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Is your TF700 a keeper?

I've seen a few hit or miss issues that have been coming to light since the release of the TF700 infinity. On some devices, it seems to work and on others, not as well or not at all. From this, it seemed quite necessary to have a thread to identify the issues that others may encounter and for what they should check to know if they have a "good device" or whether it should be returned. Please let me know if their are any items that should be related to this list. If you wish to discuss your tablet's attributes (both good and bad) further, Pretoriano80 has made such a thread: [Infinity issues/defects/good features] Share your issues, defects or best features
Make sure you charge your tablet before using! Explanation in point 3.
Also, do not update past 9.4.5.26 during these tests if you want to use NVFlash!
1- Does your device have good build quality?
Some people have found that there are scratches on the device, frame's bent, the display is poorly set, the ports may be improperly mounted or other such things. It is recommended that if you encounter any of these that you return the device to get another one since you paid a lot of money for a "good" device. The tablet might click at corners, some of the backlight might bleed through around the edges of the display, or maybe show a slight but often not serious protrusion of the screen from the device. It's up to you to judge whether the extremity of this occurrence on your device are serious enough to warrant a return depending on your definition of "quality".
A possible test for "light bleed" is to take a picture from the camera in either a dark room or the camera lens covered (objective is to take a "black" photo). Open the image in the gallery app and turn up the brightness on the device. In this fashion you should be able to notice any "severe" cases of light bleed like this. If the light bleed is little and only noticeable during startup, then it's probably nothing to worry about.
2- Does your device have haptic feedback? (Does it vibrate properly?)
When you turn on and off your device, it should vibrate. This vibration will be subtle like the feeling of a working electrical appliance and not like a console joystick. If it doesn't, then it probably is defective. There are various methods to getting some type of jiggle out of the tablet if you want a more extensive test. One example is to add such feedback to your on-screen keyboard via Settings -> Language & Input. I'll just go over the basic "Android Keyboard". Select the sliders button next to the keyboard, look for "vibrate on keypress", put a little check next to that, then go into "advanced settings". By default, these vibrations are set to 1ms which is a duration too short to provide any feedback. Adjust the "Keypress vibration duration settings" to something like 100ms in order to ensure that the buzz happens. Finally, verify that your default keyboard is set to the "Android Keyboard" and then open up something like SuperNote where you can type. You should have some buzzing upon every keypress. When done with this test, just go back into the keyboard settings and disable the "vibrate on keypress".
3- Is your battery life ~9 hours in power-saving mode or ~6 hours in balanced mode?
Some people have noticed that they either never reach this amount or never come close to it. This is kind of an expected behavior since on the first page of the instructions manual (you did read the manual, right?) it mentions this:
"Fully charge the battery up to eight hours for the first-time use. The battery reaches its maximum capacity after one full charging and discharging cycle." Therefore, one is supposed to charge the battery for up to an 8 hour period prior to use and then discharge the battery (until ~10% or so). You may encounter a variant of this concerning "a few cycles" but still, right after tearing the plastic off the box like a rapid child at Christmas, ensure that you just plug it in and forget about it for 8 hours (or until the charging light turns off). Otherwise, it can have a lasting negative impact on battery life.
More information about Li-ion can be found here.
4- Does the GPS work?
The TF700 shares a few things with the TF201 Prime (which had notoriously bad wireless, including Wifi communication, Bluetooth, and GPS). Some owners of the Prime didn't remember to check GPS even when everything else worked and later needed to get a Dongle. Ergo, why I put it here high on the list. I believe many of the issues dealing with hardware and software have been addressed by ASUS so if your GPS doesn't work, try updating (not past 9.4.5.26!) the device or send it back since it might be hardware related. Make sure that when testing, you have the "find location via wifi" option turned off if using Maps. Otherwise, test with a tool from Google Play Store like GPS Status or GPS Test. Note: testing may involve going outside and dancing with the device as the first connection is often the most difficult to get.
When GPS is working, you should see a little circle with a blinking dot inside in the lower right-hand corner. Sometimes, the dot might not blink and can seem to influence how well GPS programs work. Its a strange thing but with a simple solution (from myself encountering it on both the TF300 and the TF700): just open the notifications bar and close it again. The dot should be blinking. If not, try actually turning off and then turning back on the GPS via the notifications bar.
5- Does mini-HDMI work?
Though not necessarily a tendency of faults in the infinity, it is important to check all the offered functionality of the device prior to making it a permanent fixture in your life. Remember that if you don't have a friend with a mini-HDMI cable, Walmart (and many other stores) will accept returns provided they are within a particular time period. Feel free to use this return policy to test your device.
6- Can you watch video/youtube/netflix/etc while using a bluetooth headset?
Some people have noticed that there is a huge decrease in speed when watching a video while using a bluetooth headset for audio. The cause of this is unknown and the only explanation we know of is "because wifi and bluetooth share the same antenna". This seems plausible except that many other devices also use the same antenna for both functionalities yet do not display this behavior. Due to the underlying fact we do not know whether it is software or hardware related, it is advisable to return the product.
7- Does the headphone jack work?
Just for thoroughness and ease-of-testing, plug in a set of ear buds and make sure you hear sound. Some have complained that the quality is mediocre due to a humming noise but that the noise is negligible. If the noise is too pronounced, there still is the mounted speaker and if point 6's test was successful, bluetooth is still an option.
8- Does your device feel quick to respond? If not, are you on firmware version .26?
It has been widely noted that version .26 of the firmware made the tablet very snappy. This also helped the device to recognize more microSD cards but also caused problems with NTFS-formatted drives. If you aren't getting the response you want, try upgrading to .26 (not beyond that). Additionally, if your microSD card is NTFS, you may want to reformat it (backup whatever you want to keep first) to FAT32 or exFAT until the issues with NTFS are ironed out. This point also concerns point 9 further down.
9- Can you receive OTA updates? (This should be fixed since Aug 7)
Provided that you are on version .21 or .22, you should be able to receive updates from ASUS for your device via the "About Tablet" option in settings. If you cannot, this might be indicative of another issue which has yet to be identified. You can apply updates without OTA via these methods:
(easiest way)[HOW TO]Tired to wait the .26 with WW TF700 device?
(another way)*** Firmware News & Alternative Install Methods*** Ver. 9.4.5.26 27/07
(requires root)[HOWTO] Manually updating firmware using "dlpkgfile" download via Asus FOTA server
(requires unlocked bootloader)[HowTo] Restore Stock Recovery and Install .26 OTA Manually with Unlocked Bootloader
(requires unlocked bootloader and TWRP custom recovery)[CWM] Repackaged OTA update 9.4.5.26 US/WW versions
Make sure you do not update past 9.4.5.26 if you want to use NVFlash!
10- (Only if this is important to you and then only if you are willing to forego any ASUS warranty) Can you unlock the bootloader? (This should be fixed since Aug 7)
Bonus Warning: ASUS has noted that using their bootloader unlocker will void your warranty and all OTA updates for your device will cease. However, without this unlocking, you will not be able to run custom ROMs nor will you be able to use NVFlash to make your device brick-proof.
[Device is unlocked][Video Added] Bootloader Unlock Tool Released [25.7.2012]
If you are still within your store's "grace period", you may want to try this out to verify if your device will ever be able to run non-ASUS android systems. There's no way of knowing at this moment if the bootloader unlocker will work on your device without actually trying to unlock it. If it does not work, it might be due to their service being unavailable, your serial number might not yet be in their database of devices for the unlock to succeed, your device serial number internally might not match your external serial number (on the sticker), or the problem might be something else entirely. Many of those whose bootloader would not unlock did not receive OTAs either so this shares the "issue which has yet to be identified" from point 9.
If you can give your tab a :good: to all of these points, then you have a good device! Congratulations! :highfive:
Maybe check out these threads next:
[INDEX]-[Updated -25 July 2012]-ASUS INFINITY TF700 - INDEX THREAD-DEVELOPMENT-PART#1
[RESOURCES] How to Root, Unlock, ROMs, Recovery, Tips & more [VIDEO TUTORIALS]

