My power and volume buttons feel pretty rickety, but given the product return horror stories documented here, I did not want to play roulette for what I would consider a minor concern. Outside of buying a dock, which I don't really want, I could not find a reliable "one size fits all" app solution to provide similar functionality, but with the combined efforts of these three free apps, I have captured the full functionality of the hard buttons, with little or no battery cost. If you have a better app selection, please suggest it below. I have no ties to the developers of the apps listed below, and none of these apps require root or an unlocked bootloader.
Turn off the Lights - I wanted to be able to shut off the screen quickly, and without a fuss. Most of the automatic solutions rely on the light sensor, but I could not find one with that worked well in low light. Since I use my tablet to read in bed, I had to forego the use of the light sensor, and rely simply on a soft button. It works, 'nuff said.
Volume Control Widget - This is a basic app that allows you to create volume slider widgets to control notification, alarm, and media volumes. I really only need control over media volume on a regular basis, so a basic slider widget fit the bill nicely.
Awesome On Off - Of all the solutions, I would consider this the weak link in this list. I like the app, but it relies on the gyro to give the order to turn the screen on. As you can imagine, carrying the tablet can lead to false "ons". For this reason, I set the set the "turn on angle" to require a pretty good movement from horizontal to turn on, and I did not have the app bypass the lock screen, which I have set to turn off very quickly if no unlock slide is made. In this way, the batter drain from false "ons" is somewhat mitigated.
Wave Control https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.MarksThinkTank.WaveControl
Pretty neat app. alot more configurable if u buy for a dollar. But for the basic controls its free. Thought u might want to explore this option on the on/off switching. cheers
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tobnddl said:
My power and volume buttons feel pretty rickety, but given the product return horror stories documented here, I did not want to play roulette for what I would consider a minor concern. Outside of buying a dock, which I don't really want, I could not find a reliable "one size fits all" app solution to provide similar functionality, but with the combined efforts of these three free apps, I have captured the full functionality of the hard buttons, with little or no battery cost. If you have a better app selection, please suggest it below. I have no ties to the developers of the apps listed below, and none of these apps require root or an unlocked bootloader.
Turn off the Lights - I wanted to be able to shut off the screen quickly, and without a fuss. Most of the automatic solutions rely on the light sensor, but I could not find one with that worked well in low light. Since I use my tablet to read in bed, I had to forego the use of the light sensor, and rely simply on a soft button. It works, 'nuff said.
Volume Control Widget - This is a basic app that allows you to create volume slider widgets to control notification, alarm, and media volumes. I really only need control over media volume on a regular basis, so a basic slider widget fit the bill nicely.
Awesome On Off - Of all the solutions, I would consider this the weak link in this list. I like the app, but it relies on the gyro to give the order to turn the screen on. As you can imagine, carrying the tablet can lead to false "ons". For this reason, I set the set the "turn on angle" to require a pretty good movement from horizontal to turn on, and I did not have the app bypass the lock screen, which I have set to turn off very quickly if no unlock slide is made. In this way, the batter drain from false "ons" is somewhat mitigated.
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I exchanged my Prime for the TF700 in BB last month , I started feeling my power switch extremely rickety . Took it to BB but denied Exchange or return saying that nothing is wrong , Power switch is exactly like that even in the brand new TF700. Eventhough i was within my 60 days return window ( Silver Pre member) they denied me the return .
Coming back to the topic , I am using Screen Off to switch off the screen and Awesome On off to switch back on . Only problem is Awesome On/Off keep preventing the tablet from going into deep sleep. Need to play around with settings ...
First off, screw Best Buy, and second, it is interesting that a rickety volume switch is not cause for return. That's a real bummer for the money that we all have paid. Generally speaking, I am very happy with the hardware, but when I hit buttons/volume on my wife's ipad 3, they have a more secure feel, like they will still work after 10,000 presses. I don't get that same fuzzy feeling with our tablet, but I guess that's life. How are you monitoring your CPU use...CPU Spy or something else?
for volume control when you're using the tablet i recommend this app, it works awesomely and has options to configure.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...wiY29tLlR3aW5CbGFkZS5TdGF0dXNWb2x1bWVQbHVzIl0.
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I exchanged my Prime for the TF700 in BB last month , I started feeling my power switch extremely rickety . Took it to BB but denied Exchange or return saying that nothing is wrong , Power switch is exactly like that even in the brand new TF700. Eventhough i was within my 60 days return window ( Silver Pre member) they denied me the return .
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If they wouldn't allow you to return it for the power button, I would have just said 'Ok, then I'm just not happy with the product, and want to return it'. Then, just buy another one... Last time I checked, you really don't need a "reason" to return something - you can return it simply because you don't like it, for example...
I found it pretty strange when returning a tablet to Best Buy once for a hardware defect - they seem to go out of their way to actually make sure the device turns on before accepting the return - why do they do that?? What would they do if it wouldn't turn on?? If it's defective, it's defective - who cares if it actually turns on or not? If it *doesn't* turn on, then that's even more of a reason to return it! Am I missing something here?!?
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First off, screw Best Buy, and second, it is interesting that a rickety volume switch is not cause for return. That's a real bummer for the money that we all have paid. Generally speaking, I am very happy with the hardware, but when I hit buttons/volume on my wife's ipad 3, they have a more secure feel, like they will still work after 10,000 presses. I don't get that same fuzzy feeling with our tablet, but I guess that's life. How are you monitoring your CPU use...CPU Spy or something else?
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Yes I am using CPU spy to monitor . In BB their argument was , even if i exchange for a new TF700 the volume buttons are going to be same .. strange . I did not want to argue too much sine the manager lady was too rude . I just took my tablet and came out.
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If they wouldn't allow you to return it for the power button, I would have just said 'Ok, then I'm just not happy with the product, and want to return it'. Then, just buy another one... Last time I checked, you really don't need a "reason" to return something - you can return it simply because you don't like it, for example...
I found it pretty strange when returning a tablet to Best Buy once for a hardware defect - they seem to go out of their way to actually make sure the device turns on before accepting the return - why do they do that?? What would they do if it wouldn't turn on?? If it's defective, it's defective - who cares if it actually turns on or not? If it *doesn't* turn on, then that's even more of a reason to return it! Am I missing something here?!?
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Yes i tried also, I told then i am returning this and pick a Samsung Note 10.1 , The manager lady told she won't allow me to exchange since this is my second return in 2 months , i don't know , if there is a rule like that. she was pretty rude , i was tired of explaining to Customer service / Geek Squad / manager , Just took my Infinity and walked out .
They always switch on and check , don't know why.
zentaw said:
Wave Control https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.MarksThinkTank.WaveControl
Pretty neat app. alot more configurable if u buy for a dollar. But for the basic controls its free. Thought u might want to explore this option on the on/off switching. cheers
Skicka Wave Control t från min ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T via Tapatalk 2
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Regarding the Wave Control app suggested above, I could not get this to work. Am I mistaken, or is there no proximity sensor in the Infinity? If mine does not respond as it should, I want to return it. If not, how does this app detect a wave?
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Yes i tried also, I told then i am returning this and pick a Samsung Note 10.1 , The manager lady told she won't allow me to exchange since this is my second return in 2 months , i don't know , if there is a rule like that. she was pretty rude , i was tired of explaining to Customer service / Geek Squad / manager , Just took my Infinity and walked out .
They always switch on and check , don't know why.
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That's BS - I would definitely go to a different Best Buy from now on! If still in your return period, just go to a different location - that lady was feeding you BS... You should have no problem returning it as long as you are within the return period and have a receipt.
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That's BS - I would definitely go to a different Best Buy from now on! If still in your return period, just go to a different location - that lady was feeding you BS... You should have no problem returning it as long as you are within the return period and have a receipt.
