Galaxy S3 Rooting Affect OTA Updates? - General Questions and Answers

I'm new to rooting and saw the tutorial at this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27751112&postcount=1
I want to root my phone but am unsure if this will affect my phone's capability of getting OTA Updates. I am using Sprint
A couple questions:
1) Will I have to go through some other procedure to get the latest Android/Sprint updates?
2) Will updates occur normally and cause me to lose root access? I'll simply have to re-root?
3) Is the procedure above "stock rooting" the phone?
Thanks!

Hoping to get a response fairly quickly...anybody have any information?
coolStoryBro1 said:
I'm new to rooting and saw the tutorial at this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27751112&postcount=1
I want to root my phone but am unsure if this will affect my phone's capability of getting OTA Updates. I am using Sprint
A couple questions:
1) Will I have to go through some other procedure to get the latest Android/Sprint updates?
2) Will updates occur normally and cause me to lose root access? I'll simply have to re-root?
3) Is the procedure above "stock rooting" the phone?
Thanks!
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coolStoryBro1 said:
I'm new to rooting and saw the tutorial at this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27751112&postcount=1
I want to root my phone but am unsure if this will affect my phone's capability of getting OTA Updates. I am using Sprint
A couple questions:
1) Will I have to go through some other procedure to get the latest Android/Sprint updates?
2) Will updates occur normally and cause me to lose root access? I'll simply have to re-root?
3) Is the procedure above "stock rooting" the phone?
Thanks!
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1. You can accept the OTA but you can run into problems.
2. If no problem occurs, usually the phone becomes unrooted. However there is an app ( https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.projectvoodoo.otarootkeeper) that supposedly let's you keep root when updating but I haven't used it so don't know about success rate.
3. That procedure should root your phone and leave it stock ROM, yes.
However I suggest you just install a custom ROM after rooting
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The only thing keeping me from getting this phone is lack of root and the locked bootloader. However, I might be able to survive without a custom ROM if I can at least have root.
Would I have to buy this phone ASAP in order to use this root exploit before Verizon/Samsung try to patch it? If they do patch it, would there be a way to downgrade to a vulnerable version of the OS so I could apply this root in case I don't get the phone before they patch it?
lampclip said:
The only thing keeping me from getting this phone is lack of root and the locked bootloader. However, I might be able to survive without a custom ROM if I can at least have root.
Would I have to buy this phone ASAP in order to use this root exploit before Verizon/Samsung try to patch it? If they do patch it, would there be a way to downgrade to a vulnerable version of the OS so I could apply this root in case I don't get the phone before they patch it?
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You should be able to ODIN backwards and still root.
Will adaway trip Knox?
Once I root using this method if I install adaway will it trip Knox?
Has anyone been able to do the "switch to supersu" part? I'm wondering if it can be done on a mac?
Galaxy S6 (Verizon)
senoma314 said:
Once I root using this method if I install adaway will it trip Knox?
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No, you will not. Unless something touches the bootloader or recovery partitions, you're fine.
sd0070 said:
Has anyone been able to do the "switch to supersu" part? I'm wondering if it can be done on a mac?
Galaxy S6 (Verizon)
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Yeah it was easy once I setup adb again. Copy paste. Just go slow
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sd0070 said:
Has anyone been able to do the "switch to supersu" part? I'm wondering if it can be done on a mac?
Galaxy S6 (Verizon)
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It was pretty easy on my Win8.1 laptop. Although, one command toward then didn't work for some reason. It just gave me a permission denied error. The process still worked and I'm on Supersu now without any problems.
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hopesrequiem said:
Yeah it was easy once I setup adb again. Copy paste. Just go slow
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EDIT: I seem to have it almost working, but when I try to push SU to my device it says my device is not authorized and to check the confirmation on my device. There is no confirmation on my device. Debugging is checked. A serial number (my device) appears in the cmd prompt when I run "adb devices". What am I missing?
EDIT2: I just unchecked/rechecked usb debugging and I got the prompt to authorize. Everything is working now
Galaxy S6 (Verizon)
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All is well. Thanks guys!
work?
It works?
If so, can someone please do me a favor?
I flashed back to complete stock with Odin and I keep getting app not installed errors and can't install the ping pong app. What am I doing wrong?
Just got a notification about an OTA Samsung software update. If I install it will the root stay?
voldyy said:
Just got a notification about an OTA Samsung software update. If I install it will the root stay?
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Root won't stay, or at least I've never seen an update where root remained, but the reports are that it is rootable. I haven't tested it yet.
Tulsadiver said:
Root won't stay, or at least I've never seen an update where root remained, but the reports are that it is rootable. I haven't tested it yet.
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Correct the OTA can be rooted
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I've had my S6 since close to noon today. Nice device.
Now the confusion..
I have been waiting for an OTA to get to OC3 but now I'm not sure I don't already have a newer build than that??
Under build number I've got: LRX22G.G920VVRU1AOE2
I am guessing this is newer than LRX22G.G920VVRU1AOC3 which is in a lot of recent posts.
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well yes I have the newest already. Just used PingPong root to root it. Had to do it a couple times before it took but works great.
voldyy said:
Just got a notification about an OTA Samsung software update. If I install it will the root stay?
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Same here but I keep hearing to update to the ota using Odin or samsung smart switch...if u take the ota and root the new ota let me knw. I'm about to update ota through my settings, I knw I will lose root but I keep seeing the ota can be rooted using ping pong again
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Have there been any findings about what a possible root for OF1 COULD look like?
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DroidXrei said:
Have there been any findings about what a possible root for OF1 COULD look like?
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Sure, when the process is complete you will have root and when you reboot the phone it will say custom on the slash screen.
Other than that it is still a little fuzzy.
OF1 has the patched kernel and cannot be rooted nor can it be downgraded back to AOE2 or AOC3

