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I am finally using the Transformer on vacation and the browser is erroring with a "force restart" message. Can be using 2-4hrs and message pops up. Not very nice.
On the latest build. What gives..Is this to be expected on Ver3.2?
Now i will say this...My wife's iPad has never done this..would hate to buy Apple but you cannot fault a Apple not working 99.9%..100% if flash gets loaded and with Steve Jobs gone this will happen.
use dolphin hd tablet.
Use opera browser, I think it's the best browser for the TF ATM, dolphin HD is good also but it's slower and laggier then opera for me...
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I don't have any problems with the stock browser FC and my wife doesn't have an iPad so maybe that's the Problem?
mikelt89 said:
Use opera browser, I think it's the best browser for the TF ATM, dolphin HD is good also but it's slower and laggier then opera for me...
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Ok and installed. Let's see how this behaves.
Some quick comments:
1. Open web sites at first are slower..about 10secs more then stock browser
2. Flash is work fine
3. Pages are scrolling smoother then stock browser
More to come...
To the OP, android did not just come out yesterday. If you really hate android stock browser before trying out other alternatives, you should get yourself an ipad.
I've actually seen people complain about the black area around the screen on the iconia and transformer. I told those people to get an ipad because [sarcasm] the ipad has no black area around its screen at all[/sarcasm].
I have the same problems with the latest version
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goodintentions said:
To the OP, android did not just come out yesterday. If you really hate android stock browser before trying out other alternatives, you should get yourself an ipad.
I've actually seen people complain about the black area around the screen on the iconia and transformer. I told those people to get an ipad because [sarcasm] the ipad has no black area around its screen at all[/sarcasm].
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I stated that the stock browser after 2-5hrs of use gives a "force restart" pop-up message. I am using a "stock" unit with the lastest firmware. I am trying another browser to see if it works without crashing. Again, since I do have a iPad 1 I can compare on the user experience. Android has some work to do on there platform...FACT
OP:
1. Flash is not 100% working on FP sites...this is noted from OP whitepaper
2. Using 3hrs and no crash message at this time..I use around 8 tabs in the browser.
3. Screen sizing is not as good as stock browser....OP resizing back and forth.
4. There is a lag from the keybard when typing..OS issue as this happens in any app.
Trying flash on both browsers. Flash does not work well on 360 views. It tries but then page displays "stop" symbol then site tab removes itself. Nice..
Site is landrover.com
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I stated that the stock browser after 2-5hrs of use gives a "force restart" pop-up message. I am using a "stock" unit with the lastest firmware. I am trying another browser to see if it works without crashing. Again, since I do have a iPad 1 I can compare on the user experience. Android has some work to do on there platform...FACT
OP:
1. Flash is not 100% working on FP sites...this is noted from OP whitepaper
2. Using 3hrs and no crash message at this time..I use around 8 tabs in the browser.
3. Screen sizing is not as good as stock browser....OP resizing back and forth.
4. There is a lag from the keybard when typing..OS issue as this happens in any app.
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Everything needs work. Thats why we have alternatives like firefox or opera. If you want everything to work exactly perfectly on stock you should stick with the ipad.
1, 3, and 4 are not true. Opera and firefox do not lag at all. This is not an os issue. Its software compatibility with the website issue.
Again, thats why we have free alternatives.
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Everything needs work. Thats why we have alternatives like firefox or opera. If you want everything to work exactly perfectly on stock you should stick with the ipad.
1, 3, and 4 are not true. Opera and firefox do not lag at all. This is not an os issue. Its software compatibility with the website issue.
Again, thats why we have free alternatives.
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Flash is spotty on sites..as GM, Shopnbc.tv just to name a few. Basically the tablet is just not as good as a Laptop..The tablet is not 100% ready for Primetime...Apple still has the support of the business and OS..while no tablet at this time can replace a Laptop..I still will support my TF...BUT that's why use a Alienware M11x...light and ultra fast and works 100%..
I just uninstall OP.....going to test Dolphin Browser HD
Just one more note on OP:
When streaming video, the video remains playing as in Standard Browser or Dolphin this pauses the stream when switching to other tabs. This is very nice as with me having 8 or 9 tabs going at a time I can have streaming music in the background.
