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Ive installed the manual ASUS update and this has now given me the MyCloud stuff.
I have 2 PCs i want to be able to access. I have downloaded the client App from www.splashtopremote.com and installed it.
One PC is now found but it shows on a horrible resolution and i can only see about a quarter of the screen. The other desktop it cant even find ???
Should I have installed specific ASUS client software ? i couldnt find any ....
oh... for info the one it cant find is Win 7 64 bit if that makes a difference ?
If both pc's are on the same network open up the Splashtop remote streamer on your pc and check under Network and make sure they are set to different port numbers from eachother.
There is a resolution setting in the Splashtop client. By default I beliefve it was 1024x768 you can change it to 1280x800. Also at default it's slightly zoomed out so that's why it looks blurry.
I'm pretty sure that's just how it works and while seeing my 1920x1200 monitor shrink down to 1200x800 made me a little sad, it's really supposed to be about what's on the transformer screen, not your monitor.
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donatom3 said:
If both pc's are on the same network open up the Splashtop remote streamer on your pc and check under Network and make sure they are set to different port numbers from eachother.
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You shouldn't need different port numbers on physically different machines.
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You shouldn't need different port numbers on physically different machines.
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If he plans to setup port forwarding later for wan access it's easier since not all routers support port translation. But you're right he should be able to manually add the second machine even with the same port.
i tried changing the ports on one.
i tried manually setting up the connection in the setup.
still saying 'could not reach'
....and the resolution is awful. not even close. showing the top left quarter of the expected screen only. i cant find anywhere to change the resolution ???
where should i have got the desktop client from ?
.....plus my 'touch' is way off .... eg in drop downs i have to press about 5 items higher than the one i need.
Ive done something very wrong obviously
Am on a mac, it works but only lets me use the 1024x768 setting and not the native 1280x800
any ideas?
i cant even find anywhere to change the resolution as im accessing it through the ASUS mycloud app
scratch that ... found the settings behing the keyboard
In MyCloud settings hit the pencil to the right of your computer and change the setting to 1200x800. Then connect and your monitor should switch to 1200x800 which is meh looking, but the way it looks on your transformer is all that really mattered to the developers of Splashtop IMO. Kinda makes sense
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OK so i now have more of my desktop showing but i still cant see the windows bar (at the bottom) and my finger press i a long way away from where i want to press.
The PC im trying to control is outputting via HDMI to an HD TV if that would make any difference ??
....and it still wont fing the other PC
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OK so i now have more of my desktop showing but i still cant see the windows bar (at the bottom) and my finger press i a long way away from where i want to press.
The PC im trying to control is outputting via HDMI to an HD TV if that would make any difference ??
....and it still wont fing the other PC
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Not related to splashtop but are you able to use computer one and use remote desktop to connect to computer two?
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Make sure the other machine's firewall isn't blocking Splashtop from being seen on the network. That's quite likely to be your issue.
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i cant even find anywhere to change the resolution as im accessing it through the ASUS mycloud app
scratch that ... found the settings behing the keyboard
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are those setting on the tablet or on the computer desktop?
Never mind. Found it Thanks
Please help
Just got my Transformer but can't find MyCloud and there is no update ...
so i went to the asus support website and try to install the update manually....
but nothing comes out and still don't know what to do......
i guess i installed the wrong update?? did you install it from their support website? i don't really know how to do that actually
if you could help me that would be really appreciated.
Thanks.
Anybody know if there's a way to update the bundled apps? For example, Splashtop Remote is quite a long way out of date -- the included version from Asus is v1.0.0.5 r5324, but v1.1.5.2 came out on April 12th, 11 days before the build date of the latest Transformer release, and there was another release in between, so the version we've got is around two months out of date.
Of course, since we didn't install ourselves through Market, there's no way to update there. I can't find a way to update in the app itself. I've not checked the other bundled apps, but it seems likely they're not all on the current versions either.
To me, this is a big issue (and an argument against bundling software in the first place, unless we can upgrade ourselves). For example the latest Splashtop release is said to fix bugs, and the 1.1.4.1 release in between times had an even longer list of changes (although some seem to be in our 1.0.0.5 build, curiously.)
Edit: I've gone ahead and asked the question of Splashtop directly, too.
Knox,
We probably are only licensed for whatever version Asus gives us. Plus the market version doesnt' let you go above 1024x768 where the one on the Transformer does 1280x800
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donatom3 said:
Knox,
We probably are only licensed for whatever version Asus gives us. Plus the market version doesnt' let you go above 1024x768 where the one on the Transformer does 1280x800
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I'm hoping that's not the answer, because if it is, it's a strong argument against pre-installing third party apps in the first place. I don't want buggy software on my tablet, and have concerns about potential security risks in not being able to control software myself, as well. If this *is* the answer, it'd be nice if Asus would consider releasing another version of the rom image with all the third-party stuff removed, and let users switch back and forth between the two rom types as they want.
