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this is the image i found for iPhone 2..
http://www.phonesreview.co.uk/wp-content/phoneimages/2008/04/iphone-2-rumor-ipod-observer.jpg
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this is the image i found for iPhone 2..
http://www.phonesreview.co.uk/wp-content/phoneimages/2008/04/iphone-2-rumor-ipod-observer.jpg
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that's a really old pic. :-\
nothin said:
f iphone, this is PPC/HTC machines forum.
MAAAD!
why you iphone masturbators won't realize, that whole iphone **** is killing PPC's and xdadev, IMO.
gtfo omfg.
one reason to love PPC machines:
thousands of software makers.
thousands of ideas,
what do you have with your iphone ffs, wow factor?
gtfo, i said.
and i have right to say that.
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lol! Its just a phone
cymru said:
lol! Its just a phone
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so?
THIS is iphone, and is THIS XDA-DEV or fockin iphoneg#$forum?
i remember what xdadev was...
how many of you too...
it was NORMAL forum about PPC/SM modding, now this place is actually one big mess.
sweet lord, what is happening here now..
instead adding subforum about EVERY moddable(uh..) WM device now we have iphonemoronism everywhere...
can anyone give me link to ppc modding site ONLY?
I agree screw the Iphone, it's not as great as everyone has been lead to think it is. So yeah it looks flashy when you go through it's menu's woopie slap pointui on a PPC and you've got your flashy. Screw the Iphone and macs in general.
Was about to say that I have no interest in anything that starts with a lower-case 'i'. then I realise I use i-Mate. D'oh
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I agree screw the Iphone, it's not as great as everyone has been lead to think it is. So yeah it looks flashy when you go through it's menu's woopie slap pointui on a PPC and you've got your flashy. Screw the Iphone and macs in general.
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I quite like it: bit limited connectivity-wise, poor camera and I prefer drag 'n' drop to Itunes BUT to use the Iphone is a breath of fresh air and has at the very least brought about a change in the way everyone - Symbian, Windows Mobile and so-on is to approach the GUIs of their hansets.
Apple didn't invent the touchscreen but they've brought about a revival of it and you've only got to play on an LG Viewty and an Iphone for 30 minutes each from a cold introduction to realise just how much thought and effort has been put into the Iphone's operation, and how much of a dog everything seems in comparison.
I'm not an Apple fanboy, I don't own one, nor do I own or know how to use a Mac. What I do know is that over the next year or so there are to be some exciting advancements in the world of the touchscreen and I thank Apple for getting Microsoft and Symbian off their arses and thinking about how to make their operating systems NICE to use.
Function is nothing without enjoyment
so imagine enjoyment WITHOUT function.
It was posted in the General discussion area so i cant see how its managed to wind you up so much. Its simply a thread in an online forum not like someones slashed your car tyres. Im no apple fanboy, i do own a Mac (only cos windows is so crap) but have a HTC Touch.
Maybe start a petition to ban iPhone talk here if your so against it?
All of this negativity, come on guys, its just a phone. Its not like the second coming.
However, what gets me with all this negativity is that the modding scene for WM that gives a lot of iPhone style functionality - iFonz, ThumbCal, PocketCM, etc.
Whilst I do like (some) of the functionality of WM, I cannot believe that MS has got to v6 of WM and still managed to have a product with arguably one of the worst user interface experiences that I've ever, er, experienced.
The good thing about iPhone and Mac is the easy of "Getting into a computer for the first time". What I mean is if you are totally computer illiterate (or a computer virgin) it is much easier to understand and get a hang of it than Microsofts OSs. However, it is pretty darn hard to "downgrade" to a Mac once you worked on XP or Vista --- where the f**k is the right mouse button anyways...
I love the User Experience factor on the iPhone, but other than that I can't use it for anything other than a really expensive mp3 player with a phone function.
I would say if your grandma fanny wants to learn computer and how to get on the internet a Mac is perfect for her.
Come on now guys... I can understand iPhone hatred, as this is a WM device (emphasis on WM) forum, but hating Macs? There ARE PPC-using Mac people, you know... myself included... me personally, I have my trusty TyTN II and an iPhone... one for work, one for play. Each have their pros and cons. And ultimately... TO EACH HIS OWN!!!
I love the Iphone vs. all other phones arguments. It's so amusing to see both sides get so worked up. It's like watching a American Football fan arguing with a Football fan from anywhere else in the world (soccer). Yes there are similarities but they are two different sports, therefore the majority of arguments are merely logical fallacies.