Now..Dolphin was able to work a little better for flash at landrover.com, Shopnbctv worked 100%. This app has a lot of setup options....
Since last firmware upgrade I noticed frequent browser crashes to the homescreen.
Suddenly the browser window disppears, and I am back at the homescreen, without the browser window I was watching being saved - when I restart the browser I am back at my starting page.
Did not find any solution!
^x2 same problems
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^x2 same problems
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Back using OP...why....it works.
I was in the middle of placing a order with Stock Browser and got a "force start" message. Luckily i quickly loaded OP and completed my watch order...Shopnbc.com
This "bug" needs to be addressed by Google...I was going to grab the wifes iPad as this purchase needed to go thru....but OP came thru...
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^x2 same problems
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Me to. Sometimes more frequent then others.
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the browser is erroring with a "force restart" message. Can be using 2-4hrs and message pops up. Not very nice.
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My browser under 3.2 rebooted spontaneously one time. Other than that, I love it. Flash works smoothly, pages render fast enough, and the menu list when you touch the extreme right edge is fabulous.
I'm playing around too. When I first got 3.2 I though the browser was better. Now it seems to crash all the time. I've been using OP and it works pretty well. The sizing issues are annoying, but it works.
Hopefully, Google will get this fixed. The browser on my Vibrant (Froyo) is rock solid.
I'll give Dolphin its shot too. I would be ok with a little slower if it was stable.
Glad to see I'm not the only one with this issue. I've had it happen multiple times right now - really pronounced on Amazon's site when browsing through items.
Also noticed that my "go back" button (the arrow, not the browser's actual back button) no longer functions as expected. I used to be able to hit that to go back to the previous page - now it takes several tries or me going to the top of the page and using the actual back button to go back. Anyone know of a fix? It's been a problem since the last OTA.
Hi guys,
I was wondering if you have this problem too - when I open any browser on my TF300t (on a fast wifi connection) the scrolling on the carousel view of the Google image search is slow and very choppy. I've tried this on my ipad and it is smooth like butter. It was this way on stock. I recently rooted/unlocked and put on ICS Hydro 3.5 and it is practically the same (maybe slightly faster).
I tried with 2D hardware on and off. I tried with Stock browser, Chrome, and Dolphin HD.
Any thoughts? Thanks in advance.
yep , same here . My daughters ipad flies on the same connection . To prevent people seeing how bad it is I just set it to be a desktop as default .
Quite embarrassing otherwise .
So embarrassing. I wonder what the cause is - hardware, software, etc. I mean using a Google made OS (android) and a Google made browser (chrome) for a Google image search site supposedly optimized for tablets, the Apple product shines where the Google product fails.
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What browser do you use and why?
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I keep switching between Boat, ICS+, Dolphin, Maxthon...
They all work and they all kind of suck too.
Maybe web browsing on android is just a pain in the butt.
It's the same on my wife's tablet...
Pick one...all the browsers freak out in varying degrees.
I realize this is a non-answer.
Good luck finding a smooth non crashing browser.
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I use the stock browser and it is pretty much faster after I install (Browser2ram) (( need root ))
I use boat that it's perfect and chrome only for Facebook full site.
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I've tried Chrome, Firefox Beta, Dolphin and ICS+ and went back to stock. As was previously said each one has its issues. Even on my HOX none of them works perfectly. When I set my CPU governor to Performance then the stock browser is as good if not better than the rest.
+1 for Boat - very fast, and very stable (I don't have *any* crashing issues with Boat). Still get the occasional web site that just doesn't work right, even with Boat, but it's the best I've found. Dolphin seems pretty good as well.
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Dolphin because of the Lastpass plugin. Can't live without Lastpass, but I am sure Dolphin as a browser isnt the best, I wish other browsers would add it.
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What browser do you use and why?
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I like ICS+. The quick controls are convenient, but the main reason i stick with it is when Google imported my hundreds of bookmarks into it, all of them were still organized into all the folders and subfolders i spent HOURS on reorganizing. All the other browsers i have tried so far, just dump them all in with no organization at all. Just 200 something bookmarks plopped at your feet.
FireFox seems to be getting better, too. It's out of beta stage now.