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Yes , thought about it. Then thought of giving one more chance to Infinity , except the Power swich little loose , my infinity is perfect. JB update should be around the corner , so just waiting for JB update .
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Yes , thought about it. Then thought of giving one more chance to Infinity , except the Power swich little loose , my infinity is perfect. JB update should be around the corner , so just waiting for JB update .
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Yeah, Definately dont settle for mediocre for a brand new tablet... itll haunt you for as long as you own your tablet.. Apparently, you are dissatisfied with the product and they have no excuse to refuse the return as long as you are in your window of return. I would have called the manager and complained they are refusing for something that is written on their site as an acceptable excuse of return. When I had my infinity the volume rocker was wierd too, the down button would click once and the up had no clicking but was hard to control the amount of volume and when I pushed it the volume would go all the was to max. I would go to your premier site and print out the 60 day return policy, march back to that bestbuy and show it to their face the policy if they deny you right to return.
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Yeah, Definately dont settle for mediocre for a brand new tablet... itll haunt you for as long as you own your tablet.. Apparently, you are dissatisfied with the product and they have no excuse to refuse the return as long as you are in your window of return. I would have called the manager and complained they are refusing for something that is written on their site as an acceptable excuse of return. When I had my infinity the volume rocker was wierd too, the down button would click once and the up had no clicking but was hard to control the amount of volume and when I pushed it the volume would go all the was to max. I would go to your premier site and print out the 60 day return policy, march back to that bestbuy and show it to their face the policy if they deny you right to return.
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Ya, I still have 3 weeks for my 60 days return window.... if no JB till the end , I will retun and get a brand new Infinity or Samsung Note 10.1 . Not decided yet... loll
tobnddl said:
Regarding the Wave Control app suggested above, I could not get this to work. Am I mistaken, or is there no proximity sensor in the Infinity? If mine does not respond as it should, I want to return it. If not, how does this app detect a wave?
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There is no proximity sensor in the Tf700 .
You might also find Power Switch interesting for the path you're following with your Infinity.
BTW, I've added a link to this thread to the best apps sticky thread (running out of space there, so won't list the apps themselves).
tobnddl said:
Regarding the Wave Control app suggested above, I could not get this to work. Am I mistaken, or is there no proximity sensor in the Infinity? If mine does not respond as it should, I want to return it. If not, how does this app detect a wave?
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If you were able to install Wave Control then your device is telling the Play Store you do have a proximity sensor otherwise it wouldn't show up since it's a hardware requirement. (Or your'e on a custom ROM that doesn't report its features properly)
Someone on a different Transformer model, forget which one there are so many now, had the app work for a while but then it stop working. Turns out there is a sensor (on that model and probably this one too) but had been disabled by Asus in a software update.
Seems like they included it but then didn't want to use it and so disabled it. Maybe it was for a smart cover feature but went with the magnetic sensor instead.
The problem with any of those solutions is that a widget can't be used to change the volume in game or movie. I need the ability to do that and the only way would be to pull it to the system tray like the stock brightness control is.
spinaldex said:
The problem with any of those solutions is that a widget can't be used to change the volume in game or movie. I need the ability to do that and the only way would be to pull it to the system tray like the stock brightness control is.
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Take a look at a app I recently found called "1Tap Quick Bar" - you can put all sort of stuff (including sound control) directly in your system bar - it is a really nice and useful app.
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spinaldex said:
The problem with any of those solutions is that a widget can't be used to change the volume in game or movie. I need the ability to do that and the only way would be to pull it to the system tray like the stock brightness control is.
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here you go https://play.google.com/store/apps/...wiY29tLlR3aW5CbGFkZS5TdGF0dXNWb2x1bWVQbHVzIl0
d14b0ll0s said:
You might also find Power Switch interesting for the path you're following with your Infinity.
BTW, I've added a link to this thread to the best apps sticky thread (running out of space there, so won't list the apps themselves).
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Power Switch lite/demo doesn't seem to work for me, not sure if I want to pay to try more options.
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nooktablet said:
here you go https://play.google.com/store/apps/...wiY29tLlR3aW5CbGFkZS5TdGF0dXNWb2x1bWVQbHVzIl0
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Just what i was looking for. When power cord is plugged in, volume switches are on bottem and in a case are hard to get to. Everything I've tried before shut what ever was playing down and video needed restart. I just tried this with hulu and video kept playing.
Thanks
Woody
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Hey Guys,
An old-school alpha-geek, I started on a Radio Shack TRS-80 model 100 (Holy cow I should have kept that) and most recently an iPad 3G. I lead with this factoid only to suggest that I am comfortable with touch screen GUIs. -{)}
With the stock ROM my brand new G Tablet , Screen tapping does not register 20% of the time. Specifically when I press my finger on an icon it often does not launch.
This did not change with the "status update" Viewsonic pushed.
Is this behavior something I should get used to or should I expect a Vegan, tnt, etc ROM flash to rectify?
TIA!
Bill
mildness said:
Hey Guys,
An old-school alpha-geek, I started on a Radio Shack TRS-80 model 100 (Holy cow I should have kept that) and most recently an iPad 3G. I lead with this factoid only to suggest that I am comfortable with touch screen GUIs. -{)}
With the stock ROM my brand new G Tablet , Screen tapping does not register 20% of the time. Specifically when I press my finger on an icon it often does not launch.
This did not change with the "status update" Viewsonic pushed.
Is this behavior something I should get used to or should I expect a Vegan, tnt, etc ROM flash to rectify?
TIA!
Bill
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see if Gojimi's calibration app helps?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=934500
mildness,
1. No, I would not call that normal. I do think my tablets work better with a firm press of the pad of the end of my finger than with a tap (aka, fingernail?). If it continues and you don't find a solution, I would look at return or swap options.
2. When I got my first tablet, which was way back in November, I barely could get the offscreen search/home/menu buttons to work. I was frustrated and tried everything. Then one day I installed another version -- not sure whether it was an OTA update or a ROM -- and suddenly it was fine!!!! Don't know why.
I know this doesn't "answer" your question -- but I hope I have given you ideas to work with.
Rev
My screen seems unresponsive when it is cold. That usually means right after I boot it up. Once it warms up it seems to work much better.
I didn't notice this when I first purchased it, back in the first week of November. But it was much warmer outside then, and I keep my home cool to keep costs down.
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see if Gojimi's calibration app helps?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=934500
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Indeed, it's either this or a defective unit, better exchange it if cal doesn't change a thing...
P.S.
When calibrating, I noticed sometime it was not perfect, so sometime it need a few shot to be perfect, but if you do not see a difference then it's probably defective...
I had the same problem. Search my name and look for a post that I made including directions from another site on how to calibrate your screen.
I am at breakfast now or I would post the link. I was the same way you work and we're just about to return my G tablet. This fixed it 100%.
Just so that you know it is the right post it involves placing a blank calibration.ini file on your sdcard and sdcard 2.
Good luck!
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Just got my new TF700. Major, major touchscreen issues. But these are weird... At first it looked very much like hardware fault but the more I try and use it the more I think its software.
First off, the left hand side not as good as the right hand side. Its first turn on was not usable and its been getting little better as the hours go by. 2 days in now. Done the normal re format, drain battery and also got it warmed right up with a good turn off also. ( Elec Blanket worked great for this controlled warmup ) Nothing has made a direct impact as some others have claimed on the whole Transformer range.
Ive had to take a video of what's happening. I've turned the developer options on to indicate when the digitizer detects the touch and also the indicator when the system responses to this touch. There is clearly a delay in when the system reacts to my touch. But sadly not as clean cut as this as sometimes the digilazer doesn't even sense my touch. Notice the left hand side not as good but still does work sometimes.
http://youtu.be/aslnYafGLf0
To me there is clearly a software issue with this delay. The system response times vary's heaps especially with 10 point touches. But at other moments its not detecting my finger at all... Ive read a lot of TF101 firmware upgades have created touches not to get detected also. Still software going on here ?