My friend put it best, "Apple makes products now for people that want to be told what to do". The Iphone is an amazing piece of eye candy. Competition breeds excellence so I say the people at Apple should give it everything they got. HTC should then try to outdo Iphone etc..etc..this will then give us better and better phones.
@burgertime, what does your friend mean, told what to do? You mean because of our zealot-like loyalty (sorry here, don't mean to sound too condescending or anything, but you have to admit alot of mac fans are simply that - zealots (I'm not one, personally, and though I like Macs, I hate those zealot-like fans). btw, it's outDO, not outDUE
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@burgertime, what does your friend mean, told what to do? You mean because of our zealot-like loyalty (sorry here, don't mean to sound too condescending or anything, but you have to admit alot of mac fans are simply that - zealots (I'm not one, personally, and though I like Macs, I hate those zealot-like fans). btw, it's outDO, not outDUE
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Are you happy now grammar nazi??? Ha ha just joking. Anyways, I think what he was getting at was the problem many WM users had with the Iphone. The fact that you had to "jail break" it just to put anything outside of what Apple tells you is the best to have on the phone. Same thing with the Ipod. Apple has decided that it has the best products so why change a good thing? Where as Windows has been forced to go along with the flo of programs developed outside of their scope. Apple I think will be forced to be open on a programming level.
Just as an example I would much rather own a Creative Zen then an Iphone. Yes the Iphone looks better, but I want to be able to put a WMV file or a Ogg or anyother codec and not have to run through Itunes to do it. Thus why I say Apple says, "you have to use Itunes because it's the best". A lot of people like the simplicity of this and thus carry around their Iphones like a cross.
Anyways just my two cents. I think the Iphone looks wonderful but I prefer being able to have hundreds of programs that exploit the hell out of my phone.
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@burgertime, what does your friend mean, told what to do? You mean because of our zealot-like loyalty (sorry here, don't mean to sound too condescending or anything, but you have to admit alot of mac fans are simply that - zealots (I'm not one, personally, and though I like Macs, I hate those zealot-like fans). btw, it's outDO, not outDUE
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As long as we're correcting, you never closed your first parentheses. I'll get it for you. ) There you go.
Oops... my bad. I can see why you're the sarcasm merchant.
About Jailbreaking, that's gonna end on June 9th, when Apple is (sorry, feeding off my own Mac/iPhone/Apple rumor sources here), but Gizmodo has a source that claims that iPhone 2, and also iPhone 2.0 (that's firmware update/ROM update to WM) that will introduce the iPhone App Store (including free titles). Hence, it'll be more of an open system, not to mention it'll support (in addition to the original Y!Mail) GMail, Exchange, AOL, .mac mail to be pushed.
I think the reason so many people strongly dislike the iPhone (or anything else 'Apple') is their misleading manipulative advertising. They don't just say "we're great" they say "we're great, and everyone else sucks". This is offputting as is the super saturation advertising.
They act like they invented the touchscreen (give me a break).
Instead of saying "the iPhone doesn't work with a stylus, Jobs says "stylus's SUCK" in an attempt to properly indoctrinate the fanboys. It's nice to use your finger, but Styluses have their place too.
Apple fanboys sit on their asses in front of the TV and wait for Jobs to tell them what they want instead of getting on the net and finding out what's really available out there.
Jobs just makes me sick. They say he has 'Vision', I say he has 'Tunnel Vision'. He doesn't care what the people want, it's what HE wants. Like the sealed battery, Pocket PCs quit using sealed batterys 5 years or so ago because THAT'S WHAT THE PEOPLE WANTED! Same with Dpads, buttons and keyboards.
I have an iPhone that I got cheap because it won't read a simcard. This is a common problem with the iphone. Have you ever heard of a phone that won't detect a simcard?
Finally, Itunes absolutely sucks (as does quicktime and any other piece of apple software you may have the misfortune of installing on your PC). Unfortunately, the free itunes alternatives available on the net do not work with the iPhone
And finally, you don't own what you buy from apple, THEY do. At least that's the impression I get by their attempts to prevent you from modding or actually doing what you want with what you purchased. (another example of Jobs' meglomaniacal tunnel vision. He somehow knows better than you what you want.)
Good pic, but that is not the new iphone - 1st that pic is quite old now and 2nd that pic is meant to be the 1st iphone in a black case - but don't get me wrong that design is not half bad for the iphone.