I'm using Chrome for syncing bookmarks / open tabs with my PC, but it can be done with FF as well now, I believe.
I like Dolphin. It had everything i need. Boat is great, but i keep going back to Dolphin.
I don't like apps spying on me, so I don't like these two, but we had a discussion on that already in the best apps sticky thread a while ago, and jtrosky will beat the hell out of me for spoiling browsing fun by saying this, so I need to keep quiet.
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I prefer Google Chrome, I just like the way it runs. Hasn't failed me yet!
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does firefox sync with your home PC favorites? tool bar favorites etc? is there an app that does this? browser app that is
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Firefox does have sync ability.
Chrome and Stock browser both sync to your desktop bookmarks.
Browsing on Infinity is one of the weakness and hope to be improved aspect. Some one in this thread mentioned possibility of all browser sucks on android, which is NOT true. I had different tablet and its browsing experience was superior to iPad 2 for its speed, stability.
Also there is this app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.h.chromemarks&hl=en, which allows you to launch any browser using chrome's bookmark.
Opera Mobile
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Everything looked rather tiny on the Infinity last time I checked.
Mibile Firefox
I like to:good::laugh: work with Firefox on my Asus Tf700T. It works great and fast
Actually, I got my Infinity in july and right now the web experience is the main drawback experience so far. The lag and crash of the launcher is far less annoying that the slowness and lag of the web browsing. I have tested nearly all browsers and none is giving me good experience :
- stock browser : miss some functionalities, slow and laggy
- chrome : my prefered as i'm sharing my bookmarks with my personal computer, work computer and iphone but too slow and laggy
- firefox : looks nice and is doing bookmarks sync (but firefox does not exist for my iPhone), still beta version that deals very badly with plugins. For example when a page needs a flash player then it will display an ugly inside-window with "click here to activate the plugin" and that inside-window prevent any fast web browsing.
- others (boat, dolphin, opera ...) : not impressed, all miss the sync of chrome bookmarks (needed to have my bookmarks sync on all my platforms)
My hope is that Jelly Bean/next version of chrome will improve the stability and swiftness of that browser as this is the only one that contains all the functionnalities i need.
hmm, I might wait for the asus vivo tab. I'm traveling before it gets released, so I'm gonna be pretty gutted not using it overseas
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.... I have tested nearly all browsers and none is giving me good experience....
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Agreed..., sadly.
Though, if NoScript finally becomes available for FF then this will be a prime reason for me to stick to FF (beta or not,
not that much difference these days).
Quote Giorgio Maone on NSA for FF mobile (v 14+): "By the end of the summer."
see noscript.net/nsa
Maybe its just me, but I'm hating JB and Android. The TF700 is my first Android device.
#1, its friggin slow. I'm browsing with Firefox and its touch and wait. Its incredibly slow.
#2, you can't multi task anything. At best you can play music while you browse. That is it.
#3, everything is locked down and the apps are not great quality.
I'm speaking compared to running Fedora 17 on a Dell Duo.
As far as I can tell the Dell Duo (Atom) has about the same processing speed as the TF700 (Tegra 3). They both have the same RAM, 1 GB. The Duo has a built in hard drive, but I could probably fit Linux on 32GB and use a SD card for everything else. And a USB drive when necessary.
Linux is so much faster on the Duo than Android is on the TF700. I can have 5 instances of Firefox open on 4 desktops with a couple tabs open in each one. Libre Office works well on the Duo and anything else I need is only a yum command away.
Lots of the Google Play software doesn't really work well. I'm surprised.
Android is a darn clunky OS. I'm surprised at that too.
Example, I want to transfer files from my Linux PC to the TF700 and back, all via my PC.
I do this all the time via Bluetooth with the Duo and with my Nokia N900. Both of these devices have the obex library installed on them. Dolphin in KDE sees the devices and downloads an image of their filesystem to browse. Uploading and downloading is as simple as dragging and dropping files to and from Dolphin.
I've tried several apps from Google play that say they implement obex, but none seem to work. Ironically Linux has an open source obex library freely available. It appears that I would have to root my TF700 in order to install it. On a regular Linux machine its as easy as yum install obex. Or apt-get obex. Or synaptic.