1.Yes
2.Yes
3.Yes
4.didn't try that yet
5.yes
6.yes
7.I don't care
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Yep, mines a keeper.
Build quality is acceptable .. (I own an ipad also) ...I'm going to say 80% the build quality of the ipad. It does OTA and manual updates just fine. Headphone jack works. Has slight click if you press the screen by the speaker ...but only noticable because I read here that it clicks if you press by the speaker . Speed, temps, light bleed, battery life ....all as expected ...not perfect but perfectly acceptable. I am enjoying the tablet, and have no major complaints. I can only assume it will get better with JB when it comes out.
The ipad is more polished, faster, easier to use ....but not by a huge margin. And I make allowance for the immaturity of android tablets and the OS compared to ipad and iOS. I think the trade off is worth it for the additional control... and eventual rooting of the device.
Price ....hmmmm... perhaps a bit high compared to the ipad.... about $75 less would have been nice ....but it's basically a toy for me so I can't complain too much. And part of the whole thing is I wanted a tablet....and I wanted to support the Android market so it would stand a better chance at competing with the ipad... because honestly I think Andriod is the future of tablets ...not iOS.
I'd say the single disappointment is ....I bought the tablet to watch motorcycle racing videos from MotoGP.com, which I pay about $120 US a year to be a member ..... guess what...the tablet will not play the archived videos from this site ....it will stream live video fine, it will play all other "current" content fine...but will not play the archived videos ...... my iPad plays them just fine. I'm in contact with MotoGP.com trying to solve the problem ...but it's not a new problem ....its across the Asus tablet line.
Still.... I enjoy the TF700T, and think it's a good product ....although perhaps should be offered at a bit more of a discount compared to the iPad ....for now.
I have no regrets.
JohnnyB

ray3andrei said:
1.Yes
2.Yes
3.Yes
4.didn't try that yet
5.yes
6.yes
7.I don't care
Sent from my GNexus
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Just want to mention these numbers are apt to change due to new things becoming evident as community use increases.
dataway said:
I'd say the single disappointment is ....I bought the tablet to watch motorcycle racing videos from MotoGP.com, which I pay about $120 US a year to be a member ..... guess what...the tablet will not play the archived videos from this site ....it will stream live video fine, it will play all other "current" content fine...but will not play the archived videos ...... my iPad plays them just fine. I'm in contact with MotoGP.com trying to solve the problem ...but it's not a new problem ....its across the Asus tablet line.
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This thread is really just supposed to be a developing checklist for people to verify their tablets since it seems that not all problems are experienced by all users and some problems are more extreme than others. That being noted, how did you try to access said videos? Is there a specific program or application you are required to use? Did you try other such programs from the Play store? Since you are paying for your access, I doubt it would be something that a non-member would be able to assist much.

Yes it is a keeper
Plays HD content flawlessly
The GPS is sooper dup on the road
The WIFI sensitivity is exceptional
Can be viewed outside easily
I really like the hotspot tethering performance also
Pretty much a sweet package
I use it a lot around the house to help me with DIY project info...

1- Does your device have good build quality?
10/10, clicks a a little but IDGTF.
2- Does the GPS work?
Yes.jfif
3- Does mini-HDMI work?
Never tested, never will.
4- Can you watch video/youtube/netflix/etc while using a bluetooth headset?
>2012
>bluetooth headphones
ISHYGDDT
5- Does the headphone jack work?
Yes, makes beeping rarely when I start videos.
6- Does your device feel quick to respond? If not, are you on firmware version .26?
Yes, like butter. I still want jelly Bean though.
7- Is your battery life ~9 hours in power-saving mode or ~6 hours in balanced mode?
6 hours in balanced, yes. Never go to power saving because lag.
8- Can you receive OTA updates?
No, bootloader unlocked.
9- (Only if this is important to you and then only if you are willing to forego any ASUS warranty) Can you unlock the bootloader?
Already did

The only issue I've really had with my device after upgrading to .26 is occasional lock-ups. One lock-up concerned me enough to feel a need to return the device. The screen filled with vertical (if holding landscape) white bars. Has anyone else experienced such issues?

I haven't tested the HDMI yet. And other then the inability to OTA or unlock everything is working perfectly on the latest build
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funtapaz said:
The only issue I've really had with my device after upgrading to .26 is occasional lock-ups. One lock-up concerned me enough to feel a need to return the device. The screen filled with vertical (if holding landscape) white bars. Has anyone else experienced such issues?
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My friend found one at Best Buy here in NJ. I told him to return it (not exchange) because of the amount of light bleed alone. He was not able to update it, and it just kept crashing on him which made it almost impossible to use. He's going to try hard reset it again to see if any of that helps.

1- Does your device have good build quality?
Mine is perfect.
2- Does the GPS work?
GPS so far works great without using the AGPS to assist.
3- Does mini-HDMI work?
Have a cable from my Prime, both worked flawlessly as does my Bionic.
4- Can you watch video/youtube/netflix/etc while using a bluetooth headset?
Funny thing it does drop from about 20 Mbps to about 3Mbps down, but that won't change no matter how far from the router. The upload is 4Mbps on both no matter how far from the router. It's not the dual antenna that's the problem, it's that they both use one controller chip for the two.
5- Does the headphone jack work?
No problems on mine.
6- Does your device feel quick to respond? If not, are you on firmware version .26?
Was definitely laggy on .21, on .26 MUCH better especially in performance mode. I'm excited for JB.
7- Is your battery life ~9 hours in power-saving mode or ~6 hours in balanced mode?
I charged about 4 hrs till green/fully charged. Funny thing is you can't overcharge these new batteries now and days. They are set to auto stop charging once full (that's the benefit of them now) So I have never "overcharged" because it's not possible. That being said I did a full charge, and am working on the first full depletion to recharge. I'm at 62% and that's 3 days later lol. I have been using it light/moderate the past few days. At least 3.5 hrs of Netflix streaming, setting it up, and not turning it off overnight. We'll see but so far so good and Ifinitely (like that ) better than my Prime.
8- Can you receive OTA updates?
Not OTA, manual worked just fine

Good list, thanks. Mine has passed all of these so far but the headphone test. I forgot that one. I guess I'll give it a shot tonight.

" "Fully charge the battery up to eight hours for the first-time use. The battery reaches its maximum capacity after one full charging and discharging cycle.""
It says" upto 8 hours" It doesn't mean you NEED the full 8 hours. Once you go green and are 100% fully charged, the charger shuts down on its own so not to overheat the battery. The "upto 8 hours" is for folks charging their device via USB on their PC - - which can take up to 8 hours to getting that full charge.

I just got mine yesterday, and while I haven't had time to test either HDMI or full battery cycle (though it's doing pretty well so far) all else is wonderful. Great screen, OTA update to build 26, great wifi and gps, headphones work fine. Sound out of headphones and BT headset is actually great. I do have a millisecond lag with BT audio and watching streaming video, but I could actually live with it, it's not that bad.
This one is definitely a keeper.

I have a quick question while I'm checking my tablet, which arrived yesterday... my screen is uniform across the edge, no creaking or inconsistencies, but the entire surface is raised, or at least isn't flush like my previous Prime. Is that normal? Anyone have a completely flushed screen on their 700? Thanks.
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androidxen said:
I have a quick question while I'm checking my tablet, which arrived yesterday... my screen is uniform across the edge, no creaking or inconsistencies, but the entire surface is raised, or at least isn't flush like my previous Prime. Is that normal? Anyone have a completely flushed screen on their 700? Thanks.
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My Gorilla glass has about a quarter inch beveled edge going all the way around

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My Gorilla glass has about a quarter inch beveled edge going all the way around
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So I guess the screen is higher due to the hardware improvements from the Prime. Good to know, just wanted to be cautious.
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My Gorilla glass has about a quarter inch beveled edge going all the way around
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Same here - more like 1/16th inch, maybe?

