[Q] I'm hating JB and Android in general. (Time for Linux ?) - Asus Transformer TF700

Maybe its just me, but I'm hating JB and Android. The TF700 is my first Android device.
#1, its friggin slow. I'm browsing with Firefox and its touch and wait. Its incredibly slow.
#2, you can't multi task anything. At best you can play music while you browse. That is it.
#3, everything is locked down and the apps are not great quality.
I'm speaking compared to running Fedora 17 on a Dell Duo.
As far as I can tell the Dell Duo (Atom) has about the same processing speed as the TF700 (Tegra 3). They both have the same RAM, 1 GB. The Duo has a built in hard drive, but I could probably fit Linux on 32GB and use a SD card for everything else. And a USB drive when necessary.
Linux is so much faster on the Duo than Android is on the TF700. I can have 5 instances of Firefox open on 4 desktops with a couple tabs open in each one. Libre Office works well on the Duo and anything else I need is only a yum command away.
Lots of the Google Play software doesn't really work well. I'm surprised.
Android is a darn clunky OS. I'm surprised at that too.
Example, I want to transfer files from my Linux PC to the TF700 and back, all via my PC.
I do this all the time via Bluetooth with the Duo and with my Nokia N900. Both of these devices have the obex library installed on them. Dolphin in KDE sees the devices and downloads an image of their filesystem to browse. Uploading and downloading is as simple as dragging and dropping files to and from Dolphin.
I've tried several apps from Google play that say they implement obex, but none seem to work. Ironically Linux has an open source obex library freely available. It appears that I would have to root my TF700 in order to install it. On a regular Linux machine its as easy as yum install obex. Or apt-get obex. Or synaptic.
Android's answer to obex seems to be Air Droid. Which works, but doesn't allow me to do anything with the TF700 while I am doing a transfer. And which you have to initiate from the tablet all the time and input a password into the browser client running on the PC. And dragging and dropping files on a browser is not the same as doing it in Dolphin, where I can right click, open a sell and treat the remote device file system like any other file system.
Example, I want to listen to a podcast while I browse websites.
I browsed to a podcast page in Firefox that had streaming MP3 links or iTunes links.
I don't have an iTunes client on my TF700, so that is out. When I right clicked (lonnngggg hold) the streaming MP3 link, it give me 3 options. 1. Open link in new tab. 2. Share link. 3. Bookmark link. None of those does me any good.
If I single press the link, it starts downloading, which is what I want. Only there isn't any UI feedback to tell me its downloading, so I press it 3x while waiting and the file downloads 3x.
At some point a media player starts playing the file. 3X as a matter of fact. But if I leave the page, it stops playing it, even though it has downloaded the file locally.
No problem, its downloaded locally, I'll play it locally. If I then go to Downloads in Firefox and select Open, it doesn't have a file association to start playing the file. It says it can't open the file with the PDF viewer.
So then I have to close Firefox and open the file manager and copy the file to the Music folder because the music player won't find it anywhere else. Then I can click the file and the music player starts playing it.
In Firefox in Fedora, I right click the link and select Open with... and select VLC and it plays. Done. It takes 5 seconds.
I find I can't browse my gmail account very well. I can't do anything on eBay. Amazon is out too. Again and again I am grabbing my Duo to do what I thought I was going to do with my TF700. I thought that Android was going to be this hot shot OS, really powerful, clean, fast, neat. Instead its slow, clunky, locked up and very poorly integrated.
Basically, I'm finding my TF700 to be a useless device due to the OS contraints. Anyone else finding this ?
I'm thinking its time to run Linux natively on my TF700. I haven't a clue how to set that up, the boot part at least. With the Duo it was as simple as getting to the BIOS and booting an install image. How does one do that on the TF700 ? If I ever get Linux installed and I want to go back to JB, is there a way ?

http://www.nvidia.com/content/devzone/linux-for-tegra.html
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTA3MjQ

http://zenit.senecac.on.ca/wiki/index.php/Fedora_ARM_Secondary_Architecture
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM

Wow. So much hate. If you really want Linux (only one on the way to being ported in this tablet is Ubuntu) you will just have to be patient. A dev here by the name Hiemanshu is working to get it to dual boot with the tablet. I highly doubt you can do it yourself as it requires a lot of Kernel work. Unless you know what you are doing, be my guest. And if you are discontent with the various features Android has to offer, you can always step down and get an iOS product. It is personal preference. This is a great tablet for me and just about the rest of the community here. Root it and install Clean-Rom. You might have something better to say next time. :thumbup:
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I'm not even going into these hate posts anymore. Just learn to work with what you've got -- the TF700 serves me pretty well. If you want a desktop experience (that is what you imply by referring to Linux anyway), you should have gotten a freaking laptop instead -- and put some *nix variety on it and be happy. And please do not make an effort to post in here how happy you are with your new setup: we are happy with ours as well.
@MOD: Can we get a lock, please?

For the record, I have 2 laptops in addition to the TF700.
I fail to see what the difference is between a "desktop experience" and what Android tries to implement. I can set Linux up to everything Android does UI wise. What is the Android experience versus the desktop experience ?
I thought the whole Android thing was supposed to be superior web and multimedia functionality. My Linux devices kick my TF700 to the curb. Streamtuner, Amarok, Shairplay, faster browser (Firefox), etc.
Am I missing something ?

unlock, root, go to CleanRom and shush.

Linuxguy1 said:
For the record, I have 2 laptops in addition to the TF700.
I fail to see what the difference is between a "desktop experience" and what Android tries to implement. I can set Linux up to everything Android does UI wise. What is the Android experience versus the desktop experience ?
I thought the whole Android thing was supposed to be superior web and multimedia functionality. My Linux devices kick my TF700 to the curb. Streamtuner, Amarok, Shairplay, faster browser (Firefox), etc.
Am I missing something ?
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Yes, you're missing:
- Touch Screen capabilities
- Form-factor (I'm sure your laptops are much larger and heavier than your TF700.
- Battery Life - I've yet to see a laptop with the type of battery life I get from my TF700+dock.
- Cheap, plentiful apps - I don't think there are nearly as many 99 cent apps for Linux as there are for Android.
- "removable" screen - let see you pop the screen off of you laptop!
There are clearly a lot of advantages to the TF700+dock over a linux laptop... Just as there are advantages of a Linux laptop over the TF700+dock. It all depends on what you want to do.
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jtrosky said:
Yes, you're missing:
- Touch Screen capabilities
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The duo is touch screen.
- Form-factor (I'm sure your laptops are much larger and heavier than your TF700.
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The duo has a built in keyboard and hard drive. By the time you add them to the TF700, there is no size/weight difference.
- Battery Life - I've yet to see a laptop with the type of battery life I get from my TF700+dock.
- Cheap, plentiful apps - I don't think there are nearly as many 99 cent apps for Linux as there are for Android.
- "removable" screen - let see you pop the screen off of you laptop!
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These are mostly hardware advantages. I agree the TF700 rocks hardware wise. Its the OS I don't like.
My Duo came with Windows 7 and I hated it with it. Linux fixed that and now I love it. I think the TF700 would rock running Linux. It would be so much faster running apps natively instead of through the Dalvik/Java VM. Just look at how fast the Nokia N900 is.