My issues with Asus and repair .... I brought this from USA and brought it to New Zealand over night. Big risk yes but it does have the Asus international warranty. 2 days after the invoice date NZ has to say it can be a repair only. I understand NZ doesnt have this yet but this is a huge kick for me as the turn around time is 5 to 8 weeks to repair my 2 day old product. They will import a new screen in but not DOA on receipt date. That hurts Asus but what if its your firmware ? Could it be fixed by the firmware first ? Its nice having a RMA number already as the NZ guys are great but I dont want to be their first TF700 to pull apart as it will never be the same.
I dont feel I can root it to test it some more as they might run away from warranty. Im stuck.... My first Asus product not been a motherboard and not happy with the evidence in front of me guys, please help me out.
Holy crap, that is ridiculous! Dunno what it might be, but I would try PM-ing that vid link to one of the Asus guys on XDA.
Kezzainc said:
Just got my new TF700. Major, major touchscreen issues. But these are weird... At first it looked very much like hardware fault but the more I try and use it the more I think its software.
First off, the left hand side not as good as the right hand side. Its first turn on was not usable and its been getting little better as the hours go by. 2 days in now. Done the normal re format, drain battery and also got it warmed right up with a good turn off also. ( Elec Blanket worked great for this controlled warmup ) Nothing has made a direct impact as some others have claimed on the whole Transformer range.
Ive had to take a video of what's happening. I've turned the developer options on to indicate when the digitizer detects the touch and also the indicator when the system responses to this touch. There is clearly a delay in when the system reacts to my touch. But sadly not as clean cut as this as sometimes the digilazer doesn't even sense my touch. Notice the left hand side not as good but still does work sometimes.
http://youtu.be/aslnYafGLf0
To me there is clearly a software issue with this delay. The system response times vary's heaps especially with 10 point touches. But at other moments its not detecting my finger at all... Ive read a lot of TF101 firmware upgades have created touches not to get detected also. Still software going on here ?
My issues with Asus and repair .... I brought this from USA and brought it to New Zealand over night. Big risk yes but it does have the Asus international warranty. 2 days after the invoice date NZ has to say it can be a repair only. I understand NZ doesnt have this yet but this is a huge kick for me as the turn around time is 5 to 8 weeks to repair my 2 day old product. They will import a new screen in but not DOA on receipt date. That hurts Asus but what if its your firmware ? Could it be fixed by the firmware first ? Its nice having a RMA number already as the NZ guys are great but I dont want to be their first TF700 to pull apart as it will never be the same.
I dont feel I can root it to test it some more as they might run away from warranty. Im stuck.... My first Asus product not been a motherboard and not happy with the evidence in front of me guys, please help me out.
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The touch indicator has always been laggy. In actual usage, touches register pretty well.
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jdeoxys said:
The touch indicator has always been laggy. In actual usage, touches register pretty well.
Sent from my FHD porn machine.
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At times its not laggy at all on this tablet. Cheers,
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At times its not laggy at all on this tablet. Cheers,
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What? I thought it was always laggy. (By touch indicator I mean the line drawing thing you enable in dev settings)
This sounds as nothing a good custom ROM shouldn't be able to fix. (Unlocked bootloader has been released today! )
My HTC One X 4.1.1 never has any lag at all. Asus TF300 has a little but not inconsistent like this. The very edge of the screen is the hardest to even work and pushing to maximise finger area helps. But its the not even seeing touches and a long swipes does not work as it cant stay locked on.... Pinch to zoom very crazy because of this.
But its looking like I am the only one which is saying hardware ?
**** Update : Wow this is a huge epic fail from Asus. My patience is fully coming to an end. Asus have not done a single thing for me on this fault that makes it unusable.
I have a software issue. Its very clear it is now. Lastnight I did another hardreset to try and get this .26 update. For the first time ever it worked, 100% worked on its first boot up. I had a really really happy half hour with it and man it felt good knowing I didnt buy the most expecince tablet dud on the market. But, I did a standby power once and Boom, back to its crap unusable old ways.
So 100% working after reset then one power down resets it to its old ways. When it did work for that 30mins its was 100% working.
Gary and Tien from Asus. These guys have both repied to me. They are not the big Asus people at all, they are just USA Asus. They havnt even done anything for me at all. A huge let down as they make themselves sound like they can help. My unit is a USA unit. They have not asked me to do any tests, offer me a test firmware or even a better video. Or ask what hardware versions I have, simple nothing and taking the piss of what they are offering to this advance community here. Not even an email saying the new update is coming out that may help.
The really bad part about this is its quite clear that the .26 update talks about upgrading the touch FW. Tien emailed me this morning saying they cant even give me a copy of this public released FW for me to fix my problems.
EPIC EPIC FAIL FROM ASUS.
What should I do everyone as im starting to think about getting on a hill a shouting this out to more than just this forum.
( first 'bad' forum post in my life like this )
Kezzainc said:
**** Update : Wow this is a huge epic fail from Asus. My patience is fully coming to an end. Asus have not done a single thing for me on this fault that makes it unusable.
I have a software issue. Its very clear it is now. Lastnight I did another hardreset to try and get this .26 update. For the first time ever it worked, 100% worked on its first boot up. I had a really really happy half hour with it and man it felt good knowing I didnt buy the most expecince tablet dud on the market. But, I did a standby power once and Boom, back to its crap unusable old ways.
So 100% working after reset then one power down resets it to its old ways. When it did work for that 30mins its was 100% working.
Gary and Tien from Asus. These guys have both repied to me. They are not the big Asus people at all, they are just USA Asus. They havnt even done anything for me at all. A huge let down as they make themselves sound like they can help. My unit is a USA unit. They have not asked me to do any tests, offer me a test firmware or even a better video. Or ask what hardware versions I have, simple nothing and taking the piss of what they are offering to this advance community here. Not even an email saying the new update is coming out that may help.
The really bad part about this is its quite clear that the .26 update talks about upgrading the touch FW. Tien emailed me this morning saying they cant even give me a copy of this public released FW for me to fix my problems.
EPIC EPIC FAIL FROM ASUS.
What should I do everyone as im starting to think about getting on a hill a shouting this out to more than just this forum.
( first 'bad' forum post in my life like this )
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I've downloaded several touch screen test apps and I'm not seeing the issues you're experiencing. I have noticed that some apps perform better than others, but that's about it. I'm thinking that you just got a bad unit.
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Dude, just return it for a new one if you still can.
Hey guys, dont want to bring this post up again but think I need to to close it off.
I have a fully working unit now. The .26 software update has fixed it completely.
I am pleased I stuck to my feeling of what it was. Fully credit to XDA again with getting this update as that really was weird it not on Asus's website for the guys who really did need it. I waited for the XDA Asus guys but sadly ended with no reply on my email asking for a copy of the update.
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Hey guys, dont want to bring this post up again but think I need to to close it off.
I have a fully working unit now. The .26 software update has fixed it completely.
I am pleased I stuck to my feeling of what it was. Fully credit to XDA again with getting this update as that really was weird it not on Asus's website for the guys who really did need it. I waited for the XDA Asus guys but sadly ended with no reply on my email asking for a copy of the update.
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Hey, it's always nice to hear that a case actually went over to the "Resolved" bin for a change (and all that on a stock ROM update instead of the custom ROM I had put my stake on, hehe). I'd rather have threads like these revived for messages like these than the dozens of useless threads that are cropping up on XDA re-chewing regurgitated (and partly decomposed) matters.
I'm glad it worked out so well for you, and wish you all the best and a happy forum forum presence and participation in the coming future.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T
The help that XDA provides is what led me to it in the first place. XDA is teh bestest. I'm thinking about a manual infinity update myself.
There should be a motto for XDA like "XDA: Where the awesome happens!"
