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Hey guys, i have an inspire, i was wondering if i activitated an old att basic messaging phone unlimited data plan, would it work with my inspire? And would it provide mr with the same speeds?
Thanks!
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Are you a new customer? Or are you conming from a previous smartphone like an iPhone?
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I have the same question.
I just bought an Inspire for a dumphone line that didn't have the $10 unltd data. So I guess there's no way around this line since I already bought it? I bought it at full retail no commitment. We still have the original device.
But we also have 2 other dumbphone's in the family plan that are ready for smartphones. They don't have $10 unltd data. If I got the $10 unltd on each now and in about a month(when we are ready to buy smartphones) can we get untld data on the 2 new smartphones?

you can try, but it wont work because as soon as the IMEI of the inspire registers with the network, the auto sweep tool bumps your line to the proper smartphone data plan.
but i would definitely give it a shot. however note that you dont want to lsoe your grandfathered unlimited data plan if that is what you have, and once you get bumped it might be impossible to get it back.
the best choice, which is how people avoid this, is to only use non-ATT phones that they dont know or consider smartphones. but the inspire will get detected guaranteed immediately.

RogerPodacter said:
you can try, but it wont work because as soon as the IMEI of the inspire registers with the network, the auto sweep tool bumps your line to the proper smartphone data plan.
but i would definitely give it a shot. however note that you dont want to lsoe your grandfathered unlimited data plan if that is what you have, and once you get bumped it might be impossible to get it back.
the best choice, which is how people avoid this, is to only use non-ATT phones that they dont know or consider smartphones. but the inspire will get detected guaranteed immediately.
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This is my situation;
1 iPhone unltd data(grandfathered)
2 dumbphones with no data(messaging phones)
1 recently bought Inspire with 2gb data plan
My question is about the 2 messaging dumbphones. They currently have no data. The 2 want smartphones in about a month. If I get the $10 unltd data now on the 2 messaging dumbphones can I buy 2 unbranded smartphones and be able to get unltd 3G data? Do I need to get a $10 plan for each messaging phone prior to buying an unbranded phone?
I'm not going to mess with the iPhone 4 with grandfathered unltd data.

I have a Captivate with IP3G unltd. data and 2 regular lines on a family plan. I can't upgrade Captivate but use upgrade on 2 other lines. Can I order Inspire as an upgrade for a regular line and use it with my IP3G SIM from Captivate?

My experience with this:
I had a theory about iPhone 2G data plan trick and did my own spin on it. With my Inspire 4G activated and powered on, I put an old SIM card into an iPhone 2G and activated the iphone through iTunes. It let me switch to the iPhone 2G unlimited plan + 200 txt for $20, but the actual voice/data did not switch over to the iPhone because the SIM card is old/unprovisioned.
I don't know exactly why, but I've been on the unlimited 2g + 200 txt (no MMS of course) plan for three weeks now with no data plan bump. The AT&T account website recognizes the Inspire IMEI (displays the Inspire on my account). However, it will not let me remove the 2G plan and upgrade to the smartphone personal unlimited.

ATT has been really sketchy about this... all you have to do is call customer support or go into the store and say that your unlimited was removed without authorization.
I got mine back on. You will need it.
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JWGWulff said:
ATT has been really sketchy about this... all you have to do is call customer support or go into the store and say that your unlimited was removed without authorization.
I got mine back on. You will need it.
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I never had unltd data on the messaging phones. I know which unbranded phones I'm going to purchase in about a month.
What should I do to take adsvsndage of unltd data on the new unbranded smart phones I'm asking. Get the messaging phones on unltd data now or it doesn't matter?

[Q] NO data plan?

If i was to buy an Inspire from craigslist and pop my sim card in that has no data plan, would i stil be ablke to use the phone just without a data plan? thanks!

Probably, until att emails you and tells you they are going to upgrade you to a data plan when they do and imei check.

haha o man that will get me in trouble with the rents! haha, is there anyway i can be like no, you cannot do that, i didnt buy it from yall

Can't do that
ATT will detect which phone you are using and automatically add the data plan on.

i am currently using an iphone 3g for about a year now and they havent done that to me yet...before using the iphone however, my dad told them to cut off any access or ability for me to use data. is that why they havent made me add on a plan?