Linuxguy1 said:
The duo is touch screen.
The duo has a built in keyboard and hard drive. By the time you add them to the TF700, there is no size/weight difference.
These are mostly hardware advantages. I agree the TF700 rocks hardware wise. Its the OS I don't like.
My Duo came with Windows 7 and I hated it with it. Linux fixed that and now I love it. I think the TF700 would rock running Linux. It would be so much faster running apps natively instead of through the Dalvik/Java VM. Just look at how fast the Nokia N900 is.
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Ok, so I was wrong about the touch screen (didn't notice you said Duo) - but all of the other advantages are still true (who would ever hook up a harddrive to the TF700 during normal use)? And the TF700 does have a keyboard (using the keyboard dock). It's still much smaller and lighter than the Duo.
Besides the hardware advantages, the Play Store is a huge advantage. Linux isn't all that great when it comes to general-purpose apps for the end-user.
I absolutely love the TF700 and it perform *great*, especially with CleanROM. Personally, I have absolutely no reason to want a linux laptop - no interest whatsoever. And I'm a Unix admin by trade!
The TF700 is a great device hardware and software-wise. What good is a super fast OS (Linux) without the apps to go with it? That's where Linux falls down - the availability of apps for the end-user... I don't care how fast it is, if the apps aren't there, it's not very useful, in my opinion.... On the other hand, there are hundred of thousands (I think) apps for Android - all written for touch-screen devices. How many touch-screen-enabled apps are available for a Linux laptop?
Again, it all boils down to what you want to do with the device - I like having the flexibility that Android and the TF700 provides. It's plenty fast....
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Thanks for your replies. I'm, glad this turned into a discussion instead of people hating on me for expressing my displeasure with the TF700.
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Ok, so I was wrong about the touch screen (didn't notice you said Duo) - but all of the other advantages are still true (who would ever hook up a harddrive to the TF700 during normal use)? And the TF700 does have a keyboard (using the keyboard dock). It's still much smaller and lighter than the Duo.
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By itself, yes. With the dock, not by much. And there is a new Duo coming out, with an i5.
Besides the hardware advantages, the Play Store is a huge advantage. Linux isn't all that great when it comes to general-purpose apps for the end-user.
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What does the Google Play have that Fedora doesn't have in its repositories ? Games come to mind, but I'm not a big gamer. I'm running some of the same apps on my TF700 than I use on the rest of my Linux machines. VLC, Firefox, etc. I WISH that Play had a lot of things I take for granted in Linux, like Stream Tuner, Amarok, etc.
I absolutely love the TF700 and it perform *great*, especially with CleanROM.
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Please tell me more about this. Why does it run faster with CleanROM ? I'm at the point where I need to seriously consider installing it.
Personally, I have absolutely no reason to want a linux laptop - no interest whatsoever. And I'm a Unix admin by trade!
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- Being able to use any USB sound device you want.
- Ssh (-X!) without rooting.
- Having BusyBox (and more) without rooting.
- yum.
- KDE 4.9 with multiple desktops.
- Dolphin.
- Libre office <--- without this, the TF700 is a multimedia surfer, not anything more.
- Having access to ALL the plugins for Firefox
I dare you to install Fedora 17 KDE on a laptop and experience it for yourself. I didn't mean to turn this into a Linux versus Android debate, but I see way more missing from Android than missing from Linux.
The TF700 is a great device hardware and software-wise. What good is a super fast OS (Linux) without the apps to go with it? That's where Linux falls down - the availability of apps for the end-user... I don't care how fast it is, if the apps aren't there, it's not very useful, in my opinion....
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What apps are you speaking of ?
On the other hand, there are hundred of thousands (I think) apps for Android - all written for touch-screen devices. How many touch-screen-enabled apps are available for a Linux laptop?
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Most any app runs quite well on a touchscreen in KDE with the appearance setting tweaked for larger fonts. And there is Plasma-Active, specifically designed for touch devices. In Linux you can switch back and forth between a desktop optimized UI and a touchscreen optimized UI.

Android (and iOS and Win Phone) and all its a app market is designed for tiuchscreen our for our large fingers while desktop experience with windows 7 or linux are about app needing very precise and small mouse/touchpad actions. I don't know about any linux distrib that has a "fingers-oriented" GUI, the same for linux applications who are using menus, buttons, ... all too small for my fingers. .... Unless i'm wrong. Unless you use keyboard and mouse, but this is imho the exact contrary to standard use of touchscreen tablets.
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It's not only font size that makes app touchscreen capable, it's the entir e way the GUI is designed. So i don't believe that kde ans app you list are that really fine on touchscreen : they works but this is natural using
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I must be doing something wrong because "normal" apps work just fine on my Duo touchscreen.
And then there is this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulcizzAj-N4
For those that aren't aware, Plasma is a window manager scheme available in KDE.

The plasma demo is very nice but it'll about specific plasma app (web browsing, mails, photo viewer, word & sheet viewer) and no classic linux app like firefox thunderbird, the gimp, ...
Myself i'm sometimes using my android tablet to connect to my win7 pc and that i use win7 and app like chrome, thunderbird, office and i constantly have to zoom in/out to use menus or choose in lists. Not very comfortable
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Ghorin said:
The plasma demo is very nice but it'll about specific plasma app (web browsing, mails, photo viewer, word & sheet viewer) and no classic linux app like firefox thunderbird, the gimp, ...
Myself i'm sometimes using my android tablet to connect to my win7 pc and that i use win7 and app like chrome, thunderbird, office and i constantly have to zoom in/out to use menus or choose in lists. Not very comfortable
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Agreed - just because you *can* do something, doesn't mean that it's the best way to do something (or even practical). There is no way that apps which aren't designed for touch screen devices will be as productive as apps that are specifically designed for touch screens... The Linux app ecosystem is not anywhere near as robust as the Android app ecosystem, especially for end users - not even close. Linux OS strengths are geared towards being used as a server operating system - not an end-user operating system.
Have you looked at all of the apps available in the Play Store? The are all written specifically for a touch screen device, unlike Android apps.
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No linux is fine for end-user, gnome or kde or other linux desktop are nearly as much easy to use than any other os desktop. But the same than for win ok mac osx they are for keyboard/mouse use.
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My Infinity is sucking less lately. An update to Firefox helped immensely. I still find Android clunky compared to Linux, but its liveable. I am going to test Plasma Active on my Duo. I'll report back on how I like it.
As far as apps having to be specifically designed for a touch interface versus a mouse interface, yes and no. I run regular Linux apps on my Duo with the touch screen without any issues. What is the difference in touching an html link on a web page versus a menu item in an app ? Nothing.
I downloaded a couple books in PDF format on my Infinity. It was EXCELLENT at that. LOVE the form factor and the screen. I played with a Samsung 10.1 tablet the other day and I'll take my Infinity over it any day. On the downside, the USB adapter is clunky and constantly falls out of the port, making it nearly unusable.

