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Am I the only one starting to hate their tf? I am finding mine more and more useless for web browsing each day. I figure web browsing would be the one aspect they perfect if none else! Examples from tonight.
I try to send a friend a message on facebook.com and when I finally get the slow tf to the new message screen, I click paste and the browser crashes!
In gmail.com I was trying to setup mail forwarding and the keyboard refused to appear on the screen even though my text box was open with a blinking cursor!
Trying to click on various links on web sites it often hits the wrong link.
Trying to watch any videos or flash in the browser is usually uselessly slow.
Overall loading and rendering of pages takes a very long time, especially when compared to a normal computer... shoot, my htc evo loads pages faster!
Using forums utterly sucks, typing is really delayed and scrolling around the page is painfully slow as I have to watch square after square render
Half the time when typing it misses a key then the backspace refuses to work!
Ahhhh... come on Google! Wtf! As much as I hate to say it, I am starting to see why ppl pay more for the ipad2, it usually just works smooth and quick!
I gotta ask what rom your running. I have some glitches now and again but overall mine is snappy. MAybe its time for a cache clearing?
A few of the problems you mention can be solved by using apps instead of going through the browser every time. It's not always the fault of Google that web pages run slow; web developers are notoriously lazy when it comes to optimization for mobile devices like phones and tablets. They're not desktop or laptop replacements, therefore you can't expect the same performance.
The best thing you can do for speed and stability is to use apps more often than the browser. For instance, use the Facebook Messenger app for sending Facebook messages, and FriendMe for all other Facebook tasks. For forum browsing, try using Tapatalk. Other than that, always make sure you are running the most current firmware and plugins.
Like just now, I tried to reply to this thread and nothing would type in the box, just a blinky cursor, I wait a few seconds and still nothing then I type a bunch of garbage and it all shows up! But of course then backspace wouldn't work.. its like hard work just to reply to this thread.
I am using the latest prime rom. I've used nothing but prime mostly and I usually wipe everything and the caches for each new release just to be safe... and I can understand about using different apps but I shouldn't need a separate app for everything, I mean my android phone plays flash videos smoother.. and the facebook apps! Suck for the most part when compared to the site (I know that sentence was messed up but again, backspace wouldn't work for me to fix it!)
Very disappointed.. I love my android evo and have always backed android but this really stinks... I bought the tablet to relax and browse the net, it seems to just have made more work and aggrovation for me..
Have you tried different browser? I use Opera browser and it works pretty good. dolphin HD works pretty well too. Dice Player and/or MX video players? lastest flash version perhaps? I am using Prime 1.8.4, no complain here as far as software go.
i've always used tapatalk to post in this forum, so i never actually tried to use the website to do so.
so i decided to do this via stock browser. my review: it's not perfect, there's a half-second delay to get it going, but for the most part, it's perfectly useable.
i even realized i wasn't even doing the about:debug trick. once i did it improved mildly. i do have flash enabled 100%, and i'm currently staring at a bestbuy flash ad.
overall though, it'd say it's quite useable, not perfect, but not as bad as the OP's case. backspace work fine.
wmblalock said:
I am using the latest prime rom.
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A few people have had problems with the latest prime rom such as slow wifi and browser problems. But like others said, use a different browser such as opera mini.
My suggestion would be to try the revolver rom.
+1 for Opera Browser. I am running Revolver rom and using Opera and it is fast as f%$k with the blockiness 99% gone. Don't know if it is the rom, which I think is faster than prime, or Opera but I am loving my tf more every day.
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+1 for Opera Browser. I am running Revolver rom and using Opera and it is fast as f%$k with the blockiness 99% gone. Don't know if it is the rom, which I think is faster than prime, or Opera but I am loving my tf more every day.
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The only Opera I have used is the mobile tablet one. I may have several tabs open at the same time..I hate having to click on the way you display all the tabs (thumbnails) select a tab...takes a double click or hard to close one. I haven't checked for blockiness being gone since the last update. I thought it was gone in Dolphin HD at first...today it seems back. i hate that about my wifes ipad...not being able to draw or refresh the entire web page at once ..so I can scroll down it properly....
I mostly use Dolphin HD. It doesn't force close or crash any more than Opera does for me.