However this is a Windows Mobile site - and however good the iphone may be it is not in this section
5yrs behind again? When can Android finally overthrone iOS?
Now Google and Microsoft are jealous.
http://www.tuaw.com/2011/10/26/why-google-and-microsoft-need-to-fear-siri/
This post is a joke right?
He's baiting the trolls. He just wants to see a flame war.
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This post is a joke right?
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I would say it is, yes. But it also shows something else: The power of Apple marketing. Siri used to be an app in the store, and nothing. Then Apple buys the company, touts Siri as some "revolutionary" thing they created, and look at what's happening - suddenly Siri is the best thing since sliced bread and all other vendors should fear it. Yeah right. If you ask me, Siri is a fad that will quickly blow over. Even with Apple's marketing.
Joke, may be you haven't seen the power of SIRI, it is just I always see my sister talking to her phone and she said it is very useful especially when sending email, he will just say "send mike an email, Can you put up the dialyzer so I can start to dialyze when I got there tomorrow" she does not need to go in the mail app, look for the email addresss, click on the message box and type the message, same as text, I think it is not that useful, but now that I saw my sister doing that, I think I might sell my Infuse 4g and try the 4s, come on I did not post this to hurt your egos which now obviously hurt because you bought an Android device, I too bought Infuse 4g but I am open on any device that will benefit me.
The difference between me and some guys here, I am open minded on what will benefit me, and some guys defend Android like it is their company and want to beat Apple, Rim, and Window phone 7. And they don't want to let people speak that they made a mistake buying Android or they just love their android.
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Joke, may be you haven't seen the power of SIRI, it is just I always see my sister talking to her phone and she said it is very useful especially when sending email, he will just say "send mike an email, Can you put up the dialyzer so I can start to dialyze when I got there tomorrow" she does not need to go in the mail app, look for the email addresss, click on the message box and type the message, same as text, I think it is not that useful, but now that I saw my sister doing that, I think I might sell my Infuse 4g and try the 4s, come on I did not post this to hurt your egos which now obviously hurt because you bought an Android device, I too bought Infuse 4g but I am open on any device that will benefit me.
The difference between me and some guys here, I am open minded on what will benefit me, and some guys defend Android like it is their company and want to beat Apple, Rim, and Window phone 7. And they don't want to let people speak that they made a mistake buying Android or they just love their android.
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totally agree with this post. Until google puts more thought into the UX it will be behind imo. It has all the features but they're so haphazardly tossed together that using it is a chore.
As much as it is kinda cool in the right situations I see this being just another reason to own a cell signal jamming box. People are already rude enough to make a call while in speaker phone.
Text from my friend,
"If you dont my floorspace I think there's a lot of room in my room as I got a big corner suite so gay just to buy the best thing to me the room only has one bed and is also one clean so club club at so"
"Damn Siri"
Android is FAR AHEAD OF Apple.
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bleach168 said:
Text from my friend,
"If you dont my floorspace I think there's a lot of room in my room as I got a big corner suite so gay just to buy the best thing to me the room only has one bed and is also one clean so club club at so"
"Damn Siri"
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You should upload a screenshot of that!
Yes I know when I used the mic button on my Android Infuse 4g it ends up like that, it will never understand how you speak, unlike SIRI you can even correct the word you say even you say it the wrong way just correct it, the next time you say it on your accent it will understand it, or may be that is how your friend speak, tell him to take english class online, it is cheaper online.
Have to admit... It is quite accurate..
I used it at a busy apple store, and it still heard me!
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Yes I know when I used the mic button on my Android Infuse 4g it ends up like that, it will never understand how you speak, unlike SIRI you can even correct the word you say even you say it the wrong way just correct it, the next time you say it on your accent it will understand it, or may be that is how your friend speak, tell him to take english class online, it is cheaper online.
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I sure hope SIRI isn't submitting your posts, because if that's the case it's completely worthless.
You do realize SIRI is just an app right? If you think an app can put apple 5 years ahead of android, none of your posts should be taken seriously. In my opinion, the SUPERUSER app puts android infinitely ahead of apple. Android has personal assistant apps, and I am quite sure the developers will be working hard on them now. Apple has nothing to the likes of Superuser and never will.
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I sure hope SIRI isn't submitting your posts, because if that's the case it's completely worthless.
You do realize SIRI is just an app right? If you think an app can put apple 5 years ahead of android, none of your posts should be taken seriously. In my opinion, the SUPERUSER app puts android infinitely ahead of apple. Android has personal assistant apps, and I am quite sure the developers will be working hard on them now. Apple has nothing to the likes of Superuser and never will.