Interesting catch that the Asus version supports resolutions that the retail one doesn't. I see a bunch of people asking for that in Splashtop's forums, wonder why on earth they haven't publicly released it if it was possible in software as long ago as 1.0.0.5? (And it's also possible in iOS versions).
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I'm hoping that's not the answer, because if it is, it's a strong argument against pre-installing third party apps in the first place. I don't want buggy software on my tablet, and have concerns about potential security risks in not being able to control software myself, as well. If this *is* the answer, it'd be nice if Asus would consider releasing another version of the rom image with all the third-party stuff removed, and let users switch back and forth between the two rom types as they want.
Interesting catch that the Asus version supports resolutions that the retail one doesn't. I see a bunch of people asking for that in Splashtop's forums, wonder why on earth they haven't publicly released it if it was possible in software as long ago as 1.0.0.5? (And it's also possible in iOS versions).
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You know you can install splashtop remote and it doesn't interfere with the pre installed one.
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donatom3 said:
You know you can install splashtop remote and it doesn't interfere with the pre installed one.
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Hadn't tried it, as I was scared I'd pay for it and then find out it conflicted. It was going to be my next question if they said there's no way to update. ;-)
[Q] Splashtop remote login problem
Can anyone suggest a way to get around this problem please?
I would like to use splashtop to start up and shut down my pc remotely. I use a login password (windows default one) on the machine in question. The problem is that when I wake the pc remotely using 'WOL Wake on Lan' app, I can't type in the password on the remote machine, as the splashtop software doesnt allow access that early in the boot sequence.
I don't want to have to disable this password login, so can anyone think of a way to get around this? Maybe there is a way to use Tasker to send a remote password command? Is there another remote desktop client that would allow me to see the login screen?
I've tried 'Remote Desktop Client' app, which allows me to access the machine (its not nearly as good as splashtop at streaming video), but it bypasses the login screen, and when I try to switch to splashtop, all it shows is a black screen when connected.
Any help is appreciated. Thanks.
Splashtop non-free, 0.99 today
seems to be a patterns with me. i buy an app at full price, then a few days later, it becomes heavily discounted, or (via amazon) free.
anyway, the afaik, the spalshtop that comes with the TF is the free version, with the 5 minute limit.
the non-free one is current at $0.99 in the market. the description says "on sale for 1.99" but the price is actually 0.99. maybe it's an oversight
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anyway, the afaik, the spalshtop that comes with the TF is the free version, with the 5 minute limit.
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No its not, its the full version. Yours isn't working because you haven't fully uninstalled a trial or another copy of it. Its pointless buying it again.
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No its not, its the full version. Yours isn't working because you haven't fully uninstalled a trial or another copy of it. Its pointless buying it again.
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Not a bad deal if you want it on your phone
Speaking of which, does anyone know how to start up the Asus Splashtop without jumping through three screens of "WELCOME" text?
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Speaking of which, does anyone know how to start up the Asus Splashtop without jumping through three screens of "WELCOME" text?
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Second this question. I think this only happens if you back out of splashtop with the back soft-key, if you just press home or something you don't get it, usually, I think...
How can I install again if uninstalled the AT version the first time? I can't find again...
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No its not, its the full version. Yours isn't working because you haven't fully uninstalled a trial or another copy of it. Its pointless buying it again.
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what? i never installed splashtop at all, i was just using the one that came with my TF. i feel even more ripped off now :/
I don't need a signature.
To those who actually bought Splashtop, go to your devices menu (on the Transformer), then go to edit, and see what the highest resolution you can set it to.
The built in Asus Splashtop can support up to 1280x800 resolution (of your pc).
I know someone with a Xoom who bought Splashtop and his doesn't get an option of 1280x800, only 1024x768.... LOL
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To those who actually bought Splashtop, go to your devices menu (on the Transformer), then go to edit, and see what the highest resolution you can set it to.
The built in Asus Splashtop can support up to 1280x800 resolution (of your pc).
I know someone with a Xoom who bought Splashtop and his doesn't get an option of 1280x800, only 1024x768.... LOL
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Yeah, I actually bought the market version to compare it against the mycloud one, but I refunded it due to the resolution capping at 1024x768 even though it was a newer version number than what we got with the Transformer.
I know this is a little off topic but does the Asus version of splashtop support mac 10.6?
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Just bought splashtop hd and configured access to my desktop from outside. Its almost like sitting in front of the pc. And the cool thing is the keyboard dock totally works. I was also able to watch a hd movie from netflix. But since my desktop is connected to a hdmi receiver, I have to have the receiver on the correct channel all the time for audio to come through
i agree, splashtop HD is awesome, i connected it to my htpc and i can use xbmc to watch anything i want from it.
adiliyo said:
i agree, splashtop HD is awesome, i connected it to my htpc and i can use xbmc to watch anything i want from it.
