Samsung and HTC attempt to ban iPhone 5 - AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL

Just came upon this. I doubt sales will actually be stopped even if Apple loses any potential cases, but interesting nonetheless.
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Apple-Samsung-HTC-Patent-Lawsuit,17595.html

I think it's what the deserve
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I hate really apple
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Ha ha ha I hope they take a bite out of apple
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Even though it sounds evil I would love to see the Iphone 5 get banned in the US. Apple needs to be put in its place so that technology can evolve freely.
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I think they both need to suck it up and get over it. If they both have so many billions to waste, why not give it to charities instead of each other? Bottom line- the i5 sucks something fierce but won't go away... we can only put them in their places with our rooted, over clocked, custom Android Phones
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Don't think it will help anyone if the successfully ban the Iphone 5. It will just give every company the impression than they can now go to court file some paperwork and screw with their bottomline even if only temporary.

svavrek said:
I think they both need to suck it up and get over it. If they both have so many billions to waste, why not give it to charities instead of each other?
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I agree that the patent trolling and lawsuit wars helps no one in the end. And I'm sure the iPhone 5 won't get banned. But doing nothing seems like a bad strategy for HTC and Samsung. Seems to make sense to fight back. Otherwise it like just letting someone kick the crap out of you, and doing nothing.
If there was some way to get all parties to just stop with the lawsuits, and just concentrate on making awesome and competitive products, that would be wonderful. But I don't think that's going to happen anytime soon.

As much as I hate apple and what they're doing, these patent wars are getting obnoxious. Can't we just get along? In the end, it's us that feel the backlash!

elsupermang said:
Don't think it will help anyone if the successfully ban the Iphone 5. It will just give every company the impression than they can now go to court file some paperwork and screw with their bottomline even if only temporary.
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This is what apple has done to HTC multiple times, I believe this phone was banned in the us because of apple
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superchilpil said:
This is what apple has done to HTC multiple times, I believe this phone was banned in the us because of apple
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It was banned for quite a while. I got really lucky that the best buy I went to had one. Although it was kinda fun cause I could rub it in my friends faces cause they couldn't get it yet. Made me feel special
Pretty sure apple also got the galaxy nexus taking off of the google website for a couple days as well.
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It was banned for quite a while. I got really lucky that the best buy I went to had one.
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The One X wasn't so much "banned" as "delayed" by US Customs (at the request of Apple) until it was verified that the phone conformed to the patent ruling on the feature to launch an app when an URL, phone number, etc. was tapped in an email or text.
Why it took a month for Customs to verify this, I have no idea.

That's the word I couldn't think of. Delayed. Sorry
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i vaguely recall being able to click on a link/phone number/etc and having it do what i want on my OLD windows mobile phone that was released pre iphone. But hey, I guess if i could sue anyone if i bought them all ipads too.

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Apple Seeks To Ban Sales Of Samsung Galaxy S III In U.S. For Violating Siri Patents

This puts a smile on my face. I so hope this happens.
http://www.redmondpie.com/apple-see...axy-s-iii-in-u.s.-for-violating-siri-patents/
And why would you hope for this? I'm against any apple crap against android.
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Why would you hope that happens? That's just letting apple have their way, so whenever they don't like another company, they can just get there products banned. If they don't like competition maybe they shouldn't be in a business.
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And why would you hope for this? I'm against any apple crap against android.
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Or against windows phone, etc.
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It will leave the HXO as top dog for a little while longer.
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PLEASE OP LEAVE XDA.
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/smh
Any move by apple against Android hurts the platform.
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It will leave the HXO as top dog for a little while longer.
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this makes no sense. what benefit do you get from HOX being top dog? absolutely nothing. It is just hurting Android as a whole since they are attacking Android. I never understood fanboyism.
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Any move by apple against Android hurts the platform.
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I see it differently. Apple can probably afford to fight HTC's legal team.. but Samsung? Not so much.
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Wow just wow... It's like these effin phone companies are run by a bunch of 3yo's.
Why can't they just sell their stupid phones and stfu!!
I mean every phone makers needs to stop whining about.
"waahh!!! waaahh!!! wahhh!! They stole my buttons!! You can't do that that's my ideaaaaa ...(sniffle, sniffle) you copy cat, thats my icon boo hoo hoo!!"
Enough with this!!!
Attention all cell phone makers:
STFU and sell us your stupid phones!!!
We don't care anymore!
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stumpyz9 said:
Why would you hope that happens? That's just letting apple have their way, so whenever they don't like another company, they can just get there products banned. If they don't like competition maybe they shouldn't be in a business.
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This +1
This just goes to show that apple is afraid of any type of products that outshines their's.
I think this shows how low apple will go. I hope it happens for a short amount of time. And during that time I feel it will comeback and bite apple in the rear.
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moehagene said:
I think this shows how low apple will go. I hope it happens for a short amount of time. And during that time I feel it will comeback and bite apple in the rear.
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How do you know it's low? What if Samsung is truly stealing apples property? Doesn't matter how small it is if it's not theirs. I certainly hope this isn't the case but who knows? Samsung and apple are the only ones that know.
If I were samsung I would just stop selling them parts.
Then they'd be sued for breach of contract.
Apple is just suing everyone left and right these days.. smh.
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We can clearly see how apple is ****ting bricks because IOS isn't doing so good they know android is taking over so they just sue everyone ...
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brekec88 said:
If I were samsung I would just stop selling them parts.
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gunnyman said:
Then they'd be sued for breach of contract.
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Make the iPad screens just good enough to last a year then fail.
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shahkam said:
We can clearly see how apple is ****ting bricks because IOS isn't doing so good they know android is taking over so they just sue everyone ...
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Gess that's what happens when you only have a new device every few years.. iOs isnt really that awful but the phones are obsolete after 6 months.
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Apple vs Samsung lawsuit