Mine looks perfect, but if I press a bit harder on the screen (you won't do this with normal usage) I get a hissing noice which sound like air is escaping from between the screen. At that moment I can see deformations on the screen. I have read other people do have the same issue, but wondering if this is normal (so all TF700 have it?) or if I should exchange. Any advice?
I have one really big scratch on the dockingstation. Going back to the store tomorrow to get another one.

Added xRevilatioNx's and neo1738's clarification regarding initial battery charge and the green charging light turning off.
Yeah, I agree with you that the new batteries can't be overcharged in the literal sense. It was merely to emphasize the fact that a "full charge" is necessary to receive optimum life out of the device's battery. We don't really know what type of charge existed on the device prior to our receipt, so it's best (or in a worse case scenario) just to charge it for the 8 hours regardless of the status of the light. Does it make a difference if it's 8 hours or until the green light turns off? Probably not. But for the Android neophytes just getting their hands on a tablet for the 1st or 2nd time, I think that my explanation is still applicable and satisfactory to provide a perspective easy to understand and beneficial to the consumer. Thanks for the detailed clarification though.

Received my champagne gold today and doesn't seem to be any issues at all. No light bleed, WiFi and bluetooth are perfect, and no I/O issues (updated as soon as I turned on the device). Seeing as the champagne golds seem to have come latter in the production cycle, it seems they are improving their processes slowly but surely.

I have a perfect Infinity TF700--I love it!

It was suggested that those with great Infinity TF700s who are happy with them post about how great their tablet is. I've been saying that mine (32GB Amethyst Grey with the TF700 AG Keyboard Dock) is a fantastic device and I wouldn't trade it for anything currently on the market.
My tab is flawless, hardware-wise: no loose screen, lifted edges, light bleed, dead pixels, scratches, etc. It is rooted, unlocked and has TWRP custom recovery and ZEUS v4 ICS stock-based custom rom, which makes it so fluid and deliciously fast. I'm using Browser2Ram, which seems to have improved browsing (which wasn't bad anyway). I really am not experiencing I/O issues (RL Benchmark shows 19 overall, but random writes is still slow) and antutu scores consistently over 14,000. Navigating the Netflix app sucks, but playback is a delight. The Infinity screen is so nice, it's hard to watch a video on anything else. I do have some issues with apps that are not yet optimised for the screen resolution, but that will come in time. The keyboard dock is just an integral part of my TF700. I can't do without it. I go all day with lots of screen-on time, browsing (much time on xda!) and I've never yet gone to bed without some charge remaining. Standby battery life is astonishing.
I installed Google Now and I keep forgetting that the Infinity is still on ICS. It is performing like a champ and is as good as my three other Jellybean devices. Oh, and I usually operate in powersave or balanced mode! The custom rom and various system tweaks are responsible for this improved performance. In my experience, custom roms/kernels will always trump stock. I understand why people are hesitant to unlock and lose their ASUS warranty, but I bought a 2 year Square Trade warranty with coverage for accidental damage, so I feel pretty good about my unlocked state. It's well worth it.
Well that's my happy story. My advice is: don't put up with bad hardware. Exchange it if there are any major issues or minor issues that will bug you. keep exchanging til you are satisfied. Software-wise, there are many improvements coming your way. Be a bit patient for JB and later updates, or be adventurous and root/unlock and flash the great rom we have now...there will be more to come.

Me too lol.
le rustle face

initially, i started having trouble with slowness and force closes. but after a hard reset, everything seems fine now. I recently had an issue with Maps, but the problem has gone away.

I have some minor light bleeds that I can live with, maybe 1-2 game crash in about a month of ownership, tablet is still not accepting my class 10 microsd 64gb (luckily the dock is fine with it), havent tried the blue tooth and streaming yet. I overall satisfied with it and waiting to see if JB can make it even better.

Me too. I love mine. :lol: No issues what so ever.

I agree 100%
It`s built with perfection, no problem with the screen, dock etc. I have no lag or slugginess. It plays anything i throw at it. I run it just as it was out of the box. I have no problem with battery. Keep it with me all day, wifi allways active, surfing, writing, reading a lot. Heavy email user. Allways runs in "balanced" mode. Medium screen brightness. Only time i really notice any battery drain is when i stream and play my 1080p shows from my windows home server, i watch 4-5 hours at night and then i recharge, very normal for a tab. Browser sucks but thats a software issue.
When i read some of the negative comments and post over the last few days i first thought i was in the wrong forum, this cant be my TF700T they are talking about? But i really feel for thoose of you who have got problems with loose screens etc. Take that unit back to the store asap, thats not how the TF700T should be. And most of them are not.
I owned several tabs and tablet PC`s. I have very high standards and I dont stand for poor build quality, laggy software. Believe me when I say the TF700T is right now one of the absolute best Android tablets on the market. (In 2 months who know..)
I own the european (WW) version with 64mb and the only thing that explains the difference in build quality is there from different build batches in the assembly line.
For anyone that thinking about picking one up I say go for it!
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+1

+1 Here. I am having TF700 for the past one month ( Exchanged my TF201 in BestBuy) . I don't have any problems with it. Very very negligible light bleed ( i can live with it) , No lag at all. No problems with the battery . GPS works like a dream , Wifi is considerably strong and stable ( compared with TF201 ) .
Another happy user here.

Mine is also flawless. The screen's amazing, great for reading and HD video.

This is turning out to be just like the Primes "Positive Thread." With all the negitive post a few have been posting and reposting, it's nice to have a solid thread where people can express there joy satisfaction regarding owning the Infinity. I am also in the positive happy catagory very little to non exsistant LB! Everything is solid even streaming/using my BT headset for audio is great!
JB is starting to pop up as well Can't wait for some JB love!

No bugs here that weren't my non understanding of the OS or features of the tablet.
A few threads about problem devices had me pushing on the glass and thinking my wifi and GPS were under-performing.
Haven't seen any of that after 38 days of tinkering.
Hell I even left Mr Infinity all alone for two whole days!
When I flipped open the cover and pressed the button he woke up and said "swipe me!!!"
Very exciting l tell you.
Color me happy...

i want to love mine but i dont know if i just keep getting unlucky. google play force closes on me a lot ;[ . movies are fine and beautiful make sure u partition ur sd cards right. games run fine that you actually buy. other then that this tablet is sexy as f

Im also very happy with mine its perfect, no light bleeds no loose screen nothing. its also very stable.

I exchanged my Best Buy Prime last weekend for an Infinity and I have none of the issues others are talking about. This is what the Prime should have been all along. No bleed, wifi and GPS both good. Very pleased.

It's good to see a thread like this. It gets pretty discouraging reading those negative threads of problems.
I have had my Infinity since July and am loving it!
No issues with screen, USB SD card or any of the reported problems I have seen.
This 64 Gb tablet has a dock and I have stuffed the SD slots with 32Gb's each.
It just WORKS!
The only thing that hasn't been tried is the HDMI. I have no need for it yet but the way things are going, it should be good to go.
I am so glad I didn't go with an iPad!