Hi All,
I live in Australia and received my TF700 from the US yesterday. I charged it up and then attempted to do the initial configuration where it asks you to choose a language. However the touch screen does not appear to be working – it is not responding anywhere I touch so cannot continue past this screen. Have tried cold booting (power and volume down key) multiple times but no change. I am guessing it is DOA – or is there a chance it is firmware related? I am reluctant to send back to the US as it is going to cost a fair bit...
I am going to borrow a mates keyboard dock and see if I can continue past this screen with that and then hopefully install latest firmware. It is the only thing I can think of...
Does anyone have any suggestions?
Thanks
I've recently noticed another touchscreen "issue". Apparently, the digitizer is either incompatible with the screen resolution or just a software bug. When you scroll really really slowly, you can tell it's jumping by a few pixels at a time. When you fling though, it is completely smooth. This does not affect actual usage whatsoever but I do think its an interesting thing to point out.
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Keion said:
I've recently noticed another touchscreen "issue". Apparently, the digitizer is either incompatible with the screen resolution or just a software bug. When you scroll really really slowly, you can tell it's jumping by a few pixels at a time. When you fling though, it is completely smooth. This does not affect actual usage whatsoever but I do think its an interesting thing to point out.
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I can't reproduce that effect. Can you explain a bit more?
Mines seems to be too sensitive. I put my finger as close as I can put it to the screen and it activates whatever icon is under my finger. Doesn't annoy me only when I get near the bottom right of the screen and the panel pops up.
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Mines seems to be too sensitive. I put my finger as close as I can put it to the screen and it activates whatever icon is under my finger. Doesn't annoy me only when I get near the bottom right of the screen and the panel pops up.
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Good capacitive screen. You are electric, lol.
Hi Guys - thanks for the advice I appreciate it - however I decided to bite the bullet as I was dreading sending this thing back to the US etc... Anyway - so my touch screen was not working at all - so I borrowed a keyboard dock from a friend (lucky I had this option), and could then proceed to configure the device (using the keyboard of course). I then manually downloaded and installed the .26 firmware and hey presto it's a miracle - the touch screen now works perfectly! So it was a risk but I am glad I had a crack anyway. So hopefully no-one has the same issue as me but if so then this might be worth a try.
Thanks again for any feedback.
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I can't reproduce that effect. Can you explain a bit more?
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1. Open up chrome.
2. Swipe down without lifting finger off.
3. Scrutinize the motions extremely closely while moving your finger as slow as you can.
You should notice multipixel (2 or 3) jumps.
I've seen a few hit or miss issues that have been coming to light since the release of the TF700 infinity. On some devices, it seems to work and on others, not as well or not at all. From this, it seemed quite necessary to have a thread to identify the issues that others may encounter and for what they should check to know if they have a "good device" or whether it should be returned. Please let me know if their are any items that should be related to this list. If you wish to discuss your tablet's attributes (both good and bad) further, Pretoriano80 has made such a thread: [Infinity issues/defects/good features] Share your issues, defects or best features
Make sure you charge your tablet before using! Explanation in point 3.
Also, do not update past 9.4.5.26 during these tests if you want to use NVFlash!
1- Does your device have good build quality?
Some people have found that there are scratches on the device, frame's bent, the display is poorly set, the ports may be improperly mounted or other such things. It is recommended that if you encounter any of these that you return the device to get another one since you paid a lot of money for a "good" device. The tablet might click at corners, some of the backlight might bleed through around the edges of the display, or maybe show a slight but often not serious protrusion of the screen from the device. It's up to you to judge whether the extremity of this occurrence on your device are serious enough to warrant a return depending on your definition of "quality".
A possible test for "light bleed" is to take a picture from the camera in either a dark room or the camera lens covered (objective is to take a "black" photo). Open the image in the gallery app and turn up the brightness on the device. In this fashion you should be able to notice any "severe" cases of light bleed like this. If the light bleed is little and only noticeable during startup, then it's probably nothing to worry about.
2- Does your device have haptic feedback? (Does it vibrate properly?)
When you turn on and off your device, it should vibrate. This vibration will be subtle like the feeling of a working electrical appliance and not like a console joystick. If it doesn't, then it probably is defective. There are various methods to getting some type of jiggle out of the tablet if you want a more extensive test. One example is to add such feedback to your on-screen keyboard via Settings -> Language & Input. I'll just go over the basic "Android Keyboard". Select the sliders button next to the keyboard, look for "vibrate on keypress", put a little check next to that, then go into "advanced settings". By default, these vibrations are set to 1ms which is a duration too short to provide any feedback. Adjust the "Keypress vibration duration settings" to something like 100ms in order to ensure that the buzz happens. Finally, verify that your default keyboard is set to the "Android Keyboard" and then open up something like SuperNote where you can type. You should have some buzzing upon every keypress. When done with this test, just go back into the keyboard settings and disable the "vibrate on keypress".
3- Is your battery life ~9 hours in power-saving mode or ~6 hours in balanced mode?
Some people have noticed that they either never reach this amount or never come close to it. This is kind of an expected behavior since on the first page of the instructions manual (you did read the manual, right?) it mentions this:
"Fully charge the battery up to eight hours for the first-time use. The battery reaches its maximum capacity after one full charging and discharging cycle." Therefore, one is supposed to charge the battery for up to an 8 hour period prior to use and then discharge the battery (until ~10% or so). You may encounter a variant of this concerning "a few cycles" but still, right after tearing the plastic off the box like a rapid child at Christmas, ensure that you just plug it in and forget about it for 8 hours (or until the charging light turns off). Otherwise, it can have a lasting negative impact on battery life.
More information about Li-ion can be found here.
4- Does the GPS work?
The TF700 shares a few things with the TF201 Prime (which had notoriously bad wireless, including Wifi communication, Bluetooth, and GPS). Some owners of the Prime didn't remember to check GPS even when everything else worked and later needed to get a Dongle. Ergo, why I put it here high on the list. I believe many of the issues dealing with hardware and software have been addressed by ASUS so if your GPS doesn't work, try updating (not past 9.4.5.26!) the device or send it back since it might be hardware related. Make sure that when testing, you have the "find location via wifi" option turned off if using Maps. Otherwise, test with a tool from Google Play Store like GPS Status or GPS Test. Note: testing may involve going outside and dancing with the device as the first connection is often the most difficult to get.
When GPS is working, you should see a little circle with a blinking dot inside in the lower right-hand corner. Sometimes, the dot might not blink and can seem to influence how well GPS programs work. Its a strange thing but with a simple solution (from myself encountering it on both the TF300 and the TF700): just open the notifications bar and close it again. The dot should be blinking. If not, try actually turning off and then turning back on the GPS via the notifications bar.
5- Does mini-HDMI work?
Though not necessarily a tendency of faults in the infinity, it is important to check all the offered functionality of the device prior to making it a permanent fixture in your life. Remember that if you don't have a friend with a mini-HDMI cable, Walmart (and many other stores) will accept returns provided they are within a particular time period. Feel free to use this return policy to test your device.
6- Can you watch video/youtube/netflix/etc while using a bluetooth headset?
Some people have noticed that there is a huge decrease in speed when watching a video while using a bluetooth headset for audio. The cause of this is unknown and the only explanation we know of is "because wifi and bluetooth share the same antenna". This seems plausible except that many other devices also use the same antenna for both functionalities yet do not display this behavior. Due to the underlying fact we do not know whether it is software or hardware related, it is advisable to return the product.
7- Does the headphone jack work?
Just for thoroughness and ease-of-testing, plug in a set of ear buds and make sure you hear sound. Some have complained that the quality is mediocre due to a humming noise but that the noise is negligible. If the noise is too pronounced, there still is the mounted speaker and if point 6's test was successful, bluetooth is still an option.
8- Does your device feel quick to respond? If not, are you on firmware version .26?