Have you been watching it.
Apple and Samsung have shown off some weird designs
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PS: apple needs to die!
Without apple there would be less competition and we'd have nothing to be better than. Windows phones don't even count
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Possibly this will slow apple down with their ridiculous patent suits
the judge is biased...
she blocked out the one evidence that's really important because apparently samsung submitted it too late(despite the fact that it was submitted it pre-trial)
introducing the samsung F700
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_f700-1849.php
announced before iphone and looks very much alike.
if apple wins this case it will be the joke of the century, one company successfully sues another over the patent for rectangular phone...and the company suing another is a new comer to the phone market...oh america..how low have you gone
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tombeach22 said:
Without apple there would be less competition and we'd have nothing to be better than. Windows phones don't even count
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over the years what has apple actually innovated on? samsung came out with a touchscreen phone before them..it's nott heir fault hipsters won't accept anything that isnt apple
android has had everything ios didnt way before ios..
wallpapers, voice search, freedom for the user(which ios users still don't have) and more... it's because apple is around, we don't have any competition...they're suing everyone that makes a better phone then them, and you're telling me without them theres no competition?
without apple there is less competition in the lawyer space..opposite for the phone space
The whole thing is a joke. I wish apple had died along with steve jobs.
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Does ANYONE think that at least ONE of the jurors isn't gonna see that evidence? Apple is scared of Samsungs numbers. They'll fall off just like they did before iphone
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I am not a fan boy for either side.. In all honesty I like both mobile platforms. But I will be very upset if apple wins this trial.. Even though the galaxy S did look an awful lot like an iphone and the ui in the galaxy S looked like ios at first glance.. I just don't see how you can patent a rectangle or the only practical design . It's not right for apple to say that Samsung copied them when it's obvious that they both inspired each other.
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here's some gather up of stuff i know
1. samsung already had a phone that looks like galaxy s/iphone pre-trial called the F700, the judge deliberately denied it as evidence because it came too late(they submitted it before the trial, how is it too late? if this was a murder investigation, a innocent man will be sentenced to 25years in prison because the evidence that he didn't do it came in too late)
2. we're looking at two rectangles
TWO RECTANGLES...OF COURSE THEY'LL LOOK A LIKE..are you friggen kidding me..
Kinda off topic but...I took my fam to Disneland and I guess I did not notice b4 since its been 4 years since the last time I was there and I didnt knew what a phone ROM was back then....anyways, seriously, about 90% of all the people there had iphones...yes 90%...and thats including all the nationalities u see there. It got me sick knowing the grip that Apple got on the average comsumer that doesn't have the slightest idea what a ROM is. Lets face it...wer just about 3% of the smartphone users out there. Im yet to know someone out there personally that has installed a new custom ROM in their Android device. They think Im just a ****ing nerd genius from another galaxy when I try to explain what I did to mine and my wife's phone. Apple devices have always been well advertised...in commercials, tv shows, and movies...compared to any other smartphone company...way way WAY b4 smartphones for the general population became avialable to the average person. I doubt Samsung (or any other smartphone maker) will ever be able to catch up to Apple. To the average person iphone will always be the one and only smartphone out there because thx to advertisement they have been told that.
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Where did the petition go for impeaching Lucy Koh? Went to sign it, and it is gone! Gotta love "free speech"! Lucy Koh is bought and paid for by crApple. She banned the jury from hearing the actual facts!
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c5satellite2 said:
Where did the petition go for impeaching Lucy Koh? Went to sign it, and it is gone! Gotta love "free speech"! Lucy Koh is bought and paid for by crApple. She banned the jury from hearing the actual facts!
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probably got censored
Apple has excellence PR
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grassyloki said:
Apple has excellence PR
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Excellence and Apple cannot be used in the same sentence. Fail.
VoiD_Dweller said:
Excellence and Apple cannot be used in the same sentence. Fail.
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I will half to agree
Apple = legal Hitler
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CrApple employees are just following orders, like the Nazi soldiers. We still hunt down Nazis to this day......
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I think this is dumbest lawsuit ever.....trying to patent an idea that every little kid since science fiction began.....Apple just had the balls to do it first even though Android had already been development.....
did i mention apple is trying to skimp on taxes by keeping profits out of country and trying to convince the government that they shoulddnt charge taxes on foreign profits? how patriotic of them
AznDud333 said:
did i mention apple is trying to skimp on taxes by keeping profits out of country and trying to convince the government that they shoulddnt charge taxes on foreign profits? how patriotic of them
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Yep, we should get the DOJ to investigate them for 10+ years like they did to ms.
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c5satellite2 said:
Yep, we should get the DOJ to investigate them for 10+ years like they did to ms.
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todays government is different from 20 years ago unfortunately, they listen to the rich guys..look how megaupload got took down
The biggest companies in the US don't pay their taxes. They continuously move dollars overseas. They manufacture elsewhere. Their executives make $350000+ per week on the average. They are killing us. One of top 3 reasons why we are dying here in the US.
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What's with everyone switching to the sgs3?

