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(Q)ICS rom

In theory wouldn't we be able to take an ics Rom from the prime, get drivers working for our tegra to achieve hardware acceleration? Not completely sure of the differences between both devices other than the processor.
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It would take time in order for developers to translate the drivers.
Put it this way. It would be quicker, and easier, to wait even a month for the TF101 to receive ICS rather than trying to translate from the Prime to the TF101.
Rumor mill has it that the TF101 will be receiving ICS at the end of the month.

I heard a rumor about an ICS rom already out there on the web, but that's just a rumor. You have to ask yourself if it's worth it to risk your tablet's life or just wait a month. Don't do like me...

Fellas, they're already working on porting the Motorola xoom's ICS over to the TF101 as we speak. Working out a few bugs now, could possibly be here before the official ICS build if noobs will quit asking them how to flash the unfinished product and other development-unrelated questions (in other words, have a peek, but don't bug the big guys at work )
BTW TF201 has the Tegra 3, while Xoom has a tegra 2..much easier to port from what I understand..so don't hold your breath on the Prime's ICS coming to roost on your OG TF any time soon..

I saw something from Asus that said we won't be getting it until February. I'll be looking forward to the Xoom port!

brando56894 said:
I saw something from Asus that said we won't be getting it until February. I'll be looking forward to the Xoom port!
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I personnally think it's stupid to take risks to get what you can get in one month, in a more adapted way. Who knows! Maybe you'll end up bricking your device...

Xoom has most of the same hardware....so they're just taking the items that aren't for our device and replacing them with proper drivers.
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Horclok said:
I personnally think it's stupid to take risks to get what you can get in one month, in a more adapted way. Who knows! Maybe you'll end up bricking your device...
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For one, it isn't a risk once the devs have gotten it right to flash if you know what you are doing, there will have been 100 people who flashed the ROM repeatedly while testing before you ever gt your hands on it.
Second point- the official ICS update will almost surely take some time to Root, if your device wasn't rooted before the update, and no such problem will exist with a dev ICS ROM since it will be rooted in the source.
Final point- ICS is ICS, if the hardware works, and software functions, there isn't much difference between the official build and a ported build, except for the ported build is at the mercy of the devs to put whatever goodies and extras the official ICS build didn't include..
ICS official = wait and get stuck without root
ICS dev ROM = be here soon and have root + extras.
Which one do you prefer now?

Horclok said:
I personnally think it's stupid to take risks to get what you can get in one month, in a more adapted way. Who knows! Maybe you'll end up bricking your device...
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Outside of proprietary hardware drivers, I have yet to see an OEM ROM exceed performance of a community ROM. OEMs have nowhere near the amount of people working on their ROMs as a community version, and nowhere near the amount of eyes checking for bugs.
Cheers!
-M
Xda member since 2007

luna_c666 said:
For one, it isn't a risk once the devs have gotten it right to flash if you know what you are doing, there will have been 100 people who flashed the ROM repeatedly while testing before you ever gt your hands on it.
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There is always a risk when you flash a rom, always. Now I had your opinion before I bricked my device, and I knew what I was doing. Then again, you have to choose between security and variety.

dragon_76 said:
Outside of proprietary hardware drivers, I have yet to see an OEM ROM exceed performance of a community ROM. OEMs have nowhere near the amount of people working on their ROMs as a community version, and nowhere near the amount of eyes checking for bugs.
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This is so true. Even if the OTA ICS update were to be released, I would still wait for a Dev to mess around with it before I updated. Call me crazy, but I'm not a fan of OEM skins and their performance is always lacking.

Horclok said:
There is always a risk when you flash a rom, always. Now I had your opinion before I bricked my device, and I knew what I was doing. Then again, you have to choose between security and variety.
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How did you get a brick? Flash failed halfway through or something? I've probably flashed 100 ROMs, from xbox to android, the only device I ever bricked was a windows phone, and its just soft bricked now. I didn't know what I was doing with that thing...I've had plenty of close calls don't get me wrong, heck I lifted up a trace on my xbox motherboard and had to repair it on the spot with solder within 10 minutes or the clock-capacitor would have discharged forcing me into clock-loops (death for an xbox)..'know what you're doing' has very different levels of complexity
There is always a risk, to be sure, I should have worded myself better. But the same amount of risk as any ROM, not specific to this one..I've never heard of an OTA update failing and bricking a device, but I'm sure it can happen as well..anytime you are flashing onboard firmware there's always a chance something can go wrong. I was just saying that a Dev rom will have been flashed and booted and reflashed 100 or 1000 times by the devs during the build process before any of us 'outsiders' gets a taste of it. In my opinion, that's about as risk-free as it gets with modding these things..and in the end, who is going to upgrade to ICS without wanting it rooted? At least, who on this site?
I feel much more confident loading an already rooted ICS rom from the community than I do flashing the OTA update and wondering if I'm going to lose root/recovery etc. It is a personal opinion though..