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I want to buy it as well but I understand it only works if your TF is connected to the same WiFi network as your PC is... if that's the case, it means you need to be close to your PC...
This would be perfect if you can connect to your PC from anywhere!
liorry said:
This would be perfect if you can connect to your PC from anywhere!
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You can - you just need to do some work with port forwarding on your router.
In addition, Splashtop are testing an auto-discovery system (much like PocketCloud) which will make this much easier in future, but unfortunately only the iOS clients support it at present.
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Dave
Do you know of a guide to set up the port forwarding!?
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Do you know of a guide to set up the port forwarding!?
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www.portforward.com Follow the guide for setting up static ip for your specific router model and then follow any of the portforwarding guide for any software and swap the port numbers used to 6783,6784 and 6785 (splashtop default ports)
Some newer routers have this setting called Static DHCP/Static Address, this is the same as setting static ip, but instead of your computer forcing your internal IP to be the same, the router does it for you based on your MAC address (binded to your NIC/Network Interface Chip)
From what I read, Asus is going to provide us Splashtop HD for free on their next firmware update. FYI.
I bought it anyways
Asus France tell me the exactly oposite when I asked them "There is no update of my desktop planned for the moment"
an official poster said in splashtop forum there will be a free update for the asus transformer..
anyway, what's the difference between splashtop HD in the android market and the splashtop that comes with My Cloud?... the my cloud version works perfectly fine and supports native resolution of 1280*800 too..
Hey,
I am considering to buy myself the transformer with the dock and I was wondering, if it would then work as a "real" netbook if I use it in connection with Splashtop? Therefore I have some questions:
* Will all kinds of software (Microsoft Office, Eclipse IDE, etc.) work?
* Are the keyboard and the touchpad fully compatible? Or will I have to use some kind of virtual keyboard although the dock is plugged in?
* How will this affect the battery life?
* Will there be any interferences with surfing the web?
Thank You very much so far!
I had the same thought but I just went and did it.
Even though the asus transformer has an app that is a clone of Microsoft office (Polaris Office) Microsoft office will work.
The keyboard works fine with me. All that the keyboard does is replace the onscreen one, so it has to work.
It will have the same battery life as you would normally have while Wifi is turned on.
I personally noticed that it was a little laggy, but I have really bad internet.
Good luck sir
Thanks for the reply!
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The keyboard works fine with me. All that the keyboard does is replace the onscreen one, so it has to work.
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What's about the touchpad? Does is also work completely right? It think I read somewhere that using the right-click button causes Splashtop to terminate?
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I personally noticed that it was a little laggy, but I have really bad internet.
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How fast is/was your internet connection? How fast should it be?
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I really think that Asus TF together with its Dock are a great team, but I am afraid that it won't fulfill my expectations. Of course, I could buy me a netbook, but I also would like to have the ability to play around with a touch-screen
So honestly, how long have you had the TF (and how long have you used Splashtop) and do you think it is a "good" combination of a netbook and a tablet?
Right click will quit splashtop (it is back) but holding down left simulates right click. On my lan splashtop is almost like running windows locally. Over the net it is as good for most things as any other remote solution but somehow manages to stream video better than any others.
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* Will all kinds of software (Microsoft Office, Eclipse IDE, etc.) work?
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I have to ask this question, but you are aware that Splashtop is a remote desktop solution, and that in order for it to work you must have a PC or a Mac running somewhere on your network (or accessible from the internet), and it is this machine that actually runs your software?
The reason I ask is because you're asking if specific software works with Splashtop - in essence, the software on your "server" machine is immaterial to Splashtop because Splashtop is just a remote desktop.
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Dave
Hey Dave!
I fully understand that the software has to run on a normal OS and the "output" will be streamed to the TF. The thing is though, I am not sure if the 10 inch display can resize the images so far, that the software can be used productively.
So my question is how good can the display handle "intensive" applications which have a lot of screen elements. Is the small display able to scale it down properly?
When you run splashtop from the transformer, it automatically changes the screen resolution on the host computer to a size that will fit on the transformer screen perfectly (At least in my experience). Once you disconnect your computers screen resolution goes back to what it was set as.
You can choose the following screen resolutions:
800x600
1024x768
1280x720
Best fit to transformer
Native resolution(whatever you currently have set on your windows or mac comptuer)
In practice your primary concern should be the tablet -> mouse situation and having enough bandwidth for what you're doing.
The regular version that is bundled will also tend to disconnect when you go back or to another application, I assume so does the HD.
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One other thing to note is that when you are using the trackpad on the dock, you get the android mouse plus you get the mouse on the computers desktop. The mouse of the computers desktop follows the android mouse around, with a little bit of lag (if you aren't on the same network).
