Apple vs Samsung lawsuit - Android General

Have you been watching it.
Apple and Samsung have shown off some weird designs
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PS: apple needs to die!

Without apple there would be less competition and we'd have nothing to be better than. Windows phones don't even count
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Possibly this will slow apple down with their ridiculous patent suits

the judge is biased...
she blocked out the one evidence that's really important because apparently samsung submitted it too late(despite the fact that it was submitted it pre-trial)
introducing the samsung F700
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_f700-1849.php
announced before iphone and looks very much alike.
if apple wins this case it will be the joke of the century, one company successfully sues another over the patent for rectangular phone...and the company suing another is a new comer to the phone market...oh america..how low have you gone
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tombeach22 said:
Without apple there would be less competition and we'd have nothing to be better than. Windows phones don't even count
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over the years what has apple actually innovated on? samsung came out with a touchscreen phone before them..it's nott heir fault hipsters won't accept anything that isnt apple
android has had everything ios didnt way before ios..
wallpapers, voice search, freedom for the user(which ios users still don't have) and more... it's because apple is around, we don't have any competition...they're suing everyone that makes a better phone then them, and you're telling me without them theres no competition?
without apple there is less competition in the lawyer space..opposite for the phone space

The whole thing is a joke. I wish apple had died along with steve jobs.
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Does ANYONE think that at least ONE of the jurors isn't gonna see that evidence? Apple is scared of Samsungs numbers. They'll fall off just like they did before iphone
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I am not a fan boy for either side.. In all honesty I like both mobile platforms. But I will be very upset if apple wins this trial.. Even though the galaxy S did look an awful lot like an iphone and the ui in the galaxy S looked like ios at first glance.. I just don't see how you can patent a rectangle or the only practical design . It's not right for apple to say that Samsung copied them when it's obvious that they both inspired each other.
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here's some gather up of stuff i know
1. samsung already had a phone that looks like galaxy s/iphone pre-trial called the F700, the judge deliberately denied it as evidence because it came too late(they submitted it before the trial, how is it too late? if this was a murder investigation, a innocent man will be sentenced to 25years in prison because the evidence that he didn't do it came in too late)
2. we're looking at two rectangles
TWO RECTANGLES...OF COURSE THEY'LL LOOK A LIKE..are you friggen kidding me..

Kinda off topic but...I took my fam to Disneland and I guess I did not notice b4 since its been 4 years since the last time I was there and I didnt knew what a phone ROM was back then....anyways, seriously, about 90% of all the people there had iphones...yes 90%...and thats including all the nationalities u see there. It got me sick knowing the grip that Apple got on the average comsumer that doesn't have the slightest idea what a ROM is. Lets face it...wer just about 3% of the smartphone users out there. Im yet to know someone out there personally that has installed a new custom ROM in their Android device. They think Im just a ****ing nerd genius from another galaxy when I try to explain what I did to mine and my wife's phone. Apple devices have always been well advertised...in commercials, tv shows, and movies...compared to any other smartphone company...way way WAY b4 smartphones for the general population became avialable to the average person. I doubt Samsung (or any other smartphone maker) will ever be able to catch up to Apple. To the average person iphone will always be the one and only smartphone out there because thx to advertisement they have been told that.
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Where did the petition go for impeaching Lucy Koh? Went to sign it, and it is gone! Gotta love "free speech"! Lucy Koh is bought and paid for by crApple. She banned the jury from hearing the actual facts!
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c5satellite2 said:
Where did the petition go for impeaching Lucy Koh? Went to sign it, and it is gone! Gotta love "free speech"! Lucy Koh is bought and paid for by crApple. She banned the jury from hearing the actual facts!
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Apple has excellence PR
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grassyloki said:
Apple has excellence PR
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Excellence and Apple cannot be used in the same sentence. Fail.