ThroughHymn said:
i am currently using an iphone 3g for about a year now and they havent done that to me yet...before using the iphone however, my dad told them to cut off any access or ability for me to use data. is that why they havent made me add on a plan?
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Its possible you have a old smartphone opt out feature on your account. This was added for people that had a smartphone b4 data was a requirement and had to be grandfathered in.
I was under the impression that the iPhone overrode this but i could be wrong
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ThroughHymn said:
If i was to buy an Inspire from craigslist and pop my sim card in that has no data plan, would i stil be ablke to use the phone just without a data plan? thanks!
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I've recently updated to the inspire from an original unlocked iphone 2g. I've been using it without a data plan for the past 3 years. At the start, they used to send me text messages about not having a data plan. That lasted about a month or two when I originally bought the phone. And I never heard another thing about it since then.
One little note I found in the contract of the new agreement. It states that "You realize that your smartphone requires a data plan, and if detected you allow AT&T to add the according data plan to your contract." I'm not really happy about that because I did infact not want to keep the data plan. To me it's a waste of money as I live in Philly and wi-fi is everywhere which is faster.
Anyways. I say that if you buy the phone from craigslist and pop in your old sim card, there is nothing AT&T can do. You didn't sign a new contract that has those agreements within. Therefore that can't just turn a data plan on for you if you didn't sign that contract/agreement.
So my answer from experience is that without a doubt you can use the phone bought from craigslist without a data plan. And provided that agreement isn't in your contract, AT&T cannot just turn on the data plan without you knowing.

I bought a capitvate off of ebay 6 months ago and put my sim card in without a data plan, and a month ago I bought an inspire and att has never sent me a message or nothing.

ooo ok i see, thakns guys! now ill just need to generate some money to go buy one! haha

If you unlock it, AT&T can't tell what phone you are using.....
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Anyone w/ an Infuse + grandfather data?

My mother got and Infuse yesterday and i was over at her house playing with it with my sim in. after i was done i took my sim out and put it back in my fuze (shudder). this morning just as i was leaving the house for the day i got a text message from AT&T telling me that "An eligible data plan is required for your 4g Smartphone. We have added an appropriate data plan. Learn more at att.com/smartphoneplans."
so i disabled data and when i went into my acct on the web when i got home, sure enough the only data feature options i could choose were the new tiered data plans. i had to put my sim in my old ooooooold tmobile MDA for an hour or so until it updated the imei and then i could go back and choose the unlimited data option.
is this normal? if i upgrade to an infuse will that cancel my grandfather'd status? has anyone else grandfather'd updated and kept their data plan? if so how? and if i upgrade through best buy or amazon at the discounted price will i be allowed to keep it or do i have to go to an att store and pay the full upgrade price?

This has happened to a few people on the forums (lost the unlimited when it switched them to 4g) but it shouldn't. Call 611 or go into a store and they can fix it for you. You can have unlimited 4g with you grandfathered plan its just apparently sometimes putting people back to the 2gb.

I was able to keep my unlimited..
sent from Infuse but miss my captivate on cont. 5.5.... One day this can be as good...

They make it a hassle, but you can keep your unlimited data.
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I got the Inuse at Best Buy and they let me keep my unlimited data without any issues. Before that I had bought the Atrix at Best Buy and had no problems either. The rep just said he was going to switch me to unlimited 4G cause the 4G plan is a bit different.

thanks all of you

the issue that occured is that our at&t systems have different classification data plans.
ie: one for blackberries, one for general smartphones (android/palm/symbian/winmo ect), iphone, and hspa+ devices. the fuse is a general classification smartphone so the message was saying that when you put your sim card in the infuse as it is a hspa+ phone, your data might not work correctly, hence the text message to change your data plan. if you go into a cor store, any rep should be able to continue your grandfathered unlimited status.