Is it the cool/popular thing to do or do they actually think it's a better phone?
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SkizzMcNizz said:
Is it the cool/popular thing to do or do they actually think it's a better phone?
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I'm still here
I can sum it up for you in one sentence.
The Samsung Galaxy S 3 is not locked down, and the HTC One X is.
I know two people who switched and didn't have one that was locked down. One is a developer and one did some theming.
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im not imporant but im leaving too lol
Psshh, s3 is way better!
SkizzMcNizz said:
Is it the cool/popular thing to do or do they actually think it's a better phone?
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what about if its cool ,popular and a better phone?.... millions own it already not a hard thing to find out why its such a success.
many of the people at my work place own one.. and none of them even know whats xda.. so is being unlocked still the key to that success?
If you don't have one then you don't know what your missing. S3 is just good in every department!! Say no more cuzzy!!
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*sigh*
I have an S3 on my account, I got it for a buddy of mine. I've spent a good deal of time playing with it and can't see the appeal at all. It just isn't anywhere near as nice as the HOX. 2GB of RAM, that's it. Everything else about it sucks compared to the HOX. My 1GB is working just fine for me.
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I have an S3 on my account, I got it for a buddy of mine. I've spent a good deal of time playing with it and can't see the appeal at all. It just isn't anywhere near as nice as the HOX. 2GB of RAM, that's it. Everything else about it sucks compared to the HOX. My 1GB is working just fine for me.
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Bingo u hit the nail on the head. People complain about the lack of removable battery. Ummmmmmm maybe 10% of pple would actually carry a spare. IPhone doesn't remove battery and I'm sure we're all aware of how well that does. And as far as storage goes, yea it wouldn't hurt to atleast have 32gb. But I havent filled 16. So consider me happy.
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gunnyman said:
*sigh*
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Lol!!
kemodread said:
If you don't have one then you don't know what your missing. S3 is just good in every department!! Say no more cuzzy!!
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have one and i use my one x more
I have my HOX, that's all I want and need for a phone for the next year.
S3 is a little too fancy imo, I'm allowed that after checking it out and seeing it first hand,meh.
WR
Rattled off a KingCobra OneX
Had an opportunity to switch out to an S3 but I didn't jump on it. Now I wish I had
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H8rift. XsMagical. Scott. And others are more then enough reasons for me to never leave this phone. And Rohan has done amazing things with AOKP and he is still in highschool if I'm not mistaken. These guys make our phone what it is and we have to work around ATT and HTC security features. The Devs we have are a reason not to leave.
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I know two people who switched and didn't have one that was locked down. One is a developer and one did some theming.
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Then you should ask them. And couple people isn't everyone.
The main reason is: most users if they don't buy the iPhone they'll go for sammy because of the brand. You don't know much about a smartphone but you at least know they make good tv's, computers, refrigerators, you name it. Where else do you see the HTC logo? Many people didn't hear about it. So, obviously pick the Samsung instead.
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H8rift. XsMagical. Scott. And others are more then enough reasons for me to never leave this phone. And Rohan has done amazing things with AOKP and he is still in highschool if I'm not mistaken. These guys make our phone what it is and we have to work around ATT and HTC security features. The Devs we have are a reason not to leave.
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Sorry to disappoint you but Scott now has a sgs3.
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He also has the one x and is still developing for it.
If I had the money to spare he would have an nexus 7 as well
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hmmm
What is the big deal about which smartphone you use? I would bet that most people on XDA are pretty well clued up about phone tech and so, money permitting, they will make an informed purchase, buying the phone that suits them best.
I own the SGS3 and yeah, I think it is top notch handset, but that doesn't mean I diss other handsets. I like to think I'm more evolved than that (though some of my pals would dispute that :laugh. If someone comes to me for smartphone buying advice, I will try my best to give an informed opinion based on my experience and their tech knowledge and needs...and quite often I'd send them down the iPhone route, not because I think it is a better phone (though Apple, whether you like it or not, make fantastic hardware, just a shame about the company ethos), but because it is probably the best phone for them.
Most on this particular thread will probably own an HTC...again good top noth handsets, but I personally avoid them due to a very bad customer service experience a couple of years ago (threads can be found elsewhere), but that doesn't stop me recommending them to others (though I do also relate my experiences). And many others on XDA will own a whole variety of other smartphones.
The point is, does it matter which phone you own? Yes, some people will spend a fortune on a top end handset just for bragging rights, but there's nothing worse than a 'phone snob'. Most of us on XDA buy what is best for us and are generally happy and if we're not, we switch.
You pays your (hard earned) cash and makes your (well informed) choice. Enjoy what you have, worry not what other think about it and be proud that you are part of XDA and have the knowledge to tinker with and give advice about your techie toys. Just don't get caught up in a 'mine's better than yours' debate.
Happy tinkering folks!