Yes web browsing does leave something to be desired on the TF. Strangely enough using the same browser on my phone I don't discover the same problems. My conclusion? HC leaves something to be desired... hopefully with ICS things will get better.
Has any of you tried Dolphin Pad? It's a beta version of Dolphin optimized for tablets and works quite better than Dolphin HD.
Oh wait, don't let me post a link because of my post count, ****. Just search for it in the market. It's called "Dolphin for Pad V1.0 Beta"
I have no problems with browsing using dolphin pad or opera. Fast as hell on the revolver ROM. tf was a great investment.
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Have you tried different browser? I use Opera browser and it works pretty good. dolphin HD works pretty well too. Dice Player and/or MX video players? lastest flash version perhaps? I am using Prime 1.8.4, no complain here as far as software go.
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He must be using something, nobody, and i mean nobody uses the stock browser do they
I use the stock browser
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He must be using something, nobody, and i mean nobody uses the stock browser do they
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I use the stock browser and I don't have any problems at all with it. When I first got my tf I was able to sync my bookmarks so that every machine I use has the same set - this would be worth a lot of inconvenience as I have a lot of work material in my bookmarks. The tf is not as fast as my desktop but then it wouldn't be would it? It's slower than my netbook's browser but then the touchscreen is easier to use than the trackpad. I don't recognise any of the OP's problems and I've never used any other browser.
I do feel for you, I have had some isues as well. But once i rooted, flashed and yes oc'd I have had alot less issues. I still get some wierd lag and force close apps about once a day but its nothing hat i cant live with, well excpet for the gun bro's lag. Its become unplayable.
I would try the suggestions to use apps and manage your programs a bit better. Clear the cache, check your perms see how it runs then
I love my TF more and more every day, its just getting better and faster with every update from Asus.
I use the stock browser still as well. I have tried various others on the TF and use Dolphin HD on my HTC Desire, but on the TF the stock browser seems the best still, I haven't had any issues with it other than it being a bit slow on forums.
I'm on 100% stock, using stock browser, and on Newgrounds.com right now. Flash is running smooth. Yes, when scrolling down the page I see the empty boxes but they render quickly. TF smokes the ipad2.
I use the official rom and it works GREAT, watch flash videos without a problem. Really if you have those kinds of problems you should hate your rom ( unless you are using the official one, in that case i would factory reset ) not the tf...
I'm using stock browser also. The keyboard delay is annoying I have to say.
For the rest it works OK. Sync my bookmarks with Google which I find very handy.
I'm running Revolver OC and ADW EX.
This is very fast and fluid. I'm very pleased with the way it works right now.
Most of the OP issues sound like browser issues, I can't access gmail settings without any browser crashing too, but no biggy
Forums are known to be slow for typing into, I think we need a browser that supports 2D Hardware acceleration like FF does on the PC etc
I'm running the latest prime rom also and I'm OC'd to 1.5 GHz along with ADW EX and i couldn't be happier with my tf. I also use Dolphin HD and have no problems with it. As someone else said use apps specialized for specific tasks rather than websites.
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I am finally using the Transformer on vacation and the browser is erroring with a "force restart" message. Can be using 2-4hrs and message pops up. Not very nice.
On the latest build. What gives..Is this to be expected on Ver3.2?
Now i will say this...My wife's iPad has never done this..would hate to buy Apple but you cannot fault a Apple not working 99.9%..100% if flash gets loaded and with Steve Jobs gone this will happen.
use dolphin hd tablet.
Use opera browser, I think it's the best browser for the TF ATM, dolphin HD is good also but it's slower and laggier then opera for me...
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I don't have any problems with the stock browser FC and my wife doesn't have an iPad so maybe that's the Problem?
mikelt89 said:
Use opera browser, I think it's the best browser for the TF ATM, dolphin HD is good also but it's slower and laggier then opera for me...
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Ok and installed. Let's see how this behaves.
Some quick comments:
1. Open web sites at first are slower..about 10secs more then stock browser
2. Flash is work fine
3. Pages are scrolling smoother then stock browser
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To the OP, android did not just come out yesterday. If you really hate android stock browser before trying out other alternatives, you should get yourself an ipad.