[Q] Unlocking + rooting

Sorry for the noob questions, I've been looking through the tutorials and FAQs for hours, and am still not quite sure, so bear with me.
1) I would like to get a Nexus 5 from my friend. She is on Sprint. I am on Verizon. Will this work?
2) I would like to root the phone. It is upgraded to Lollipop. Still root-able?
3) Currently watching the Google I/O and Android M looks nice. Will I be able to update Android and keep root? If I lose root, will the Nexus always be rootable with every Android version?
Thanks all.
1) The Nexus 5 doesn't work on Verizon. Sorry.
2) Yes. You can root via a custom recovery.
3) The OTA will probably fail if you're rooted. Besides, going from Lollipop to M I'd probably do a clean install instead of an update.
dkconor said:
1) The Nexus 5 doesn't work on Verizon. Sorry.
2) Yes. You can root via a custom recovery.
3) The OTA will probably fail if you're rooted. Besides, going from Lollipop to M I'd probably do a clean install instead of an update.
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I guess I'm out of luck then. Thanks anyway.

Easy way to unroot without wiping?

Just read this on Reddit, and wanted to confirm if this actually works. Basically, a user used the VZW Update Assistant to take the OTA which unrooted their phone, but successfully updated without needing to wipe.
http://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyS6/comments/38c8tw/how_to_unroot_your_verizon_s6_the_easy_way_no_wipe/
if you prefer root then why would you want to update to not having root? if you just wait a few days then devs will have a root update file.
I was curious if this was a valid and complete way to unroot if needed.
Has this method been validated? Does it wipe all data and basically ODINs back to stock?
If you read the linked post he says it will not wipe data.
Hi! So like many others I wanted to unroot my S6 so I could take advantage of the Verizon OTA update. I was a little bothered when I read that it is very difficult and you need to flash odin and download firmware (which someone needs to upload better links too, the only ones available are all hosted on RapeGator and take like 2 days to download). Anyway, I found an easy no wipe way to do this.
Plug your phone into your computer and download the Verizon Update Assistant software. Plug your phone in and follow the instructions to UPDATE your phone. The phone will have a teal screen that says "Downloading" then it will do typical Android stuff and then it will boot up with an unlocked bootloader symbol with the word Custom written underneath. Your phone is officially unrooted, not wiped, and has the latest Verizon software update available. Note, after you reboot after the phone was unrooted the unlocked bootloader symbol goes away.
Edit: Knox has not been tripped!
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Did you try this method and confirm? Is it rerootable with the updated PingPong
I haven't tried it yet. Still waiting for validation from someone. I was hoping to use this method to unroot, take OTA, and re-root now that PingPong has been updated.
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I took the plunge and it worked perfectly. If you're on stock rooted OC3, you can unroot and take the OTA successfully with this method.
Can I do this directly from CleanROM ?
I would like to know if I can go from CleanROM 1.0 to the unrooted OTA OE2 without losing data?