I'll be very interested in your report about kde plasma. On linux, i've always been a gnome user and a kde disliker ( i tried many times but never liked it). Maybe plasma could make me like kde at last
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I hope and wait for ubuntu on my Infinity

Ghorin said:
I'll be very interested in your report about kde plasma. On linux, i've always been a gnome user and a kde disliker ( i tried many times but never liked it). Maybe plasma could make me like kde at last
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When was the last time you tried KDE ? Recent versions of KDE are miles better than even the early 4 series. The late 3 series was feature laden but surely not polished. I find the recent KDE releases to be super polished and very functional. I run 6 desktops with multiple activities. I know of no other desktop environment that can match it.
If you were turned off aesthetically, I am too with some of the KDE themes. I am running the Androbit desktop theme, with 2 panels, one of the top for the desktop and app managers and one at the bottom for program icons.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Its not the prettiest desktop, its pretty vanilla, but it works for me. I could easily improve it if I spent more time. I purposely run a boring desktop wallpaper so that I can easily find icons. Fedora has some great wall papers but they are too busy for my taste.
Having said all that, I'm already running Plasma on the Duo. I'll be testing Plasma Active in the near future.
This is on a 30" Dell U3011. 2560x1600 IIRC, so the icons and text are not as small as they may seem in that picture.
And yes, I have 19 Firefox instances running...

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[Q] Now if the Tablet Apps would catch up ...

I have an iPad2 and love it! Placed an order for E3T on Amazon .. my order is in but on the waiting list.
But I have learned one thing ... when it comes to tablets .. the key is APPS / APPS / APPS and APPS. You could have the fastest Tegra 22 Guzillion Ghz tablet ... but if there are no good apps ... its a FAIL.
So, here are some of my favorite iPad apps .. advice me on a similar or better alternative on the Android platform ...
- GoodReader
- Zite
- Tivo App
- Xfinity TV
- Note Taker HD
- Autocad WS
- houzz
- LoopNet
- Zillow.com
- Adobe Ideas
- Ameritrade App
- Bloomberg Businessweek
- Webex
Even though I ordered the E3T ... I suspect I am going to be sorely disappointed about the lack of apps on the Android platform. Yes, like they say ... the apps base will grow ... eventually ... but by then .. the E3T may become too dated.
What they (who would 'they' be) should do is to incentivize developers to build for the Android platform !
You have all the apps in the market. You don't need "tablet" apps like you do on iOS.
This explains it pretty well:
http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2011-03/03/tablet-android-apps
I'm coming from an iPad as well.. sold it to partially fund my Transformer.
I don't regret the move at all, but there are some apps and functions I miss from the iPad.
Netflix
Aweditorium
AirVideo - or something similar to stream movies off of a Windows share over Wifi.
I like having my phone (DroidX) and tablet both be Android. Just wish a few of the apps would catch up on the Android side. They'll get there, I'm sure.
JTallon4 said:
I'm coming from an iPad as well.. sold it to partially fund my Transformer.
I don't regret the move at all, but there are some apps and functions I miss from the iPad.
Netflix
Aweditorium
AirVideo - or something similar to stream movies off of a Windows share over Wifi.
I like having my phone (DroidX) and tablet both be Android. Just wish a few of the apps would catch up on the Android side. They'll get there, I'm sure.
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Regarding AirVideo,
I was just doing some research on this and apparently theres an app called Mirage that is compatible with Air Video Server on the desktop. Check it out...
JTallon4 said:
I'm coming from an iPad as well.. sold it to partially fund my Transformer.
I don't regret the move at all, but there are some apps and functions I miss from the iPad.
Netflix
Aweditorium
AirVideo - or something similar to stream movies off of a Windows share over Wifi.
I like having my phone (DroidX) and tablet both be Android. Just wish a few of the apps would catch up on the Android side. They'll get there, I'm sure.
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If you don't mind paying a little money, PlayOn TV works fairly well with Honeycomb (use it on my Xoom) and supports local video, Netflix, Hulu (doesn't need Hulu+), and a number of other video sources. Runs a server app on a Windows PC, then streams over wifi (including remote networks) and 3G.
It's not perfect (the Android interface lacks some features, such as scrubbing), but it works in a pinch. I have a feeling PlayOn will get their Android support fixed, and they're also optimizing for tablets.
Use cifs manager to connect to windows shares. The share is mounted on your sdcard, and all of your apps treat everything in the share as if it were on the SD card. Needs root. If you don't have root, try upnplay, use windows media player to stream over upnp.
pretty sure myNet detects shared drives
scion676 said:
Regarding AirVideo,
I was just doing some research on this and apparently theres an app called Mirage that is compatible with Air Video Server on the desktop. Check it out...
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Excellent! Thank you. Performance suffers on it some, at least with my files but its a Beta, so hopefully it will improve.
It at least works, which is more than anything else I've tried.
I'll try the other suggestions as well. Thanks, all!
Hakizi said:
You have all the apps in the market. You don't need "tablet" apps like you do on iOS.
This explains it pretty well:
http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2011-03/03/tablet-android-apps
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Android apps scale and look fine, but I'd like for more that take advantage of HC, and especially the increased resolution. You do need tablet apps to take advantage of the benefits of having a tablet.
Well the Asus Transformer has the following out of the box - no app download needed.
Polaris Office
Office Docs ->as well as Google Docs / Box.net connectivity. Works nicely
Asus Mynet
Basically lets you reach out and grab data from any DLNA device (Windows PC Windows Media, Mac, etc etc)
MyCloud
Allows for cloud support without having to download Dropbox (ALthough Dropbox works fine)
http://eee.asus.com/eeepad/
Social Networking apps Facebook, Twitter Int.
This is built in, you can sync contacts with Facebook, etc. Unfortunately Facebook STILL HAS NOT released an app for Facebook on the iPad, I have one of those too.
PressReader
Allows reading of tons of Newspapers and media items (built in, and still there are other apps that do this in the market and built to work fine with Honeycomb)
Add-On Apps
Sling TV
Works just fine on my Transformer and my Samsung Vibrant
Pulse News Reader
Reads all my websites and links to my Google Reader account.
Webex
Not to long ago released and works fine on the Transformer and my Android handset.
Stuff I wish were on Honeycomb
Flipboard
Netflix
Hulu
zinio
Thanks guys ... I will check out the apps. But the wait for the e3t continues.
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Webex
Not to long ago released and works fine on the Transformer
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Webex on the market says it's not compatible with the transformer. How did you get it to work?
1000's of apps work with honeycomb it was just steve jobs *****ing out of his asss just like he always does about any competitor.
It's lack rss feeder widgets that did it for me (although being an ipad user you wouldn't know what a widget is) what's an android widget
vulcan195 said:
Thanks guys ... I will check out the apps. But the wait for the e3t continues.
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What's the e3t? Lol
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I posted this on another thread, but relevant here so I thought i'd post it again. This is the unofficial 'official' list of Honeycomb-optimised apps compiled by a forum member over at Android Central. New apps are being added all the time...
http://forum.androidcentral.com/mot...al-optimized-honeycomb-apps-list-n-155-a.html
vulcan195 said:
I have an iPad2 and love it! Placed an order for E3T on Amazon .. my order is in but on the waiting list.
But I have learned one thing ... when it comes to tablets .. the key is APPS / APPS / APPS and APPS. You could have the fastest Tegra 22 Guzillion Ghz tablet ... but if there are no good apps ... its a FAIL.
So, here are some of my favorite iPad apps .. advice me on a similar or better alternative on the Android platform ...
- GoodReader
- Zite
- Tivo App
- Xfinity TV
- Note Taker HD
- Autocad WS
- houzz
- LoopNet
- Zillow.com
- Adobe Ideas
- Ameritrade App
- Bloomberg Businessweek
- Webex
Even though I ordered the E3T ... I suspect I am going to be sorely disappointed about the lack of apps on the Android platform. Yes, like they say ... the apps base will grow ... eventually ... but by then .. the E3T may become too dated.
What they (who would 'they' be) should do is to incentivize developers to build for the Android platform !
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IMHO if you're concerned about apps, I would wait. You already have an iPad 2 so technically you don't NEED another tablet. You're absolutely right, Apps are the key to unlocking the function and purpose of these things and as of now Honeycomb tablets are behind. People will tell you that Android apps scale well and that's true ~50% of the time in my experience.
As just a quick statistical example, I'm running 245 apps on my phone (including games, 728MB total), I'm running 119 apps on my tablet (267MB total) - not because I don't want them all, but because the rest either don't work (games don't port well from 2.2 to 3.0 at all, and by that I mean half of mine don't run) or don't scale well and show up in a phone sized portion of the screen. This is definitely due to honeycomb, as these same apps and games scaled wonderfully in Froyo to my GTablet.
So since you love the iPad 2, which is definitely more mature hardware and especially software-wise, I'd consider Honeycomb the Cupcake version of Android for Tablets - essentially the v.1 public beta test and either hold off or go in understanding exactly what you're getting.
I mean if you feel like this " ... I suspect I am going to be sorely disappointed about the lack of apps on the Android platform. Yes, like they say ... the apps base will grow ... eventually ... but by then .. the E3T may become too dated." right now then all you're going to do is be full of regret because yes, you will be disappointed, especially comparing it to the iPad 2. The apps will come there's 0 doubt in my mind about that, but you're exactly right by the time they do come in full force to match the entire market, the current batch of tabs will be 'stale'.
Unlike Apple hardware, Android hardware has to be on it's toes, there's a lot of competition in the market and each brand has to come out with something 'better' to attract buyers constantly. In the blink of an eye there will be triple and quad core cpu offerings, more RAM stuffed in, better screens, better cameras, more storage all for the same price that you're getting the current device at. That's the blessing (and curse?) of freedom and choice. With the iPad 2 you have something with excellent software-base but you're at the mercy of Apple to release new hardware and that's generally once a year.
So yeah, my point is that in the end you can either wait until Honeycomb has matured as Android for phones has, and THEN invest in a tablet and get apps to your hearts content (and have no regrets!) OR you can buy now and enjoy it for what it is. You may not get every app you get on the iPad 2 currently for it (which I can't see the point in, anyway) but you'll be getting a platform where many of the apps are free (ad supported), the hardware is better (faster and more powerful, at the very least) and where you're free to source your media from a variety of places, vs. just Apple and iTunes.
As for the apps themselves, I suggest you head to market.android.com and look up the names of those apps or their function, in order to help you find alternatives in case they aren't there.
Neoprimal said:
So since you love the iPad 2, which is definitely more mature hardware and especially software-wise, I'd consider Honeycomb the Cupcake version of Android for Tablets - essentially the v.1 public beta test and either hold off or go in understanding exactly what you're getting.
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While I understand the comparison, I think the difference here is that Android is now an accepted player in the market. When Cupcake came out, noone had a clue whether Google was going to be successful with their OS and so developers held off creating apps for it. I don't think the uptake will be so slow on the tablet front. Despite the relatively lacklustre sales of the early Android tablets, developers know that it will become popular down the line and the quicker they get their app onto the market, the better chance it will have to establish itself as the ________ app for Android tablets (fill in the blank here, Twitter, Facebook, Office etc). Honestly, I think it will be a matter of weeks rather than months before we start seeing Honeycomb-optimised apps in all the major categories.
It may make sense to wait for the quad-core tablets just around the corner, but by then they will have announced the octo(?)-core tablets coming in just a few short months and you will have to put off your purchase again. In technology there is always something better just around the corner...
husker91 said:
What's the e3t? Lol
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eee transformer (get it e3?)
yea, took me a sec to figure it out too, lol.
Anyone having issues with the xda app with their tablet? Mine FCs when I try to go to settings
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[Q] Is Splashtop HD fully functional?