Android's answer to obex seems to be Air Droid. Which works, but doesn't allow me to do anything with the TF700 while I am doing a transfer. And which you have to initiate from the tablet all the time and input a password into the browser client running on the PC. And dragging and dropping files on a browser is not the same as doing it in Dolphin, where I can right click, open a sell and treat the remote device file system like any other file system.
Example, I want to listen to a podcast while I browse websites.
I browsed to a podcast page in Firefox that had streaming MP3 links or iTunes links.
I don't have an iTunes client on my TF700, so that is out. When I right clicked (lonnngggg hold) the streaming MP3 link, it give me 3 options. 1. Open link in new tab. 2. Share link. 3. Bookmark link. None of those does me any good.
If I single press the link, it starts downloading, which is what I want. Only there isn't any UI feedback to tell me its downloading, so I press it 3x while waiting and the file downloads 3x.
At some point a media player starts playing the file. 3X as a matter of fact. But if I leave the page, it stops playing it, even though it has downloaded the file locally.
No problem, its downloaded locally, I'll play it locally. If I then go to Downloads in Firefox and select Open, it doesn't have a file association to start playing the file. It says it can't open the file with the PDF viewer.
So then I have to close Firefox and open the file manager and copy the file to the Music folder because the music player won't find it anywhere else. Then I can click the file and the music player starts playing it.
In Firefox in Fedora, I right click the link and select Open with... and select VLC and it plays. Done. It takes 5 seconds.
I find I can't browse my gmail account very well. I can't do anything on eBay. Amazon is out too. Again and again I am grabbing my Duo to do what I thought I was going to do with my TF700. I thought that Android was going to be this hot shot OS, really powerful, clean, fast, neat. Instead its slow, clunky, locked up and very poorly integrated.
Basically, I'm finding my TF700 to be a useless device due to the OS contraints. Anyone else finding this ?
I'm thinking its time to run Linux natively on my TF700. I haven't a clue how to set that up, the boot part at least. With the Duo it was as simple as getting to the BIOS and booting an install image. How does one do that on the TF700 ? If I ever get Linux installed and I want to go back to JB, is there a way ?
http://www.nvidia.com/content/devzone/linux-for-tegra.html
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTA3MjQ
http://zenit.senecac.on.ca/wiki/index.php/Fedora_ARM_Secondary_Architecture
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM
Wow. So much hate. If you really want Linux (only one on the way to being ported in this tablet is Ubuntu) you will just have to be patient. A dev here by the name Hiemanshu is working to get it to dual boot with the tablet. I highly doubt you can do it yourself as it requires a lot of Kernel work. Unless you know what you are doing, be my guest. And if you are discontent with the various features Android has to offer, you can always step down and get an iOS product. It is personal preference. This is a great tablet for me and just about the rest of the community here. Root it and install Clean-Rom. You might have something better to say next time. :thumbup:
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I'm not even going into these hate posts anymore. Just learn to work with what you've got -- the TF700 serves me pretty well. If you want a desktop experience (that is what you imply by referring to Linux anyway), you should have gotten a freaking laptop instead -- and put some *nix variety on it and be happy. And please do not make an effort to post in here how happy you are with your new setup: we are happy with ours as well.
@MOD: Can we get a lock, please?
For the record, I have 2 laptops in addition to the TF700.
I fail to see what the difference is between a "desktop experience" and what Android tries to implement. I can set Linux up to everything Android does UI wise. What is the Android experience versus the desktop experience ?
I thought the whole Android thing was supposed to be superior web and multimedia functionality. My Linux devices kick my TF700 to the curb. Streamtuner, Amarok, Shairplay, faster browser (Firefox), etc.
Am I missing something ?
unlock, root, go to CleanRom and shush.
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For the record, I have 2 laptops in addition to the TF700.
I fail to see what the difference is between a "desktop experience" and what Android tries to implement. I can set Linux up to everything Android does UI wise. What is the Android experience versus the desktop experience ?
I thought the whole Android thing was supposed to be superior web and multimedia functionality. My Linux devices kick my TF700 to the curb. Streamtuner, Amarok, Shairplay, faster browser (Firefox), etc.
Am I missing something ?