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You just quote and quote, obviously you don't read, I don't have an iPhone 4s yet i have infuse 4g, i am on the edge, next time read every post completely so people will even have a chance to may be think, your reply make sense. And SIRI is not an app now, you can't buy it on appstore if you have an iPhone 4, you need more knowledge about tech, obviously you are outdated
Android, and every other touchscreen OS, (besides iOS) you might as well say goodbye to...
Apple now has the power to destroy Android, Windows Phone, and any other iOS Touchscreen Competitor... Steve Jobs wins this round (for now anyways...)
How long before Apple has the S3 Pulled? This is the top iPhone competitor besides the DROID RAZR Series, with the S3 far ahead...
Check this out:
http://www.acsyndicate.net/apple-aw...ts-the-possible-end-of-android-as-we-know-it/
This could spell the end for Android and this phone, and I will not be a happy camper if I can't upgrade because of Apple... I will throw a major tantrum!
Google, act & appeal fast and fix this mess!!!!
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I am not saying this will happen, but is quite possible if the government doesn't block Apple in their tracks from doing so... (I think once Google Appeals, these parents will be made standard for touchscreens...)
deedscreen said:
Android, and every other touchscreen OS, (besides iOS) you might as well say goodbye to...
Apple now has the power to destroy Android, Windows Phone, and any other iOS Touchscreen Competitor... Steve Jobs wins this round (for now anyways...)
How long before Apple has the S3 Pulled? This is the top iPhone competitor besides the DROID RAZR Series, with the S3 far ahead...
Check this out:
http://www.acsyndicate.net/apple-aw...ts-the-possible-end-of-android-as-we-know-it/
This could spell the end for Android and this phone, and I will not be a happy camper if I can't upgrade because of Apple... I will throw a major tantrum!
Google, act & appeal fast and fix this mess!!!!
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If this ever happens i would rather go back to a flip phone or have none at all. I would never give apple any of my money.
I refuse to get an Apple device, but this won't effect available devices in stock or on eBay, so good Android devices will be very rare if this goes the way Apple wants... I'll tell you one thing, eBay prices for Android Devices will go sky high.... (used or not...)
Edit: I miss flip phones anyways, so I'll go old school if I have to...
i have an ipad, and this makes me want to smash it. Apple, you do not own the world, you were not the first to create a "list" on an electronic device. If your so afraid of Samsung, then just build a darn phone with a bigger screen, i wont buy it, but tons of other people would. Fair competition is good for business, it keeps ingenuity alive and keeps engineers pushing the limits of what can be done. Competition is THE ONLY REASON we have the superphones we have now. If apple owns all the rights to make anything that even resembles a smartphone, we will have the iphone 4s renamed and sold as a new product for the next decade.
Whoever the judge is that granted that patent, is an idiot.
it will never happen. Nothing to add.
Well some of what this says they currently have rights to like list view is bs because before the first iPhone was released I was able to use list view on Windows mobile for years. So unless I've miss read, something isn't right or maybe my aging memory is wrong.
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it will never happen. Nothing to add.
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I know you said nothing to add, but my point is Apple had been on a wining streak, so hopefully the government fixes this and makes these touch screen parents standard...
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it will never happen. Nothing to add.
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tjb433 said:
I have an ipad, and this makes me want to smash it.
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Do a factory reset, sell it, buy a Galaxy Tab, then shove it in your Apple Store representatives face showing features that the iPad doesn't have... No reason to smash something worth hundreds, (although the company who makes it is pure evil...) But I agree with what you were saying completely...
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Whoever the judge is that granted that patent, is an idiot.
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I wanted to say that in my article, but couldn't so I said the judge made a "very poor decision".
deedscreen said:
Do a factory reset, sell it, buy a Galaxy Tab, then shove it in your Apple Store representatives face showing features that the iPad doesn't have... No reason to smash something worth hundreds, (although the company who makes it is pure evil...) But I agree with what you were saying completely...
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I was actually thinking of doing this over the past few weeks, i had an android tablet a few years ago, but the number and quality of apps was underwhelming, how is it now?
tjb433 said:
I was actually thinking of doing this over the past few weeks, i had an android tablet a few years ago, but the number and quality of apps was underwhelming, how is it now?