No issues here, I still have my unlimited plan...
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If they try to do that, call customer care, let them know you have grandfathered unlimited data, they will file a case to change it back. They "accidentally" did that when they provisioned our sim cards for 4g when my wife and I got our Inspire's...

Hell yeah if they remove it I woukd transfer my four family plan to Sprint, now sprint has the same customer service as verizon up date according to recent survey.
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When you call ATT tell them it's called SmartPhone Personal.

Tell them you want to keep the unlimoted plan. Some reps may say you can't but you Can. Dont ttake no for an answer.
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I'm a Rep with att. Just shoot to a store and do it. We are MORE than happy to switch you to the unlimited HSPA+ PLAN because its more commission for us. I switch it all the time!
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Ok so i duno if im getting the rite plan now. Looked online and im getting Smart unlimited..$30 .. But under that u can choose something with 4g.. Also when i click on smart unlimited this windows pops up. Whats "gold list"

It was no hassle keeping my unlimited plan. She asked and I said I wanted to keep it. Done deal.
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bullet358 said:
I'm a Rep with att. Just shoot to a store and do it. We are MORE than happy to switch you to the unlimited HSPA+ PLAN because its more commission for us. I switch it all the time!
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It still possible to get an unlimited plan even if you weren't grandfather by iphone or something? I only had the option for 200mb for $15 or the 2gb for $25 and no option for unlimited.

bullet358 said:
I'm a Rep with att. Just shoot to a store and do it. We are MORE than happy to switch you to the unlimited HSPA+ PLAN because its more commission for us. I switch it all the time!
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ok, i have a question for you, i'm planing on getting an infuse on upgrade, selling that and getting a gs2. if i go back to the $30 unlimited plan when i upgrade after getting the gs2 would i be able to switch back to the cheaper unrecognized imei data plan that i'm on now?

if YOU don't choose to change to another plan, you stay grandfathered. I am still unlimited. If you choose to go to another plan because its cheaper and later decide to use tons of data, you cant go back. If your plan was automatically changed, let CS know. they have the ability to override and re-authorize unlimited.

If they switch me to the H+ unlimited from regular old unlimited will I be able to still use my sim in my HD2? Thanks!
Also has anyone bought from Amazon. How did you go about keeping your unlimited? Just sign up for one of the available plans and then call and have it switched back?

Grandafthered plan
I have grandfathered $30 real unlimited on infuse - only thing changed is 4G addition to it. I understand that they need to classify plans somehow but i do not believe that 4G changes anything related to connection speed. I live in Portland,OR area and eventhough ATT coverage is good localy there are still no real 4G speeds. I tried Inspire, Atrix and now Infuse and none of them went over 2.5Mbps download and 0.5Mbps upload -EVER.
All their bogus stories about 4G cards and 4G dataplans are fairytales --- GSM phone needs provisioned (active) SIM Card of any type, proper APN setup, and reciever able to decode given 3G /4G frequency bands. With such combination you can connect to any GSM network (provided roaming is enabled too). So you can switch SIM cards from phone to phone regardless of data plan in their system.
I was landing on PDX airport in 2009 from Frankfurt, had my N95 with Vodafone prepaid SIM in it and as soon as I turned it on, it autoconfigured and locked to Tmobile 3G network as I still had some money on it to use data and calls. I was also using one ATT SIM card with same data plan (switching to and from ) Iphone3Gs, HTC Touch Pro2, Nokia N97 and unlocked Motorola Defy. Never had single issue...
On the other hand, after being AT&T, Cingular, at&t customer for 10+ years, I am starting to wonder is their service generally worth the money I pay every month.
My bill is for 4 phones;
unlimited family text,
1400min,
real unlimited data plan for Infuse,
real unlimited data plan for Iphone,
2 unlimited data for non smartphones for kids ($10 each)
Total: ~$220 every month....
I was recently looking into Virgin Mobile plans and they give $40 unlimited calls, messages and data. For $25 you get unlimited calls, messages and 20 megs of data (for kids...and my kids use barely any data)
Now that would cut my phone bill about ~$100/month ($1200/year)
Problem is that my dear wife would let go of the Iphone only from her dead cold hands...and she is using it like it is Apache server ~ 10Gig/month
I know I am going off topic but regardless grandfathered or not, my data plan on ATT costs only $10 less then all unlimited package on Virgin mobile.
I am aware that they do not have fancy phones as ATT but honestly ATT does not have a near selection of good phones as Verizon or T-mobile...and lesser data speeds too.
Now I wanted some opinions on my thoughts to switch carriers (and just to let you know I never used anything but GSM since i got my first cell phone in 1993 in Hamburg Germany where I am originally from)