luna_c666 said:
I feel much more confident loading an already rooted ICS rom from the community than I do flashing the OTA update and wondering if I'm going to lose root/recovery etc. It is a personal opinion though..
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This.
OEM updates of any kind are more known for borking a system than a community version and again, it is because there are many more eyes on a community version. OEM versions are seen as a necessary evil for them. The life cycle of the product is usually over or already over and they do not want to devote any resources to an endeavour that now only costs money instead of makes money.
Asus may be a little different with the TF101 because they still are selling a fair amount of them. Best Buy still keeps restocking the 16GB version and with the TF201 problems they may push the TF101 as a sort of "budget premium" since ICS completely re-invigorates older hardware (my Atrix is running an alpha build without OC and GPU accel and it is just as smooth as full GPU and OC).
I still plan on waiting for Gnufabio's ICS Revolver release.
Cheers!
-M
Xda member since 2007

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I still plan on waiting for Gnufabio's ICS Revolver release.7
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I just tingled at the thought.
ICS does breathe a lot of new life in to old hardware. My old Incredible runs it fairly smoothly, just laggs a bit on transitions. But it did make me more interested in my old phone.

RAZR ICS ota update Leaked!

i was really just wondering if we could pull anything from this, for cm9 or just to help us get ics on he a2 in general... heres the link!
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/motorola-droid-razr-ics-version-6-14-75-update-leaked/

I wish it could help us, but our main problem with getting ICS on the A2 is that we need the correct libraries for our specific radio... so a CDMA Razr's radio files won't help us there.

cogeary said:
I wish it could help us, but our main problem with getting ICS on the A2 is that we need the correct libraries for our specific radio... so a CDMA Razr's radio files won't help us there.
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Well darn. Well either way a leak for the a2 should just be around the corner!

I sure hope so. We just have to keep checking cheesecake!

Everybody NEEDS to be using CHEESECAKE!!!!!

JRW 28 said:
Everybody NEEDS to be using CHEESECAKE!!!!!
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i would love to help by checking cheesecake. I am not entirely clear on how to access cheesecake

twostep665 said:
i would love to help by checking cheesecake. I am not entirely clear on how to access cheesecake
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"Project Cheesecake" was originally intended to pull unfinished updates from Motorola's update servers to possible find an unlocked bootloader. We can also use Cheesecake to pull early ICS builds for our phone off of Motorola's servers . Here's the original Cheesecake thread for the A2 (you need to be rooted!).

This might be a dumb question, but why can't we just do a rom without a radio and use the radio that's already installed. I've seen it done numerous times and the benefit was that those who used other freqs 850/900mhz didn't have to worry about losing 3G and all that. I had an old Cliq XT and turl over at M3 did that poor phone a lot of good and I never once had to change radios and the roms were built without radios.

41rw4lk said:
This might be a dumb question, but why can't we just do a rom without a radio and use the radio that's already installed. I've seen it done numerous times and the benefit was that those who used other freqs 850/900mhz didn't have to worry about losing 3G and all that. I had an old Cliq XT and turl over at M3 did that poor phone a lot of good and I never once had to change radios and the roms were built without radios.
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ICS is a major change from GB, so libraries change .. we can't use radio that we had from GB.

I suppose we still can't pull motocast from there and get it to work wirelessly/remotely on our A2?
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Can someone summarize the main advantages of ICS over GB 3.6 ???

eeter said:
Can someone summarize the main advantages of ICS over GB 3.6 ???
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I think you mean 2.6.
In my experience, ICS is smoother graphically (transitions/everything), more visually appealing (which also goes back to graphics), has nicer app/folder organization skills, better settings menus...it's slick. It just feels better to use. I almost sat my A2 on a shelf in favor of my ICS-loaded Captivate because of how much nicer ICS is in general. Almost.