I've actually seen people complain about the black area around the screen on the iconia and transformer. I told those people to get an ipad because [sarcasm] the ipad has no black area around its screen at all[/sarcasm].
I have the same problems with the latest version
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goodintentions said:
To the OP, android did not just come out yesterday. If you really hate android stock browser before trying out other alternatives, you should get yourself an ipad.
I've actually seen people complain about the black area around the screen on the iconia and transformer. I told those people to get an ipad because [sarcasm] the ipad has no black area around its screen at all[/sarcasm].
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I stated that the stock browser after 2-5hrs of use gives a "force restart" pop-up message. I am using a "stock" unit with the lastest firmware. I am trying another browser to see if it works without crashing. Again, since I do have a iPad 1 I can compare on the user experience. Android has some work to do on there platform...FACT
OP:
1. Flash is not 100% working on FP sites...this is noted from OP whitepaper
2. Using 3hrs and no crash message at this time..I use around 8 tabs in the browser.
3. Screen sizing is not as good as stock browser....OP resizing back and forth.
4. There is a lag from the keybard when typing..OS issue as this happens in any app.
Trying flash on both browsers. Flash does not work well on 360 views. It tries but then page displays "stop" symbol then site tab removes itself. Nice..
Site is landrover.com
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I stated that the stock browser after 2-5hrs of use gives a "force restart" pop-up message. I am using a "stock" unit with the lastest firmware. I am trying another browser to see if it works without crashing. Again, since I do have a iPad 1 I can compare on the user experience. Android has some work to do on there platform...FACT
OP:
1. Flash is not 100% working on FP sites...this is noted from OP whitepaper
2. Using 3hrs and no crash message at this time..I use around 8 tabs in the browser.
3. Screen sizing is not as good as stock browser....OP resizing back and forth.
4. There is a lag from the keybard when typing..OS issue as this happens in any app.
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Everything needs work. Thats why we have alternatives like firefox or opera. If you want everything to work exactly perfectly on stock you should stick with the ipad.
1, 3, and 4 are not true. Opera and firefox do not lag at all. This is not an os issue. Its software compatibility with the website issue.
Again, thats why we have free alternatives.
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Everything needs work. Thats why we have alternatives like firefox or opera. If you want everything to work exactly perfectly on stock you should stick with the ipad.
1, 3, and 4 are not true. Opera and firefox do not lag at all. This is not an os issue. Its software compatibility with the website issue.
Again, thats why we have free alternatives.
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Flash is spotty on sites..as GM, Shopnbc.tv just to name a few. Basically the tablet is just not as good as a Laptop..The tablet is not 100% ready for Primetime...Apple still has the support of the business and OS..while no tablet at this time can replace a Laptop..I still will support my TF...BUT that's why use a Alienware M11x...light and ultra fast and works 100%..
I just uninstall OP.....going to test Dolphin Browser HD
Just one more note on OP:
When streaming video, the video remains playing as in Standard Browser or Dolphin this pauses the stream when switching to other tabs. This is very nice as with me having 8 or 9 tabs going at a time I can have streaming music in the background.
Now..Dolphin was able to work a little better for flash at landrover.com, Shopnbctv worked 100%. This app has a lot of setup options....
Since last firmware upgrade I noticed frequent browser crashes to the homescreen.
Suddenly the browser window disppears, and I am back at the homescreen, without the browser window I was watching being saved - when I restart the browser I am back at my starting page.
Did not find any solution!
^x2 same problems
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kaylord84 said:
^x2 same problems
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Back using OP...why....it works.
I was in the middle of placing a order with Stock Browser and got a "force start" message. Luckily i quickly loaded OP and completed my watch order...Shopnbc.com
This "bug" needs to be addressed by Google...I was going to grab the wifes iPad as this purchase needed to go thru....but OP came thru...
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^x2 same problems
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Me to. Sometimes more frequent then others.
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the browser is erroring with a "force restart" message. Can be using 2-4hrs and message pops up. Not very nice.
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My browser under 3.2 rebooted spontaneously one time. Other than that, I love it. Flash works smoothly, pages render fast enough, and the menu list when you touch the extreme right edge is fabulous.
