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So I want to use a navigation app on the MyTouch 4G without using any data. If I'm not mistaken, the Google Navigation app uses data to download the map of your current location. The new HTC Sense maps (again if I'm not mistaken) are saved on the phone and don't use data. So my question is if I can get the HTC maps on the MyTouch 4g (specifically without having to root the phone and flash the new Sense rom onto it)?
What's the point of using a mthd without data? Really just defeats the purpose of having this kinda phone if you ask me... Just my opinion though
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^ What he said!
They build HSPA+.....
what you were sayin' ...? ))
But, srsly, I see were you coming from....I would rather store my maps on SD so it can be cached faster, especially for "out of 3G/4G range" towns
Its not that I don't want to use data with the phone, I do. Its just that I am considering switching to the cheaper limited data plans that T-Mobile will roll out in the near future. So thats why not using data for the nav would be great.
ArcticWolf91 said:
Its not that I don't want to use data with the phone, I do. Its just that I am considering switching to the cheaper limited data plans that T-Mobile will roll out in the near future. So thats why not using data for the nav would be great.
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The "limited" data plan will only work with certain phones. The mt4g will be a premium device that will require the unlimited data plan.
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Yeah but I'm using a G1, so I can just use that to get the new data plan, then I will buy the MyTouch 4G off-contract and swap the sim.
ArcticWolf91 said:
Yeah but I'm using a G1, so I can just use that to get the new data plan, then I will buy the MyTouch 4G off-contract and swap the sim.
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Tricky fellow! LOL! J/K
Sounds like a good idea.
If you're trying to avoid getting the unlimited plan by pretending you're still using your G1, it won't work. They have a database of all the IMEI #s and the IMEI of the phone you're using gets transmitted, so they can see what you're using.
Back on AT&T, I bought a used iPhone (original model) and spoofed the IMEI to avoid having to pay for the iPhone data plan. Not sure if you can do this on Android.
You can see what I'm talking about by going to your T-Mobile account online and somewhere it should say which phone you're using. If you switch to another T-Mobile phone, it'll change. Carriers only have the IMEI #s of the phones that are branded by them. So if you put your T-Mobile SIM in an AT&T or unlocked, unbranded phone, it wouldn't show that phone under your account.
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If you're trying to avoid getting the unlimited plan by pretending you're still using your G1, it won't work. They have a database of all the IMEI #s and the IMEI of the phone you're using gets transmitted, so they can see what you're using.
Back on AT&T, I bought a used iPhone (original model) and spoofed the IMEI to avoid having to pay for the iPhone data plan. Not sure if you can do this on Android.
You can see what I'm talking about by going to your T-Mobile account online and somewhere it should say which phone you're using. If you switch to another T-Mobile phone, it'll change. Carriers only have the IMEI #s of the phones that are branded by them. So if you put your T-Mobile SIM in an AT&T or unlocked, unbranded phone, it wouldn't show that phone under your account.
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All of the above is true... Sold phones for years at radioshack...
Well it doesn't matter anyway because the new data plans will be available for all phones. From the leaked(?) document: "T-Mobile will respond to our customers' needs by introducing a new low-cost $10/$15 200 MB Web feature that can be added to any device."
Source: http://www.tmonews.com/2010/11/t-mobile-adding-data-plan-to-new-data-lineup/
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If you're trying to avoid getting the unlimited plan by pretending you're still using your G1, it won't work. They have a database of all the IMEI #s and the IMEI of the phone you're using gets transmitted, so they can see what you're using.
Back on AT&T, I bought a used iPhone (original model) and spoofed the IMEI to avoid having to pay for the iPhone data plan. Not sure if you can do this on Android.
You can see what I'm talking about by going to your T-Mobile account online and somewhere it should say which phone you're using. If you switch to another T-Mobile phone, it'll change. Carriers only have the IMEI #s of the phones that are branded by them. So if you put your T-Mobile SIM in an AT&T or unlocked, unbranded phone, it wouldn't show that phone under your account.
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Not that it matters (see my previous post), but even when they detect someone switches phones, can they really just alter your data plan without asking your permission?
The way AT&T did it, they would send you an automated text first a number of times. Then they'd add it. If it's stated in the TOS then they can do it. See if you can call them up and find a nice rep who'll try and keep it for you though.
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ArcticWolf91 said:
Can they really just alter your data plan without asking your permission?
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No -- they just disable access to Internet but still charge you for the plan.
ArcticWolf91 said:
Yeah but I'm using a G1, so I can just use that to get the new data plan, then I will buy the MyTouch 4G off-contract and swap the sim.
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Until tmo recognizes that you are on a mt4g...then they will require the correct plan. Not to mention what you proposed was at the very least dishonest
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Just answer the question
Can someone just answer his question without requiring his motives?