As mentioned above, the right click button on the dock still does act as the back button, exiting the application. Tapping and holding is the way to make a right-click action happen on the host computer.
If standard RDP is an option (if you have a VPN or something), the 2X RDP app works wonderfully with the transformer keyboard dock and trackpad. It actually allows you to use the right-click liek you normally would - it's JUST like sitting in front of a PC....
Like I said though, this is just plain RDP - will not work via the internet without a VPN.... ALso, not good for things like video, etc.....
Maybe its just me, but I'm hating JB and Android. The TF700 is my first Android device.
#1, its friggin slow. I'm browsing with Firefox and its touch and wait. Its incredibly slow.
#2, you can't multi task anything. At best you can play music while you browse. That is it.
#3, everything is locked down and the apps are not great quality.
I'm speaking compared to running Fedora 17 on a Dell Duo.
As far as I can tell the Dell Duo (Atom) has about the same processing speed as the TF700 (Tegra 3). They both have the same RAM, 1 GB. The Duo has a built in hard drive, but I could probably fit Linux on 32GB and use a SD card for everything else. And a USB drive when necessary.
Linux is so much faster on the Duo than Android is on the TF700. I can have 5 instances of Firefox open on 4 desktops with a couple tabs open in each one. Libre Office works well on the Duo and anything else I need is only a yum command away.
Lots of the Google Play software doesn't really work well. I'm surprised.
Android is a darn clunky OS. I'm surprised at that too.
Example, I want to transfer files from my Linux PC to the TF700 and back, all via my PC.
I do this all the time via Bluetooth with the Duo and with my Nokia N900. Both of these devices have the obex library installed on them. Dolphin in KDE sees the devices and downloads an image of their filesystem to browse. Uploading and downloading is as simple as dragging and dropping files to and from Dolphin.
I've tried several apps from Google play that say they implement obex, but none seem to work. Ironically Linux has an open source obex library freely available. It appears that I would have to root my TF700 in order to install it. On a regular Linux machine its as easy as yum install obex. Or apt-get obex. Or synaptic.
Android's answer to obex seems to be Air Droid. Which works, but doesn't allow me to do anything with the TF700 while I am doing a transfer. And which you have to initiate from the tablet all the time and input a password into the browser client running on the PC. And dragging and dropping files on a browser is not the same as doing it in Dolphin, where I can right click, open a sell and treat the remote device file system like any other file system.
Example, I want to listen to a podcast while I browse websites.
I browsed to a podcast page in Firefox that had streaming MP3 links or iTunes links.
I don't have an iTunes client on my TF700, so that is out. When I right clicked (lonnngggg hold) the streaming MP3 link, it give me 3 options. 1. Open link in new tab. 2. Share link. 3. Bookmark link. None of those does me any good.
If I single press the link, it starts downloading, which is what I want. Only there isn't any UI feedback to tell me its downloading, so I press it 3x while waiting and the file downloads 3x.
At some point a media player starts playing the file. 3X as a matter of fact. But if I leave the page, it stops playing it, even though it has downloaded the file locally.
No problem, its downloaded locally, I'll play it locally. If I then go to Downloads in Firefox and select Open, it doesn't have a file association to start playing the file. It says it can't open the file with the PDF viewer.
So then I have to close Firefox and open the file manager and copy the file to the Music folder because the music player won't find it anywhere else. Then I can click the file and the music player starts playing it.
In Firefox in Fedora, I right click the link and select Open with... and select VLC and it plays. Done. It takes 5 seconds.
I find I can't browse my gmail account very well. I can't do anything on eBay. Amazon is out too. Again and again I am grabbing my Duo to do what I thought I was going to do with my TF700. I thought that Android was going to be this hot shot OS, really powerful, clean, fast, neat. Instead its slow, clunky, locked up and very poorly integrated.
Basically, I'm finding my TF700 to be a useless device due to the OS contraints. Anyone else finding this ?
I'm thinking its time to run Linux natively on my TF700. I haven't a clue how to set that up, the boot part at least. With the Duo it was as simple as getting to the BIOS and booting an install image. How does one do that on the TF700 ? If I ever get Linux installed and I want to go back to JB, is there a way ?
http://www.nvidia.com/content/devzone/linux-for-tegra.html
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTA3MjQ
http://zenit.senecac.on.ca/wiki/index.php/Fedora_ARM_Secondary_Architecture
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM
Wow. So much hate. If you really want Linux (only one on the way to being ported in this tablet is Ubuntu) you will just have to be patient. A dev here by the name Hiemanshu is working to get it to dual boot with the tablet. I highly doubt you can do it yourself as it requires a lot of Kernel work. Unless you know what you are doing, be my guest. And if you are discontent with the various features Android has to offer, you can always step down and get an iOS product. It is personal preference. This is a great tablet for me and just about the rest of the community here. Root it and install Clean-Rom. You might have something better to say next time. :thumbup:
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I'm not even going into these hate posts anymore. Just learn to work with what you've got -- the TF700 serves me pretty well. If you want a desktop experience (that is what you imply by referring to Linux anyway), you should have gotten a freaking laptop instead -- and put some *nix variety on it and be happy. And please do not make an effort to post in here how happy you are with your new setup: we are happy with ours as well.