It has been widely noted that version .26 of the firmware made the tablet very snappy. This also helped the device to recognize more microSD cards but also caused problems with NTFS-formatted drives. If you aren't getting the response you want, try upgrading to .26 (not beyond that). Additionally, if your microSD card is NTFS, you may want to reformat it (backup whatever you want to keep first) to FAT32 or exFAT until the issues with NTFS are ironed out. This point also concerns point 9 further down.
9- Can you receive OTA updates? (This should be fixed since Aug 7)
Provided that you are on version .21 or .22, you should be able to receive updates from ASUS for your device via the "About Tablet" option in settings. If you cannot, this might be indicative of another issue which has yet to be identified. You can apply updates without OTA via these methods:
(easiest way)[HOW TO]Tired to wait the .26 with WW TF700 device?
(another way)*** Firmware News & Alternative Install Methods*** Ver. 9.4.5.26 27/07
(requires root)[HOWTO] Manually updating firmware using "dlpkgfile" download via Asus FOTA server
(requires unlocked bootloader)[HowTo] Restore Stock Recovery and Install .26 OTA Manually with Unlocked Bootloader
(requires unlocked bootloader and TWRP custom recovery)[CWM] Repackaged OTA update 9.4.5.26 US/WW versions
Make sure you do not update past 9.4.5.26 if you want to use NVFlash!
10- (Only if this is important to you and then only if you are willing to forego any ASUS warranty) Can you unlock the bootloader? (This should be fixed since Aug 7)
Bonus Warning: ASUS has noted that using their bootloader unlocker will void your warranty and all OTA updates for your device will cease. However, without this unlocking, you will not be able to run custom ROMs nor will you be able to use NVFlash to make your device brick-proof.
[Device is unlocked][Video Added] Bootloader Unlock Tool Released [25.7.2012]
If you are still within your store's "grace period", you may want to try this out to verify if your device will ever be able to run non-ASUS android systems. There's no way of knowing at this moment if the bootloader unlocker will work on your device without actually trying to unlock it. If it does not work, it might be due to their service being unavailable, your serial number might not yet be in their database of devices for the unlock to succeed, your device serial number internally might not match your external serial number (on the sticker), or the problem might be something else entirely. Many of those whose bootloader would not unlock did not receive OTAs either so this shares the "issue which has yet to be identified" from point 9.
If you can give your tab a :good: to all of these points, then you have a good device! Congratulations! :highfive:
Maybe check out these threads next:
[INDEX]-[Updated -25 July 2012]-ASUS INFINITY TF700 - INDEX THREAD-DEVELOPMENT-PART#1
[RESOURCES] How to Root, Unlock, ROMs, Recovery, Tips & more [VIDEO TUTORIALS]
1.Yes
2.Yes
3.Yes
4.didn't try that yet
5.yes
6.yes
7.I don't care
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Yep, mines a keeper.
Build quality is acceptable .. (I own an ipad also) ...I'm going to say 80% the build quality of the ipad. It does OTA and manual updates just fine. Headphone jack works. Has slight click if you press the screen by the speaker ...but only noticable because I read here that it clicks if you press by the speaker . Speed, temps, light bleed, battery life ....all as expected ...not perfect but perfectly acceptable. I am enjoying the tablet, and have no major complaints. I can only assume it will get better with JB when it comes out.
The ipad is more polished, faster, easier to use ....but not by a huge margin. And I make allowance for the immaturity of android tablets and the OS compared to ipad and iOS. I think the trade off is worth it for the additional control... and eventual rooting of the device.
Price ....hmmmm... perhaps a bit high compared to the ipad.... about $75 less would have been nice ....but it's basically a toy for me so I can't complain too much. And part of the whole thing is I wanted a tablet....and I wanted to support the Android market so it would stand a better chance at competing with the ipad... because honestly I think Andriod is the future of tablets ...not iOS.
I'd say the single disappointment is ....I bought the tablet to watch motorcycle racing videos from MotoGP.com, which I pay about $120 US a year to be a member ..... guess what...the tablet will not play the archived videos from this site ....it will stream live video fine, it will play all other "current" content fine...but will not play the archived videos ...... my iPad plays them just fine. I'm in contact with MotoGP.com trying to solve the problem ...but it's not a new problem ....its across the Asus tablet line.
Still.... I enjoy the TF700T, and think it's a good product ....although perhaps should be offered at a bit more of a discount compared to the iPad ....for now.
I have no regrets.
JohnnyB
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1.Yes
2.Yes
3.Yes
4.didn't try that yet
5.yes
6.yes
7.I don't care
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Just want to mention these numbers are apt to change due to new things becoming evident as community use increases.
dataway said:
I'd say the single disappointment is ....I bought the tablet to watch motorcycle racing videos from MotoGP.com, which I pay about $120 US a year to be a member ..... guess what...the tablet will not play the archived videos from this site ....it will stream live video fine, it will play all other "current" content fine...but will not play the archived videos ...... my iPad plays them just fine. I'm in contact with MotoGP.com trying to solve the problem ...but it's not a new problem ....its across the Asus tablet line.
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This thread is really just supposed to be a developing checklist for people to verify their tablets since it seems that not all problems are experienced by all users and some problems are more extreme than others. That being noted, how did you try to access said videos? Is there a specific program or application you are required to use? Did you try other such programs from the Play store? Since you are paying for your access, I doubt it would be something that a non-member would be able to assist much.
Yes it is a keeper
Plays HD content flawlessly
The GPS is sooper dup on the road
The WIFI sensitivity is exceptional
Can be viewed outside easily
I really like the hotspot tethering performance also
Pretty much a sweet package
I use it a lot around the house to help me with DIY project info...
1- Does your device have good build quality?
10/10, clicks a a little but IDGTF.
2- Does the GPS work?
Yes.jfif
3- Does mini-HDMI work?
Never tested, never will.
4- Can you watch video/youtube/netflix/etc while using a bluetooth headset?
>2012
>bluetooth headphones
ISHYGDDT
5- Does the headphone jack work?
Yes, makes beeping rarely when I start videos.
6- Does your device feel quick to respond? If not, are you on firmware version .26?
Yes, like butter. I still want jelly Bean though.
7- Is your battery life ~9 hours in power-saving mode or ~6 hours in balanced mode?
6 hours in balanced, yes. Never go to power saving because lag.
8- Can you receive OTA updates?
No, bootloader unlocked.
9- (Only if this is important to you and then only if you are willing to forego any ASUS warranty) Can you unlock the bootloader?
Already did
The only issue I've really had with my device after upgrading to .26 is occasional lock-ups. One lock-up concerned me enough to feel a need to return the device. The screen filled with vertical (if holding landscape) white bars. Has anyone else experienced such issues?
I haven't tested the HDMI yet. And other then the inability to OTA or unlock everything is working perfectly on the latest build
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funtapaz said:
The only issue I've really had with my device after upgrading to .26 is occasional lock-ups. One lock-up concerned me enough to feel a need to return the device. The screen filled with vertical (if holding landscape) white bars. Has anyone else experienced such issues?
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My friend found one at Best Buy here in NJ. I told him to return it (not exchange) because of the amount of light bleed alone. He was not able to update it, and it just kept crashing on him which made it almost impossible to use. He's going to try hard reset it again to see if any of that helps.
1- Does your device have good build quality?
Mine is perfect.
2- Does the GPS work?
GPS so far works great without using the AGPS to assist.
3- Does mini-HDMI work?
Have a cable from my Prime, both worked flawlessly as does my Bionic.
4- Can you watch video/youtube/netflix/etc while using a bluetooth headset?
Funny thing it does drop from about 20 Mbps to about 3Mbps down, but that won't change no matter how far from the router. The upload is 4Mbps on both no matter how far from the router. It's not the dual antenna that's the problem, it's that they both use one controller chip for the two.