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I have the HTC EVO View, while I am not a fan of HTC, nor the EVO Series, I don't regret the purchase... Now there is wayyy more support for tablets and specialized tablet UIs.... Now just make sure you get a high end one that will be upgraded to Jelly Bean... (It's not worth getting one on a data contract, as you can tether from your phone to your tablet...)
Note: The EVO View nor HTC Flyer will NOT Get ICS nor JB so don't even bother...
This is utterly ridiculous google needs to stop sitting on their hands and be more aggressive.
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This is utterly ridiculous google needs to stop sitting on their hands and be more aggressive.
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You couldn't have put it any better... This happened around the 17th of this month... and we (the public) have yet to hear of any response from Google...
This is for USA only other countries won't tolerate this bs. Only in the USA. Where they're are so proud of apple for outsourcing jobs that Americans badly need smucks.
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Android is here to stay. Google and samsung have some pretty good lawyers too. It's total BS that this kinda stuff even goes on. The only people getting rich on this are the lawyers. If they were smart, they'd sit across from each other at a conference table and make a truce and move on.
Now that Jobs is dead, it's just a matter of time before Apple slips into irrelevance. Nobody there has the passion he had about his company, and nobody is gonna defend it like he did.
That 40 billion they have will be squandered away on bogus patent law suits. Money that could have been spent on more cutting edge development. Everybody knows that patents are crap. Your better off not even applying for a patent and get the thing to market first. By the time they figure out what you did, you come up with something new. A patent application is an invitation and a headstart for everybody else to steal your idea. The company thats ahead of the development curve, and gets it to market fast and furious, makes the money.
Boo hoo...they stole my idea:crying:
Apple is a joke. This is what happens when they feel threaten by a competitor. I will give it to Apple the iPhone was a brake through, but since then Android came out and is user friendly with developers willing to make the devices better and faster more customizable. Making the Android OS just better period. Apple needs to realize there are other players in this game so step up as Android HAS. They know Android IS the future and their scared they will be left behind. Lol I laugh a Apple, I'm going to tell them like I do any young kid with a bad attitude grow up.
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I wanted to say that in my article, but couldn't so I said the judge made a "very poor decision".
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The court should get sued for taking away our right to choose what we want to purchase. I will rather NOT have a phone or an old crappy phone than own a crapple device. I will order my phones through China or Japanese manufactures. but owning a crappy device I will not!
Good read here as well arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012/02/if-android-is-a-stolen-product-then-so-was-the-iphone/
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Oh and just to add a good question shouldn't someone sue Apple for using someone else's technology like LCD, LED screens, let them have the right to the patents a lot it would do them with a device with no screen.
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First off, I searched the forums to see if anybody has really discussed what seems to be a one-sided trial and I haven't really found anything. So I ask this question because I am a little confused on the matter...
If you have been following the news lately, you would see that the samsung vs. apple case has begun. Barely two days into it samsung releases evidence of designs that predate the iphone which look kind of similar. Apparently this "key" evidence was rejected by Judge Koh on the basis that it is irrelevant. You can google search the facts about this but here is one link http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2407919,00.asp
Now, I am no legal expert and just taking a quick glance and seeing the evidence and hearing that it was rejected by the judge makes no sense right now. It angered me to think that samsung wasn't given a fair chance to provide evidence that seems clearly relevant to why this whole trial is even taking place. But I figured I should withhold judgment until I learn all the facts because like I said, I am no expert on legal matters and I know there is two sides of the story.
My question is, is there a good reason as to why the judge threw evidence out like this? A lot of people are claiming the judge is being payed by apple but I'm not going to quickly jump to that conclusion. I am wondering if there are any fellow xda people out there that have some experience in law or know a lot about this case and can elaborate as to why this has happened. I want to know if it is unfair to jump to the assumption that apple is somehow pulling strings behind the scenes.
I'd prefer people with a decent amount of knowledge in this case speak up and not people who have read a few articles and think they know all about it.
If it's one thing I'm really starting to learn, it's that all these tech sites seem to have a bias towards them. I see some sites blatantly ignoring and even sometimes lying about android and it's features, usabillity, etc. So I'd rather get advice, experience, opinions from people who at least know what they're talking about.
Update Now Apple is asking for judge to punish samsung for releasing public documents to the press
http://www.computerworld.com/s/arti...amsung_for_releasing_documents_in_iPhone_suit
I'm pretty sure that evidence was thrown out because it was entered too late by Samsung (there's a cut-off date after which no new evidence may be entered for consideration, since both parties must get some time to go over it and decide how to deal with it).