VoiD_Dweller said:
Excellence and Apple cannot be used in the same sentence. Fail.
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I will half to agree
Apple = legal Hitler
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CrApple employees are just following orders, like the Nazi soldiers. We still hunt down Nazis to this day......
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I think this is dumbest lawsuit ever.....trying to patent an idea that every little kid since science fiction began.....Apple just had the balls to do it first even though Android had already been development.....

did i mention apple is trying to skimp on taxes by keeping profits out of country and trying to convince the government that they shoulddnt charge taxes on foreign profits? how patriotic of them

AznDud333 said:
did i mention apple is trying to skimp on taxes by keeping profits out of country and trying to convince the government that they shoulddnt charge taxes on foreign profits? how patriotic of them
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Yep, we should get the DOJ to investigate them for 10+ years like they did to ms.
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c5satellite2 said:
Yep, we should get the DOJ to investigate them for 10+ years like they did to ms.
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todays government is different from 20 years ago unfortunately, they listen to the rich guys..look how megaupload got took down

The biggest companies in the US don't pay their taxes. They continuously move dollars overseas. They manufacture elsewhere. Their executives make $350000+ per week on the average. They are killing us. One of top 3 reasons why we are dying here in the US.
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Samsung's Continued Lazyness isnt going to stop

http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/21/samsung-galaxy-tab-7-7-review-verizon-wireless-lte/
Why roll a new tab out with Honeycomb?
Why????
There Software Dev Team is f***ing lazy
I seriously doubt a multi-million dollar organization is "lazy".
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You were raped by a Samsung Rep as a child weren't you
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aaronv89 said:
I seriously doubt a multi-million dollar organization is "lazy".
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Just look at freaking apple, they rather sue somebody than try to be innovate !
netnerd said:
Just look at freaking apple, they rather sue somebody than try to be innovate !
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Mhx believes apple is the answer to androids problems
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nrm5110 said:
Mhx believes apple is the answer to androids problems
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oooooo no he didnt
Seems like Sammy is just flooding the market with everything they can. Must be some sort of corporate strategy to it rather than anything to do with the devs.
Maybe saving ICS for their most expensive devices to try to help them sell more?
I'm sure there is an ICS build for that tablet waiting and ready in the dev dept, just as I'm sure there is a stable, usable ics build for the Skyrocket that they're holding out on in the hopes of selling more Galaxy Nexuses...
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http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/21/samsung-galaxy-tab-7-7-review-verizon-wireless-lte/
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Anyone else notice that they have this brand new tab face down on the cement?
droid512 said:
oooooo no he didnt
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Ooooooooh yes I did lol
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netnerd said:
Just look at freaking apple, they rather sue somebody than try to be innovate !
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Is this a joke? A business runs on a lot more than innovation. Pay attention in school.
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There are other manufacturers like Motorola who are worse, Samsung is one of the best carriers in the world. If you don't like them you don't have to buy their products
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Pete1612 said:
There are other manufacturers like Motorola who are worse, Samsung is one of the best carriers in the world. If you don't like them you don't have to buy their products
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Are you a George Bush follower? Just wondering. With the if your not with us, get out mentality.
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Are you a George Bush follower? Just wondering. With the if your not with us, get out mentality.
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I think he is just saying quit crying like a little girl to him
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aaronv89 said:
Is this a joke? A business runs on a lot more than innovation. Pay attention in school.
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Yep money lawyers and awesome theifs LOL no your right but in an industry like this innovation is key one must change and adapt to needs of the time apples general theme thus far has been to slow down competition instead of adapting they have battled and wasted tons of money and with little to no success they are sweating and know they have to do something soon.
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nrm5110 said:
Yep money lawyers and awesome theifs LOL no your right but in an industry like this innovation is key one must change and adapt to needs of the time apples general theme thus far has been to slow down competition instead of adapting they have battled and wasted tons of money and with little to no success they are sweating and know they have to do something soon.
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Apple is the considered the top brand in the WORLD. There are literally riots to get hands on an iPhone. They just released the new iPad.... People are literally sitting in their homes with a wad of cash waiting for Apples next product to just throw their hundreds or even thousands of dollars at them.
What I'm trying to say is that Apple has achieved superior brand recognition. If you understand the life cycle of an industry then you will understand that Apple isn't going anywhere for a while. They aren't sweating, they basically created the smartphone, apps, and tablet industries. So please don't tell me they aren't innovative.
The truth is that android will never be as popular as iOS. Maybe someday sales will surpass Apple but there isn't one company that is going to be as powerful as Apple when it comes to phones or tablets.
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aaronv89 said:
The truth is that android will never be as popular as iOS. Maybe someday sales will surpass Apple but there isn't one company that is going to be as powerful as Apple when it comes to phones or tablets.
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then why are you here?? go play with your apple!
aaronv89 said:
Apple is the considered the top brand in the WORLD. There are literally riots to get hands on an iPhone. They just released the new iPad.... People are literally sitting in their homes with a wad of cash waiting for Apples next product to just throw their hundreds or even thousands of dollars at them.
What I'm trying to say is that Apple has achieved superior brand recognition. If you understand the life cycle of an industry then you will understand that Apple isn't going anywhere for a while. They aren't sweating, they basically created the smartphone, apps, and tablet industries. So please don't tell me they aren't innovative.
The truth is that android will never be as popular as iOS. Maybe someday sales will surpass Apple but there isn't one company that is going to be as powerful as Apple when it comes to phones or tablets.
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Wrong. Apple didn't invent any of those markets, they only made them appeam to the masses. The reason apple is so successfully is that there market strategy has always been getting regular people to buy tech that otherwise only people on this forum would use.
Brand loyalty and a lack of innovation will only get u so far. People will sooner or later catch on to the fact that the price premium for specs that are always months behind current competitive flagships of other companies.
I honestly believe that yes, people will continue to use iphones, but now that their is a genuine mature competitor, the markrt will change.
Actually sale of android devices have surpassed apple at times and they innovate nothing anymore they lead on a name alone and people to afraid or stuck in their own ways to try something new I pad 3 bigger resolution and better graphics processing that's your third Gen update cool.... please
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nrm5110 said:
to try something new I pad 3 bigger resolution and better graphics processing that's your third Gen update cool.... please
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you forgot the HEAT! didnt people complaing about ipad3 overheating?
Its minimal and manageable I don't see that as a problem
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Apple Wins Touch Screen Patents