@MOD: Can we get a lock, please?
For the record, I have 2 laptops in addition to the TF700.
I fail to see what the difference is between a "desktop experience" and what Android tries to implement. I can set Linux up to everything Android does UI wise. What is the Android experience versus the desktop experience ?
I thought the whole Android thing was supposed to be superior web and multimedia functionality. My Linux devices kick my TF700 to the curb. Streamtuner, Amarok, Shairplay, faster browser (Firefox), etc.
Am I missing something ?
unlock, root, go to CleanRom and shush.
Linuxguy1 said:
For the record, I have 2 laptops in addition to the TF700.
I fail to see what the difference is between a "desktop experience" and what Android tries to implement. I can set Linux up to everything Android does UI wise. What is the Android experience versus the desktop experience ?
I thought the whole Android thing was supposed to be superior web and multimedia functionality. My Linux devices kick my TF700 to the curb. Streamtuner, Amarok, Shairplay, faster browser (Firefox), etc.
Am I missing something ?
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Yes, you're missing:
- Touch Screen capabilities
- Form-factor (I'm sure your laptops are much larger and heavier than your TF700.
- Battery Life - I've yet to see a laptop with the type of battery life I get from my TF700+dock.
- Cheap, plentiful apps - I don't think there are nearly as many 99 cent apps for Linux as there are for Android.
- "removable" screen - let see you pop the screen off of you laptop!
There are clearly a lot of advantages to the TF700+dock over a linux laptop... Just as there are advantages of a Linux laptop over the TF700+dock. It all depends on what you want to do.
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Yes, you're missing:
- Touch Screen capabilities
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The duo is touch screen.
- Form-factor (I'm sure your laptops are much larger and heavier than your TF700.
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The duo has a built in keyboard and hard drive. By the time you add them to the TF700, there is no size/weight difference.
- Battery Life - I've yet to see a laptop with the type of battery life I get from my TF700+dock.
- Cheap, plentiful apps - I don't think there are nearly as many 99 cent apps for Linux as there are for Android.
- "removable" screen - let see you pop the screen off of you laptop!
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These are mostly hardware advantages. I agree the TF700 rocks hardware wise. Its the OS I don't like.
My Duo came with Windows 7 and I hated it with it. Linux fixed that and now I love it. I think the TF700 would rock running Linux. It would be so much faster running apps natively instead of through the Dalvik/Java VM. Just look at how fast the Nokia N900 is.
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The duo is touch screen.
The duo has a built in keyboard and hard drive. By the time you add them to the TF700, there is no size/weight difference.
These are mostly hardware advantages. I agree the TF700 rocks hardware wise. Its the OS I don't like.
My Duo came with Windows 7 and I hated it with it. Linux fixed that and now I love it. I think the TF700 would rock running Linux. It would be so much faster running apps natively instead of through the Dalvik/Java VM. Just look at how fast the Nokia N900 is.
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Ok, so I was wrong about the touch screen (didn't notice you said Duo) - but all of the other advantages are still true (who would ever hook up a harddrive to the TF700 during normal use)? And the TF700 does have a keyboard (using the keyboard dock). It's still much smaller and lighter than the Duo.
Besides the hardware advantages, the Play Store is a huge advantage. Linux isn't all that great when it comes to general-purpose apps for the end-user.
I absolutely love the TF700 and it perform *great*, especially with CleanROM. Personally, I have absolutely no reason to want a linux laptop - no interest whatsoever. And I'm a Unix admin by trade!
The TF700 is a great device hardware and software-wise. What good is a super fast OS (Linux) without the apps to go with it? That's where Linux falls down - the availability of apps for the end-user... I don't care how fast it is, if the apps aren't there, it's not very useful, in my opinion.... On the other hand, there are hundred of thousands (I think) apps for Android - all written for touch-screen devices. How many touch-screen-enabled apps are available for a Linux laptop?
Again, it all boils down to what you want to do with the device - I like having the flexibility that Android and the TF700 provides. It's plenty fast....
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Thanks for your replies. I'm, glad this turned into a discussion instead of people hating on me for expressing my displeasure with the TF700.
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Ok, so I was wrong about the touch screen (didn't notice you said Duo) - but all of the other advantages are still true (who would ever hook up a harddrive to the TF700 during normal use)? And the TF700 does have a keyboard (using the keyboard dock). It's still much smaller and lighter than the Duo.
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By itself, yes. With the dock, not by much. And there is a new Duo coming out, with an i5.