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Yes, you're missing:
- Touch Screen capabilities
- Form-factor (I'm sure your laptops are much larger and heavier than your TF700.
- Battery Life - I've yet to see a laptop with the type of battery life I get from my TF700+dock.
- Cheap, plentiful apps - I don't think there are nearly as many 99 cent apps for Linux as there are for Android.
- "removable" screen - let see you pop the screen off of you laptop!
There are clearly a lot of advantages to the TF700+dock over a linux laptop... Just as there are advantages of a Linux laptop over the TF700+dock. It all depends on what you want to do.
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Yes, you're missing:
- Touch Screen capabilities
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The duo is touch screen.
- Form-factor (I'm sure your laptops are much larger and heavier than your TF700.
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The duo has a built in keyboard and hard drive. By the time you add them to the TF700, there is no size/weight difference.
- Battery Life - I've yet to see a laptop with the type of battery life I get from my TF700+dock.
- Cheap, plentiful apps - I don't think there are nearly as many 99 cent apps for Linux as there are for Android.
- "removable" screen - let see you pop the screen off of you laptop!
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These are mostly hardware advantages. I agree the TF700 rocks hardware wise. Its the OS I don't like.
My Duo came with Windows 7 and I hated it with it. Linux fixed that and now I love it. I think the TF700 would rock running Linux. It would be so much faster running apps natively instead of through the Dalvik/Java VM. Just look at how fast the Nokia N900 is.
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The duo is touch screen.
The duo has a built in keyboard and hard drive. By the time you add them to the TF700, there is no size/weight difference.
These are mostly hardware advantages. I agree the TF700 rocks hardware wise. Its the OS I don't like.
My Duo came with Windows 7 and I hated it with it. Linux fixed that and now I love it. I think the TF700 would rock running Linux. It would be so much faster running apps natively instead of through the Dalvik/Java VM. Just look at how fast the Nokia N900 is.
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Ok, so I was wrong about the touch screen (didn't notice you said Duo) - but all of the other advantages are still true (who would ever hook up a harddrive to the TF700 during normal use)? And the TF700 does have a keyboard (using the keyboard dock). It's still much smaller and lighter than the Duo.
Besides the hardware advantages, the Play Store is a huge advantage. Linux isn't all that great when it comes to general-purpose apps for the end-user.
I absolutely love the TF700 and it perform *great*, especially with CleanROM. Personally, I have absolutely no reason to want a linux laptop - no interest whatsoever. And I'm a Unix admin by trade!
The TF700 is a great device hardware and software-wise. What good is a super fast OS (Linux) without the apps to go with it? That's where Linux falls down - the availability of apps for the end-user... I don't care how fast it is, if the apps aren't there, it's not very useful, in my opinion.... On the other hand, there are hundred of thousands (I think) apps for Android - all written for touch-screen devices. How many touch-screen-enabled apps are available for a Linux laptop?
Again, it all boils down to what you want to do with the device - I like having the flexibility that Android and the TF700 provides. It's plenty fast....
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Thanks for your replies. I'm, glad this turned into a discussion instead of people hating on me for expressing my displeasure with the TF700.
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Ok, so I was wrong about the touch screen (didn't notice you said Duo) - but all of the other advantages are still true (who would ever hook up a harddrive to the TF700 during normal use)? And the TF700 does have a keyboard (using the keyboard dock). It's still much smaller and lighter than the Duo.
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By itself, yes. With the dock, not by much. And there is a new Duo coming out, with an i5.
Besides the hardware advantages, the Play Store is a huge advantage. Linux isn't all that great when it comes to general-purpose apps for the end-user.
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What does the Google Play have that Fedora doesn't have in its repositories ? Games come to mind, but I'm not a big gamer. I'm running some of the same apps on my TF700 than I use on the rest of my Linux machines. VLC, Firefox, etc. I WISH that Play had a lot of things I take for granted in Linux, like Stream Tuner, Amarok, etc.
I absolutely love the TF700 and it perform *great*, especially with CleanROM.
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Please tell me more about this. Why does it run faster with CleanROM ? I'm at the point where I need to seriously consider installing it.
Personally, I have absolutely no reason to want a linux laptop - no interest whatsoever. And I'm a Unix admin by trade!