Apple Wins Touch Screen Patents including, electronic lists, multi touch, moving icons, pinch to zoom, and more...
More details below:
http://www.acsyndicate.net/apple-aw...ts-the-possible-end-of-android-as-we-know-it/
Google needs to act quick and fix this issue!
Comments?
Crap! I like my Android so much better than the iPhone...
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I just hate apple soooooo much
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leezrd said:
I just hate apple soooooo much
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Same man. I used to own iPhones.
chunkers said:
Same man. I used to own iPhones.
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I never wanted an apple anything... that is like Henry Ford winning the patent for the wheel
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When they run out of ideas they just start trying to take them away from other companies.
Apple died with Jobbs.
Good riddence.
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Burn in hell Apple! **** you!!!!!
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Had seen this already but still a pretty good write-up of it. What is ridiculous is that depending on how Apple applies this Google and everyone else could literally have to fight each individual patent one by one. Apple, you are truly garbage.
Oh yes, windows phone is definitely the way to go...
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droid4sale said:
I never wanted android to win go apple. I hope samsung and htc quits android and start on windows 8 phones.
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Since I'm in the mood to feed you, you do realize that Apple will be able to use this against Windows as well right?
droid4sale said:
I never wanted android to win go apple. I hope samsung and htc quits android and start on windows 8 phones.
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MissionImprobable said:
Since I'm in the mood to feed you, you do realize that Apple will be able to use this against Windows as well right?
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MissionImprobable is right... hello, Windows Phone is a touchscreen device, read the OP, and article next time...
No offense.
The only problem I have with this is that the apple fanboys are calling the patents an apple "innovation" when it's obviously not.
Goddamn it apple is such a whingy company. I reckon they need to stop suing people, and start innovating.
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http://phandroid.com/?p=102440
Samsung just OWNED Apple!!!
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Snook321 said:
http://phandroid.com/?p=102440
Samsung just OWNED Apple!!!
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Very interesting article. I hope the idiots that keep granting apple these silly patents open their eyes to this.
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Sony should sue apple
http://www.pcworld.com/article/25984...spiration.html
Apple is run by greedy bastards, all they care about is making money that's why their products suck and their advertising is awesome. They can't get rid of the companies that actually put time in effort into their products. I will use my old flip phone before I buy anything from those a**holes at apple
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droid4sale said:
Im using my old flip phone when i go camping or river fishing lol
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I just use my galaxy note for everything this thing will never break... Unlike the iphone
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droid4sale said:
I never wanted android to win go apple. I hope samsung and htc quits android and start on windows 8 phones.
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I thought you had another phone that was better?
droid4sale said:
Im very excited for android to die i can't wait. Samsung cant even sell enough tv's to pay for the fines.good luck android die a very fast death.
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I thinks we have a troll....
droid4sale said:
My iphone still runs perfect.never any issues but on my s3 i had to many so i sold it.
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I'm glad you like your iPhone, just know that by buying any apple product you are paying "stupid fees" , or "dummy tax" sort of speak. It will work out of the box the way they say, and no other way.
Android gives the user complete control as to what is or isn't on their device.
Congratulations on being dictated by a fascist corporation, and leave us free people to our far superior way of thinking.
No one likes apple or you for that matter so go join a apple fanboy jerk circle somewhere else.
Have a nice day
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Can't we just get along?