Hey,
I am considering to buy myself the transformer with the dock and I was wondering, if it would then work as a "real" netbook if I use it in connection with Splashtop? Therefore I have some questions:
* Will all kinds of software (Microsoft Office, Eclipse IDE, etc.) work?
* Are the keyboard and the touchpad fully compatible? Or will I have to use some kind of virtual keyboard although the dock is plugged in?
* How will this affect the battery life?
* Will there be any interferences with surfing the web?
Thank You very much so far!
I had the same thought but I just went and did it.
Even though the asus transformer has an app that is a clone of Microsoft office (Polaris Office) Microsoft office will work.
The keyboard works fine with me. All that the keyboard does is replace the onscreen one, so it has to work.
It will have the same battery life as you would normally have while Wifi is turned on.
I personally noticed that it was a little laggy, but I have really bad internet.
Good luck sir
Thanks for the reply!
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The keyboard works fine with me. All that the keyboard does is replace the onscreen one, so it has to work.
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What's about the touchpad? Does is also work completely right? It think I read somewhere that using the right-click button causes Splashtop to terminate?
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I personally noticed that it was a little laggy, but I have really bad internet.
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How fast is/was your internet connection? How fast should it be?
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I really think that Asus TF together with its Dock are a great team, but I am afraid that it won't fulfill my expectations. Of course, I could buy me a netbook, but I also would like to have the ability to play around with a touch-screen
So honestly, how long have you had the TF (and how long have you used Splashtop) and do you think it is a "good" combination of a netbook and a tablet?
Right click will quit splashtop (it is back) but holding down left simulates right click. On my lan splashtop is almost like running windows locally. Over the net it is as good for most things as any other remote solution but somehow manages to stream video better than any others.
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* Will all kinds of software (Microsoft Office, Eclipse IDE, etc.) work?
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I have to ask this question, but you are aware that Splashtop is a remote desktop solution, and that in order for it to work you must have a PC or a Mac running somewhere on your network (or accessible from the internet), and it is this machine that actually runs your software?
The reason I ask is because you're asking if specific software works with Splashtop - in essence, the software on your "server" machine is immaterial to Splashtop because Splashtop is just a remote desktop.
Regards,
Dave
Hey Dave!
I fully understand that the software has to run on a normal OS and the "output" will be streamed to the TF. The thing is though, I am not sure if the 10 inch display can resize the images so far, that the software can be used productively.
So my question is how good can the display handle "intensive" applications which have a lot of screen elements. Is the small display able to scale it down properly?
When you run splashtop from the transformer, it automatically changes the screen resolution on the host computer to a size that will fit on the transformer screen perfectly (At least in my experience). Once you disconnect your computers screen resolution goes back to what it was set as.
You can choose the following screen resolutions:
800x600
1024x768
1280x720
Best fit to transformer
Native resolution(whatever you currently have set on your windows or mac comptuer)
In practice your primary concern should be the tablet -> mouse situation and having enough bandwidth for what you're doing.
The regular version that is bundled will also tend to disconnect when you go back or to another application, I assume so does the HD.
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One other thing to note is that when you are using the trackpad on the dock, you get the android mouse plus you get the mouse on the computers desktop. The mouse of the computers desktop follows the android mouse around, with a little bit of lag (if you aren't on the same network).
As mentioned above, the right click button on the dock still does act as the back button, exiting the application. Tapping and holding is the way to make a right-click action happen on the host computer.
If standard RDP is an option (if you have a VPN or something), the 2X RDP app works wonderfully with the transformer keyboard dock and trackpad. It actually allows you to use the right-click liek you normally would - it's JUST like sitting in front of a PC....
Like I said though, this is just plain RDP - will not work via the internet without a VPN.... ALso, not good for things like video, etc.....