There's other people with legitimate reasons to do the same. What if you are in an area that has bad data reception? What if you wanted to use navigation outside of the city?
There's been plenty of times that I couldn't use Navi because of poor reception.
Use the navigon app it is now downloadable from the market. Maps are stored on the phone.
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I've tried searching, but couldn't find an answer, so here goes:
Has anyone tried using their Inspire on AT&T's go phone prepaid service? I went into the AT&T store and noticed that they now have an android phone for their go phone service. I've tried a prepaid sim and it works (though it only has talk and text), but would the $50 unlimited talk, text, and web work for us?
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I've tried searching, but couldn't find an answer, so here goes:
Has anyone tried using their Inspire on AT&T's go phone prepaid service? I went into the AT&T store and noticed that they now have an android phone for their go phone service. I've tried a prepaid sim and it works (though it only has talk and text), but would the $50 unlimited talk, text, and web work for us?
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No you still have to get a data plan.
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I've tried searching, but couldn't find an answer, so here goes:
Has anyone tried using their Inspire on AT&T's go phone prepaid service? I went into the AT&T store and noticed that they now have an android phone for their go phone service. I've tried a prepaid sim and it works (though it only has talk and text), but would the $50 unlimited talk, text, and web work for us?
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Where I live there is a prepaid dealer that has prepaid plans for all major service providers att has one called O2 it uses the same towers as att and works with all att cellphones for 60 a month you get unlimited talk text and web and it uses att 3G
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I've tried searching, but couldn't find an answer, so here goes:
Has anyone tried using their Inspire on AT&T's go phone prepaid service? I went into the AT&T store and noticed that they now have an android phone for their go phone service. I've tried a prepaid sim and it works (though it only has talk and text), but would the $50 unlimited talk, text, and web work for us?
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For smartphone users, the data is not included, just the unlimited calling and texting. You must purchase the data seperately and the plans are not so good. $5 for 10mb, $15 for 100mb, $25 for 500mb.
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just get straight talk 45 a month
No you cant use unlimited data on. You have to buy data package. 500MB ~ 25$.
So if you have 50$ unlimited just for minutes and sms. I tried to do that but it's not working. More, you have to change APN in order to use data.
daddioj said:
just get straight talk 45 a month
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isn't straight talk cdma?
gcihlar said:
isn't straight talk cdma?
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Straight Talk has both GSM (ATT) and CDMA (verizon) phones. And you can't use an unlocked inspire with them anymore. The only way to do it before was to buy the $200 nokia phone. The rest of straight talk's gsm phones had sim cards locked to the phones. The nokia did not. But now even the nokia phones lock their sim chips to the phone. And even those with older unlocked sims are being caught by straight talk and having their accounts closed.
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Straight Talk has both GSM (ATT) and CDMA (verizon) phones. And you can't use an unlocked inspire with them anymore. The only way to do it before was to buy the $200 nokia phone. The rest of straight talk's gsm phones had sim cards locked to the phones. The nokia did not. But now even the nokia phones lock their sim chips to the phone. And even those with older unlocked sims are being caught by straight talk and having their accounts closed.
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i actually just recently did the straight talk nokia phone to inspire. and i have no issues. i just hope they dont suspend me. but the sim was not locked to my phone or anything
I was thinking of doing the same thing myself. But I did some researching on the internet. Hopefully it holds out for you. Let us know if you have any issues down the road.
I'm using my unlock inspire 4g with prepaid service. No problem its working. I don't have data plan I always use wifi.
How did you get the inspire 4g to read the go phone? Because it's not getting any signal from mine. There will be an X over the signal bars. I already unloked the phone.
I have the go phone thing haha it sucks all I have is unlimited txtn it works for me no joke and miui is great cause the option to still connect when data is disabled so no worry about connecting to the internet
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How did you get it working?
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How did you get it working?
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I already replied in the thread you made. Att has started locking prepaid sim cards to the phone they are activated on for 6 months. Call them and tell them your swapping phones. They will unlock it but it relock to the inspire. Older sim cards didn't do this
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I already replied in the thread you made. Att has started locking prepaid sim cards to the phone they are activated on for 6 months. Call them and tell them your swapping phones. They will unlock it but it relock to the inspire. Older sim cards didn't do this
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I am sorry I didn't see and thank you for your help
Infuse owner here asking this for a friend. Can a inspire be unlocked to work with a att gophone simcard? If so are there any data limitations? Thanks
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Did some research and it appears it will work but inorder to have data ill have to root it, and its only on edge. So after I root it what do I have to do next?
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I don't have exact answers per se, but as an AT&T Mobility employee I have some advice and some warnings.
Advice: It would be much better to get a "4G" SIM instead of the GoPhone one, just in case this causes any issues.