Besides the hardware advantages, the Play Store is a huge advantage. Linux isn't all that great when it comes to general-purpose apps for the end-user.
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What does the Google Play have that Fedora doesn't have in its repositories ? Games come to mind, but I'm not a big gamer. I'm running some of the same apps on my TF700 than I use on the rest of my Linux machines. VLC, Firefox, etc. I WISH that Play had a lot of things I take for granted in Linux, like Stream Tuner, Amarok, etc.
I absolutely love the TF700 and it perform *great*, especially with CleanROM.
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Please tell me more about this. Why does it run faster with CleanROM ? I'm at the point where I need to seriously consider installing it.
Personally, I have absolutely no reason to want a linux laptop - no interest whatsoever. And I'm a Unix admin by trade!
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- Being able to use any USB sound device you want.
- Ssh (-X!) without rooting.
- Having BusyBox (and more) without rooting.
- yum.
- KDE 4.9 with multiple desktops.
- Dolphin.
- Libre office <--- without this, the TF700 is a multimedia surfer, not anything more.
- Having access to ALL the plugins for Firefox
I dare you to install Fedora 17 KDE on a laptop and experience it for yourself. I didn't mean to turn this into a Linux versus Android debate, but I see way more missing from Android than missing from Linux.
The TF700 is a great device hardware and software-wise. What good is a super fast OS (Linux) without the apps to go with it? That's where Linux falls down - the availability of apps for the end-user... I don't care how fast it is, if the apps aren't there, it's not very useful, in my opinion....
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What apps are you speaking of ?
On the other hand, there are hundred of thousands (I think) apps for Android - all written for touch-screen devices. How many touch-screen-enabled apps are available for a Linux laptop?
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Most any app runs quite well on a touchscreen in KDE with the appearance setting tweaked for larger fonts. And there is Plasma-Active, specifically designed for touch devices. In Linux you can switch back and forth between a desktop optimized UI and a touchscreen optimized UI.
Android (and iOS and Win Phone) and all its a app market is designed for tiuchscreen our for our large fingers while desktop experience with windows 7 or linux are about app needing very precise and small mouse/touchpad actions. I don't know about any linux distrib that has a "fingers-oriented" GUI, the same for linux applications who are using menus, buttons, ... all too small for my fingers. .... Unless i'm wrong. Unless you use keyboard and mouse, but this is imho the exact contrary to standard use of touchscreen tablets.
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It's not only font size that makes app touchscreen capable, it's the entir e way the GUI is designed. So i don't believe that kde ans app you list are that really fine on touchscreen : they works but this is natural using
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I must be doing something wrong because "normal" apps work just fine on my Duo touchscreen.
And then there is this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulcizzAj-N4
For those that aren't aware, Plasma is a window manager scheme available in KDE.
The plasma demo is very nice but it'll about specific plasma app (web browsing, mails, photo viewer, word & sheet viewer) and no classic linux app like firefox thunderbird, the gimp, ...
Myself i'm sometimes using my android tablet to connect to my win7 pc and that i use win7 and app like chrome, thunderbird, office and i constantly have to zoom in/out to use menus or choose in lists. Not very comfortable
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Ghorin said:
The plasma demo is very nice but it'll about specific plasma app (web browsing, mails, photo viewer, word & sheet viewer) and no classic linux app like firefox thunderbird, the gimp, ...
Myself i'm sometimes using my android tablet to connect to my win7 pc and that i use win7 and app like chrome, thunderbird, office and i constantly have to zoom in/out to use menus or choose in lists. Not very comfortable
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Agreed - just because you *can* do something, doesn't mean that it's the best way to do something (or even practical). There is no way that apps which aren't designed for touch screen devices will be as productive as apps that are specifically designed for touch screens... The Linux app ecosystem is not anywhere near as robust as the Android app ecosystem, especially for end users - not even close. Linux OS strengths are geared towards being used as a server operating system - not an end-user operating system.
Have you looked at all of the apps available in the Play Store? The are all written specifically for a touch screen device, unlike Android apps.
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No linux is fine for end-user, gnome or kde or other linux desktop are nearly as much easy to use than any other os desktop. But the same than for win ok mac osx they are for keyboard/mouse use.
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My Infinity is sucking less lately. An update to Firefox helped immensely. I still find Android clunky compared to Linux, but its liveable. I am going to test Plasma Active on my Duo. I'll report back on how I like it.
As far as apps having to be specifically designed for a touch interface versus a mouse interface, yes and no. I run regular Linux apps on my Duo with the touch screen without any issues. What is the difference in touching an html link on a web page versus a menu item in an app ? Nothing.
I downloaded a couple books in PDF format on my Infinity. It was EXCELLENT at that. LOVE the form factor and the screen. I played with a Samsung 10.1 tablet the other day and I'll take my Infinity over it any day. On the downside, the USB adapter is clunky and constantly falls out of the port, making it nearly unusable.