I'm playing around too. When I first got 3.2 I though the browser was better. Now it seems to crash all the time. I've been using OP and it works pretty well. The sizing issues are annoying, but it works.
Hopefully, Google will get this fixed. The browser on my Vibrant (Froyo) is rock solid.
I'll give Dolphin its shot too. I would be ok with a little slower if it was stable.
Glad to see I'm not the only one with this issue. I've had it happen multiple times right now - really pronounced on Amazon's site when browsing through items.
Also noticed that my "go back" button (the arrow, not the browser's actual back button) no longer functions as expected. I used to be able to hit that to go back to the previous page - now it takes several tries or me going to the top of the page and using the actual back button to go back. Anyone know of a fix? It's been a problem since the last OTA.
What browser do you use and why?
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I keep switching between Boat, ICS+, Dolphin, Maxthon...
They all work and they all kind of suck too.
Maybe web browsing on android is just a pain in the butt.
It's the same on my wife's tablet...
Pick one...all the browsers freak out in varying degrees.
I realize this is a non-answer.
Good luck finding a smooth non crashing browser.
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I use the stock browser and it is pretty much faster after I install (Browser2ram) (( need root ))
I use boat that it's perfect and chrome only for Facebook full site.
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I've tried Chrome, Firefox Beta, Dolphin and ICS+ and went back to stock. As was previously said each one has its issues. Even on my HOX none of them works perfectly. When I set my CPU governor to Performance then the stock browser is as good if not better than the rest.
+1 for Boat - very fast, and very stable (I don't have *any* crashing issues with Boat). Still get the occasional web site that just doesn't work right, even with Boat, but it's the best I've found. Dolphin seems pretty good as well.
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Dolphin because of the Lastpass plugin. Can't live without Lastpass, but I am sure Dolphin as a browser isnt the best, I wish other browsers would add it.
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What browser do you use and why?
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I like ICS+. The quick controls are convenient, but the main reason i stick with it is when Google imported my hundreds of bookmarks into it, all of them were still organized into all the folders and subfolders i spent HOURS on reorganizing. All the other browsers i have tried so far, just dump them all in with no organization at all. Just 200 something bookmarks plopped at your feet.
FireFox seems to be getting better, too. It's out of beta stage now.
I'm using Chrome for syncing bookmarks / open tabs with my PC, but it can be done with FF as well now, I believe.
I like Dolphin. It had everything i need. Boat is great, but i keep going back to Dolphin.
I don't like apps spying on me, so I don't like these two, but we had a discussion on that already in the best apps sticky thread a while ago, and jtrosky will beat the hell out of me for spoiling browsing fun by saying this, so I need to keep quiet.
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I prefer Google Chrome, I just like the way it runs. Hasn't failed me yet!
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does firefox sync with your home PC favorites? tool bar favorites etc? is there an app that does this? browser app that is
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does firefox sync with your home PC favorites? tool bar favorites etc? is there an app that does this? browser app that is
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Firefox does have sync ability.
Chrome and Stock browser both sync to your desktop bookmarks.
Browsing on Infinity is one of the weakness and hope to be improved aspect. Some one in this thread mentioned possibility of all browser sucks on android, which is NOT true. I had different tablet and its browsing experience was superior to iPad 2 for its speed, stability.
Also there is this app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.h.chromemarks&hl=en, which allows you to launch any browser using chrome's bookmark.
Opera Mobile
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Opera Mobile
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Everything looked rather tiny on the Infinity last time I checked.
Mibile Firefox
I like to:good::laugh: work with Firefox on my Asus Tf700T. It works great and fast
Actually, I got my Infinity in july and right now the web experience is the main drawback experience so far. The lag and crash of the launcher is far less annoying that the slowness and lag of the web browsing. I have tested nearly all browsers and none is giving me good experience :
- stock browser : miss some functionalities, slow and laggy
- chrome : my prefered as i'm sharing my bookmarks with my personal computer, work computer and iphone but too slow and laggy
- firefox : looks nice and is doing bookmarks sync (but firefox does not exist for my iPhone), still beta version that deals very badly with plugins. For example when a page needs a flash player then it will display an ugly inside-window with "click here to activate the plugin" and that inside-window prevent any fast web browsing.