But yeah, unfortunately I think Samsung is gonna get screwed on this one. Apple seems pretty good at deceiving juries and judges (especially certain ones) into believing that they invented everything in existence. I just hope it doesn't end too badly for Samsung, as their phones are probably the biggest reason why Android has risen up as a viable competitor to iOS (and even raced right past it in market share). The smartphone world needs that competition. I shudder at the thought of a world where the only real choice is getting an iPhone.
RoadHazard said:
I'm pretty sure that evidence was thrown out because it was entered too late by Samsung (there's a cut-off date after which no new evidence may be entered for consideration, since both parties must get some time to go over it and decide how to deal with it).
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Ahhh, I see. Well that makes sense if it there's a deadline and they didn't make it. I will say that I find it pretty strange that they didn't make the deadline with evidence that seems to be pretty damn important.
There are time limits, thought it can still be allowed if it wasn't discovered quickly enough to be submitted. Regardless, every decision made seems to point to clear bias on the point of Koh and higher judges. I've yet to see anything fair and impartial about what's been going on with any of this from the beginning.
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There are time limits, thought it can still be allowed if it wasn't discovered quickly enough to be submitted. Regardless, every decision made seems to point to clear bias on the point of Koh and higher judges. I've yet to see anything fair and impartial about what's been going on with any of this from the beginning.
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Worst case scenario... Apple wins. And also gets to enforce the recent touchscreen patents they were awarded. What does this mean for android? That's what I'm wondering. Although, I really hope this doesn't happen.
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There are time limits, thought it can still be allowed if it wasn't discovered quickly enough to be submitted. Regardless, every decision made seems to point to clear bias on the point of Koh and higher judges. I've yet to see anything fair and impartial about what's been going on with any of this from the beginning.
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Yeah... Richard Posner seems to be one of the only sensible ones. Quoting The Guardian:
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At one point, for example, Apple claimed that Google was infringing one of its patents on the process of unlocking a phone by swiping the screen. "Apple's argument that a tap is a zero-length swipe," said Posner, "is silly. It's like saying that a point is a zero-length line."
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Apple is being silly, and this guy seems to be the only judge who gets that.
Whatever happens, I will hate Apple more than ever. And, if I get a second choice, I will rather get a Windows Phone than an iPhone.
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lucastan96 said:
Whatever happens, I will hate Apple more than ever. And, if I get a second choice, I will rather get a Windows Phone than an iPhone.
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Yeah, if they actually manage to ruin Android (I don't believe they will), I'll go for a Windows Phone a million times before I even look at an iPhone. I never used to actively dislike Apple, I just wasn't very interested in their products, but recently they've really made me think they're a ****ty anti-competitive company that doesn't deserve a cent of my money. I truly hate what they're trying to do to the smartphone market.
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Whatever happens, I will hate Apple more than ever. And, if I get a second choice, I will rather get a Windows Phone than an iPhone.
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I've kind of feel the same. I never really liked apple, although I know they make good products. After lots of research and hands on experience, I've realized iOS sucks compared to android. All it has is smoothness. Android has far more features and is simpler to use in my opinion. What apple really is good at is hype. After all these lawsuits with them suing everybody for what seems like ridiculous things, it's making me really hate the company now.
Free iPhones, iPads and Macbooks for the judges, it seems!
pk92 said:
Free iPhones, iPads and Macbooks for the judges, it seems!
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Yup...maybe they bribed the judges with free new Apple products
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DD-Ripper said:
Yup...maybe they bribed the judges with free new Apple products
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I wonder why Samsung doesn't try the same thing, if I got some of those new Galaxy products for free I would want Samsung to win.
Just Another★Gamer said:
I wonder why Samsung doesn't try the same thing, if I got some of those new Galaxy products for free I would want Samsung to win.
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Because Samsung has some respect which Apple dont have. Thats why Apple is playing such cheap games on Samsung.
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I should point out, in the interests of fairness, that despite many of our suspicions regarding bribery or illicit deals there has never been the slightest evidence apple have bought legal rulings by anything other than legitimate and transparent means.
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Am i the only one that thinks that the judges are acting like that because apple is considered "All american and genuine" company to them and Samsung is an invading country that want to knock off the "GREAT" american company?
From my experience there are people that are dumb enough to act like that....
Hell Guardian said:
Am i the only one that thinks that the judges are acting like that because apple is considered "All american and genuine" company to them and Samsung is an invading country that want to knock off the "GREAT" american company?