5- Does the headphone jack work?
No problems on mine.
6- Does your device feel quick to respond? If not, are you on firmware version .26?
Was definitely laggy on .21, on .26 MUCH better especially in performance mode. I'm excited for JB.
7- Is your battery life ~9 hours in power-saving mode or ~6 hours in balanced mode?
I charged about 4 hrs till green/fully charged. Funny thing is you can't overcharge these new batteries now and days. They are set to auto stop charging once full (that's the benefit of them now) So I have never "overcharged" because it's not possible. That being said I did a full charge, and am working on the first full depletion to recharge. I'm at 62% and that's 3 days later lol. I have been using it light/moderate the past few days. At least 3.5 hrs of Netflix streaming, setting it up, and not turning it off overnight. We'll see but so far so good and Ifinitely (like that ) better than my Prime.
8- Can you receive OTA updates?
Not OTA, manual worked just fine
Good list, thanks. Mine has passed all of these so far but the headphone test. I forgot that one. I guess I'll give it a shot tonight.
" "Fully charge the battery up to eight hours for the first-time use. The battery reaches its maximum capacity after one full charging and discharging cycle.""
It says" upto 8 hours" It doesn't mean you NEED the full 8 hours. Once you go green and are 100% fully charged, the charger shuts down on its own so not to overheat the battery. The "upto 8 hours" is for folks charging their device via USB on their PC - - which can take up to 8 hours to getting that full charge.
I just got mine yesterday, and while I haven't had time to test either HDMI or full battery cycle (though it's doing pretty well so far) all else is wonderful. Great screen, OTA update to build 26, great wifi and gps, headphones work fine. Sound out of headphones and BT headset is actually great. I do have a millisecond lag with BT audio and watching streaming video, but I could actually live with it, it's not that bad.
This one is definitely a keeper.
I have a quick question while I'm checking my tablet, which arrived yesterday... my screen is uniform across the edge, no creaking or inconsistencies, but the entire surface is raised, or at least isn't flush like my previous Prime. Is that normal? Anyone have a completely flushed screen on their 700? Thanks.
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androidxen said:
I have a quick question while I'm checking my tablet, which arrived yesterday... my screen is uniform across the edge, no creaking or inconsistencies, but the entire surface is raised, or at least isn't flush like my previous Prime. Is that normal? Anyone have a completely flushed screen on their 700? Thanks.
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My Gorilla glass has about a quarter inch beveled edge going all the way around
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My Gorilla glass has about a quarter inch beveled edge going all the way around
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So I guess the screen is higher due to the hardware improvements from the Prime. Good to know, just wanted to be cautious.
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My Gorilla glass has about a quarter inch beveled edge going all the way around
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Same here - more like 1/16th inch, maybe?
Mine looks perfect, but if I press a bit harder on the screen (you won't do this with normal usage) I get a hissing noice which sound like air is escaping from between the screen. At that moment I can see deformations on the screen. I have read other people do have the same issue, but wondering if this is normal (so all TF700 have it?) or if I should exchange. Any advice?
I have one really big scratch on the dockingstation. Going back to the store tomorrow to get another one.
Added xRevilatioNx's and neo1738's clarification regarding initial battery charge and the green charging light turning off.
Yeah, I agree with you that the new batteries can't be overcharged in the literal sense. It was merely to emphasize the fact that a "full charge" is necessary to receive optimum life out of the device's battery. We don't really know what type of charge existed on the device prior to our receipt, so it's best (or in a worse case scenario) just to charge it for the 8 hours regardless of the status of the light. Does it make a difference if it's 8 hours or until the green light turns off? Probably not. But for the Android neophytes just getting their hands on a tablet for the 1st or 2nd time, I think that my explanation is still applicable and satisfactory to provide a perspective easy to understand and beneficial to the consumer. Thanks for the detailed clarification though.
Received my champagne gold today and doesn't seem to be any issues at all. No light bleed, WiFi and bluetooth are perfect, and no I/O issues (updated as soon as I turned on the device). Seeing as the champagne golds seem to have come latter in the production cycle, it seems they are improving their processes slowly but surely.
Hi,
I want to buy my first tablet and I am looking for something with 9-10 inches screen and sure android based. So far I decided that the Asus Transformer TF700 is the answer for me (the 32 GB version) I am wondering whether there are other potential good tablets with the same price tag or this is the best one can get in this price range.
Thanks.
Right now I would wait if I could reconsider. See if nexus coming with a bigger tablet.
This isn't a horrible tablet yet there are serious issues and Asus seems like neglected us
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legolas.w said:
Hi,
I want to buy my first tablet and I am looking for something with 9-10 inches screen and sure android based. So far I decided that the Asus Transformer TF700 is the answer for me (the 32 GB version) I am wondering whether there are other potential good tablets with the same price tag or this is the best one can get in this price range.
Thanks.
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I would buy it again. We've got some great ICS and Jelly Bean custom roms (some are a work in process, but almost there--good enough to be my daily driver) and the official JB update is coming soon. I guess ASUS quality assurance leaves something to be desired, but my tablet and dock are great and I'm very happy with the Infinity.
2 weeks in to owning it and i would buy it again. I have not noticed any physical problems with my device.
I kinda wish i would have tried a 7" so that it was easier to carry around at times. I still think that I would want to have this device in the end. I love the I/O connections(kinda slow) but very helpful when I am shooting video with a bunch of GoPros outdoors. Now i don't have a carry a full sized laptop just to manage the files.
Sadly, I returned my third TF700 back to Amazon yesterday. Between the loosely mounted screen, the poor wifi reception (despite being a few feet from the router) and the multiple-times-per-day reboots due to icon disappearances and crashes, I couldn't justify keeping it.
With that said, I have every intention of buying it again once JB is officially released for it. The tablet display is gorgeous and I love the overall weight and form factor. I could have lived with the slight display mounting issue but I couldn't get around how laggy and crash-prone it was.
I have JB on my Galaxy Nexus and the performance is stellar and given what I've read from TF700 owners who have added a custom JB ROM to their tablets, I am confident that once an official ASUS build is released, most/all of the software problems will be resolved. Right?
Ehhh...
I'd buy again.
Probably try to get a champagne one and 64gb...of course the money would be more.
I really want to get another Acer A700 because the price tag on that tab is steadily dropping.
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Sadly, I returned my third TF700 back to Amazon yesterday. Between the loosely mounted screen, the poor wifi reception (despite being a few feet from the router) and the multiple-times-per-day reboots due to icon disappearances and crashes, I couldn't justify keeping it.
With that said, I have every intention of buying it again once JB is officially released for it. The tablet display is gorgeous and I love the overall weight and form factor. I could have lived with the slight display mounting issue but I couldn't get around how laggy and crash-prone it was.
I have JB on my Galaxy Nexus and the performance is stellar and given what I've read from TF700 owners who have added a custom JB ROM to their tablets, I am confident that once an official ASUS build is released, most/all of the software problems will be resolved. Right?
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It's looking good. We're just at the beginning of that road, but there's a lot that can be done. Better luck next time!
As it stands right now, I suggest you should hold on to your money, Asus tf700 is a big disappointment for me. I was so excited about this table, and now NO ONE in my family wants to use it. The only thing good about this table is the high resolution screen, but maybe this's the issue, the O/S is not optimized for this kind of resolution? who knows? Anyway If you really like this table, wait until they released Jelly Been and check back to this forum to see it indeed Jelly Bean will addressed all the issues. Don't listen to the people that claimed they love their tables, maybe a few out there claimed that have a perfect one? but the odds will go against you. Not worth 600$ the way it works right now.
I'd buy again -- love the connectivity, love the screen -- lots of storage space. Furthermore, I have few issues with mine, and the keyboard dock is the absolute hammer for me -- typing and an extra battery. Seals the deal!