iPhone 5

Man does the new phone look boring and same old, same old.
Now to see how far HTC pushes the ITC...
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/09/10/apple_htc_patent/
For those that don't want to click, HTC is seeking to ban the iPhone 5 in the US due to the fact that HTC owns 2 patents relating to connecting a device to a 4G or LTE network.
Realistically, they'll probably just use it as leverage against Apple for something else rather than have an all out ban on importing the devices; but it will be interesting to see the result.
For the phone specifically...I agree *yawn*. 4 inch screen, big deal. 5 icon rows, whoopie... Absolutely nothing new in that department.
Sammy is also gonna strike at apple with its 12% of the world's LTE patents
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liquidzoo said:
Now to see how far HTC pushes the ITC...
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/09/10/apple_htc_patent/
For those that don't want to click, HTC is seeking to ban the iPhone 5 in the US due to the fact that HTC owns 2 patents relating to connecting a device to a 4G or LTE network.
Realistically, they'll probably just use it as leverage against Apple for something else rather than have an all out ban on importing the devices; but it will be interesting to see the result.
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I hope HTC/Samsung sue the heck out of Apple for how they've been acting.
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For the phone specifically...I agree *yawn*. 4 inch screen, big deal. 5 icon rows, whoopie... Absolutely nothing new in that department.
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I know, oh god. It's basically a 4 inch iPhone 4s.
It's a piece of crap. Iphone 5 can't even be compared to Skyrocket, no way it would match up with S3 or Note 2 :laugh: Only Ifans would consider this icrap as an "evolution".
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...5 icon rows, whoopie... Absolutely nothing new in that department.
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Whoopie? Really? 5 icon rows may seem like no big thing to you but I'll have you know that Apple has a patent on the number "5". So nobody has the right to use 5's without Apple's permission.
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Whoopie? Really? 5 icon rows may seem like no big thing to you but I'll have you know that Apple has a patent on the number "5". So nobody has the right to use 5's without Apple's permission.
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You guys are cracking me up. Like it's actually a bad device or something.
aycockonxion said:
You guys are cracking me up. Like it's actually a bad device or something.
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It is, it's just an iPhone 4s xl with lte
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In b4 thread gets locked.
I would have to think apple has taken into account the lte threats and has side stepped the patents in a sneaky way.
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You guys are cracking me up. Like it's actually a bad device or something.
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How is it a good device is there something innovative or revolutionary
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orlandoxpolice said:
In b4 thread gets locked.
I would have to think apple has taken into account the lte threats and has side stepped the patents in a sneaky way.
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According to the articles I've read about the HTC case the only thing they've done (for that specific case) is ask the judge to invalidate the patents...
Not much changed since 4S, but people will buy it anyway.
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It is, it's just an iPhone 4s xl with lte
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And an A6 processor. And a much better camera. And a different design. And a different connector.
And so.. how is it just like an iPhone 4S? Aside from the little silver picture of an apple on the back..
Seriously you guys.
That's it though, its faster and and has a better camera. That is expected from new phones. Nothing is exciting about the new iPhone.
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That's it though, its faster and and has a better camera. That is expected from new phones. Nothing is exciting about the new iPhone.
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And the S3 just blew everyone's socks off.
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And the S3 just blew everyone's socks off.
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I was left depressed by the s3 actually I want MOAR POWAH
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In b4 thread gets locked.