New to Transformer, thoughts

I have/had:
* the Ipad 1 32gb
* Motorola Xoom (returned)
* HP touchpad (sold after 2 months after alpha3 crap)
and now the transformer.
1st things first, this is the best of the android tablets.
I thought the HP alpha 3 made a good attempt, but it's nowhere in the realm of the xoom/transformer. The transformer seems almost a clone from the xoom, but with the keyboard dock, just is cooler to lug around. Plus the extras asus has done has helped a bit.
Main complaints.
Email, especially handling multiple accounts.
Web, browser is crap, with keyboard, even more.
weight. awkward weight distribution. I can hold the ipad in widescreen format with one hand, but this feels really unnatural with the asus.
Advantages vs Ipad
styling, keyboard dock style, rear camera, flash, widgets.
Minor complaints
Not really great software available for it yet.
Keyboard dock touchpad is too sensitive. I can't ever finish typing a long url without it going bezerk on me. Also, while android is good at freeing up memory, it does not appear as efficient as IOS5. When i run an app on ASUS that is running slowly, i have to go out and run a task manager to clean up the garbage to speed up the app. I never have to do this with IOS even when i have tons of things running.
Ipad advantages:
when i want to surf the web, i prefer the iPad. most sites now have html5 versions and those versions are usually faster loading and smoother than the flash ones for ASUS. For emailing, i prefer it's built in email to android gmail. This is strange considering i only use gmail. But Ipad apps have very intuitive ways for multiple accounts. whether for facebook or email, the multi user integration is just smoother on ipad.
For games like word with friends, it plays it vertically while the tablet one on ASUS is horizontal with smaller letters. There is also the fact that there are many many more apps i still use, like dragon lords, that i had used freely on my old iphone and they still won't make for android.
So for now, I find I prefer the Old ipad for surfing and emailing. And i'm basically using the ASUS for gaming.
ANyone else have an ipad and asus? what are your thoughts?
2 things. third-party browser, thumb keyboards.
as for the weight I hold it in one hand in landscape and portrait with no problem. maybe because I have big hand.
K9 email, free
Kaiten email, nicer multi-pane view, looks good on tablets
Neither do Exchange
Opera mobile or Dolphin HD browsers, much nicer. There's even a Firefox. And quite a few other alternative ones on the market. Opera mini is great for a phone as it saves tons of bandwidth with its pre-rendered approach.
Root your tablet and get the V6 Supercharger script. Here on XDA. Find the thread, go to first post and download the latest beta. Makes a huge difference to the way the memory management behaves.
Now that you're rooted consider a custom ROM.
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I "thanked" you both for your posts.
I want to make this my primary tablet.
I just got the facebook and ebay updates and was dissapointed to see it not be tablet sized like the ipad one.
I will try the other browsers. I've been trying the firefox and firefox beta and really don't like em much.
thanks.
orateam said:
Main complaints.
Email, especially handling multiple accounts.
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orateam said:
For emailing, i prefer it's built in email to android gmail. This is strange considering i only use gmail. But Ipad apps have very intuitive ways for multiple accounts. whether for facebook or email, the multi user integration is just smoother on ipad.
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What in particular? You switch accounts at the top-left part of the screen. I've never used an iPad though, so I don't know how "intuitive" it apparently is.
orateam said:
Web, browser is crap, with keyboard, even more.
weight. awkward weight distribution. I can hold the ipad in widescreen format with one hand, but this feels really unnatural with the asus.
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No such thing as widescreen on an iPad.
orateam said:
Minor complaints
Not really great software available for it yet.
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You're either not looking hard enough, or not in the right place. Check out http://tablified.com for some good applications designed for Android tablets. And any app in the Android Market will work (that's hundreds of thousands of apps) on a tablet, it just might not be optimized for it yet.
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Keyboard dock touchpad is too sensitive. I can't ever finish typing a long url without it going bezerk on me.
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It's a common trait with ASUS laptop/netbook keyboards, unfortunately. There's a handy button to disable the trackpad on the keyboard, the fourth key (from the left) on the top row. Use it and love it.
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Also, while android is good at freeing up memory, it does not appear as efficient as IOS5. When i run an app on ASUS that is running slowly, i have to go out and run a task manager to clean up the garbage to speed up the app. I never have to do this with IOS even when i have tons of things running.
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That's because iOS doesn't actually manage memory. Your programs aren't running in the background, they just get push services to make them appear like they're running. The apps actually close and restart (think about how a computer hibernates) with your old data still intact.
Android has true multitasking, which means apps are alive and running. It costs a little bit in memory, but modern Android devices have quite a bit of memory to use. If you root your tablet, you'll discover it's much easier to keep things in order, task managers in the Android market can't actually kill apps without root.
orateam said:
Ipad advantages:
when i want to surf the web, i prefer the iPad. most sites now have html5 versions and those versions are usually faster loading and smoother than the flash ones for ASUS.
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You know you can turn flash off, or set it to load on click? Change the Enable Plug-ins setting in the Advanced settings on the browser.
orateam said:
For games like word with friends, it plays it vertically while the tablet one on ASUS is horizontal with smaller letters. There is also the fact that there are many many more apps i still use, like dragon lords, that i had used freely on my old iphone and they still won't make for android.
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You know that you can actually contact developers and ask them to add features (like portrait mode, or auto-rotate, on WWF) or port their app for Android? Some developers will choose to do this if they see users asking for it, otherwise they think people [on Android] are fine without their app.
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What in particular? You switch accounts at the top-left part of the screen. I've never used an iPad though, so I don't know how "intuitive" it apparently is.
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Yes, the gmail app does it nicely. But only for gmail email accounts. If the regular email program, which can handle multiple accounts like yahoo and work would work the same way, would be better. quick question here. In gmail, like ipad mail, there are 2 views: folder view and browse view. In folder view, you see your email folders (most only look at inbox) with only subjects and brief text on the right hand side. In browse mode, you see your email on the left with the full email with images on the right. When i'm in gmail and in browse mode and delete an email, it pops me out to folder mode. do you know any way to stay in browse mode? That's what i'm used to.
No such thing as widescreen on an iPad.
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sure there is. it's just not as wide, but there is a landscape on it. It seems weighted to allow me to hold it in landscape mode with one hand. This is how i hold it.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
You're either not looking hard enough, or not in the right place. Check out http://tablified.com for some good applications designed for Android tablets. And any app in the Android Market will work (that's hundreds of thousands of apps) on a tablet, it just might not be optimized for it yet.
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Thanks, i'll try this
It's a common trait with ASUS laptop/netbook keyboards, unfortunately. There's a handy button to disable the trackpad on the keyboard, the fourth key (from the left) on the top row. Use it and love it.