I'll be very interested in your report about kde plasma. On linux, i've always been a gnome user and a kde disliker ( i tried many times but never liked it). Maybe plasma could make me like kde at last
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I hope and wait for ubuntu on my Infinity
Ghorin said:
I'll be very interested in your report about kde plasma. On linux, i've always been a gnome user and a kde disliker ( i tried many times but never liked it). Maybe plasma could make me like kde at last
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When was the last time you tried KDE ? Recent versions of KDE are miles better than even the early 4 series. The late 3 series was feature laden but surely not polished. I find the recent KDE releases to be super polished and very functional. I run 6 desktops with multiple activities. I know of no other desktop environment that can match it.
If you were turned off aesthetically, I am too with some of the KDE themes. I am running the Androbit desktop theme, with 2 panels, one of the top for the desktop and app managers and one at the bottom for program icons.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Its not the prettiest desktop, its pretty vanilla, but it works for me. I could easily improve it if I spent more time. I purposely run a boring desktop wallpaper so that I can easily find icons. Fedora has some great wall papers but they are too busy for my taste.
Having said all that, I'm already running Plasma on the Duo. I'll be testing Plasma Active in the near future.
This is on a 30" Dell U3011. 2560x1600 IIRC, so the icons and text are not as small as they may seem in that picture.
And yes, I have 19 Firefox instances running...
Hello XDA,
I am going to purchase the Moga Pro controller today and was wondering if the controller can be used on Win8Pro in HID mode? as I would like to use it to game on my Acer Iconia W700 as well as on my Samsung Galaxy Note 2.
Thank You,
I would like to know this as well. It does have HID mode so I would think it would work but since on the phone you need a special app to use it...
Hi,
Just found this review on Amazon. According to that person you should be able to though not all the buttons work, namely the triggers.
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Hello,
I have the Moga Pro.
It works on Windows 8 (mode B, HID)
Only R2 and L2 don't work, but it's not a problem with the controller.
R2 & L2 works with ShadowGun & Mupen64 in HID mode.
I don't understand the problem but it's software.
alexandrebe said:
Hello,
I have the Moga Pro.
It works on Windows 8 (mode B, HID)
Only R2 and L2 don't work, but it's not a problem with the controller.
R2 & L2 works with ShadowGun & Mupen64 in HID mode.
I don't understand the problem but it's software.
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Is it maybe possible to use the gamepad with a different driver, that is similar enough to detect all buttons but also the trigger? Cause that would be so great -.-
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Is it maybe possible to use the gamepad with a different driver, that is similar enough to detect all buttons but also the trigger? Cause that would be so great -.-
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Old thread, but in case anyone would like to know, the Moga Pro works just fine on Windows now. I use 8.1 myself.
I found this great page about it. It even has a how-to video.
http://gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/123031/moga-pro-controller-on-windows-7
Needed software referenced in the video is here: http://www.bitbanksoftware.com/tinytools.html
Adso3000 said:
Old thread, but in case anyone would like to know, the Moga Pro works just fine on Windows now. I use 8.1 myself.
I found this great page about it. It even has a how-to video. http://www.bitbanksoftware.com/tinytools.html
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Have you managed to play any games on it?
No, I just tested it as per the setup described. I currently only play games on my Playstation 3 (not with the MOGA obviously) and on my 12.2 tablet, and my PC it's only Civ 5, but that's mostly if I'm at sea. At home I mostly use the PS3. I just tested it with Win 8.1 in relation to a review I did for a website confirming that it works with Win 8.1. How well that would work in actual games I haven't tested, but I assumed it would, since there's be no reason for anyone to use this feature otherwise.
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Is it maybe possible to use the gamepad with a different driver, that is similar enough to detect all buttons but also the trigger? Cause that would be so great -.-
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Again, old thread, but I've written a program called MogaSerial that finally does fully support the Moga controllers on Windows 7, 8, and 10, using their mode A serial connection. It interfaces with either the vJoy joystick driver for DirectInput support or the SCP virtual bus driver for XInput support. All buttons and triggers work properly.
The program is on Github, at https://github.com/Zel-os/MogaSerial
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Again, old thread, but I've written a program called MogaSerial that finally does fully support the Moga controllers on Windows 7, 8, and 10, using their mode A serial connection. It interfaces with either the vJoy joystick driver for DirectInput support or the SCP virtual bus driver for XInput support. All buttons and triggers work properly.
The program is on Github, at https://github.com/Zel-os/MogaSerial
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Good job, but it seems something is not right in Xbox mode as the triggers are operating the right analog stick up/down. Not sure what the right analog stick is mapped to.
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Good job, but it seems something is not right in Xbox mode as the triggers are operating the right analog stick up/down. Not sure what the right analog stick is mapped to.