From my experience there are people that are dumb enough to act like that....
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This thought has passed through my mind to be honest
However I don't think any of this is as simple as "Apple is American" or "bribery".
It's a broken patent system that Apple is using to try and prolong the inevitable - which is Android taking over the majority of the market for what could be decades. Apple is within their rights to attempt to use their patent portfolio to slow down the competition. This is not debatable. They are using legal means and the current system to attempt to enforce their dominance since they can no longer maintain it with product alone.
Although I am a Samsung fan and a huge supporter of Linux, Android, Google, etc. I cannot get past the picture of the Galaxy SII next to the iPhone. Side by side, it does look like they ripped them off. That is where I believe Samsung screwed up. It's not the functionality/UI patents that are troubling to me, it's the fact they made it look like the iPhone. It's almost undeniable. They encroached on brand recognition, to the point that you can't deny they look very similar. Too similar.
In my opinion, that will be the cause of Samsung's defeat. Everyone says "you can't patent rectangles or the color spectrum". But you can't rip off someone's design either. And they did, pretty plainly IMO. Why do you think there are no Black GSIII's? Samsung knows what they did, and they didn't want to risk it with their new flagship.
As far as software patents, Apply can kiss my ass. But they have the right for their product to look unique. No matter who designed something similar back in the day. No one sees a black, rectangular phone with a huge slab of glass and says "hey, that's that Sony phone prototype!". But any average person, even an elderly person who doesn't much follow tech, definitely recognize an iPhone. Unless of course, it's next to a black Galaxy SII.
Just my two cents.
ingenious247 said:
This thought has passed through my mind to be honest
However I don't think any of this is as simple as "Apple is American" or "bribery".
It's a broken patent system that Apple is using to try and prolong the inevitable - which is Android taking over the majority of the market for what could be decades. Apple is within their rights to attempt to use their patent portfolio to slow down the competition. This is not debatable. They are using legal means and the current system to attempt to enforce their dominance since they can no longer maintain it with product alone.
Although I am a Samsung fan and a huge supporter of Linux, Android, Google, etc. I cannot get past the picture of the Galaxy SII next to the iPhone. Side by side, it does look like they ripped them off. That is where I believe Samsung screwed up. It's not the functionality/UI patents that are troubling to me, it's the fact they made it look like the iPhone. It's almost undeniable. They encroached on brand recognition, to the point that you can't deny they look very similar. Too similar.
In my opinion, that will be the cause of Samsung's defeat. Everyone says "you can't patent rectangles or the color spectrum". But you can't rip off someone's design either. And they did, pretty plainly IMO. Why do you think there are no Black GSIII's? Samsung knows what they did, and they didn't want to risk it with their new flagship.
As far as software patents, Apply can kiss my ass. But they have the right for their product to look unique. No matter who designed something similar back in the day. No one sees a black, rectangular phone with a huge slab of glass and says "hey, that's that Sony phone prototype!". But any average person, even an elderly person who doesn't much follow tech, definitely recognize an iPhone. Unless of course, it's next to a black Galaxy SII.
Just my two cents.
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Samsung didn't copy the iphone though, they actually had iphone like designs the year before iphone was made public.
Are you saying that because apple used that design in public first, even though samsung had a very similar one earlier, that apple should be only one able to have anything similar "no matter who designed something similar back in the day"?
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mistermentality said:
Samsung didn't copy the iphone though, they actually had iphone like designs the year before iphone was made public.
Are you saying that because apple used that design in public first, even though samsung had a very similar one earlier, that apple should be only one able to have anything similar "no matter who designed something similar back in the day"?
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It's the phone itself in combination with the dock, square icons, general "appearance" I'm taking about. I'm sorry but it's really not debatable. It looks like a foreign clone of an iPhone.
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If worse comes to worst you know we'll just all switch to buying Chinese android devices. The Chinese system not only ignores Apple's chicanery, but has ruled in favor of several plaintiffs against Apple and allows the phones that truly are copies to be sold freely. I don't in any way foresee it coming to that but it will be a long, long time before Apple ever sees dollar one of my money and I will do whatever I can to keep an Android device in my hands.
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ingenious247 said:
It's the phone itself in combination with the dock, square icons, general "appearance" I'm taking about. I'm sorry but it's really not debatable. It looks like a foreign clone of an iPhone.