When you go activate the SIM, take another, non-smartphone, phone with you and say that that's what you will use. We will put the non-smartphone IMEI in the system and it will allow you to get the $50 unlimited talk,text, and web.
Once you have the "4G" SIM activated, and the non-smartphone IMEI registered, put the SIM in the Inspire. Now, the seemingly difficult part.
Warning: You MUST find the APN settings for our feature phones somewhere, if you can't, I will try to find them for you. The reasoning behind this is that more then likely the "web" included on the $50 package is only one the feature phone APN, instead of the smartphone one.
Secondly, don't be surprised if one day you stop having internet connectivity. As we do with our postpaid customers, we also have a system for prepaid that sweeps every IMEI used and applies (or in your case, removes) the appropriate data packages.
I know that our prepaid data packages are a ripoff, but this is one way to do it, if only temporarily.
P.S. Where did you hear it would only be EDGE? That seems incorrect to me.
Bronk93 said:
Did some research and it appears it will work but inorder to have data ill have to root it, and its only on edge. So after I root it what do I have to do next?
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Look up H2O its a prepaid service that uses at&t towers and band so you don't have to unlock the phone and its 60$ a month for unlimited talk text and web
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Bronk93 said:
Did some research and it appears it will work but inorder to have data ill have to root it, and its only on edge. So after I root it what do I have to do next?
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The inspire will work ina go phone similar card as it is what I run mine one. Data speeds are the same but cost more in the long run.
danielsaenz said:
I don't have exact answers per se, but as an AT&T Mobility employee I have some advice and some warnings.
Advice: It would be much better to get a "4G" SIM instead of the GoPhone one, just in case this causes any issues.
When you go activate the SIM, take another, non-smartphone, phone with you and say that that's what you will use. We will put the non-smartphone IMEI in the system and it will allow you to get the $50 unlimited talk,text, and web.
Once you have the "4G" SIM activated, and the non-smartphone IMEI registered, put the SIM in the Inspire. Now, the seemingly difficult part.
Warning: You MUST find the APN settings for our feature phones somewhere, if you can't, I will try to find them for you. The reasoning behind this is that more then likely the "web" included on the $50 package is only one the feature phone APN, instead of the smartphone one.
Secondly, don't be surprised if one day you stop having internet connectivity. As we do with our postpaid customers, we also have a system for prepaid that sweeps every IMEI used and applies (or in your case, removes) the appropriate data packages.
I know that our prepaid data packages are a ripoff, but this is one way to do it, if only temporarily.
P.S. Where did you hear it would only be EDGE? That seems incorrect to me.
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So if I am understanding this right, the phone must be rooted, and the APN needs to be changed to reflect a featured phone data plan instead of the smartphone data plan that the droid is expecting to use. Along with using a 4G simcard, that should be it right? The apn settings are all over the internet, i just read them, its like wap.cingular.com or something, but whats this sweeping system you speak of, does it compare the sim card over the air to the imei its 'registered with' opposed to the imei of the phone its installed in?
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So if I am understanding this right, the phone must be rooted, and the APN needs to be changed to reflect a featured phone data plan instead of the smartphone data plan that the droid is expecting to use. Along with using a 4G simcard, that should be it right? The apn settings are all over the internet, i just read them, its like wap.cingular.com or something, but whats this sweeping system you speak of, does it compare the sim card over the air to the imei its 'registered with' opposed to the imei of the phone its installed in?
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It will work just fine stock. I have been running prepaid for awhile now and have not had a single issue. The apns will set on their own to the proper ones once you insert your similar card.
And they are right att dies sweep the IMEI but it doesn't matter as I gave reps my IMEI when I got the inspire and swapped my account from my old captivate. Also I font use a data plan as I am normally around wifi at all times. The only backdraw is if you have less then $5 on your account the data won't connect. ATT can't stop you from having any phone you want on prepaid. They tried with the IPhone and a lawsuite ended that.
go with h20..no contract means no problem
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jmollabi said:
go with h20..no contract means no problem
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Except, data speeds are kinda slow and the "Unlimited Data" on the $60/Mo plan is actually capped at 3GB..
so what happens after you reach the "cap"
Bronk93 said:
Infuse owner here asking this for a friend. Can a inspire be unlocked to work with a att gophone simcard? If so are there any data limitations? Thanks
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Im actually using an Inspire via GoPhone. I have been for a few months. I just went to a local att store and simply bought a simcard, some airtime, and activated that sim card, popped it in and voila! I dont recommend buying a cheap GoPhone and using the sim out of that because recently, att decide to start locking the sim that comes with that phone to that specific phone. I made that mistake the first time and found it out the hard way.
I only have the $25/mo plan and i buy a $25 data package when needed. I dont use a lot of data, since I have wifi available most of the time.
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Works good with prepaid just had to put apn in manually to get data working other than that perfect .