That's because iOS doesn't actually manage memory. Your programs aren't running in the background, they just get push services to make them appear like they're running. The apps actually close and restart (think about how a computer hibernates) with your old data still intact.
Android has true multitasking, which means apps are alive and running. It costs a little bit in memory, but modern Android devices have quite a bit of memory to use. If you root your tablet, you'll discover it's much easier to keep things in order, task managers in the Android market can't actually kill apps without root.
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That explains the performance issues a little. But when my now aincient Ipad seems crisper regardless of how many apps are 'running', it does show that android needs a bit better memory management. Perhaps not really mutli tasking like ipad does.
You know you can turn flash off, or set it to load on click? Change the Enable Plug-ins setting in the Advanced settings on the browser.
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Havent' had any luck with this. I turned it off, but it didnt load the html5 version. Perhaps the stock browswer doesn't come with html 5? when i go to some of my fav sites like http://www.theonion.com on my old ipad, it loads up quickly and the page is super smooth. it's completely html5. when i load it on the ASUS, its flash, even when i turn off the plugins, and loads up with tons of ads that slow the page to hell.
You know that you can actually contact developers and ask them to add features (like portrait mode, or auto-rotate, on WWF) or port their app for Android? Some developers will choose to do this if they see users asking for it, otherwise they think people [on Android] are fine without their app.
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thanks again, i will do that more.
orateam said:
Yes, the gmail app does it nicely. But only for gmail email accounts. If the regular email program, which can handle multiple accounts like yahoo and work would work the same way, would be better. quick question here. In gmail, like ipad mail, there are 2 views: folder view and browse view. In folder view, you see your email folders (most only look at inbox) with only subjects and brief text on the right hand side. In browse mode, you see your email on the left with the full email with images on the right. When i'm in gmail and in browse mode and delete an email, it pops me out to folder mode. do you know any way to stay in browse mode? That's what i'm used to.
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Looking in the Gmail settings, go to General preferences and then change the Auto-advance settings. Choose either to go to a Newer or Older conversation to stay in the Browse mode, setting Conversation List kicks you back to folder view.
I'm sorry to say I've never used the built-in email program since Android 2.x, when it got support for multiple Gmail addresses. So I have no idea how it works now, I suspect its drastically different than what I would be used to. Sorry.
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That explains the performance issues a little. But when my now aincient Ipad seems crisper regardless of how many apps are 'running', it does show that android needs a bit better memory management. Perhaps not really mutli tasking like ipad does.
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It's possible that ICS will resolve some of this, as it has a built-in task manager. Honeycomb is still a bit buggy, though, so this could be influenced by its bugginess.
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Havent' had any luck with this. I turned it off, but it didnt load the html5 version. Perhaps the stock browswer doesn't come with html 5? when i go to some of my fav sites like http://www.theonion.com on my old ipad, it loads up quickly and the page is super smooth. it's completely html5. when i load it on the ASUS, its flash, even when i turn off the plugins, and loads up with tons of ads that slow the page to hell.
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It's because the sites aren't loading different versions depending on whether or not you have flash. They're loading different versions depending on the user-agent that the browser displays.
I don't know whether anyone has modded the stock browser to do it yet, but I know that Dolphin Browser HD can change its user-agent string to the iPad version. It's possible that the Cyanogenmod team will do this for Cyanogenmod 9, but that would require rooting your tablet to do.
Welcome to android, where you are not forced to use a specific app for a specific function. We have tons of choices for everything you have been talking about. Browsers, task killers, mail programs, roms, kernels, etc....the choices and combinations are vast.
Also, it really bugs me when people say that the ipad multitasks or that apps are "running" in the background... They aren't, the ipad doesn't mt, they just developed yet another clever trick in fooling people, kinda like how they handle force closes... Sneaky sneaky apple. All crap aside, the ipad is a nice piece of equipment, but with android we have options...start using them if you want to unleash the true potential of these devices.
Try k9 mail program, I have several emails accounts I use for my business,i practically run my company from my email. when I first left apple for android,i noticed the stock email was pretty bad compared to the one on iphone 4. so I started looking around and after a day or so I found k9... Best email ever, better than ios and that says alot... Ios did their email good imo. Check it out, its a sweet app.
I like dolphin browser and opera, I use firefox on occasion.
I run revolver rom with clemsyn kernel, if you haven't rootes and flashed a custom rom, then you have not experienced what this tablet can do, it really turns it into another beast all together.
I hope you can make it work for you, it really is a fantastic tablet, and its strengths lay with the fact that you can change everything to how you want it.
Ps. I have owned an ipad1 and ipad2... The ipad 2 I bought for one of my techs...all my technicians use tablets for work... And when I let him go (fired) I kept it for a week or so to play with it, then I gave it to a friend. I prefer the versatility of android over apple. When people ask me about android vs apple,i sum it into one statement. "if you want a device that simply works well without to much fiddling around, grab an apple, but if you want a device that can be great, easily customized with some work then go for android." Everything I could do on an idevice I can do on my android devices... And then some. maybe not right out of the box, but there is a replacement for everything. In my experience, android does most things better and a few things worse than ios.
Sent from my Infuse... Love it!
so for the keyboard dock giving you issues when you are typing, you can turn off the touchpad by pressing the 4th button along the top row that looks like a touchpad with a line going across it. that way when you type, it wont click anywhere.
really great that asus put that button there
and as far as sensitivity, if i go into settings --> language & input, i can scroll down and theres a mouses and trackpad setting where i can change the pointer speed.
hope that helps you out with the dock
im running the latest revolver rom btw.
i havent used any of the other products on your list but i know that when people use my transformer and they come from galaxy tabs, ipads, or any other tablets, they are absolutely in love.
just bought it this black friday on sale and its alot more useful than i thought it was going to be :]
Opera Mobile is a full grown up browser and totally smokes both the built in Android and built in Apple browser.
Try it... It's really 5x quicker at most things, more HTML5 compliant.
It's worth also playing with the desktop/tablet settings in Opera Mobile, see which setting suits the sites you visit.
You might also try Opera Mini, but it's not really the same, it's designed for really bandwidth limited browsing.
I second opera mobile. Ive gone from stock to firefox to dolphin and I find opera to work the best for me
sounds like no votes for Google's browser or emailer program. Don't you think they should put more emphasis on getting those right instead of forcing people to pay for a better browser and emailer?
I've tried some of your suggestions, and will try more, but i'm finding i'm using the Asus less and less now. Still too slow on browser for my liking and that is what most tablets are used for.
I'm hoping that dolphin browser i have yet to use will be the trick pony.
You're screwed, it's going to be the same fundimental engine as the stock.
Oddly, the only time I find my TF (with Opera) too slow is if I don't already have it in hand. At work, it's practically the only way to get a decent browser speed because it's on a different (and much less croweded) network.
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[Q] Tun.ko question

