone else noticed this. My device is the HTC Touch.
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Demens: It does have few bugs and it doesn't really have a way to list videos like "top 10 from youtube", instead it shows a list of some news, sports and political stuff on the search page by default.
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I agree, would really like to filter the results by site (i.e YouTube only).
Since it downloads the videos in order to play them - I nice feature would be to beable to save the videos for later repeat views.
Pretty good app so far.
One way to filter clips in vTap
search youtube and select youtube group and then do search...pretty cool... they are doing search with in the group....
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I tried to install this on the storage card. But it actually installed in the programs folder of the main memory.
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I had the same problem... Is there any workaround to get it installed to storage card instead?
Wow, very nice, love how it shows all videos, organizes some into videos, shows all video sites, etc and is VERY fast in both displaying videos and information as well as buffering and showing the actual video.
Storage Card problem.
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I had the same problem... Is there any workaround to get it installed to storage card instead?
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I have contacted the support for vTap, and they have indicated that a fix should be available shortly.
Great news aalvino!, thanks
Works Great on my Touch!
Btw... there's a new version now that supports installation to storage card
great app to make youtube and other video sites work on a Prophet. But, I might just be dumb, I can´t find a seekbar or a similar tool that would allow me to jump to a specific part of the video I´m watching.
Is there something of the sort in vTap?
is there a way to fast forward or rewind the video in vtap? the arrows arent highlighted...
Very cool app but not at all new. I had a version of this installed almost a year ago..never did understand why people were having so much trouble with youtube videos when vtap played them just fine from the beginning. Good application
This is nothing new at all.
Vtap has been around for quite some time, i don't know why you have a new thread started for it and calling it a startup complany? I have had this installed since last year!
The post actually started last year...
So ive noticed that there is a new (maybe old) feature on YouTube when i access from my PC for watching vids in high(er) quality...since it is YouTube that is offering this option does anyone know if we will be able to watch Vids in higher quality from our G1's??? they are still very choppy (opinion)
-MADE SOME "PROGRESS" OR DISCOVERY IN POST 10 BELOW
not sure if you are aware of this, but youtube plays at a higher resolution if you are connected via wifi vs 3g/edge.
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not sure if you are aware of this, but youtube plays at a higher resolution if you are connected via wifi vs 3g/edge.
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ya ive tried and noticed a slight difference but wifi connection is not always available to me...
if you've only noticed a slight difference, then the video you are watching was low quality before it even made it to youtube
The higher quality option within the standard Youtube site utilizes h.264 with AAC.
As far as I know the G1 uses only the old standard .FLV through its built-in player when using WIFI.
When running on EDGE or 3g the G1 Youtube player player connects to the mobile .3gp stream.
The iPhone on the other hand uses the h.264 stream when wifi is connected, or the .3gp stream when in EDGE or 3G coverage (although downloading of the higher quality stream is available through the device with MXtube.
I own the two devices and will be doing a few comparison videos in a week or so. It is interesting that no reviewer has commented on the fact (or what I believe to be a fact) that the Youtube viewer on the iPhone is a lot nicer to use and watch on the whole, despite Google owning Youtube. Really they should have offered the best mobile Youtube experience on the G1.
One GOOD point about the use of .FLV streams is that they load a LOT faster. The same stream in h.264 on my iPhone can take many seconds to buffer - even with my 10mbps broadband connection - where the same clip on the G1 buffers almost instantaneously. I suspect that Youtube throttles their h.264 streams (for reasons best known to themselves) since I have no problem streaming the BBC's lovely h.264 iPlayer streams.
I suspect it is HTC who actually made the Youtube app, and that it will be improved, or even replaced with the Cupcake release.
Another problem which is slightly off topic and will NOT be improved with updates is that the G1's loudspeaker is vastly inferior to the iPhone 3G's (though much better than the pathetic iPhone 2G speaker).
Sound quality for me is very important when I'm watching videos on my device, and as I've swapped and changed between my G1 and iPhone over the past couple of weeks I've found the speaker quality of my G1 to be a source of great irritation being as it is just so tinny. and annoyingly positioned. Despite being only monaural the iPhone 3G's speaker is one of the best out there.
Me and my friend did a comparison, he has iphone and i have g1 obviously. Both of us are in 3g are and his quality blows g1 away. I agree youtube videos looks pretty horrible on g1 with or without 3g. Speaker is definately behind in the iphone wars also. I have noticed that i pick the videos up much faster than iphone but i would wait for quality. Alot of youtube videos are low quality video's however.
maybe someone can impliment a "force &fmt=18 string" at the end of every youtube video link that gets played to force the quality to be good. but of course, you would have to wait for it to load too, so they should make it an option when you press the "menu" button, maybe they could do something in the next custom firmware for root users.
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maybe someone can impliment a "force &fmt=18 string" at the end of every youtube video link that gets played to force the quality to be good. but of course, you would have to wait for it to load too, so they should make it an option when you press the "menu" button, maybe they could do something in the next custom firmware for root users.