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- Being able to use any USB sound device you want.
- Ssh (-X!) without rooting.
- Having BusyBox (and more) without rooting.
- yum.
- KDE 4.9 with multiple desktops.
- Dolphin.
- Libre office <--- without this, the TF700 is a multimedia surfer, not anything more.
- Having access to ALL the plugins for Firefox
I dare you to install Fedora 17 KDE on a laptop and experience it for yourself. I didn't mean to turn this into a Linux versus Android debate, but I see way more missing from Android than missing from Linux.
The TF700 is a great device hardware and software-wise. What good is a super fast OS (Linux) without the apps to go with it? That's where Linux falls down - the availability of apps for the end-user... I don't care how fast it is, if the apps aren't there, it's not very useful, in my opinion....
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What apps are you speaking of ?
On the other hand, there are hundred of thousands (I think) apps for Android - all written for touch-screen devices. How many touch-screen-enabled apps are available for a Linux laptop?
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Most any app runs quite well on a touchscreen in KDE with the appearance setting tweaked for larger fonts. And there is Plasma-Active, specifically designed for touch devices. In Linux you can switch back and forth between a desktop optimized UI and a touchscreen optimized UI.
Android (and iOS and Win Phone) and all its a app market is designed for tiuchscreen our for our large fingers while desktop experience with windows 7 or linux are about app needing very precise and small mouse/touchpad actions. I don't know about any linux distrib that has a "fingers-oriented" GUI, the same for linux applications who are using menus, buttons, ... all too small for my fingers. .... Unless i'm wrong. Unless you use keyboard and mouse, but this is imho the exact contrary to standard use of touchscreen tablets.
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It's not only font size that makes app touchscreen capable, it's the entir e way the GUI is designed. So i don't believe that kde ans app you list are that really fine on touchscreen : they works but this is natural using
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I must be doing something wrong because "normal" apps work just fine on my Duo touchscreen.
And then there is this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulcizzAj-N4
For those that aren't aware, Plasma is a window manager scheme available in KDE.
The plasma demo is very nice but it'll about specific plasma app (web browsing, mails, photo viewer, word & sheet viewer) and no classic linux app like firefox thunderbird, the gimp, ...
Myself i'm sometimes using my android tablet to connect to my win7 pc and that i use win7 and app like chrome, thunderbird, office and i constantly have to zoom in/out to use menus or choose in lists. Not very comfortable
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The plasma demo is very nice but it'll about specific plasma app (web browsing, mails, photo viewer, word & sheet viewer) and no classic linux app like firefox thunderbird, the gimp, ...
Myself i'm sometimes using my android tablet to connect to my win7 pc and that i use win7 and app like chrome, thunderbird, office and i constantly have to zoom in/out to use menus or choose in lists. Not very comfortable
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Agreed - just because you *can* do something, doesn't mean that it's the best way to do something (or even practical). There is no way that apps which aren't designed for touch screen devices will be as productive as apps that are specifically designed for touch screens... The Linux app ecosystem is not anywhere near as robust as the Android app ecosystem, especially for end users - not even close. Linux OS strengths are geared towards being used as a server operating system - not an end-user operating system.
Have you looked at all of the apps available in the Play Store? The are all written specifically for a touch screen device, unlike Android apps.
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No linux is fine for end-user, gnome or kde or other linux desktop are nearly as much easy to use than any other os desktop. But the same than for win ok mac osx they are for keyboard/mouse use.
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My Infinity is sucking less lately. An update to Firefox helped immensely. I still find Android clunky compared to Linux, but its liveable. I am going to test Plasma Active on my Duo. I'll report back on how I like it.
As far as apps having to be specifically designed for a touch interface versus a mouse interface, yes and no. I run regular Linux apps on my Duo with the touch screen without any issues. What is the difference in touching an html link on a web page versus a menu item in an app ? Nothing.
I downloaded a couple books in PDF format on my Infinity. It was EXCELLENT at that. LOVE the form factor and the screen. I played with a Samsung 10.1 tablet the other day and I'll take my Infinity over it any day. On the downside, the USB adapter is clunky and constantly falls out of the port, making it nearly unusable.