Mine became perfect when I read in these forums to turn on the performance mode. Ever since purchasing this tablet i had it in balanced mode and didn't even consider moving it to performance mode. Once I did that the tablet became smoother, faster and were no longer having issues with the tablet. It is like having a new tablet.
I appreciate the info i have gotten in this forum. It has kept me from making a mistake in returning this tablet. I am totally satisfied with the TF700.
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My TF700T with its two TF201 dock keyboards works great. I have had zero issues from the start. I use my tablet with the dock most of the time as a unit. So much so that I purchased an additional TF201 dock keyboard. I keep the second dock attached to my AC power charger awaiting the need to swap out the dock thats currents attached to my tablet. After a heavy day of usage my tablet has some where around 40% remaining with the dock almost drained. At that time I just exchange docks and I am good to go. Both of my dock keyboards are a TF201 Prime version but both were updated from revision 206 to 207 as soon as they had the tablet inserted into them with a wifi network connected. I had a TF101 and a TF201 but this unit is fantastic from my standpoint. I can only imagine how it will perform once Jelly Bean is loaded onto it.

Only problem I have with my infinity is the browsing, but I expect that will be fixed directly. Other than that my device is good to go.

Loving mine as well, netflix works great and the only problem I've noticed is that sometimes I fail to press the h key. Great otherwise, tablet talk works great for it as well. Got a neoprene (roocase) case for it which works great
MovingZen said:
Only problem I have with my infinity is the browsing, but I expect that will be fixed directly. Other than that my device is good to go.
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Chrome as been wonderful for me, and it renders everything great - havent even noticed im in android tbh
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Have infinity for about a month.
No problems so far.

Asus Infinity Vs. Laptop

I first got interested in touch screen technology about 4 or 5 years ago when I started college. I faced with the option of getting a powerful laptop, which I was going to need being a computer major, or get a convertible laptop. I studied the problem for a long time and decided that the technology had not progressed far enough to warrant spending so much money on something that had so little real power under the hood. Fast forward a few years and not only has the technology progressed, but is pervasive to say the least. The Infinity is the first tablet I have owned. I know, I might of kinda tried to kill a mosquito with a cannon, but your sure to hit your mark.
I often find myself in conversation with other people trying to justify the money I spent on the tablet with the inevitable question, "Well, what does it do?" I must admit I find myself at a loss of words. I have so many things run though my mind that it can do, i'm just flabbergasted with all the possibilities. I concluded it would be easier to focus on the things that it can not do. The question I pose to you is this, "What can you do on a laptop that you can not do on an android tablet?" We can just go ahead and assume that we are talking about a rooted and unlocked device, because lets be honest, if you find yourself reading forums on a developers website you are probably not your average consumer of electronic devices. I would like to start a running list on this question as I find it is a question I hear a lot from people looking to buy a tablet. At this point, I would say that the caveats of owning a tablet are as follows:
>The obvious answer is less powerful hardware.
>Lots of software is not compatible with Android, but not necessarily a problem, bc there are a host of other android apps that preform almost on par to their desktop counter parts.
> there are limitations on the peripherals due to lack of drivers. (I bring this up, bc, well, I really want to shoot a nerf canon at my dog wirelessly with my tablet.)
>Android does not support writing to external dvd/cd drives, but they can read.
>I pretty sure you can not boot from USB, limiting your ability to run live versions of various os'. I do network security, so I really want Linux Backtrack, and no the virtualized version just does not seem to cut it for me yet, but they are getting closer.
>No room for hardware upgrade
>Weight, I bring this up as a negative, because where there footprint of my device has diminished, I find myself carrying an onslaught of accessories. Stop me if you heard this one:
-Stylus
-USB adapter
-Micro sd card sleeve
-mini USB Hub
-Bluetooth Keyboard, just had one on hand so did not buy dock.
-Headphones
-Charger
-sometimes the micro hdmi cable.
-Small speaker
-screen cloth ( as another member put it, 10" of OCD glory)
-Grid-it Case to orginize all of it
-oh, and a portable surge protector. Overkill you say. I direct you to previous statement about canon.
>No true multitasking, such as split-screen window with to programs, and yes i know you can do it it with some, but your choices are limited in that respect.
>I will need someone to chime in on the next one, but I think you can not use two bt devices at the same time. Someone verify that pls.
>I for some reason can not get this tablet to communicate with my french press no matter how many times it with my Infinity.
I am intentionally omitting the topic of games because that would require a whole different thread. Let's try to stick to utilities and tools. Feel free to point out any mistakes as the goal is to learn.
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>I will need someone to chime in on the next one, but I think you can not use two bt devices at the same time. Someone verify that pls.
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Actually, you can - for example, I can use my bluetooth mouse while at the same time play music through my Belkin Bluetooth Music receiver.
Also, if you have a keyboard dock, a lot of those accessories aren't needed (USB hub, BT keyboard, Card Reader, charger, etc).
But, most of your points are true. One thing that I've found tough to do on a tablet is use MS-Project files. I do have an app to read them, but it isn't the best (plus, it can't edit them)...
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Actually, you can - for example, I can use my bluetooth mouse while at the same time play music through my Belkin Bluetooth Music receiver.
Also, if you have a keyboard dock, a lot of those accessories aren't needed (USB hub, BT keyboard, Card Reader, charger, etc).
But, most of your points are true. One thing that I've found tough to do on a tablet is use MS-Project files. I do have an app to read them, but it isn't the best (plus, it can't edit them)...
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try quick office (hd, makes slideshows great)
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Midnitte said:
try quick office (hd, makes slideshows great)
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Quick Office doesn't support MS-Project files...
I think you are thinking of a different Microsoft product...
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Terminal IDE and linux in a chroot

On my laptop I can do serious processing of camera RAW files using Adobe Lightroom (or other processing engines). I have yet to find a true tablet-based equivalent capability.
Dave

No way in recent times can a tablet run like a laptop period.
This is a no brainer...
The latest notebooks are very powerful even in the simplest form.
When it comes to things like; Poser Pro, DAZ Studio, Adobe CS, MS office, Maya, Acrobat, Lightwave, Bryce or whatever you're going to need to lean on a PC or Mac.
Perhaps some day, but not today.
This is all moot

laptop beats it clean.
Heck I was trying to do a simple Google search from the address bar in the Chrome browser on my Infinity tablet. It stalled for a good minute.
In that minute I went over to my PC, launched Chrome, did the exact same action. Boom, it pulled up the results instantly.
I've been wondering how come Chrome works so solid on Windows and lackluster on Google's Android OS until I realized it's likely hardware.
The x86/x64 Intel based CPUs that make of the heart of Windows, Linux, and even MacOS have been in this game for more than a 2 decades and they've been constantly optimizing the CPU for the internet for half of it.
nVidia hasn't, they've making video cards for the majority. I'm starting to think now that had I thought with my old hardware geek mind, I would have never gone with a Android tablet, I should have bought a Windows tablet PC.

Sure, a laptop may be more powerful, but let's see your laptop get over 12 hours of battery life!
For *most* daily tasks, even MS-Office viewing and editing, a tablet can do just fine (at least with a keyboard dock). That's one reason why I bought the Transformer and really won't even consider a tablet without a true keyboard dock option anymore - without the keyboard dock, the device is just too limited for anything other than media consumption.
Add a nice keyboard dock and the tablet can instantly do *so* much more, while still being a great tablet when needed. I just wish there were more options when it came to a tablet with a keyboard dock! It kinda sucks being forced to go with Asus for this type of hybrid device.... But, I think that is slowly changing - it seems more devices with true keyboard docks are on the way. Asus better step up their game in the quality department, that's for sure!
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the_game_master said:
laptop beats it clean.
Heck I was trying to do a simple Google search from the address bar in the Chrome browser on my Infinity tablet. It stalled for a good minute.
In that minute I went over to my PC, launched Chrome, did the exact same action. Boom, it pulled up the results instantly.
I've been wondering how come Chrome works so solid on Windows and lackluster on Google's Android OS until I realized it's likely hardware.
The x86/x64 Intel based CPUs that make of the heart of Windows, Linux, and even MacOS have been in this game for more than a 2 decades and they've been constantly optimizing the CPU for the internet for half of it.
nVidia hasn't, they've making video cards for the majority. I'm starting to think now that had I thought with my old hardware geek mind, I would have never gone with a Android tablet, I should have bought a Windows tablet PC.
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Its only bad optimization on the infinity tablet. As the same SoC, only a slower version, it is extremly speedy on the nexus 7 tablet. We just have to hope for the best with the JB update.
And for Windows tablet PCs, the batterylife is nowhere compareable to ultrabooks and the infinity. So you have that downside.