Can someone clarify that or do I need to be on Stock Rooted OC3
musicfreak190 said:
Can I do this directly from CleanROM ?
I would like to know if I can go from CleanROM 1.0 to the unrooted OTA OE2 without losing data?
Can someone clarify that or do I need to be on Stock Rooted OC3
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In the Clean Rom thread, they said that this won't work. Didn't specify why, however.
musicfreak190 said:
Can I do this directly from CleanROM ?
I would like to know if I can go from CleanROM 1.0 to the unrooted OTA OE2 without losing data?
Can someone clarify that or do I need to be on Stock Rooted OC3
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In the CleanROM thread it's indicated that you need to take the update to OE2 before you can update to the new CleanROM 1.5.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...rom-cleanrom-1-0-clean-smooth-stable-t3110600
Can someone confirm this that it does not wipe the phone? A friend of mine rooted his Verizon S6 with PingPong app and he wants to unroot it due to various issues. Will this method work?

[Q] PingPong Root, Android Versions, and OTA Updates

I've been away from the Samsung world for a little while, so I am not entirely sure what the status of certain things is:
I see comments about battery issues on 5.1.1 devices after PingPong - how bad are those issues if they are still present?
Are there any (other) downsides to updating my S6 to 5.1 before rooting it with PingPong?
Will I be able to continue getting OTA updates after root?
I think I am only interested in rooting my device for now - I'll try to skip the custom ROM for now, and with root I should be able to debloat the phone sufficiently.
Battery is bad after root because device won't go to deep sleep. This can be fixed. Just go to chain fire cfauto root thread and there is a fix. Also you won't receive otas after root
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jesus, do people just blindly post
No, not blindly. But the PingPong Root thread is 200+ pages, and refers me to a thread warning me about using Odin to flash 5.1.1 - which I wasn't planning to do, I was planning on OTAing 5.1.1 and PingPong-ing then, which doesn't require Odin.
So, to be perfectly safe, I can OTA to 5.1.1 now, gain root with CFAR, and then apply the deep sleep fix, and should be fine?
1. Ping-pong root does NOT work on 5.1.1. The deep sleep issues come from rooting via TWRP/CF-AUTO but of course that trips KNOX.
2. See no. 1
3. You can get OTAs but you will not be able to install them while rooted. In fact, I don't believe you can even download them while you're rooted.
4. READ, READ, READ! This stuff has been asked and answered 1000x in these forums.
*Flies away*
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¿Will-it-Blend? said:
1. Ping-pong root does NOT work on 5.1.1. The deep sleep issues come from rooting via TWRP/CF-AUTO but of course that trips KNOX.
2. See no. 1
3. You can get OTAs but you will not be able to install them while rooted. In fact, I don't believe you can even download them while you're rooted.
4. READ, READ, READ! This stuff has been asked and answered 1000x in these forums.
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I rooted my phone with ping-pong and still got deep sleep issue
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stick to AOC9, flash a custom rom... done an done
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Marshmallow!