- others (boat, dolphin, opera ...) : not impressed, all miss the sync of chrome bookmarks (needed to have my bookmarks sync on all my platforms)
My hope is that Jelly Bean/next version of chrome will improve the stability and swiftness of that browser as this is the only one that contains all the functionnalities i need.
hmm, I might wait for the asus vivo tab. I'm traveling before it gets released, so I'm gonna be pretty gutted not using it overseas
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.... I have tested nearly all browsers and none is giving me good experience....
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Agreed..., sadly.
Though, if NoScript finally becomes available for FF then this will be a prime reason for me to stick to FF (beta or not,
not that much difference these days).
Quote Giorgio Maone on NSA for FF mobile (v 14+): "By the end of the summer."
see noscript.net/nsa
Chrome on Android is finally started to act like it's Intel x86 ran cousin with this new update from the PlayStore,
now when I go to sites with menus they actively drop down when I hover above them with keyboard dock mouse. I couldn't get this behavior at all much before.
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Chrome on Android is finally started to act like it's Intel x86 ran cousin with this new update from the PlayStore,
now when I go to sites with menus they actively drop down when I hover above them with keyboard dock mouse. I couldn't get this behavior at all much before.
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I noticed this too. Very helpful since I use this tablet for school and I need it to access the desktop site for the school. All the flash documents unfortunately need to be run from Dolphin
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Who's testing this out?
I'm using it now. So far I don't see any differences. Anyone else trying it?
Yeah - I'm playing with it also.
Not seeing anything yet, but from running 2 chromebooks, I usually see quite a bit of difference with the beta channel.
Probably just a matter of time...
Anyone try the new Firefox? The page rendering is absolutely gorgeous.
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I also have the fireFox beta as well. Agree with you on the rendering, so far haven't noticed it being very fast though
Chrome beta? Don't you mean just Chrome? When Google first released Chrome for Android it was just a beta, but it's not anymore, and it's still no where near the performance as the x86/x64 Chrome on PC.
I keep the Chrome icon on my homescreen for fashion purpose only but primarily use the stock Android browser.
I haven't downloaded Firefox lately, but I have been using Mozilla's Aurora which I'm sure Firefox is getting it's new features from.
Overall I'm not satisfied with the Android browser desktop experience simply because I still have to switch between Stock, Aurora, and Boat to view certain websites for compatibility, when there really should be one main browser that can do all.
Chrome releases a beta several days ago. It's not in the play store. You have to get it online.
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Chrome beta? Don't you mean just Chrome?
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The desktop version of Chrome runs stable and beta channels, and now the Android version does the same. Beta channel on the desktop gets functions before the stable, but as the beta moniker suggests, they may not be without a few stability issues.
Since I run beta on the desktop and contribute with bug reports, improvement suggestions, etc, I figured I would do the same on Android...
The beta version is in the Play Store, but it's the TF700 gets the unsupported device message. I sideloaded, since I have it on my GNex...
On my Infiniti TF700, it's way faster than base Chrome. However Chrome Beta still stutters and lags and no flash support. Best option for Asus transformers is stock browser with Browser2ram. Single best improvement once you root your device.
Another option is to use Dolphin browser. Go to Its Setting-> Lab. Turn on the "Cache to SD Card". You will see huge performance improvement right after.
Though Dolphin browser still does not support Flash though.
lyrelai said:
Another option is to use Dolphin browser. Go to Its Setting-> Lab. Turn on the "Cache to SD Card". You will see huge performance improvement right after.
Though Dolphin browser still does not support Flash though.
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which really annoys me that dolphin did that. they assume every user that has JB will not have flash and have removed the option to even use it. grr.
Why every now and then.....when I try to search something on Google, or in the browser url, it will freeze and not do anything? It sometimes happens when I go from website to website too. I would clean the cache and history to no avail. I'd do a reboot and it works.
It's so annoying! Is there a easier way or fix? Anyone else experience that?
It happens on both stock Browser and Chrome (non beta).
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Anyone try the new Firefox? The page rendering is absolutely gorgeous.
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I tried the new Firefox and had to stop pretty quick. Unless you use Phony, or something similar, to change the user agent, popular pages like ESPN (especially the mobile version) could not be viewed properly.