verizon no data plan

My brother in law wants to get a smart phone that he can simply use over wifi and he doesn't want to get a data plan. He has verizon and from what I've been seeing online is that verizon forces you to have a data plan since 2008 on verizon branded phones.
Is that really true?
I have ATT and gave my dad an android and just turned off the 3g so he can only use wifi. I guess obviously its easy on this network cause you can just swap a sim card.
Does he have any options at all if he wants to get a phone but no contract?

Tmobile does not force a data plan when you swap SIMs to a smartphone, but Verizon and Sprint are CDMA so you have to activate the phone, in which they will figure out its a smartphone.
AT&T started forcing data plans a couple years ago (or sometime before this year ). Even if you turned off 3G on that phone they will discover its IMEI and it will be a smartphone IMEI so they will force a data plan. So even that AT&T trick won't work, they usually give you a text saying a data plan has been "added" to your account.
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gagdude said:
Tmobile does not force a data plan when you swap SIMs to a smartphone, but Verizon and Sprint are CDMA so you have to activate the phone, in which they will figure out its a smartphone.
AT&T started forcing data plans a couple years ago (or sometime before this year ). Even if you turned off 3G on that phone they will discover its IMEI and it will be a smartphone IMEI so they will force a data plan. So even that AT&T trick won't work, they usually give you a text saying a data plan has been "added" to your account.
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FML you're right ATT recently caught on and put a 2gb plan on my dads account instead of a 200mb. those bastards. This is so outrageous that they do this. That would be like the cable companies charging you extra to use your own tivo, say assuming you already owned your own cable card etc.
I'm extremely outraged by this

RobbieRobski said:
FML you're right ATT recently caught on and put a 2gb plan on my dads account instead of a 200mb. those bastards. This is so outrageous that they do this. That would be like the cable companies charging you extra to use your own tivo, say assuming you already owned your own cable card etc.
I'm extremely outraged by this
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Ouch, you can call to remove it but then they tell you to stop using the smartphone.
If you really don't want a data plan, Tmobile still doesn't force a plan, if he'd willing to bear with the lesser coverage and quality
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I am so glad that our big 3 here doesn't force data plans.
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RobbieRobski said:
FML you're right ATT recently caught on and put a 2gb plan on my dads account instead of a 200mb. those bastards. This is so outrageous that they do this. That would be like the cable companies charging you extra to use your own tivo, say assuming you already owned your own cable card etc.
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Before I had a smartphone (on ATT), I had an unlimited data plan on my non-smart phone. It was grandfathered in to my account when ATT did away with the unlimited plans. Unfortunately, when I finally did get a smartphone, they "upgraded" me to a 2GB data plan because the unlimited plans are now only for non-smart phones. They suck, but they have the best coverage in my area, so I'm limited in my options.

Okay, so totally somewhat related question. Is 2gb/mo enough data? I mean, if you have auto-sync on, logged into facebook, twitter, instagram, and also using tapatalk. 'Cause he we have like subscriptions for how much data you want. Like 100mb for a dollar and you could use it up to for a month, then it will expire. I just can't het my head around the actual data android consumes.
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[Q] Keeping my unlimited data

While I dont have high hopes I thought I would ask anyways based on some of the stuff I have read.
The situation:
My line is due for an upgrade today in which I obviously want to get the S3. Currently I have the unlimited plan. My sister who is on the family plan also has the unlimited plan.
The plan:
What I would like to do is use her line to 'borrow' the upgrade from me and get the s3 after which I would transfer the phone back to my line. Because it was not my line upgrading would I still lose my unlimited? Would she?
Another question is that we also have a phone with the 150mb data plan. Could I use this line to 'borrow' the upgrade as that line would be at no risk of losing the unlimited data plan? Does verizon still offer the 150mb plan or would that line then be forced to a $30 plan?