I think this is at the root of many of the complaints from people. It looks like a laptop so why doesn't it perform like one. For basic tasks this is a really fantastic device but lets face it, your are running an OS based for something meant to be on and in your pocket 24/7. Its getting better but will it have the physical ability to do the things that a device with 20+ years of development? Not any time soon.
For me the always on feature is really awsome, touchscreen, small size and low power consumption help too. It replaces my laptop on travel and has opened the doors to media that I rarely used on my Viao. But the Viao still sits in its dock on my desk and splashtop manages to cover the shortcommings.
I think there would be less complaints if people did more research prior to purchase, not just about the device but also about the OS.

Of course the tablet won't take over the laptop in demanding tasks. The hardware for the laptop is a lot better. But the weight, battery life, portability, etc on a tablet is much better. Different devices for different purposes. But the dock is precisely why I like this device so much. It's still not a laptop, but at least for certain tasks I can make it as fast as one (for input). I definitely won't have to buy a laptop any time soon, since I already have a PC to do powerful tasks.
To each his own, I guess.
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Things I would like improved in the ASUS Transformer Infinity (TF700T)

So, I've spent a couple of months with the ASUS TF700T and its keyboard dock. Time to rant about things I don't like.
1) Startup time. Cold boot takes more than a minute. This is truly sad when Windows 8 Ultrabooks and Macbooks boot in seconds. Slower processor based android phones also boot faster. Why ASUS? What are you doing in this minute?
2) Critical Bugs. By that I mean glitches that cause the tablet to hang, randomly reboot or randomly shutdown. It's not hot. It's not being used for hours. It just crashes the kernel. It should NOT do that ASUS. I don't need that. Crash the app if you have to, not the whole tablet! Similarly with hot-plugging the dock sometimes.
3) Non-critical Bugs. That refers to little things that don't really affect productivity with the tablet but are driving me (and many others) insane.
a) What is this graphics card driver / whatever else issue that causes the random black lines to flicker on the screen at random intervals? What are these lines? ASUS, you can definitely reproduce this. This is not found on any other android device that I own (Samsung and HTC phones and tablets mainly). I realise it may not be a big deal (stuff does not crash at least), but this is a £500 tablet. This should not be an issue. Really.
b) What is wrong with the keyboard driver? Why do I need an independent app (External Keyboard Helper) to enjoy my hardware keyboard dock that you charge £100? How can this guy make such a great app, with no issues with dead keys (you know what I mean - greek 'tonos' or accent), and you, ASUS, after breaking this functionality on Jelly Bean, can't find a fix? Buy his keyboard and bundle it with your tablets, that's my answer. Give up on this ridiculous "ASUS Keyboard". It's a joke needing a separate keyboard for every language, particularly one that does not work properly. Use Google's standard. Use Hacker's Keyboard from the market (free!). Use Swype. Whatever.
4) Missing features. You give us a tablet with a hardware keyboard having a USB slot. What do people use USB for? No, it's not to plug in a keyboard. It's probably not to plug in a mouse either. External storage maybe, but less so in this cloud-ridden world where everything is on Dropbox.
Charging their phones is what they will use it for. Their iPhones, Androids and whatever. Why can't we do that with the tablet screen off ASUS? Is Apple smarter and they can code the Macbook Air circuitry better? Is this not something people want? I may not need 18h of tablet time - just a charge for my phone. Why should I need to keep the tablet on for that?
5) A 3G / 4G / whatever model, priced competitively. I know I can tether. I'd like to save myself the trouble, and my phone's battery since it is so damn difficult to charge with the built in dock anyway. It's not that hard, it will let carriers offer your tablet as a bundle, it will make you money. The iPad does it, Samsung does it. The only tablets that don't do it are Amazon's - and there are 3G Kindles out there.
5 things. Can you fix them?
Note that stuff like "my generation 1 iPad browses and reads email faster" and "X phone / tablet costing half as much is on 4.2.2 already" and "why should I need to void my warranty to install custom ROMs" are left out here. I don't particularly care about these.
I think the TF700T is an amazing feat of engineering. An incredible, sharp screen, a great form factor, a good looking set with the dock keyboard. But I'm sorry, I'm a guy who regularly forks out £600 on tablets or gadgets and my next tablet will be an iPad or a Samsung or a Kindle. It's just not worth it. I have no patience anymore, because I know that I can get my work done more efficiently with a 3rd party external keyboard and any other tablet. Heck, I can even get a phone, a keyboard and a HDMI screen for the money, and even run Ubuntu more stably.
PS: I am posting this on every android forum I know, just in case find a solution for some of these problems...

This has to be the worst post i have ever seen on the tf700 thread...

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This has to be the worst post i have ever seen on the tf700 thread...
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Agreed. I did however respond to it when posted in Transformer Forums but this person never replied to anything that people have commented on it.
Tylor
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giatros said:
So, I've spent a couple of months with the ASUS TF700T and its keyboard dock. Time to rant about things I don't like.
1) Startup time. Cold boot takes more than a minute. This is truly sad when Windows 8 Ultrabooks and Macbooks boot in seconds. Slower processor based android phones also boot faster. Why ASUS? What are you doing in this minute?
2) Critical Bugs. By that I mean glitches that cause the tablet to hang, randomly reboot or randomly shutdown. It's not hot. It's not being used for hours. It just crashes the kernel. It should NOT do that ASUS. I don't need that. Crash the app if you have to, not the whole tablet! Similarly with hot-plugging the dock sometimes.
3) Non-critical Bugs. That refers to little things that don't really affect productivity with the tablet but are driving me (and many others) insane.
a) What is this graphics card driver / whatever else issue that causes the random black lines to flicker on the screen at random intervals? What are these lines? ASUS, you can definitely reproduce this. This is not found on any other android device that I own (Samsung and HTC phones and tablets mainly). I realise it may not be a big deal (stuff does not crash at least), but this is a £500 tablet. This should not be an issue. Really.
b) What is wrong with the keyboard driver? Why do I need an independent app (External Keyboard Helper) to enjoy my hardware keyboard dock that you charge £100? How can this guy make such a great app, with no issues with dead keys (you know what I mean - greek 'tonos' or accent), and you, ASUS, after breaking this functionality on Jelly Bean, can't find a fix? Buy his keyboard and bundle it with your tablets, that's my answer. Give up on this ridiculous "ASUS Keyboard". It's a joke needing a separate keyboard for every language, particularly one that does not work properly. Use Google's standard. Use Hacker's Keyboard from the market (free!). Use Swype. Whatever.
4) Missing features. You give us a tablet with a hardware keyboard having a USB slot. What do people use USB for? No, it's not to plug in a keyboard. It's probably not to plug in a mouse either. External storage maybe, but less so in this cloud-ridden world where everything is on Dropbox.
Charging their phones is what they will use it for. Their iPhones, Androids and whatever. Why can't we do that with the tablet screen off ASUS? Is Apple smarter and they can code the Macbook Air circuitry better? Is this not something people want? I may not need 18h of tablet time - just a charge for my phone. Why should I need to keep the tablet on for that?
5) A 3G / 4G / whatever model, priced competitively. I know I can tether. I'd like to save myself the trouble, and my phone's battery since it is so damn difficult to charge with the built in dock anyway. It's not that hard, it will let carriers offer your tablet as a bundle, it will make you money. The iPad does it, Samsung does it. The only tablets that don't do it are Amazon's - and there are 3G Kindles out there.
5 things. Can you fix them?
Note that stuff like "my generation 1 iPad browses and reads email faster" and "X phone / tablet costing half as much is on 4.2.2 already" and "why should I need to void my warranty to install custom ROMs" are left out here. I don't particularly care about these.
I think the TF700T is an amazing feat of engineering. An incredible, sharp screen, a great form factor, a good looking set with the dock keyboard. But I'm sorry, I'm a guy who regularly forks out £600 on tablets or gadgets and my next tablet will be an iPad or a Samsung or a Kindle. It's just not worth it. I have no patience anymore, because I know that I can get my work done more efficiently with a 3rd party external keyboard and any other tablet. Heck, I can even get a phone, a keyboard and a HDMI screen for the money, and even run Ubuntu more stably.
PS: I am posting this on every android forum I know, just in case find a solution for some of these problems...
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1)startup time : i never shutdown my tab unless thete is no battery so i use the startup very few times and my lifespan is long enough (around 80 years) to wait for 1mn for a non-critical device to start
2)critical bugs : i don't have any. My tab nearly never crash (4 times since august). Maybe you have a broken tab (use your warranty to change it) or maybe you installed bad-quality applications and apply some customization and parameters not very clever...
3)non-critical bugs : i have some but they don't drive me insane and most of them are app related, not from the tab or asus. And anyway remember that nothing perfect exists and you also are doing mistakes in your own job...
4)missing features : you complain that there is a usb port ? It's one of the best reason to buy that tab ! You say the cloub is here but people don't alluse the cloud and on it the capacity is small (few Gb while my external disk has 1 Tb). And you can't put your photo to the cloud without a computer like that tab to connect your camera and extract your photos.
5)3G/4G : a 3G model exist TF700TG. 4G does not exist but it's normal as 4G was not ready when that tab was designed and put to stores. And at that time, there was NO tab with 4G (even the ipad, the 4G version arrived few months later)
PS : You post on every forum ? I call that spam and i know that will not answer to most of all the answers you will get in all these forums. Question : why don't you post that to world-wide newspapers, maybe the UN could decide of resolution against asus to ask them to meet your expectations ?
Please buy an ipad or whatever you prefer and don't bother us anymore with your poor man complains.
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Wait did he just criticse the tablet for having a USB port. I use the USB for external storage...