Ajfink said:
I think you mean 2.6.
In my experience, ICS is smoother graphically (transitions/everything), more visually appealing (which also goes back to graphics), has nicer app/folder organization skills, better settings menus...it's slick. It just feels better to use. I almost sat my A2 on a shelf in favor of my ICS-loaded Captivate because of how much nicer ICS is in general. Almost.
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No, he means 2.3.6.....ie 3.6.....lol
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Ajfink said:
I think you mean 2.6.
In my experience, ICS is smoother graphically (transitions/everything), more visually appealing (which also goes back to graphics), has nicer app/folder organization skills, better settings menus...it's slick. It just feels better to use. I almost sat my A2 on a shelf in favor of my ICS-loaded Captivate because of how much nicer ICS is in general. Almost.
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+1. As well as performance increases and bragging rights

[Q] Neutrino or ROM similar to neutrino for atrix 2?

Hey all,
So basically the wifi/Bluetooth hardware has crapped out on this phone and since there's no Atrix 4g anymore they're sending me an Atrix 2 MB865 tomorrow.
Having tried a lot of different ROMs on the 4g my favorite by far is the NEUTRINO ROM ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1398819 ).
I was curious if anyone had also made the switch from the 4g to the 2 and if they can reccomend a comparable ROM. I'll probably have to try what's available and find out for myself, but any guidance is appreciated!
Thanks.
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RebelRom or VictoryRom easy to install debloated, really responsive.
Supercharged V5, excellent Rom, bit more to install. Probably the best as well.
I use VictoryRom because I don't have the patience to install Supercharged.
Waiting for the release of RebelRom stable.
Well I am sure none of this helped!
Really you cannot go wrong with any of them, it's a matter of taste.
ATRIX 2 / Victory Rom

I would say VictoryRom is closest to that. Atrix 4G's bootloader is unlocked right? Atrix 2 is not. So there are workarounds that make installing ROMs a different process.
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Use victory Rom for simplicity and closest to stock
Rebel Rom for a bit tweaked and sony-like launcher
Supercharged Rom for heavy tweaking and slight theming
Blaze Rom for both heavy tweaking and heavy theming
But the rom you wanted is based off cyanogen mod, our bootloader is locked therefore our customizations are limited and cyanogen mod isn't available for the atrix 2 yet.

Thanks for the replies. It is going to be hard not having cyanogenmod...to the point where I may sell the phone and opt for an SGS II for the time being which I hate to say because I love my Atrix .
Are there still folks working on unlocking the bootloader? I read the project cheesecake thread but it seems it's been going on forever with no real progress.
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Some folks are working on CM7 for the Atrix 2 (using the 2nd init method iirc).
Last I heard it was close to testing...

kisnerct said:
Thanks for the replies. It is going to be hard not having cyanogenmod...to the point where I may sell the phone and opt for an SGS II for the time being which I hate to say because I love my Atrix .
Are there still folks working on unlocking the bootloader? I read the project cheesecake thread but it seems it's been going on forever with no real progress.
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People (mainly Jim) are working on a method to get around the bootloader (bypass it) using kexec. It's maybe a couple weeks from being released. And wer're getting ICS sometime in July officially. We'll probably have a leaked version months before allowing us to get CM9 in. SO I HIGHLY RECOMMEND NOT SELLING YOUR PHONE. That is all.

farshad525hou said:
People (mainly Jim) is working on a method to get around the bootloader (bypass it) using kexec. It's maybe a couple weeks from being released. And wer're getting ICS sometime in July officially. We'll probably have a leaked version months before allowing us to get CM9 in. SO I HIGLY RECOMMEND NOT SELLING YOUR PHONE. That is all.
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Couldn't have said it better myself.
Jim is working on bypassing the bootloader and CM7 so you will probably see the two released around the same time.

cogeary said:
Couldn't have said it better myself.
Jim is working on bypassing the bootloader and CM7 so you will probably see the two released around the same time.
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that too

Got the phone, rooted it and not even bothering with a ROM atm, just some tweaks (remove bloatware, deblur, launcher, cpu etc).
Honestly, in just the first day I'm liking this phone a bit more than the Atrix 4g. Phone is snappy, my speedtests are insane (don't know if it's true 4g lte, but I live in Boston and I got about 10mb/s down earlier, 1.5up), and the screen/colors seem a lot better than the 4g but that could just be all in my head due to the slightly larger screen size.
So I'm not gonna jump ship and go SGS II, just going to be patient and wait for the unlocked bootloader