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depends how you look at it.
Fresh on the scene: Apple+FB alliance against Google.
A part of me wonders what these companies could achieve if they were all butt buddies and teamed up...what they could achieve together....and a part of me has to accept that there must always be casualties in creative-destructions
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As much as I respect the things Apple has accomplished as a company, I sincerely dislike the way they handle business. They technically do work with Samsung right?
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This was funny. Thanks
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sams27 said:
As much as I respect the things Apple has accomplished as a company, I sincerely dislike the way they handle business. They technically do work with Samsung right?
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The nature of their relationship is like... "frienemies"
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Samsung makes like 10% of their sales to Apple, so its a close relationship otherwise. Although if they grew a pair, now would be a time to "complicate" the relationship because the iPhone 5 would be quite delayed, killing their sales, and some of the fan base who are looking to upgrade soon.
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The nature of their relationship is like... "frienemies"
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I had a "frienemy" once. I later beat the crap out of him.
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sams27 said:
I had a "frienemy" once. I later beat the crap out of him.
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So you're Apple
He was Samsung
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So you're Apple
He was Samsung
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I suppose. I can't help but to feel offended by your comment sir lol.
sams27 said:
I suppose. I can't help but to feel offended by your comment sir lol.
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Oh it wasn't a comment. I thought you were giving me a puzzle to solve. lol
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Samsung makes like 10% of their sales to Apple, so its a close relationship otherwise. Although if they grew a pair, now would be a time to "complicate" the relationship because the iPhone 5 would be quite delayed, killing their sales, and some of the fan base who are looking to upgrade soon.
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10% wouldn't make a huge deal to Samsung, the best thing they could do now is hit Apple where it hurts the most: cripple their iPhone 5 production without much prior notice by not selling them parts, and we'll see who the ***** is then. I wish one of Apple's supply companies would put them in their place so they can see how dependent they are on other companies even though they keep sueing them. Apple doesn't make anything on their own as far as hardware like Sammy or Moto do, so they wouldn't get very far if others started treating them the way Apple treats others, then they'd figure out how dependent they really are. Someone's knocking on the door, I better go it's probably the Apple police looking for people that don't blindly think they're great, lol.
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10% wouldn't make a huge deal to Samsung
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Tell that to their shareholders also a contract is a contract. Would u welcome another lawsuit? One I would think could easily won?
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Tell that to the thousands of factory worker who albeit already live under the poverty level, that they no longer have a source of income to support their families.
10% is big bro, and HUGE for a company like Samsung...who reported 40 Billion revenue in Q1....
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Problem is they have a contract with Apple, and unless they are willing to break that contract and without a doubt get sued with absolutely no hope of winning, they won't do that.
ha-ha that's just not going to happen.