Thanks for all your comments, some have been helpful.
I realise that I wasn't very clear on what I said about the USB port. I really like it. I think it should be there. I have adapters for my Samsung Galaxy Tab 7 and my Galaxy Note, (MHL) which I mainly use to connect USB keyboards or thumb drives, or SD readers.
The rant is that there is no constant power to the USB. When the tablet screen locks, USB loses power: thus you can't charge a phone for 10 minutes in your backpack when walking. This is possible with a MacBook Air (that I end up carrying around for this purpose).
Startup time is important, at least to me. It is a major selling point for Mac OS X and Windows 8. People don't want to wait when their gadgets load, that's what I think. Computers do have sleep mode as well (and sadly, they wake up faster from sleep than the Transformer!!!).
I have an iPad as well, generation 1, jailbroken, loaded with 64GB of stuff. The OS must have crashed once or twice in years. Heck, I've even managed to crash a Kindle 3 once in 3 years. I can live with that. But the TF crashes at least once a week. I believe that not that many people experience this issue, so I will RMA mine and hope for the best.
I was not aware there is a 3G version. I have not seen it on sale anywhere. After a lot of googling I realised it's the TF700KL (and it's 4G LTE, which is nice).
Thanks again and sorry if this did not apply to you.

What are you doing to crash it. Even on stock 4.2 I dont remember it crashing?

giatros said:
The rant is that there is no constant power to the USB. When the tablet screen locks, USB loses power: thus you can't charge a phone for 10 minutes in your backpack when walking. This is possible with a MacBook Air (that I end up carrying around for this purpose).
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You are carrying around a MacBook Air only to charge your phone?
giatros said:
Startup time is important, at least to me. It is a major selling point for Mac OS X and Windows 8. People don't want to wait when their gadgets load, that's what I think. Computers do have sleep mode as well (and sadly, they wake up faster from sleep than the Transformer!!!).
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The only time when startup time is important for me is after it crashed again. Otherwise I leave the tablet in standby mode, and it wakes up in a second whenever I need it.
I agree that all these issues exist and are annoying more or less, but you won't ever find a perfect device - all have their quirks. For me, the only real defect from your 5 points is that it really crashes from time to time.

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You are carrying around a MacBook Air only to charge your phone?
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It does work
Standalone batteries are less efficient (plus I forget to charge them)
I have found myself carrying an iPad to tether everything else to sometimes...
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The only time when startup time is important for me is after it crashed again. Otherwise I leave the tablet in standby mode, and it wakes up in a second whenever I need it.
I agree that all these issues exist and are annoying more or less, but you won't ever find a perfect device - all have their quirks. For me, the only real defect from your 5 points is that it really crashes from time to time.
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Yes, crashing is the worst. Writing something and losing it is not nice. Even if it's just a paragraph, it's a waste of time.
I have hopes for a perfect device! One that does what I need and is stable enough. I-devices work, most android phones work, Macs work, PCs work, kindles work - why should this be different?