I love it, and would still buy it
I would still buy it also.
There are only four things that annoy me so far:
- It takes a few seconds for the keyboard to initialize, so you have to wait a few seconds with enter the code
- Tegra 3 seems to have a little strugle with handling 1920x1200, especially compared with CM10 (JB) on my Galaxy S2
- Android interface, especially in 3rd party apps is not yet tailored to use with a keyboard
- USB and SD going in to sleep together with the system, so I cannot charge my phone via micro-USB and it has to re-initialize SD every time (I like to have a setting for this)
Judging on what an improvement going from ICS to JB (CM9 --> CM10) made for my SGS2 I expect most of these issues to be resolved in the future with updated software, so I'm not woried.
What I absolutely love:
- The size as a small laptop and the detachable 'screen', and using the touchscreen (it draws attention when commuting in the train ), the aways-on just like a phone
- That it doesn't get hot - at all (unlike my Galaxy S2)
- Brightness of the screen, and it's resolution
- The good battery life when used in conjuction with the dock (which is how I use it 95% of the time)
I really don't like saying this because I have had very good results with Asus products I have purchased over the years. I would, buy a Samsung or a Toshiba. I am thinking about returning it again and just doing this and having it over with once and for all. I know they aren't as nice as the Asus but I sit here everyday and watch my wife do everything SHE wants to do on her Toshiba AT105-T1032 while she simultaneously laughs at me plodding along on my quad core super tablet. Opps, gotta go now she wants to see who's will boot up first from power off. I loose everytime, man I'm getting tired of doing the dishes every night
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There are only four things that annoy me so far:
- It takes a few seconds for the keyboard to initialize, so you have to wait a few seconds with enter the code
- Tegra 3 seems to have a little strugle with handling 1920x1200, especially compared with CM10 (JB) on my Galaxy S2
- Android interface, especially in 3rd party apps is not yet tailored to use with a keyboard
- USB and SD going in to sleep together with the system, so I cannot charge my phone via micro-USB and it has to re-initialize SD every time (I like to have a setting for this)
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FYI - there is a "solution" to problems 1 & 4: If you want to be able to use the keyboard instantly after turning in on and keep your USB port on the dock active when the TF700 is in standby, you can do that by disabling the "Mobile Dock Battery Saving" mode in Settings->Asus customized settings. Just make sure you back out of the settings screen in order to make the setting "take effect". This will also allow you to wake your TF700 with the keyboard dock (instead of using the power button).
The downside is that your TF700 will never enter "deep sleep", so your battery will drain faster in standby mode...
I just tested this and was able to charge my Nexus 7 from from TF700, even in standby mode.
So, there already is a setting for this....
Regarding the keyboard, I've yet to have any issues with the keyboard in third party apps - could you please elaborate?
Hope this helps.
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I love my infinity, the keyboard dock is just what i wanted
The IO issues of tegra3, poor Asus customer support, Bad warrenty coverage (everything is CID), and high fail rate make me sad tho...
Would i buy another one? Not likely. I'd prolly stick with the galaxy tab 2, Samsung may not update as quickly howeverits very easy to flash custom kernels and roms and loooots of options there.
If only we could get the Asus tablet with Samsung level QA and workmanship. Lots of people bash how "plastic" Sammy devices feel but i have yet to have one fall apart on me
Yeah, I think that Asus was more concerned with form over function with the TF700 - they were so worried about being the thinnest and lightest tablet (along with being nice looking) that they were just too hard to actually build!
We'll see how things go in the future, especially with Jelly Bean, but I just get the feeling that the TF700 isn't going to stand the test of time. Hopefully, I'm wrong.
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Had my TF700 64gb 5 weeks and yes would buy again, very good screen as I use outdoors mostly in very bright light 7inch would just not be big enough for me. Had the occassional reboot but so much better with a cold reboot once a week thanks to the advice on this forum.
No loose screen or noticable light bleed, wifi connection in comparison with my Samsung Gio is just as good if not a little better.
I did not buy the model with the keyboard dock as it was not available at the time of purchase and still a little nervouse about getting one due to the screen crack issue but have invested in the Anker Archos3 battery which is great if you are out for a full day and need that extra bit of battery power.
This is my first tablet but have used an android phone before, did not want to go down the Apple route seems to be more of a fashionable item to buy going back to the ipod days and that sort of thing always puts me off.
There are always going to be problems with an early adoption of any device so far I am a happy user.
jtrosky said:
FYI - there is a "solution" to problems 1 & 4: If you want to be able to use the keyboard instantly after turning in on and keep your USB port on the dock active when the TF700 is in standby, you can do that by disabling the "Mobile Dock Battery Saving" mode in Settings->Asus customized settings. Just make sure you back out of the settings screen in order to make the setting "take effect". This will also allow you to wake your TF700 with the keyboard dock (instead of using the power button).
The downside is that your TF700 will never enter "deep sleep", so your battery will drain faster in standby mode...
I just tested this and was able to charge my Nexus 7 from from TF700, even in standby mode.
So, there already is a setting for this....
Regarding the keyboard, I've yet to have any issues with the keyboard in third party apps - could you please elaborate?
Hope this helps.
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Actually that was one of the first things I did Because I use my tranformer as a PC replacement. I didn't want to push the unlock button every time. The SD-card still powers off in this mode when the screen is of and there is the delay when typing in in a password or code from the keyboard.
I've btw done a lot of optimizing by now on the stock rom -for which you need root access - Disabled a great bunch of programs, see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1897099. Also I now disabled some more programs, replaced the stock launcher with a lightweight alternative (Holo launcher HD), and replaced all media related programs (Gallery, Google Play Music, Videoplayer) with lightweight alternatives (Quickgallery, Clean player, BSplayer which serves as a youtube substitute as well). This allows you to disable the media storage process alltogether. This appears to take a great load of the Infinity's shoulders and it now is starting the feel and behave like a state-of-the-art PC system in terms of speed and input response BTW Office Suite let's you use the cursor keys and shift keys in it's spreadsheet editor and is not laggy unlike it's competitors when using this input method (Quickoffice, for which I still had a licence and Polaris which is preinstalled). Also Dolphin Browser beta is not laggy when typing from the keyboard like Firefox Beta, next to that it allows you to use the scroll wheel on a external mouse and seems to perform better on a optimized system than FF beta (which was my prefered solution when I still had my system less optimized).
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Actually that was one of the first things I did Because I use my tranformer as a PC replacement. I didn't want to push the unlock button every time. The SD-card still powers off in this mode when the screen is of and there is the delay when typing in in a password or code from the keyboard.
I've btw done a lot of optimizing by now on the stock rom -for which you need root access - Disabled a great bunch of programs, see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1897099. Also I now disabled some more programs, replaced the stock launcher with a lightweight alternative (Holo launcher HD), and replaced all media related programs (Gallery, Google Play Music, Videoplayer) with lightweight alternatives (Quickgallery, Clean player, BSplayer which serves as a youtube substitute as well). This allows you to disable the media storage process alltogether. This appears to take a great load of the Infinity's shoulders and it now is starting the feel and behave like a state-of-the-art PC system in terms of speed and input response BTW Office Suite let's you use the cursor keys and shift keys in it's spreadsheet editor and is not laggy unlike it's competitors when using this input method (Quickoffice, for which I still had a licence and Polaris which is preinstalled). Also Dolphin Browser beta is not laggy when typing from the keyboard like Firefox Beta, next to that it allows you to use the scroll wheel on a external mouse and seems to perform better on a optimized system than FF beta (which was my prefered solution when I still had my system less optimized).
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Hmm, I'm a little confused now - the OP stated that your USB port won't charge your phone, yet you say that you have already disabled the "Mobile Dock Power Save Mode"? Or are you saying that you disabled that *after* posting the original post? Like I said, even in standby, I can still charge USB devices with that mode disabled...