Borrowing your sisters upgrade would make her lose her unlimited data unless you bought the phone at full price. Using your 150mb data phone they'd most likely put you into the 2gb plan on that phone but using it would allow you to get the S3 and keep your unlimited data plan.

You can always just buy the phone full price and not use an upgrade and then you would be able to keep unlimited data.

Yup knew about that. Was just trying to find a way to get the subsidized while keeping it. I will probably just end up going down to the 2gb as I connect to wireless at home and work anyways
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This is how I pulled off keeping my unlimited data. My grandmother still had an analog phone (flip phone with no data). I made them use her upgrade to a smart phone and receive 2GB data on her own (without that shared data plan). I then switched phones and put her back on her old phone and it canceled her data package in term means she didnt have to pay for any plan and I have my S3 with unlimited data.

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This is how I pulled off keeping my unlimited data. My grandmother still had an analog phone (flip phone with no data). I made them use her upgrade to a smart phone and receive 2GB data on her own (without that shared data plan). I then switched phones and put her back on her old phone and it canceled her data package in term means she didnt have to pay for any plan and I have my S3 with unlimited data.
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Would this work since I'm the only one with the upgrade? For instance upgrade my moms phone (small data plan) with mine then transfer lines back
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I just did this and I lost my unlimited data. Was told customer provided equipment you can keep the plan, anything bought from Verizon (upgrade or not) will require a plan change now.
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I just did this and I lost my unlimited data. Was told customer provided equipment you can keep the plan, anything bought from Verizon (upgrade or not) will require a plan change now.
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This should not have happened. Once a phone is activated on another line you can transfer it to an unlimited plan. If you transferred someone else's upgrade to your line and upgraded yourself then you can't keep unlimited.

I wish I had read this thread first, sad thing is not only did I loose my data they switched me to a share everything plan for an extra $40/mo
Good news is my wife can talk all day long instead of waiting until 7

I just bought mine rhrougu telesales I got them to give me a 90 dollar credit on my plan and I bought the phone out right and I repeated over and over this won't change my plan right and it didn't
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Sccrluk9 said:
Would this work since I'm the only one with the upgrade? For instance upgrade my moms phone (small data plan) with mine then transfer lines back
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In theory it should. The only issue you may run into is if you both are on the same account, Verizon may try to bump you and your mom both on a single data plan instead of activating her on a small data plan.

My local Verizon Wireless guy pulled some sort trick on their system. He originally told me that I was going to have to upgrade and lose my unlimited or buy the phone for full price. While I was deciding what to do, he was working on his computer and then after I decided I'd settle for the upgrade and loss of my grandfather plan, he scanned my phone in and told me that I still had my unlimited. He somehow made it look like my mother upgraded her phone to a GS3, while I bought the phone she had or something, or he transferred the unlimited plan to her number temporarily. Either way, all I know, is that there is a way for them to play with the accounts and let you upgrade and keep your unlimited plan; you just have to have a nice competent dealer who wants to help.

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This is how I pulled off keeping my unlimited data. My grandmother still had an analog phone (flip phone with no data). I made them use her upgrade to a smart phone and receive 2GB data on her own (without that shared data plan). I then switched phones and put her back on her old phone and it canceled her data package in term means she didnt have to pay for any plan and I have my S3 with unlimited data.
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This is kind of what i did also. I had no upgrade, rep had me add a line, then transfer the number to an old flipper i had removing the data package. Then moved the s3 to my thunderbolt line. Kept unlimited data for the cost of $10 for the flipper.
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bill3508 said:
This is kind of what i did also. I had no upgrade, rep had me add a line, then transfer the number to an old flipper i had removing the data package. Then moved the s3 to my thunderbolt line. Kept unlimited data for the cost of $10 for the flipper.
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Theres a lot of work arounds I found out in Verizons system with data lol. The best part...is i still have my upgrade