Samsung and HTC attempt to ban iPhone 5

Just came upon this. I doubt sales will actually be stopped even if Apple loses any potential cases, but interesting nonetheless.
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Apple-Samsung-HTC-Patent-Lawsuit,17595.html
I think it's what the deserve
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I hate really apple
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Ha ha ha I hope they take a bite out of apple
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Even though it sounds evil I would love to see the Iphone 5 get banned in the US. Apple needs to be put in its place so that technology can evolve freely.
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I think they both need to suck it up and get over it. If they both have so many billions to waste, why not give it to charities instead of each other? Bottom line- the i5 sucks something fierce but won't go away... we can only put them in their places with our rooted, over clocked, custom Android Phones
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Don't think it will help anyone if the successfully ban the Iphone 5. It will just give every company the impression than they can now go to court file some paperwork and screw with their bottomline even if only temporary.
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I think they both need to suck it up and get over it. If they both have so many billions to waste, why not give it to charities instead of each other?
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I agree that the patent trolling and lawsuit wars helps no one in the end. And I'm sure the iPhone 5 won't get banned. But doing nothing seems like a bad strategy for HTC and Samsung. Seems to make sense to fight back. Otherwise it like just letting someone kick the crap out of you, and doing nothing.
If there was some way to get all parties to just stop with the lawsuits, and just concentrate on making awesome and competitive products, that would be wonderful. But I don't think that's going to happen anytime soon.
As much as I hate apple and what they're doing, these patent wars are getting obnoxious. Can't we just get along? In the end, it's us that feel the backlash!
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Don't think it will help anyone if the successfully ban the Iphone 5. It will just give every company the impression than they can now go to court file some paperwork and screw with their bottomline even if only temporary.
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This is what apple has done to HTC multiple times, I believe this phone was banned in the us because of apple
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superchilpil said:
This is what apple has done to HTC multiple times, I believe this phone was banned in the us because of apple
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It was banned for quite a while. I got really lucky that the best buy I went to had one. Although it was kinda fun cause I could rub it in my friends faces cause they couldn't get it yet. Made me feel special
Pretty sure apple also got the galaxy nexus taking off of the google website for a couple days as well.
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It was banned for quite a while. I got really lucky that the best buy I went to had one.
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The One X wasn't so much "banned" as "delayed" by US Customs (at the request of Apple) until it was verified that the phone conformed to the patent ruling on the feature to launch an app when an URL, phone number, etc. was tapped in an email or text.
Why it took a month for Customs to verify this, I have no idea.
That's the word I couldn't think of. Delayed. Sorry
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i vaguely recall being able to click on a link/phone number/etc and having it do what i want on my OLD windows mobile phone that was released pre iphone. But hey, I guess if i could sue anyone if i bought them all ipads too.

Samsung sues after all.

Samsung is going to sue apple for the Iphone 5 and the ipad 3, for the eight patents that are standard for lte. Way to go Samsung!
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Yes, time for the patent troll to get trolled back. Hopefully this patent trolling can come to an end soon. I'd much rather see companies work to innovate instead of trying to sue one another. But seeing that Apple's plan is to sue to competition out of existence instead of innovating, then I support Samsung.
I would love Samsung to destroy Apple...I know it won't happen but it would be nice to see Apple having to shell out for a change!
These patent wars are so dumb
spunker88 said:
Yes, time for the patent troll to get trolled back. Hopefully this patent trolling can come to an end soon. I'd much rather see companies work to innovate instead of trying to sue one another. But seeing that Apple's plan is to sue to competition out of existence instead of innovating, then I support Samsung.
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I support Samsung but unfortunately the same thing will happen as always happens in US when apple use someone else's patents, the itc or a judge will rule those patents essential or say apple don't infringe.
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No matter what samsung does if they keep going to judge koh they will loose because she's on apple's side apple can violate all Samsung pattents and will say they're standards if Samsung wants a chance to win they will have to change to another jurisdiction.
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spunker88 said:
Yes, time for the patent troll to get trolled back. Hopefully this patent trolling can come to an end soon. I'd much rather see companies work to innovate instead of trying to sue one another. But seeing that Apple's plan is to sue to competition out of existence instead of innovating, then I support Samsung.
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The iPhone 5 is selling well - it's time for Apple to pay for the patents they're using.
The wonderful Wozniak says he would rather everyone just trade patents and get back to making great products for three people, sadly he does not run apple. And that koh is full blown retard. No understanding of modern technology... Wonder if she uses an iphone....
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Honestly if the iphone goes or vice versa it would be bad for the economy with all those iphone lovers and buyers out there. The only reason the economy didnt suffer as much is cause the banned phones were not flagships like the gs3
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I'm really hoping for Samsung. Apple needs to stop this madness..
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Honestly if the iphone goes or vice versa it would be bad for the economy with all those iphone lovers and buyers out there. The only reason the economy didnt suffer as much is cause the banned phones were not flagships like the gs3
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The S3 is one of the devices apple are trying to add to the list of infringing devices as they want it banned from sale.
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mistermentality said:
The S3 is one of the devices apple are trying to add to the list of infringing devices as they want it banned from sale.
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Oh screw apple. I shall piss on them. I shall eat your apples.
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http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/09/12/htc-and-samsung-will-likely-sue-apple-over-iphone-5
Looks like HTC might be in as well. Interesting seeing Apple potentially be on the other end of the courtroom.
Software patent system is so corrupt :/

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