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You're not getting this. Samsung has shown (to the best of my knowledge the evidence that was tossed by Judge Koh, was legit from Samsung), that they had prior art to this style of design, the apps, the home button, the rounded corners, well before Apple ever went public with the iPhone.
I don't want to start a war here...This post is not to get people riled up, nor is this meant to be a punching bag on apple users, but I was browsing youtube and stumbled across this and couldn't stop laughing! I figured you all would enjoy it as well
While very extreme and supremely funny, there are some interesting points made here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctoLEZQDAQM
Sheesh this was a total waste of 5 minutes of my time. From the sidekick using a Mac book during an Apple rant to the talking head prick who does not know Tunisia, Egypt, and Syria from Iran.
Not even mad. nothing wrong with Apple..
Apple > Microstain imo..
Apple is for the person who wants a piece of hardware that WORKS and doesn't break.
I have nothing against apple. If I have the choice of using Windows or using Mac, I'll probably choose a Mac. While I don't like the iPhone, as many people here don't, 98% of people who aren't geeks like us and who just want a smartphone that does what they believe what a smartphone should do, then who am I to say what they should get. Now, I always recommend people to get Android devices, yes, but I'm not going to be a d*** about it. I honestly see no difference from a person who uses an iPhone and someone who uses an unrooted Android phone. They both just want a phone that works.
GroovyGeek said:
Sheesh this was a total waste of 5 minutes of my time. From the sidekick using a Mac book during an Apple rant to the talking head prick who does not know Tunisia, Egypt, and Syria from Iran.
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Didn't mean to make you upset about it. That's what I found hilarious about it. Different strokes for different folks I suppose.
His rant is a little off. He goes off about Apple, but really misses the points on why the company and its products are bad for the current technology market.
Apple isn't bad because they make over priced and locked down products, it's the persons choice if they want to purchase said products or not. Where Apple goes bad is trying to patent everything (including things they didn't come up with) and sue the competition if anything even comes close to something "they own" forcing other companies to find ways around all their patents.
Competition helps bring new technology to life as each company tries to out do the other. Apple doesn't want to compete, they want to stop other companies from being able to bring their product to the market which in turn forces technological progress to slow down.
Sell your over priced and locked down products to the people that want them, but don't take away my choices so I am forced to buy your over priced and locked down products.
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mirGantrophy said:
Not even mad. nothing wrong with Apple..
Apple > Microstain imo..
Apple is for the person who wants a piece of hardware that WORKS and doesn't break.
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Care to elaborate? I dont understand when people say they like Apple because it WORKS. Last time I checked every cell phone I've had can call/text...??
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richii0207 said:
Care to elaborate? I dont understand when people say they like Apple because it WORKS. Last time I checked every cell phone I've had can call/text...??
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The "it just works" argument, in my mind, is a valid one. Yes, most cellphones can call and text without issue, but it's about the simplicity as a whole. While all of the options to mess about with is great for us, I feel as though the average person only needs phone, text, camera, browser, and games--- and for those to work great. Even if they had the option for more, would they use it? Take a look at many average person's android phone. It is a complete mess- millions of notifications, status bar completely filled, probably a malware app on there or two. All of those things lead to instability. I just think that iOS is more average person proof.
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Care to elaborate? I dont understand when people say they like Apple because it WORKS. Last time I checked every cell phone I've had can call/text...??
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In that case im talking about OSX > Windoze.
In the phone sense, apple is for people who want a great phone that works fine out of the box, and doesn't really "need" to be unlocked/jailbroken.
Now anyone running android that doesn't root should just get an iPhone in my honest opinion
If you don't root your android phone, it too "just works."
I have both an iPhone and an android phone, and I'm really happy having both. I prefer the iPhone for games and movies, and I use the android for produtivity. I know alot of people with this setup and its becoming more and more common.
pinny.b said:
If you don't root your android phone, it too "just works."
I have both an iPhone and an android phone, and I'm really happy having both. I prefer the iPhone for games and movies, and I use the android for produtivity. I know alot of people with this setup and its becoming more and more common.
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I don't know anybody with an iphone and an android phone for that purpose. Come to think of it, the only people I know with two phones are people with their personal and work devices. If I wanted a setup similar to that it would be an android and an ipad. Cheaper and more real estate for gaming. Seems like a lot of money to have two phones even if you are switching the sim card between both.
I suppose a reason could be is that you are feeling in a gaming mood when you leave your house and don't want to lug two devices with you. Or you are going to a meeting and don't want to lug two devices. Still though, ipad is cheaper and more real estate.