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Hmm, I'm a little confused now - the OP stated that your USB port won't charge your phone, yet you say that you have already disabled the "Mobile Dock Power Save Mode"? Or are you saying that you disabled that *after* posting the original post? Like I said, even in standby, I can still charge USB devices with that mode disabled...
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In my situation:
- Screen on: It charges my phone over microusb
- Screen of: nope
Also a sd-card in the docking station is remounted every time the screen goes on.
Mobile battery switching mode is de-selected.
When it's enabled the keyboard can also not wake the tablet, have to use the power button on the tablet itself then.
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In my situation:
- Screen on: It charges my phone over microusb
- Screen of: nope
Also a sd-card in the docking station is remounted every time the screen goes on.
Mobile battery switching mode is de-selected.
When it's enabled the keyboard can also not wake the tablet, have to use the power button on the tablet itself then.
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Strange - that's how mine acted before disabling the mobile dock battery saving mode, but after disabling it,my tablet will continue to change my devices even when screen is off and I can wake my table my simply touching the trackpad (even if it's disabled). You may want to try enabling and re-disabling the battery saving mode, making sure to exit setting after each change....
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There really should be a pinned thread for utter disappointed features and/or people.
I am not returning my new SW2. Its too cool to have the lamest, inept and funtion-killing GUI cause me to give up. ** But I bought a Pebble watch the same day because (the SW2n currently):
- can not function as a watch. It does but it goes to sleep VERY fast. WAY too fast. This is completely unacceptable. If I want to drain my f*ing watch and be able to read it all day, I should be able to!!! Put a warning on the settings area.. like: WILL DRAIN BATTERY VERY FAST or something...
- Can not finish reading my incoming sms. Maybe you dont know the girl I am dating but she WRITES A LOT... and this may not be normal amounts ... I really mean a lot. And SONY clearly has NO IDEA about this.
- AND continuing from the above point, it goes back to the f*ing CLOCK in sleep mode. SHOULD dim and remain on my screen until I SAY OTHERWISE. NOW I have to press the power button and NOT make it power off buy accident (another STUPID DESIGN) and make it activate, press the home button and then the stupid function messaging button. NO LOGIC FLOW HERE. I have to read 5 or 6 TXTs by now.
- CAN NOT read the messages in order without going BACK and opening the messaging app again. At least that seems to be what I had to do. I might have missed proper procedure here but if that is true, shame on SONY for lacking a more intuitive operation.
The Poweramp app is cool when it works. It should STAY active. I DONT CARE about anyone else or what slogan SONY wants to claim about battery life. I want FUNCTION my f*ing way. I use Poweramp all the time. But it is not able to stay on my watch, active? Total shame.
The ONLY app I kept on my watch is the custom watch faces. It allwos me to keep the display on until the dumbwatch, overthinking watch disconnects from my RazrMaxx/4.4 Dhacker29 ROM.
So in conclusion, This watch completely fails at being a watch. Fails at running apps because it times out WAY TOO FAST. Fails at every possible area other than fitting well.
Maybe your accelerometer is faulty. It should not timeout when on hand, actually it dims and always shows time.
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Maybe your accelerometer is faulty. It should not timeout when on hand, actually it dims and always shows time.
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I hate to be the guy to say it, but is the OP trolling us?
I have the smartwatch 2, just got it yesterday, and what the OP is saying makes no sense.
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I hate to be the guy to say it, but is the OP trolling us?
I have the smartwatch 2, just got it yesterday, and what the OP is saying makes no sense.
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Well it can timeout and go totally blank ... try it, put them on the table and do not move the watch/table and it will dim and then go completely blank after a while, because the accelerometer sees it's not on the hand. So if OP's accelerometer is faulty, it might behave this way ...
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Well it can timeout and go totally blank ... try it, put them on the table and do not move the watch/table and it will dim and then go completely blank after a while, because the accelerometer sees it's not on the hand. So if OP's accelerometer is faulty, it might behave this way ...
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I am not a troll. At least I am not trying to be a troll. I do feel slightly underwhelmed buy my experience so far.
And maybe my accelerometer needs checking? If it is supposed to remain on (the screen) for more than 5 seconds when I am wearing it and trying to read something, then yes, something is wrong. Maybe the watch doesnt know when it is on a troll arm?
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I hate to be the guy to say it, but is the OP trolling us?
I have the smartwatch 2, just got it yesterday, and what the OP is saying makes no sense.
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Hello,
What he is saying actually makes perfect sense, especially on this forum - we are not the average, marketing-targeted user and we like to use our devices any way we please, without being limited by design hickups. And we are more sensitive to design flaws and marketing bs than the average consumer.
Sony missed and even lied about basic features and is not allowing, at least so far, anyone to tweak with this product's FW.
In my experience the watch proved very useful ONLY IF YOU ARE NOT RELYING SOLELY ON IT for most of your work - i, for one, would not like to read my correspondence on such a tiny screen and prefer to use the phone instead - but it would sure be nice to know that I CAN use the watch if i wanted to.
Fortunately, while driving a motorcycle, for example, getting a hint of the message content usually suffices for me to determine if i need to pullover and get my phone out, provided i get to see the screen before it times-out, which is another awkwardly missing basic function.
I will, however, hold on to the SW2 for now in hopes that Sony will straighten things the way they should.
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i agree fully with the OP as well
if i didn't know better, i would suggest posting your opinions on talk sonymobile, but as i already did that and got NO reply from Sony, i guess it would be just a waiste of time
that's my biggest problem with Sony right now: no communication
(although i must admit most manufacturers suck at communicating with their customers, try finding out when the Butterfly s is getting 4.3/4.4, not a chance)
I actually agree with the OP, there are some features that could be included in the settings menu like timeout duration or stopping the watch default to the watch screen every time it goes into standbye especially useful if travelling and using features like poweramp - you need 3x button presses to bring the poweramp screen back on and if you have a messaging app open (reading messages) it should prevent the watch from sleeping
and how fecking hard is it to develop a few watch face designs with different colours etc
TBH I think Sony are in the process of designing a totally new Smartwatch for release in early 2014 and have completely dropped the ball with this one
well, there was an update today, so i guess they didn't drop it completely
update looked good at first, but disappointing anyway
-only 1 extra watch face that's usable, i still want the abilty to design/choose my own watch face
-the option to use the light sensor for brightness is nice, but i'm glad it's optional, don't like it
-music app update totally messed it up (used to work for me)
-camera app update didn't do anything for me, still does nothing
-still no selectable timeout, huge issue for me
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Find It for SmartWatch by AQ i purchased also doesn't work anymore
argh, their own Find Phone Smart Extension ALSO doesn't work anymore!
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their own Find Phone Smart Extension ALSO doesn't work anymore!
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AFAIK I suspect that problems might occur pairing the SW2 with a non-Sony smartphone.
But please let's keep the discussion in one place only, so we can better compare these findings:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2554874
i think i know why the watch can't dim while still displaying an app
those apps don't really run on the watch, they're just displaying what's happening on the phone (that's where the app is installed)
so for a watch-app to work, the watch is constantly communicating with the phone
such a connection will probably drain the watch very quickly
only the watch part can run independently, so that's why it always goes back to that screen, to save power
this is of course just what i think
FWIW, the screen on time can be controlled by the app. I use and app called IPBike for cycling which runs on the phone. This app allows you to use the watch as a head unit on the bars. It has an option to keep the watch screen on for the entire ride.
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Well it can timeout and go totally blank ... try it, put them on the table and do not move the watch/table and it will dim and then go completely blank after a while, because the accelerometer sees it's not on the hand. So if OP's accelerometer is faulty, it might behave this way ...
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Should it really go totally blank/black? Mine is only dimmed out and showing clock face all the time, but really dimmy. And it is on the table...
Oh it does, took some time, longer than i expected...
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