With the update coming sometime in the near future, what does that mean for us with rooted phones? More specifically, us losers who are on the Puerto Rican rom.
I imagine if we update we lose root, but is there any way we can get back on the American AT&T H810 after the update comes out?
I just got the phone from Craig's list. When I got home and I did more research I realized I got screwed. They sold me the PR version of the phone. At least I got it for 280 unlocked and no scratches almost new.
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Nirvana Rules said:
I just got the phone from Craig's list. When I got home and I did more research I realized I got screwed. They sold me the PR version of the phone. At least I got it for 280 unlocked and no scratches almost new.
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Yikes sorry! Do you have the green spot issue in the camera? It's a decent rom save for that issue. Allows you to get rid of everything (bloatware). I've been dying to add xposed, but without being able to back anything up makes it a little iffy. AT&T seems to be the worst when it comes to allowing their devices to be unlocked.
robertaguilerajr said:
With the update coming sometime in the near future, what does that mean for us with rooted phones? More specifically, us losers who are on the Puerto Rican rom.
I imagine if we update we lose root, but is there any way we can get back on the American AT&T H810 after the update comes out?
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If LG releases a KDZ for ATT you can. However, even those of us who are on att firmware can't take OTA updates after rooting (even if flashing an unrooted system img). LGs root checker tool flags the system on the /persist partition
This means that you will have to UN-Root your phone. Download & install the update. Put your phone into download mode. DD if=OS of=Backup.img
Then root that backup (Or get it from someone who posted it on an XDA Root site)
Once it is rooted, then DD if=RootedOS of=OS (Disk dump it back to the phone)
Now you have a rooted Marshmellow OS on your phone.
bigjohnman said:
This means that you will have to UN-Root your phone. Download & install the update. Put your phone into download mode. DD if=OS of=Backup.img
Then root that backup (Or get it from someone who posted it on an XDA Root site)
Once it is rooted, then DD if=RootedOS of=OS (Disk dump it back to the phone)
Now you have a rooted Marshmellow OS on your phone.
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Please also know, once you root, you will NOT be able to take any future OTA Updates. Even if you flash back your unrooted System.img.
LG's Root Checker Tool prevents this. You can read more about it http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-...lysis-t3229175
UNLESS They Release a KDZ.
warri said:
Please also know, once you root, you will NOT be able to take any future OTA Updates. Even if you flash back your unrooted System.img.
LG's Root Checker Tool prevents this. You can read more about it http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-...lysis-t3229175
UNLESS They Release a KDZ.
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I did the H81010g root a while back. Is there a way for me to get on the O update, preferably rooted?
warri said:
Please also know, once you root, you will NOT be able to take any future OTA Updates. Even if you flash back your unrooted System.img.
LG's Root Checker Tool prevents this. You can read more about it http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-...lysis-t3229175
UNLESS They Release a KDZ.
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this is false. i was rooted on 10g, i unrooted and flashed stock system.img and took the update to 10o just fine.
you need to do a few things to prepare first
1) unfreeze any apps you may have frozen with debloater/titanium/greenify/etc
2) disable and uninstall any xposed modules
3) uninstall xposed (if you have it)
4) uninstall flashfire (if you have it)
5) uninstall any root apps (aside from supersu)
6) open supersu, uncheck "enable superuser" and then select full unroot, than reboot
7) download and flash the stock system.img for whatever firmware you are currently rooted on
8) now your unrooted and you may update via ota
this thread will help for flashing, just make sure you use the stock version of your current firmware: http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/general/lg-g4-100-root-success-directives-root-t3180586
you can find lots of system.img files and more tips here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/general/att-h810-update-8-31-v10i-t3190714
this post is also useful for unrooting: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62640811&postcount=27
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ajent said:
I did the H81010g root a while back. Is there a way for me to get on the O update, preferably rooted?
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easily done, check my post above. after you take the ota to 10o you will just need to root that basically the same way you did with 10g
thecrunked said:
easily done, check my post above. after you take the ota to 10o you will just need to root that basically the same way you did with 10g
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I completed those steps, however right at 4% still getting error 0x1123004.
I re-rooted just to make sure everything was unfrozen etc, uninstalled everything, then flashed unrooted image back, still giving the error.
Guess i'll have to wait for another method.
ajent said:
I completed those steps, however right at 4% still getting error 0x1123004.
I re-rooted just to make sure everything was unfrozen etc, uninstalled everything, then flashed unrooted image back, still giving the error.
Guess i'll have to wait for another method.
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might want to look at this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/att...t-analysis-t3229175/post63389636#post63389636
i went from 10g to 10o so that could explain why i didnt have a problem

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