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Bronk93 said:
Did some research and it appears it will work but inorder to have data ill have to root it, and its only on edge. So after I root it what do I have to do next?
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You did horrible research.
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Hi
I juat want to know this
My gf its on att, and she wants a android phone. But she has a normal plan. If i buy her a new android phone. Will att charge her for a smarphone plan? Or will she be able to keep her normal voice and data plan. I know in tmobile you can keep eany plan you have if you buy the phone. Eany help?
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what do you mean by normal plan? i think this is how it works
1. you get her a at&t branded smartphone (one they sell), they will detect it and require you to have a smartphone data plan. starting at $15
2. you get her a non-at&t branded smartphone, they dont know what it is, so if you have no plan or have medianet plan ($10 or 15 i forget, dumbphone data plan), she keeps her current plan
i read many times that people use a unbranded smartphone with the medianet plan. me, i cant afford data so ive been using unbranded smartphones without data plan for 3 years
It really depends on what data plan she is on right now. If it's a basic phone data plan, they will make her switch to a smartphone data plan. Those are $15 for 200MB, $25 for 2GB, and $45 for 4GB. If she has an unlimited data plan, she might be able to have it grandfathered in. Those are the only changes you should see.
Im sorry she only has voice and text. But that answered my question. If she gets an att phone they will make her get data. And she cant pay it. I gues ill get her a tmo phone.
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No. You need to get an UNBRANDED international phone to be completely safe.
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im a noob in this men
What do you mean with unbranded?
ahhh i got my answer reading in the forums
Aparently i can use eany other carier phone and it will not be detected cause the data radios and frequency arent the same. they told me i should not have eany problems with them changing my plan. thanks for all your help guys
Buy from Amazon, BestBuy, etc. I mean, don't buy with the carrier.
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I want to use my HOX without the SIM, because I can't afford the data plan anymore. Is there a way for me to forward things (like calls, SMS, etc.) from my non-smartphone to my HOX?
Currently running the latest ViperXL rom.
Nope
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WiFi plus google voice and another app will give you sms and calling and voicemail when connected to WiFi. Cut down the normal sim and get the other useless phone out of the equation
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954wrecker said:
WiFi plus google voice and another app will give you sms and calling and voicemail when connected to WiFi. Cut down the normal sim and get the other useless phone out of the equation
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Most carriers pay attention to what phone you have and let you know that they will adjust your plan according to the phone, so putting this sim in then phone is going to increase his bill
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I didn't know calling and texting had different rates based on the phone. I thought his data was turned off or getting shut off soon
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954wrecker said:
I didn't know calling and texting had different rates based on the phone. I thought his data was turned off
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Well they don't but with a smart phone most carriers require you have a data plan, they see your new phone and force the data plan on you
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Disregard my advice I'm on T-Mobile prepaid for the past ten years so I'm not familiar with other companies with different policies.
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superchilpil said:
Well they don't but with a smart phone most carriers require you have a data plan, they see your new phone and force the data plan on you
I got a new SIM and put it into a non-smartphone so that they won't charge me for internet. I want to forward from a non-smartphone to a smartphone.
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RokoLeonhart said:
superchilpil said:
Well they don't but with a smart phone most carriers require you have a data plan, they see your new phone and force the data plan on you
I got a new SIM and put it into a non-smartphone so that they won't charge me for internet. I want to forward from a non-smartphone to a smartphone.
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I understand that but if that smartphone doesn't have any service you can't forward calls/texts
My suggestion is to either get a prepaid plan that works with your needs for this phone and get rid of the dumb phone or get a regular plan like everyone else
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Maybe a few details about the carrier and the plan will allow someone to assist you.
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954wrecker said:
Maybe a few details about the carrier and the plan will allow someone to assist you.
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I got my HOX through AT&T in the Summer, but the price for the mobile network (which I never use due to its cap) is too much. I am part of a family plan, and it would be considerately more costly if I left it before my contracts were up.
RokoLeonhart said:
I got my HOX through AT&T in the Summer, but the price for the mobile network (which I never use due to its cap) is too much. I am part of a family plan, and it would be considerately more costly if I left it before my contracts were up.
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Guess you'll just have to keep paying for that dataplan then huh.
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Guess you'll just have to keep paying for that dataplan then huh.
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Nah. I think I'd rather carry both phones around. It's about half the price like this.
So they will allow you to drop the data but they won't let you use the hox without data?
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So they will allow you to drop the data but they won't let you use the hox without data?
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AT&T will automatically add a data plan to your contract if you are using any smartphone. The rates are terrible ($20 for less than 1Gb) and once the limit is reached, they charge you again instead of stopping the service.
Sorry to hear that. Must be how they can afford to give away $500 phones for next to nothing.
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just put the phone on straight talk .. 45 a month 48.15 after tax