[Q] Really need to ask these questions before I go further

Okay, i'm new to the whole rooting thing and I think I get the basic concept and all of that, but is it beneficial for me?
- Right now i'm running Nova launcher and have it set up perfect for me. No problem with speed or any of that, so not an issue there,
- I have windows 8 so does this make the process of rooting any different? I hear it does in some cases and I don't want to be screwed if I get stuck
- The only reason I am even thinking about rooting is to just get a dang update on my phone. I'm tired of waiting for updates I feel will never come.
- I would need a ROM that I could count on without checking for updates religiously.
- Is rooting something for me? Or should I stick with Nova seeing that I get a satisfying experience with it. (I also hear a lot of ROM's ship with Nova anyway.)
- Is there any step by step tutorials with windows 8 complete with all of the files I will need? (Excluding ROM's of course. I would get those on my own)

If you haven't fully researched rooting or completely understand it I don't recommend it. Also, what's so bad about ics that makes you think jb will blow it away?
Don't take offense as that's not my intention. There are so many posts about people soft bricking their phone or worse mainly because they don't fully understand it or to impatient to wait. The only real reason I rooted was to remove bloatware. I'm still on 4.0.4 and not complaining a smidge
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Spastic909 said:
If you haven't fully researched rooting or completely understand it I don't recommend it. Also, what's so bad about ics that makes you think jb will blow it away?
Don't take offense as that's not my intention. There are so many posts about people soft bricking their phone or worse mainly because they don't fully understand it or to impatient to wait. The only real reason I rooted was to remove bloatware. I'm still on 4.0.4 and not complaining a smidge
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No offence taken at all. I just like the stock android so much which is why I wish I could get my hands on a nexus device, but unfortunately being a college student, I take what I can get.
And iv'e researched it as much as I could im just still confused with a couple things such as the Drivers some people have told me I need to get etc etc. I've watched flows videos over and over and I get HOW to do it, but was there anything done before in any way?

If you dig your setup with nova launcher id suggest sticking with that and wait till official ota. However if u still want to root, make sure its not a USB 3.0 connection as I've seen from another post doesn't seem to work.
Rooting is pretty easy as long as you don't skip steps. Unlock bootloader, flash recovery, flash superuser, flash Rom after wiping everything but not before you make a nandroid backup of stock Rom and save it to storage externally, flash boot.img located within zip after Rom flash
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By the sound of it, you have no need for root. You are happy with your current setup and doesnt appear to be an 'advanced user' who messes around in the system all day.
My suggestion is to read up what root actually does, then decide if its something you need/want.
By the sound of your first post - no, you dont need root.

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If you are happy running Nova launcher on a sense kernel than just wait for ota.
By the way... Nova being used by a rom is no different than what you are doing now.
Now if you want the Nexus experience then by all means root. CyanogenMod is awesome on the One S and has everything working fine. I am using it and have the latest Android 4.2.2. CM gives us updates almost as quickly as the Nexus gets.
To the other poster mentioning why would one need jellybean.
Jellybean is on a whole new level compared to ICS. Much faster and smoother. Until you try it you will not understand how ICS is just not as good. Plus the Google Now and the rest of Google services are amazing on JB.
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I'm very familiar with jb for your information...
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Jellybean is on a whole new level compared to ICS. Much faster and smoother. Until you try it you will not understand how ICS is just not as good. Plus the Google Now and the rest of Google services are amazing on JB.
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If you are comparing stock ICS with stock JB, JB is terrible compared to ICS. AOSP JB is better than ICS though, on that I can agree.

I was referring to AOSP JB. I gave up on Sense a long time ago. The only thing I miss about sense kernel is the loudness of Beats Audio. There are sound mods available but none are as loud as Beats on stock.
I did try the EU update version of JB and I felt it was much smoother than ICS. Battery life was the negative on stock JB.
CM 10.1 has been incredible. CM will help me hold on to this phone a little longer until I decide between the One, rumored Moto X, or next Nexus.
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Is unlocking worth it?