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thts actually a great idea as this code provides excellent resolution on PC's, and i wouldnt mind waiting as stated above i would rather have higher quality...
Has anyone compared the video quality when launching videos from the youtube.com website instead of searching for them with the youtube app? I believe the app normally searches m.youtube.com which has videos that are reencoded with a lower quality.
WOOOOO
so keeping in mind the "&fmt=18" code at the end of the actual vid URL i tried this...
1) go to the actual website www.youtube.com (not app)
2) search/click on any vid, it will ask you if you want to use the "youtube app" or "browser", Click browser
3)once the page opens you will see the flashplayer error, hit the menu button and "go to url" add the code "&fmt=18" to the end of the url then copy
4)go to www.keepvid.com and paste in the blue box then click download
5)scroll down and you will see 2 options to download make sure u click the mp4 high quality link...(not the flv link)
6)WAHHLAAAHH enjoy looks 5times better even though takes 5 times longer lol hope this is worth it for some of you
nice find. you can also use the fmt=22 addition to get HD videos from youtube.
on a side note, i was trying to find an easier way to do this and found that if you look it up in the application, you can just use Menu/share to send it to yourself. before you send it, you can add the URL extension of choice and when you get the email and click on it, it will ask youtube or browser. select youtube and it will play, but it seems to drop the added extension. if we could find a way to make it keep it, it would effectivly remove the need to use www.keepvid.com
and the 720p vidoes (if available) do play very well and look AWSOME on the phone!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pXfHLUlZf4&fmt=22 (the one i d/l to my phone to test a HD video)
I found a way to not have to d/l the video. just copy the link from www.keepvid.com and put it into the Meridian Video Player from the marketplace. It will stream it no problem, including the HD ones... (does not work with the youtube link and the added extension, but at least you dont have to d/l videos anymore)
If there would be a way to use longclick to have an option to open it in Meridian, you could do this probably from the youtube page even. Or if a similar option would be available from the mail app, then you just send the link and click!
Just to comment, but none of the youtube videos are anywhere close to 720p in resolution. They are indeed pretty good for streaming videos but those are probably about 800x480 or something along the lines of that.
I updated to FRF72 today and noticed that typing in the BBC iPlayer url now links to an optimized mobile site using Flash. I have been unable to get any pages to load though. Can anyone else try it?
I'd be interested to know if this is only for the latest update. I'd also like to know what the quality is like once it's live!
Just thought you guys might like to know
Re: BBC iPlayer weblink now live for Android...FRF72 only??
Pretty sure this was also in frf50 as well. Noticed it the other day. As you found videos don't seem too play though either over 3g or wifi which is a shame.
Cant get the video on beta.bbc.co.uk/beta to work either. Haven't tried a PC yet.
Same here... page loads but no cigar!
FRF72
It doesn't allow you to even TRY and load up the stream without WIFI, whereas mobile streams on other devices allow streaming on either. I have my suspicions that these streams are going to be much better quality than we have seen with any apps...
Have you tried switching to desktop mode instead of android?
That would be pointless as it just plays unoptimised, stuttery full flash streams. The promised optimised streams for Android devices should be much higher quality - hopefully as good as on iPhone.
Won't let me because it knows I am not in the UK. I even tried spoofing my location, but no cigar.
Just to confirm - it is working now. Stream is VERY good quality, much better than the jerky video when viewing full site. Its also nice and loud.
Best if you leave your browser settings at default NORMAL font size and MEDIUM zoom, otherwise the stream seems to glitch and become unwatchable if you exit the browser.
Very happy with the quality, much better than other devices with mobile streams, probably on a par with iPhone (although higher resolution of Nexus is slightly less forgiving).
Makes Myplayer/Beebplayer streams look like a load of crap....they'll still be handy for conserving data over 3G though
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Just to confirm - it is working now. Stream is VERY good quality, much better than the jerky video when viewing full site. Its also nice and loud.
Best if you leave your browser settings at default NORMAL font size and MEDIUM zoom, otherwise the stream seems to glitch and become unwatchable if you exit the browser.
Very happy with the quality, much better than other devices with mobile streams, probably on a par with iPhone (although higher resolution of Nexus is slightly less forgiving).
Makes Myplayer/Beebplayer streams look like a load of crap....they'll still be handy for conserving data over 3G though
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Shame you can't stream live tele from the mobile site (Unless I'm being a spoon and missing a link somewhere!)
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Shame you can't stream live tele from the mobile site (Unless I'm being a spoon and missing a link somewhere!)
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tvcatchup.com
stream live tv from all freeview channels
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tvcatchup.com
stream live tv from all freeview channels
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That'd be m.tvcatchup.com
One thing that I seem to be missing in the marketplace is apps that does live-streaming of video, the latest to be added to the list is the MLB app that has audio-streaming, but no video streaming of live games, so is it WP that doesn't support this, or is it the developers that doesn't want to?
Live streaming from or to the device? Otherwise there doesn't seem to be an issue with live streaming to the device. Considering a number of RDC's use similar features. No clue about streaming from the device though.