Running a TF101 with kernel 2.6.39.4 [email protected] #1 and Android 4.0.3. I recently installed Droid VPN and got it to connect just fine. Worked like a champ to use my netflix app from Kuwait. Before I would get the error "Not allowed in your country" now it loads just fine. Minus the fact its slow as ****. But that's another story. My question is, after installation of Droid VPN I cannot get my Splashtop HD to work like it use to. It would stream my desktop in real time to my Asus Transformer. Now it seems that it has about a 30 second delay and its only like one or two frames then off for another 30 seconds. Would the installation of Droid VPN have caused this? Also, I cannot find the Tun.ko file in my /lib/modules/ anywhere or even in the /lib/. Do i need to get one? Or does the transformer support it natively?
EDIT: Ok, after an hour of reading, its supported natively in ICS. So since it is supported, I have no need for a Tun.ko file. What could have caused my Splashtop HD issue?
What I have done to troubleshoot:
Turned off QOS on the router
Uninstalled Droid VPN from the Transformer
Rebooted Device
hey off topic sorry. but I had never heard of splash top. is it that great? I've tried xtralogic and teamviewer. both work. how's splash top in your opinion
The Droid VPN may have changed some network settings splashtop needs to function properly, it is a rather unique remote desktop app, not 100% sure though, if uninstalling it worked then great!
As to the above, splashtop is the best in my opinion, it has an amazing framerate, if you can get past some of the annoying bugs. Look it up xD
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hey off topic sorry. but I had never heard of splash top. is it that great? I've tried xtralogic and teamviewer. both work. how's splash top in your opinion
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Its by far the fastest remote desktop app without sacrificing quality.
For example watching a 1080p video running on your PC through splashtop is no problem, it displays in perfect sync without any stutter.
Gaming is no problem either, except you cant play in full-screen. You have to set the game to window mode.
I do, however, miss a pinch-to-zoom feature. Running a windows desktop on a 10" screen makes it a little hard to click on small areas (If you use the touchscreen, obviously).
Do note, however, that your PC needs to be quite powerful for the best experience. Its quite CPU heavy. I got a Hexa-core though so Im good
The old asus mycloud version has pinch to zoom, and they're thinking about rereleasing it.. I actually use two splashtops, one for gaming and one for browsing and coding. The old mycloud version I use for browsing and coding as it supports holding down keys to send multiple keystrokes, and pinch-to-zoom. I use the newest one in the market for gaming as it FINALLY released mouse detection, so I can plug in a usb mouse or use the trackpad and it follows pretty reasonably, but they broke multiple keystrokes again so its annoying to type + impossible to play fps with.. still..
Also, 6 cores? What processor do you have to have 6, standard is 1 2 4 8 etc.. I'm guessing refurbed AMD or weird AMD?
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Also, 6 cores? What processor do you have to have 6, standard is 1 2 4 8 etc.. I'm guessing refurbed AMD or weird AMD?
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Actually standard is 1 2 4 6 8 ...
Its an AMD Phenom X6 1100T running at 3.9Ghz/core.

[Q] With a tablet like the TF300T and Dock, what software is missing...