giatros said:
It does work
Standalone batteries are less efficient (plus I forget to charge them)
I have found myself carrying an iPad to tether everything else to sometimes...
Yes, crashing is the worst. Writing something and losing it is not nice. Even if it's just a paragraph, it's a waste of time.
I have hopes for a perfect device! One that does what I need and is stable enough. I-devices work, most android phones work, Macs work, PCs work, kindles work - why should this be different?
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My tablet only crashes when trying to download torrents. If I dont attempt to download torrents, then I dont have any crashes. Though the beta version of CROMIX I had a game crash once but that is expected on beta and hasnt crashed since.
Tylor
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My tab has crashed a very few times and each time it was while playing a game that was heavely using the GPU/CPU. Maybe your tab has a hardware defect but before sending it back with rma, try a factory reset wich will put back your tab to original configuration (it means you loose your data if you don't save them elsewhere).
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A factory reset is good, but it can ALSO be a system file corrupted, in which I suggest you factory reset, reflash 4.2.1, then another factory reset.
Tylor
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While I do not agree with the OP totally but at least for some parts.
What I don't understand is that people keep defending ASUS as if they are not to blame.
Replies like "This is the worst post ever" I assume you are talking about your own post there.
The black lines are a complete no go for me, if you can't make a HD screen to work put in a low resolution screen, I would have skipped it and maybe be even happy with another tablet. Credits for apple's ipad for that, it is possible guys.
The keyboards menu button is only when your in an app, why is that? Why not in a launcher, where you use menu the most?
And then all these benchmarks, twice as fast as a htc one x, give me a break. My one x really blows away my TF700, it's about performance during the day, not just some numbers.
Installing a rom takes 3 times as long as on my one x...
Maybe it is because most asus fan people have an older smartphone with lower specs but owning a one x does not make things better for the infinity. ;0
The reason for me to keep it is because I bought it in NY for $600 that's about 430 euro incl. keyboard.
If I would have bought it here in Holland it would have been 600+ euro and I wouldn't accept this product as it is.
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J_Dutch said:
While I do not agree with the OP totally but at least for some parts.
What I don't understand is that people keep defending ASUS as if they are not to blame.
Replies like "This is the worst post ever" I assume you are talking about your own post there.
The black lines are a complete no go for me, if you can't make a HD screen to work put in a low resolution screen, I would have skipped it and maybe be even happy with another tablet. Credits for apple's ipad for that, it is possible guys.
The keyboards menu button is only when your in an app, why is that? Why not in a launcher, where you use menu the most?
And then all these benchmarks, twice as fast as a htc one x, give me a break. My one x really blows away my TF700, it's about performance during the day, not just some numbers.
Installing a rom takes 3 times as long as on my one x...
Maybe it is because most asus fan people have an older smartphone with lower specs but owning a one x does not make things better for the infinity. ;0
The reason for me to keep it is because I bought it in NY for $600 that's about 430 euro incl. keyboard.
If I would have bought it here in Holland it would have been 600+ euro and I wouldn't accept this product as it is.
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The TF700 out of the box is junk which is indeed only my personal preference. Many people have the stock device and are very happy with it. I also suggest people who compare a tablet with a keyboard to another, then type papers of a phone or a regular tablet without a keyboard and see how long it takes you. It is indeed ASUS fault for their bloated ROM, but if you use CromiX or Cyanogen Mod, It will blow any stock device out of the water. The black lines are no big deal, and dont occur when watching movies. I only see that when using Tapatalk or browsing, and it is rare. If you want a device out of the box go for a different device. The TF700 has gotten better with 4.2.1 as it fixed a lot typing application lag and such, but still dont compare to a un-bloated and tweaked ROM.
Tylor
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Tylorw1 said:
The TF700 out of the box is junk which is indeed only my personal preference. Many people have the stock device and are very happy with it. I also suggest people who compare a tablet with a keyboard to another, then type papers of a phone or a regular tablet without a keyboard and see how long it takes you. It is indeed ASUS fault for their bloated ROM, but if you use CromiX or Cyanogen Mod, It will blow any stock device out of the water. The black lines are no big deal, and dont occur when watching movies. I only see that when using Tapatalk or browsing, and it is rare. If you want a device out of the box go for a different device. The TF700 has gotten better with 4.2.1 as it fixed a lot typing application lag and such, but still dont compare to a un-bloated and tweaked ROM.
Tylor
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You are right about that, I have tweaked my One X. But on stock sense it's not far behind the tweaked Infinity.
And let's not forget the One X is even more expensive for me, so you get a lot of hardware for the money(at least what I paid for it)
The concept is brilliant, it's more that I'm slightly dissapointed cause if performance was wat is expected this device would have been the best ever, and I'm sure it could have been if asus at least would have done better I/O performance. But then again, will there ever be a perfect device?
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The thing is, I don't think the speed should be an issue. I don't play that many games (certainly not power-hungry ones), I don't download torrents on the TF700T.
I have been flashing custom ROMs on devices since my HTC Prophet - and custom ROMs are usually less stable than the factory ROM (they are faster and with more eye-candy). Why this is not the case here I don't know.
I like the tablet to read papers and books (mainly PDF, some ePub), this is why I wanted the high resolution screen.
Screen tearing when reading is distracting and very disappointing.
I try to write papers on the TF700T. I write some forum posts. But the problems there are
1) Can't use a reference manager - there is no cite as you write, or at least I haven't found one
2) Random crashing or flushing the app from memory causes loss of data
3) When I want to write in Greek, I HAVE to use a non-ASUS keyboard app as the ASUS keyboard does not let you put accents in since 4.2.1
The touchscreen is great for reading stuff, underlining etc. But this tablet is problematic; may be just my device (I hope). It certainly feels like a beta product.
I wanted to reinstall the OS as well, however ASUS seems to have pulled the 10.6.1.14.4 from their download site (I get file not found for http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/EeePAD/TF700T/TF700T_WW_epaduser_V1061144UpdateLauncher.zip )

I just wanted to say this:
There is a very noticeable issue with the Tegra 3's 4+1 processor setup that some things (recovery for example) do not handle too well and end up using that power saver core as the main core. For example, in TWRP, on my Droid RAZR the little slider to confirm something is very liquid, as is the loading bar's animation, but on the TF700T, it lags immensely.
That is the one issue I have with it. As far as Quadrant scores or benchmarks, mine have been all over the place even on CM10.1. It doesn't matter that on CROMI it can get a 10,000 if you can't switch between two apps in less than 10 seconds.
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Would you buy your TF700 again?

With all the warranty and alleged issues would you buy one again on sale or is there a different tablet you would get this times? Being 6'11, I need a 10 inch tablet but I'm on the fence but it seems like the safest bet and I didn't feel like risking the "China special".

Jimbo15 said:
With all the warranty issues and alleged issues would you buy one again on sale or is there a different tablet you would get this times? Being 6'11, I need a 10 inch tablet but I'm on the fence but it seems like the safest bet and I didn't feel like risking the "China special".
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Actually, I would indeed. However, the TF700 stock is blah, you have to unlock the tablet to unleash its true potential. With ROMS like CyanogenMod and CromiX it makes it faster than a stock Nexus 7. But since it is about a year old It may be work to wait.
Tylor
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Tylorw1 said:
Actually, I would indeed. However, the TF700 stock is blah, you have to unlock the tablet to unleash its true potential. With ROMS like CyanogenMod and CromiX it makes it faster than a stock Nexus 7. But since it is about a year old It may be work to wait.
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Thanks, took the plunge it was hard not to at >300.

I would buy it again without hesitation.
The combo with the dock and CromiX is still atm unbeatable.
On travel with 15hrs batt time watching full hd movies, do 90% on it what I do on my laptop, the microsdcard, the sdcard in the dock, the usb slot, no other combo is available atm that can beat that. Period.
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Jimbo15 said:
With all the warranty and alleged issues would you buy one again on sale or is there a different tablet you would get this times? Being 6'11, I need a 10 inch tablet but I'm on the fence but it seems like the safest bet and I didn't feel like risking the "China special".
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Sent from my Asus Infinity TF700 with Dock

Congrats! Hope you can also find a great deal for the dock. From a productivity perspective, I would also buy it again-the keyboard and extra battery definitely puts the tablet above the rest in my opinion. From a multimedia perspective, I may have given more serious thought to Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 - I've heard it runs fairly smooth and having speakers in the front is a nice feature.

In a heartbeat.
Drenus said:
From a multimedia perspective, I may have given more serious thought to Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 - I've heard it runs fairly smooth and having speakers in the front is a nice feature.
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It really doesn't. I have a GT2 10.1, too, and it's utter rubbish. Sluggish, blurry, lags an awful lot... My TF700 on stock runs laps around the GT2 10.1.

ShadowLea said:
In a heartbeat.
It really doesn't. I have a GT2 10.1, too, and it's utter rubbish. Sluggish, blurry, lags an awful lot... My TF700 on stock runs laps around the GT2 10.1.
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Good to know I made the right decision with TF700! :good:

Jimbo15 said:
With all the warranty and alleged issues would you buy one again on sale or is there a different tablet you would get this times? Being 6'11, I need a 10 inch tablet but I'm on the fence but it seems like the safest bet and I didn't feel like risking the "China special".
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Probably not. While I haven't unlocked it yet, I did root it and for a while everything was great. Then ASUS pushed an update last December, I think, and from then on the tablet became the most frustrating I've ever used. Incredible lag (3 - 5 seconds for the menu to come up after tapping the lower right corner!!!) and other flaky behavior -- like root suddenly stopped working without my doing anything ... Voodoo showed it still rooted, but superuser was completely nonfunctional. Three reboots later root is working again (?!) and it's just back to being laggy.
I'll never buy another ASUS tablet again if they paid me.
mudge
P.S. I suppose I should unlock it and install a custom ROM one of these days ...