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There's some troubleshooting information on the GitHub project wiki page. If you've already checked that, it'd be helpful if you could open an issue there with your type of Moga controller and version of Windows. I've done pretty extensive testing with the Pro on Win7 and 10, and had reports of the Hero working fine, but there are a number of other models I don't have access to.
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There's some troubleshooting information on the GitHub project wiki page. If you've already checked that, it'd be helpful if you could open an issue there with your type of Moga controller and version of Windows. I've done pretty extensive testing with the Pro on Win7 and 10, and had reports of the Hero working fine, but there are a number of other models I don't have access to.
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Sorry I forgot to mention, it is the Moga Pro in Win 10. I was testing functionality by streaming the Xbox One.
Zel-os said:
Again, old thread, but I've written a program called MogaSerial that finally does fully support the Moga controllers on Windows 7, 8, and 10, using their mode A serial connection. It interfaces with either the vJoy joystick driver for DirectInput support or the SCP virtual bus driver for XInput support. All buttons and triggers work properly.
The program is on Github, at https://github.com/Zel-os/MogaSerial
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Zel-os, thanks so much for this; I've been hoping someone would make a driver for a long time now. Works great with my Moga Pro on Win 7 64-bit. :good:
This is a great app, and works as advertised on my Power Pro, in Windows 8.1. This is a gaming laptop. The Asus ROG G750JH (I7 Intel, 12GB RAM, Nvidia 860M). It's a pretty powerful rig (for a laptop), but I am getting lag in SCP mode on Skyrim. It is very random, but it never goes more than 1 minute without getting a short burst of severe lag. I haven't tried other games yet, but I will try some soon.
I think you have done some great work with this, and hope that it can be improved even more (mainly the lag). In fairness, sometimes there IS some lag using Inputmapper for my DS4 controller (wirelessly. Wired works perfect all the time), but it is under 4ms MOST of the time. I will do some more testing, because it MIGHT be my system not your app at all (that is to blame here).
Thanks for the feedback!
I'd like to be able to stomp out the remaining lag issues, but it's been difficult to tell where they're coming from. Sometimes it seems like the problem is an issue with various bluetooth radios or their drivers, and other times it seems like it could be related to MogaSerial needing to run in user space rather than as an actual driver. Every latency report seems different, which has made it awfully hard to pin down the cause.
Thanks for the feedback!
I'd like to be able to stomp out the remaining lag issues, but it's been difficult to tell where they're coming from. Sometimes it seems like the problem is an issue with various bluetooth radios or their drivers, and other times it seems like it could be related to MogaSerial needing to run in user space rather than as an actual driver. Every latency report seems different, which has made it awfully hard to pin down the cause.
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Your welcome. I have had this controller for a long time, and have waited all that time for some way to use it in Windows (with full functionality). So, THANK you for doing this for everyone!
As an update (and some more testing), I have found that there is very little lag in certain situations. First, I need to explain my setup, so you can get my meaning without me having to write an entire book. I have an Asus ROG G750JH gaming laptop. It has a generic Broadcom BT built-in. On my "desktop" setup (in my computer room, at my desk) I have a Logitech Orion gaming keyboard plugged in, a Logitech G700S gaming mouse (sometimes I switch to Logitech G602 gaming mouse), HDMI going to a 42" Roku TV, a sound bar that has a BT subwoofer, and of course my Moga (sometimes a DS4 controller).
Now that we have that out of the way, this is where I was trying to use my controller when I posted my last. Since then, I have used it in my living room (with none of the above hooked up to the laptop except the controller. I noticed that I have no lag (or at least not noticeable to me). So, it is possible that there was interference from the wifi on both the laptop, and the TV. And, there might have also been some due to the BT connection from the soundbar to its subwoofer counterpart.
I will keep testing this to see if I can duplicate the lag with no other devices in the backgroud (except the wifi on the laptop and wireless router itself). I have also noticed that my controller likes to jump to the right once in a while (the "strafe" stick) (once in a while means in between 0 seconds, and about 2 minutes, never more than that). Now, this COULD be my controller, but I don't remember having this jitter issue in android (though I will try and test this also).
One thing that makes me thing that all these devices are the culprit is that when I use my DS4 controller, I can sometimes get up to (and including) 320ms spikes of lag. This doesn't ALWAYS happen, but when it does, I just hook up the USB cable and use it that way, with no lag. So, there MIGHT be nothing to be done, if it is hardware related.
I know you can change the poll rate to speed things up a bit, but if there is a lot of traffic going on in Windows this will still cause lag. I wonder if there isn't a way to change affinity for your app and all daughter/parent processes like you can in task manager for programs. I am no programmer, so this may sound silly or impossible, but if the controller connection, and all software related to it were given priority by the OS, it would solve the lag (IMO). I realize that the OS might not be programmed (out of the box) to do this because the BT connection doesn't actually show up on task manager, so the option is not available for it, but could an app be made for this?