I am a software developer, and have been creating Android apps for businesses since 2008. Up until recently all of the apps I have created have been for businesses to serve specific needs.
When I recently bought my TF300T I quickly wanted to start leaving the laptop home, but there are just a few things left I still cannot do on Android.
So my question to you is, what would you like to be able to do in Android that you cannot yet do?
I'd like to see a word processor that supports features such as: multiple columns, page numbering, a ruler, fonts, spacing, margins, multiple paper sizes, printing directly to a wireless or shared printer etc.
Some of these features are available for various Office suite word processors, but I have yet to find one that supports them all. It's getting better, but we're not there yet.
A robust office suite, really, is the only thing that's missing for me.
Google bought quickoffice, so I hope to see a Drive/office hybrid. MS is also working on office for android tablets afaik.
So office apps might not be the best choice as a software dev.
Has someone made a nice music player app that takes advantage of the tablet screen? Basically multiple frames so you can see what's playing (with basic controls) on one side of the screen, and be able scroll through your playlist or music directory on the other side of the screen.
Something like that with pop up windows (or frames) for additional features (like an Equalizer) would be pretty nice.
Actually not sure if the TF300 has a good music player, as I haven't received mine yet, but on my other tablet, everything I've found seems to be made for phones, and I hate having to cycle through different screens just to browse the playlist
I really want an app that synchronises handwritten note taking with audio, like the echo smartpen does. Then I could use it in meetings really effectively.
I think there is an ipad app that does this (grr...) but nothing for Android
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Has someone made a nice music player app that takes advantage of the tablet screen? Basically multiple frames so you can see what's playing (with basic controls) on one side of the screen, and be able scroll through your playlist or music directory on the other side of the screen.
Something like that with pop up windows (or frames) for additional features (like an Equalizer) would be pretty nice.
Actually not sure if the TF300 has a good music player, as I haven't received mine yet, but on my other tablet, everything I've found seems to be made for phones, and I hate having to cycle through different screens just to browse the playlist
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Google Play Music, which comes on the tablet, is tablet-optimized. The tablet also comes with MusicFX, which is an equalizer, and it integrates with Play Music.
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Google Play Music, which comes on the tablet, is tablet-optimized. The tablet also comes with MusicFX, which is an equalizer, and it integrates with Play Music.
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I'd hardly call Google Music tablet optimized, it scales well but doesnt use space very efficiently.
This is the only one I know of, but its really ugly
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...jects.musicplayerforpad&feature=search_result
But yeah, I'd also like to see a better office editor. Quickoffice is a little too light on features to be taken seriously for more than minor edits.
The docks USB port does not recognize my camera and I do not like the way the tablet just puts your pictures in one big conglomeration. I would like a tablet that recognizes any digital camera and places your photos into files by date like a PC does. I use the tablet for work and I have to upload photos to my reports and then send the reports to my office. I have been able to type reports but it takes so many steps to get pictures from my camera into the tablet and then load them onto my reports that I am not able to do my reports quickly unless I am at home at my compute doing them.
I would love to get my hands on an Android clone of the airsketch app another teacher in my building has for his ipad.
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I would like to have an app was functionally similar to Quicken. Personal financial tracking that was not web based. I have to carry a netbook to get that currently.
Mike
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Biggest problem with Android apps right now is they aren't optimized for tablets. Most of the apps are designed for phones.
Yeah, but that should change as tablets get cheaper and more popular.
I would like at least a word processor (if not a whole office suite) That;
1: Had all but the most advanced of a PC's word processors features such as full formatting, the ability to add fonts, full text options; the whole nine yards.
2: It having a nice ICS tablet layout. Not a clunky phone UI that has the features but not the layout to be of any use.
3: Full usb (or our dock) and bluetooth keyboard support with hotkeys and shortcuts (ie: Ctrl+V for paste etc etc...)
4: A supportive dev who would listen to community input and have a way to contact them easily where the other members of the community could also see the discussion (ie: a forums).
If you actually intend to do this (I REALLLLLLLY hope you do, its sorely needed) then I myself will plan on donating to the projects development as it goes along.
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SilentStormer said:
I would like at least a word processor (if not a whole office suite) That;
1: Had all but the most advanced of a PC's word processors features such as full formatting, the ability to add fonts, full text options; the whole nine yards.
2: It having a nice ICS tablet layout. Not a clunky phone UI that has the features but not the layout to be of any use.
3: Full usb (or our dock) and bluetooth keyboard support with hotkeys and shortcuts (ie: Ctrl+V for paste etc etc...)
4: A supportive dev who would listen to community input and have a way to contact them easily where the other members of the community could also see the discussion (ie: a forums).
If you actually intend to do this (I REALLLLLLLY hope you do, its sorely needed) then I myself will plan on donating to the projects development as it goes along.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF300T
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Right now I am putting the finishing touches on a project I hope to release this coming week sometime. It will be a tool specifically for Tablets and geared towards software developers mostly.
I am responding to you because the app I am about to release does support all of the typical hotkeys like Ctrl-V etc.
The biggest problem with creating an office suite for tablets is supporting all of the various file types that are out there (Office 2000/2003/2007 etc.) If it was just a matter of supporting one file type, and having the ability to import/convert from/to the other file types than it would be much easier. The problem is that would add an extra step for users to deal with.
I also think that Google will be releasing a very nice Office Suite for Android very soon. I think with the push for Chrome OS, and the already stated fact that Google plans to merge Chrome OS into Android points to that even more.
sgrant said:
Right now I am putting the finishing touches on a project I hope to release this coming week sometime. It will be a tool specifically for Tablets and geared towards software developers mostly.
I am responding to you because the app I am about to release does support all of the typical hotkeys like Ctrl-V etc.
The biggest problem with creating an office suite for tablets is supporting all of the various file types that are out there (Office 2000/2003/2007 etc.) If it was just a matter of supporting one file type, and having the ability to import/convert from/to the other file types than it would be much easier. The problem is that would add an extra step for users to deal with.
I also think that Google will be releasing a very nice Office Suite for Android very soon. I think with the push for Chrome OS, and the already stated fact that Google plans to merge Chrome OS into Android points to that even more.
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Yeah, Im excited for whatever Google has up it's sleeve. (maybe a built-in office suite in jelly bean? )
sounds like an interesting app and Ill be sure and give it a try!
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some apps require sd card to work (like this one or this one), because they put the data on sd card, so i want an app that have the abiltiy to use the internal memory as an "virtual sd card",
i know sd cards are not expensive, but i just feel like it's not necessary to use a sd card while there's still a lot of space on my device (like this one has 32 GB) and sometimes you forget your sd card or because of whatever reason you don't want to use your sd card.
so an app like that would be very useful (at least for me, i really need it )
i'd also like to see the list of apps you've created
I would like a virtual server running.
I have a particular need and idea to get some of my phone apps working on the tablet.
My idea is to create a virtual space something like Stick It! or Super Video, those app allow you to open a window and play your videos inside a hovering and movable window.
I took a measurement, and since owning an Asus TF300T with the keyboard dock, my tablet is mostly in landscape mode .
In landscape mode I can fit 3 windows of virtual space (or however you want to call it technically) of my phone in portrait mode.
So the apps on my phone where the developer is; for whatever reason, not interested in making those apps tablet ready, I can run those apps and see them the way they would look on the phone.
Because of the space that I measured, I can run 3 portrait phone apps at once. And just tap to switch between windows.
Does this sound like something that would benefit users?
Thanks
Rob
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pepperonihead said:
The docks USB port does not recognize my camera and I do not like the way the tablet just puts your pictures in one big conglomeration. I would like a tablet that recognizes any digital camera and places your photos into files by date like a PC does. I use the tablet for work and I have to upload photos to my reports and then send the reports to my office. I have been able to type reports but it takes so many steps to get pictures from my camera into the tablet and then load them onto my reports that I am not able to do my reports quickly unless I am at home at my compute doing them.
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There's a few apps I can think of off the top of my head. A gallery, a calculator & an app that brings all your social feeds together.
For the gallery, I'd like something similar to the stock gallery app except with the option to view it in list or folder view or something similar. Sorting options like sort by name, type etc and the ability to flick through them in that order would be good too.
For the calculator, heaps of buttons on the screen would be nice, and maybe they could be scrollable to reveal more buttons. Right now most calculators are just simple calculators with giant buttons lol. I'd really appreciate a scientific or graphic calculator on Android.
I'm also yet to find a decent tablet app that brings all your social feeds together. Something like the desktop Tweetdeck where you can have multiple panes would be great plus the ability to view profiles, messages, notifications etc.
I'd be willing to pay for any of these as long as their recently priced. (Not gonna pay $20 for a gallery lol)
If any of these are already on the market a reply or link would be appreciated lol, maybe I'm not digging hard enough.
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rlanza1054 said:
I would like a virtual server running.
I have a particular need and idea to get some of my phone apps working on the tablet.
My idea is to create a virtual space something like Stick It! or Super Video, those app allow you to open a window and play your videos inside a hovering and movable window.
I took a measurement, and since owning an Asus TF300T with the keyboard dock, my tablet is mostly in landscape mode .
In landscape mode I can fit 3 windows of virtual space (or however you want to call it technically) of my phone in portrait mode.
So the apps on my phone where the developer is; for whatever reason, not interested in making those apps tablet ready, I can run those apps and see them the way they would look on the phone.
Because of the space that I measured, I can run 3 portrait phone apps at once. And just tap to switch between windows.
Does this sound like something that would benefit users?
Thanks
Rob
Sent from my SPH-D710 using Tapatalk 2
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Sorry for double post but I'd love something like this. Like multitasking with 3 vertical apps running in phone mode would be beautiful. Maybe not a virtual server (do you mean online?), but just running an app in a phone version rather than tablet. That way we could have apps like Launcher 7 etc run on tabs. Or maybe have 2/3 of the screen having a browser and the other 1/3 of space occupying a phone app. Great idea man.
It would seem pretty hard to code or implement though.
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