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Probably not. While I haven't unlocked it yet, I did root it and for a while everything was great. Then ASUS pushed an update last December, I think, and from then on the tablet became the most frustrating I've ever used. Incredible lag (3 - 5 seconds for the menu to come up after tapping the lower right corner!!!) and other flaky behavior -- like root suddenly stopped working without my doing anything ... Voodoo showed it still rooted, but superuser was completely nonfunctional. Three reboots later root is working again (?!) and it's just back to being laggy.
I'll never buy another ASUS tablet again if they paid me.
mudge
P.S. I suppose I should unlock it and install a custom ROM one of these days ...
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Truthfully have you tried a factory reset and such? I am unlocked but did install the stock 4.2.1 and I felt it ran really well, compared to 4.1.1 anyways, which is what was pushed in December. If you had your tablet for 10 months, or already unlocked but having flashed CromiX, you should definitely do so .
Also I agree with another posted above even though I already commented once . Today I was flashing files, modding, for about 7 hours straight. I didnt have dock on but I had it with me. When the tablet hit about 30%, I put the dock on to recharge that battery. By the time the dock was at 0%, the tablet was back at 75% Now, if you can get 7 hours on 70%, with dock adding back up to 3/4 battery, its an easy 12-14 hours of tablet. I doubt any tablet out there can do that . A friend had a HTC phone, forget exact version. He was playing it for maybe 3 hours and his phone was already half way dead, and he didnt have a backup battery either .
Tylor
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk HD

iCurmudgeon said:
Probably not. While I haven't unlocked it yet, I did root it and for a while everything was great. Then ASUS pushed an update last December, I think, and from then on the tablet became the most frustrating I've ever used. Incredible lag (3 - 5 seconds for the menu to come up after tapping the lower right corner!!!) and other flaky behavior -- like root suddenly stopped working without my doing anything ... Voodoo showed it still rooted, but superuser was completely nonfunctional. Three reboots later root is working again (?!) and it's just back to being laggy.
I'll never buy another ASUS tablet again if they paid me.
mudge
P.S. I suppose I should unlock it and install a custom ROM one of these days ...
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Unlock and all your problems will disappear. It's weird to think a third party can advance a tab better than the company's own developers, but they can tenfold.

No.
And I shouldn't have to massage it into acceptable working order by violating the warranty.

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No.
And I shouldn't have to massage it into acceptable working order by violating the warranty.
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A warranty that only fixes hardware issues, not software. The only way to actually get an acceptable ROM, to me anyways, is to unlock. I personally think 4.2.1 fresh runs great, however it is bloated, and the stock kernel could use some of _That's tweaking to make it acceptable, again personal opinion. And sbdags or dasunsrules, dont know if I spelled correct, will treat help you much more then ASUS will ever software wise.
Tylor
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk HD

flhthemi said:
No.
And I shouldn't have to massage it into acceptable working order by violating the warranty.
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It is what it is. If you're unhappy with it, you have three options: Take it back, keep it and endlessly complain about it, or flash a tweaked rom.
It does seem a wierd place to complain about it though, on forums where people have found the solution for all of us. People who have risked their warranties also for the benefit of everyone.. just saying.

CiaronDarcOne said:
It is what it is. If you're unhappy with it, you have three options: Take it back, keep it and endlessly complain about it, or flash a tweaked rom.
It does seem a wierd place to complain about it though, on forums where people have found the solution for all of us. People who have risked their warranties also for the benefit of everyone.. just saying.
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After 1 or two months of use,if a problem doesnt occur, then more then likely no hardware problem will occur. If something happens, like a screen breaking, they will still place the blame on you. It is only a warranty from defects, not accidental use. So I dont even see the use after a couple months. Truthfully my screen has defects in it, but I live with it. It is not a HUGE dual and can only see it when the screen is off. So it dont actually effect the use of it while you are using it, so no sense in sending it in, and I unlocked knowing the defect, but it is a minor one. The bigger defect was the software ROM on it, but that is fixed .
Tylor
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk HD

Jimbo15 said:
With all the warranty and alleged issues would you buy one again on sale or is there a different tablet you would get this times? Being 6'11, I need a 10 inch tablet but I'm on the fence but it seems like the safest bet and I didn't feel like risking the "China special".
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Yes.
The ASUS TF700T worked fine out-of-the-box, but lagged with the stock ROM. Unlocking it and installing CleanROM Inheritance was the best thing I ever did.
There are two things that I wish it had out-of-the box. The first is a USB port and the second is a version with cellular data services.
I have the USB port adapter and love the fact that ASUS made it a powered USB port adapter, but having a true USB port would have been preferable.
There are times when I wish that I had cellular data services on it, in addition to WiFi. Most phones today have the ability to act as a hotspot, so it's not a big deal, but it would have been more convenient.

Yes. I've used it for university and the dock combo meant I've typed all my notes on ever note. I used it stock for 5 months and even then it was okay. Recently since the latest jb it got slower and so I got the bug for flashing customs. Never looked back since. Performance is amazing. Is quick, snappy, access apps quickly. Annoying it took to now to realise it but glad I did.
At the end of the day you use a tablet to use noted to look at. I'd rather get my moneys worth out of it than barely use it as its buggy etc.
If if breaks it breaks which I hope to god it doesn't. But already I used it and wasnt frustrated with it.
I love it. Which there were more accessories I.e a real smart cover but still love it. Tried the Samsung 10.2 and was awful compared. Resolution was horrid.
I'm sat in car on a long drive with this tethered to my phone loving life.
Just enjoy it. Use it.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using xda app-developers app

hell the F*ck No!
Should have bought a Ultra Book and a Kindle HD.
This thing cost me $750 with the keyboard.
and I prefer to use my ICS phone that's almost 2 yrs old for just about anything I can do with the tablet except videos.
It's totally laggy, and unusable if a app is updating in the background. Some websites take 30+ sec to load.
I've had more random reboots with this tablet then I've had in my entire life with Windows, and I go back to Win 3.1!
My take is: Asus is great at offering features and design, but they suck on execution for anything other than motherboards.

While I enjoy my tablet greatly I'm not sure I would recommend it. I'm one of the small number of people who for whatever reason, their tablets are unable to unlock using the unlocking tool. This renders me unable to experience what others are saying concerning flashing better roms to really make the tablet perform. I also can't get OTAs or user the device tracker. It's currently shipping back from RMA to fix some light bleed on the screen and the issue with the tablet being unable to get OTAs/device tracker to work. I just called and the service rep said the screen was replaced with a new one and all tests they ran on the system came back fine. He couldn't say if the main problem that concerned me of the tablet not communicating with the Asus servers was fixed but there should be a detailed report of what was done. If the unlock tool doesn't work fine, but the tablet should be able to receive any updates Asus releases from the moment it's turned on after purchase. I was fine running the stock rom with any bloatware turned off. Coming from the Prime, it is a smooth user experience for me. My day is not ruined if it takes an extra 3 seconds to open an application.
With the dock this tablet is truly remarkable. The extra battery and being able to type takes the device beyond other tablets in usage. Sure anyone can get a blue tooth keyboard but that is only going to drain the battery faster. It also has the usb port and full size sd-card slot. The screen is really nice and even though I have a anti-glare protector which does subtract from it's clear picture, it's still great.
The reason I wouldn't recommend it is the price and lack of support from some of the big game developers. This is supposed to be a top notch portable multimedia experience and with the gpu in it we shouldn't be stuck running games which are not fully using the hardware. Look around the forums as there are ways to side load the games on to the system but that doesn't mean they will all function properly. Concerning price, a person will end up dropping about $650-700 bucks after tax for the tablet dock combo. If I were to be buying a tablet again and what I've told two coworkers, I'd go for the TF300 line. Sure the screen is not as good but the tablet/dock combo comes out to about $500. Or I would hold out and see what summer tablets are lined up. So far I'm actually not impressed with what the manufactures have out now. I'm interested in seeing what Samsung's new Exynos processors can do in a tablet.

Enjoying my tab, arrived overnight refurbed for $291 pristene condition. Unfortunately it came updated and is on 4.2.1 the kernels 3.1.10, would of like to of tried it before the update and I believe the unlocking options are easier (still confirming). More testing to do before I can unlock what are the most popular\necessary tweaks?
Edit: nevermind this is thread I failed to find b4 asking http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1834521

No