Stream to the device, take my MLB example: At Bat 12 for Android and IOS can show live gamestreams , but WP7 can not. (And the WP one is even more expensive, but that's another case). An then there is sites such as Ustream, justin.tv etc that doesn't seem to be available on the platform.
If I remember there was a 3rd part Ustream app, but watching livestreams didn't work.
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Stream to the device, take my MLB example: At Bat 12 for Android and IOS can show live gamestreams , but WP7 can not.
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What is the "live gamestreams"? If you mean "live sport game events": WP7 can perfectly stream live video; but seems like a content providers don't care much about WP7 support.
Yeah, livestreaming of games, thanks I guess we just have to put some preassure on the developers then.
I've been looking for an app that does this for me as well, mainly for gaming content. There are quite a few out there that seem to be able to stream live video content, like the RedBullTV app and I believe there's a Youtube Live app as well, so with my limited developing-knowledge, I don't see why it wouldn't be possible.
FlashVideo For WP7 has recently added support for several "Live Video" sites, mostly sports at the moment though. Not sure if this specific update has hit marketplace yet, but the changelog are up on his site. Can't link a source due to low post-count, but it can be found if you look up the app in the marketplace.
I've been briefly corresponding with the developer as well, asking if he would add support for justin/twitch.tv and own3d.tv, and I believe he would seriously look into it, but it seemed to something that would be added in the future because the sites "have many protections", in his own words.
Guys, as I've said before: technically it's very possible, not a big problem, live streaming are perfectly supported by WP7 (via MS Smooth Streaming technology etc.). The big problem is CONTENT. Nobody will develop app to play stolen content - for ethical reason or because app will be banned from the mp shortly. So direct your questions to your sports channel providers...
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Guys, as I've said before: technically it's very possible, not a big problem, live streaming are perfectly supported by WP7 (via MS Smooth Streaming technology etc.). The big problem is CONTENT. Nobody will develop app to play stolen content - for ethical reason or because app will be banned from the mp shortly. So direct your questions to your sports channel providers...
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What of sites like Justin.tv who seem to encourage people to make use of their tech for own applications?
We believe that the future of video is live. Our API enables you to use Justin.tv's infrastructure, for free, to easily power live video in your own applications.
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I can't link to the source directly but it can be found if you go to justin.tv and click on API at the very bottom.
justin.tv/p/api
Again, my knowledge of development in general is very limited, so I have no real idea what the significance of this is... Would be grateful if someone could enlighten me and if it could mean the possibility of a third-party app?
Thanks.
This topic is about professional sport events live video streaming. I don't understand why did you mention justin.tv...
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This topic is about professional sport events live video streaming. I don't understand why did you mention justin.tv...
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From what I gathered, OP was asking about live-streaming apps for WP7 in general and he also brought up both Ustream and Justin.tv in another post so I figured it was relevant to the discussion.
Is there any significant difference between "professional sport event live video streaming" and services like Ustream and Justin.tv? The latter have provided streams for sport and competitive events in the past as well, and continues to do so.
Nope, you are wrong. He wants to have "livestreaming of games". I don't watch games but I'm pretty sure there are no free live broadcasting of the Red Sox or Bruins games on Ustream and Justin.tv, for example.
P.S. 2 OP: you should mark your question as answered 'cause WP can handle live streams. Your second question "why I can't find app/service for that" is a different question
Fair enough! I guess this is what confused me...
An then there is sites such as Ustream, justin.tv etc that doesn't seem to be available on the platform.
If I remember there was a 3rd part Ustream app, but watching livestreams didn't work.
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Regardless, I guess it's a discussion for another thread. Thanks for your clarification regarding live streaming and WP7, it's something I've been wondering about as well!
And again, to OP, the developer for FlashVideo for WP7 has stated that he will add support for several "live sports streaming sites", I don't know if there is anything of interest to be found there but still worth a mention I feel.
By the way, as for temporary solution you may use Skype and broadcast live event yourself from the home PC equipped with video capturing board and connected to your cable box
Hey all
I'm trying to find out how I can change the video play back quality on certain apps.
The play back stream quality on chrome sucks balls. I don't know why it isnt forcing my LTE to download them faster.
I know this because I have the data transfer rate in my status bar. When I use the YouTube app, it downloads a lot faster and has better quality. But when I use chrome to watch a video, its total bull.
Any help? Thanks
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Hey all
I'm trying to find out how I can change the video play back quality on certain apps.
The play back stream quality on chrome sucks balls. I don't know why it isnt forcing my LTE to download them faster.
I know this because I have the data transfer rate in my status bar. When I use the YouTube app, it downloads a lot faster and has better quality. But when I use chrome to watch a video, its total bull.
Any help? Thanks
Sent from my Nexus 5 using XDA Free mobile app
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when youre using chrome to play back a video, it can only go as fast as the site that posted it allows. many sites only allow very slow speeds(especially if its one of those sites that posts new movies for free type of bootlegs). and to change video quality per app, that app needs to have video quality settings, or you can not change it.