I would have to think apple has taken into account the lte threats and has side stepped the patents in a sneaky way.
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And the S3 just blew everyone's socks off.
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Agreed, the S3 was the same. nothing exciting
I was a little late to the smart phone era. The main thing that got me to the iPhone a while back was the fact that you could jailbreak it. At the time, in my opinion, and personal knowledge, Apple iOS had the apps and the features that I wanted in my professional and personal life. Since then, the manufactures, developers and community like this forum have taken the high end android based phones far pass anything Apple could put out. I want to break my phone so I can get a SIII or something just to keep testing out all the awesome things coming out. Keep up the work guys!
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I was left depressed by the s3 actually I want MOAR POWAH
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I'm givin' her all she's got, Cap'n!
But seriously, when (if?) there's an S4, it really does need to be a significant upgrade from the S3. Why spend all that money for a new phone just to get a little bit more RAM, a little bit faster processor, and a few other very minute improvements? I was ready to sell my SR to get an S3 just before they announced it, but I decided not too because it was so underwhelming. Based on today and *trying to be a reasonable individual* I think that, compared to the jump from SR to S3, the iPhone 4S to iPhone 5 is a pretty good upgrade.

Is this unreasonable?

My office has recently taken a stance of "our apps are built for iOS first" so being on Android I have to wait 6-12 months to get what others already have.
I decided to bite the bullet and put a local ad up to trade my rooted One X with 2 cases (perfect condition) for an iPhone 4s. A few days have gone by and I have not had a single response. Where I live it usually takes less than a day to get a deal done.
I though originally I was giving something up, so getting this phone for a 4s would be a bonus to whomever responded. Am I crazy? Set me straight here...
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People think iPhones are better cuz they cost more. Good luck.
What's the point of this thread?
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Just go buy an iPod ?
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Just go buy an iPod ?
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That's not a bad alternative...
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mirGantrophy said:
Just go buy an iPod ?
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This.
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This.
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That. Who cares.
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Retracted.....
Have your work provide an iPhone if that is what you need for WORK! Why should you compromise if they drag their ass making apps that you need for WORK!
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I'm of the opinion that people won't consider that an even trade. I personally traded my iPhone 4 for the HOX I have now, and it was worth more as well. Apple products just seem to have a higher value.
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Apple products just seem to have a higher value.
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True, iPhones tend to hold their resale value better. Just a quick browse through eBay, it looks like 4S is going for (ballpark) $300, and the One X is going for around $200. So many people will probably not see it as an even trade.
Plus, the cycle for Android phones is really around 6 months, where iPhones are upgraded yearly (another part of the reason for the difference in resale value). One X has already been superceded by the X+ in many respects, with the M7 not far from launch either. So even if someone is looking at switching to Android, they might see the One X as being almost 2 gens behind, versus the iPhone 4S, which is one gen behind, and likely won't be 2 gens behind until Oct/Nov.
Of course, value is subjective, and you might still get someone to trade. But odds are probably not in your favor. I'd think about posting it as a straight out sale, seeing what you can get for it, and use the money to buy what you want.
I traded a 4s for my HOX. That was 2 months ago when the prices were very close on eBay. I have owned and still own both iOS and Android, iOS holds their value.
That being said...HOX is one of the best Androids offered by AT&T. Even though used iPhones sell for more, it is still a fair trade. You will get a bite, it just may take a little time. All you need is someone tired of iOS.
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