I'll be very interested in your report about kde plasma. On linux, i've always been a gnome user and a kde disliker ( i tried many times but never liked it). Maybe plasma could make me like kde at last
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I hope and wait for ubuntu on my Infinity
Ghorin said:
I'll be very interested in your report about kde plasma. On linux, i've always been a gnome user and a kde disliker ( i tried many times but never liked it). Maybe plasma could make me like kde at last
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When was the last time you tried KDE ? Recent versions of KDE are miles better than even the early 4 series. The late 3 series was feature laden but surely not polished. I find the recent KDE releases to be super polished and very functional. I run 6 desktops with multiple activities. I know of no other desktop environment that can match it.
If you were turned off aesthetically, I am too with some of the KDE themes. I am running the Androbit desktop theme, with 2 panels, one of the top for the desktop and app managers and one at the bottom for program icons.
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"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
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Its not the prettiest desktop, its pretty vanilla, but it works for me. I could easily improve it if I spent more time. I purposely run a boring desktop wallpaper so that I can easily find icons. Fedora has some great wall papers but they are too busy for my taste.
Having said all that, I'm already running Plasma on the Duo. I'll be testing Plasma Active in the near future.
This is on a 30" Dell U3011. 2560x1600 IIRC, so the icons and text are not as small as they may seem in that picture.
And yes, I have 19 Firefox instances running...
Who's testing this out?
I'm using it now. So far I don't see any differences. Anyone else trying it?
Yeah - I'm playing with it also.
Not seeing anything yet, but from running 2 chromebooks, I usually see quite a bit of difference with the beta channel.
Probably just a matter of time...
Anyone try the new Firefox? The page rendering is absolutely gorgeous.
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I also have the fireFox beta as well. Agree with you on the rendering, so far haven't noticed it being very fast though
Chrome beta? Don't you mean just Chrome? When Google first released Chrome for Android it was just a beta, but it's not anymore, and it's still no where near the performance as the x86/x64 Chrome on PC.
I keep the Chrome icon on my homescreen for fashion purpose only but primarily use the stock Android browser.
I haven't downloaded Firefox lately, but I have been using Mozilla's Aurora which I'm sure Firefox is getting it's new features from.
Overall I'm not satisfied with the Android browser desktop experience simply because I still have to switch between Stock, Aurora, and Boat to view certain websites for compatibility, when there really should be one main browser that can do all.
Chrome releases a beta several days ago. It's not in the play store. You have to get it online.
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the_game_master said:
Chrome beta? Don't you mean just Chrome?
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The desktop version of Chrome runs stable and beta channels, and now the Android version does the same. Beta channel on the desktop gets functions before the stable, but as the beta moniker suggests, they may not be without a few stability issues.
Since I run beta on the desktop and contribute with bug reports, improvement suggestions, etc, I figured I would do the same on Android...
The beta version is in the Play Store, but it's the TF700 gets the unsupported device message. I sideloaded, since I have it on my GNex...
On my Infiniti TF700, it's way faster than base Chrome. However Chrome Beta still stutters and lags and no flash support. Best option for Asus transformers is stock browser with Browser2ram. Single best improvement once you root your device.
Another option is to use Dolphin browser. Go to Its Setting-> Lab. Turn on the "Cache to SD Card". You will see huge performance improvement right after.
Though Dolphin browser still does not support Flash though.
lyrelai said:
Another option is to use Dolphin browser. Go to Its Setting-> Lab. Turn on the "Cache to SD Card". You will see huge performance improvement right after.
Though Dolphin browser still does not support Flash though.
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which really annoys me that dolphin did that. they assume every user that has JB will not have flash and have removed the option to even use it. grr.
Why every now and then.....when I try to search something on Google, or in the browser url, it will freeze and not do anything? It sometimes happens when I go from website to website too. I would clean the cache and history to no avail. I'd do a reboot and it works.
It's so annoying! Is there a easier way or fix? Anyone else experience that?
It happens on both stock Browser and Chrome (non beta).
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xRevilatioNx said:
Anyone try the new Firefox? The page rendering is absolutely gorgeous.
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I tried the new Firefox and had to stop pretty quick. Unless you use Phony, or something similar, to change the user agent, popular pages like ESPN (especially the mobile version) could not be viewed properly.