I've had my infinity for a couple of weeks now and I'm really frustrated with the lag. I want to unlock it but I've heard stories of people who owned one and a manufacturer defect didn't appear for a month. For example a couple of black lines appearing that won't go away. So far I haven't found any defects but I'm worried that if I unlock then something will happen and I can't return it.
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Yep do it. Get some love!:good:

I really want to. But would it be wise to wait a few more weeks to make sure there's no defects?
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Is unlocking worth it?
The answer will always be yes.
Is the tablet worth much before unlocking?
No

Thats OK said:
Is unlocking worth it?
The answer will always be yes.
Is the tablet worth much before unlocking?
No
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I agree but if something happens like the screen randomly giving out then I'm screwed
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laod said:
I agree but if something happens like the screen randomly giving out then I'm screwed
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In the meantime while you're deciding whether to unlock or not, go into "Settings / Developer Options" and put a check in "Force GPU rendering". Then under "Window animation scale", Transition animation scale" and "Animator duration scale", disable all of those.
I go tired of the slideshow animations, so I disabled them all. My tablet has the appearance of snappiness now. Rooting, unlocking, and romming my tablet didn't get rid of the horrible slideshow. Disabling animations does.

Thanks for the tip. How likely are issues to show up? And if they do will asus cover it? If it's not very likely then ill unlock and install cromi
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laod said:
Thanks for the tip.
How likely are issues to show up?
And if they do will asus cover it?
If it's not very likely then ill unlock and install CROMi
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A bit of a tough call...boils down to luck of the draw so to speak.
Asus may give you grief even with a locked tab.
My own experience:
Had the Infinity since July 2012.
Minor light bleed at first: diminished to a point where it isn't noticeable.
Some clicking around the glass at first: one spot now above the power port-no issue for me since this tablet is in a Bobj case.
Unlocked and re-rommed with original CleanROM around October\November or whenever JB first was pushed.
Few months to go and my tab will be a year old so if I make it with no hardware failures unlocking was the best option for me.
*note
I dropped this tab off a nightstand 4 weeks ago and dinged the corner (it was in a light folio) it never skipped a beat.
Bottom line
It's your call

Ok thanks. Disabling the animations and enabling force gpu rendering solved my problems with lag. So for now I have no need to unlock. My plan now is to wait a month or maybe 2 and then unlock if no issues come up. Thanks for the advice
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Thats OK said:
Is unlocking worth it?
The answer will always be yes.
Is the tablet worth much before unlocking?
No
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I'm aware to not make a lot of friends in saying this ... but I found the stock JB ROM a decent system. For me it has not really been as bad as you can read here a lot. Have to say though that I never had to use the ICS stock version, which seemingly really was not a good choice.
I have unlocked mine and flashed a custom ROM, but in my case more for the fun of it. Using the stock ROM until your warranty runs out is a good option. You might look into rooting it anyway, which will not harm your warranty.

FordPrefect said:
I'm aware to not make a lot of friends in saying this ... but I found the stock JB ROM a decent system. For me it has not really been as bad as you can read here a lot. Have to say though that I never had to use the ICS stock version, which seemingly really was not a good choice.
I have unlocked mine and flashed a custom ROM, but in my case more for the fun of it. Using the stock ROM until your warranty runs out is a good option. You might look into rooting it anyway, which will not harm your warranty.
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Why would you not have friends by saying stock is good?
Non-stock ROMs have seen tremendous success their ongoing development is just icing on the cake.
I'm sure there are thousands of happy users that have no idea that aftermarket ROMs even exist.

Thats OK said:
Why would you not have friends by saying stock is good?
Non-stock ROMs have seen tremendous success their ongoing development is just icing on the cake.
I'm sure there are thousands of happy users that have no idea that aftermarket ROMs even exist.
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Just thought because everyone is beating on the fact that only custom ROMs make this thing fly. Again, I'm a very new Infinity user, my only experience with stock ROMs is from using the JB 10.4.4.25 version. And this is a good choice in my opinion.

FordPrefect said:
Just thought because everyone is beating on the fact that only custom ROMs make this thing fly. Again, I'm a very new Infinity user, my only experience with stock ROMs is from using the JB 10.4.4.25 version. And this is a good choice in my opinion.
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The stock ROM is mixed bag -- some have actually preferred ICS to JB, and there are some that prefer it the other way around. Nonetheless, I'd be surprised if you wouldn't prefer custom ROMs to the stock versions once you unlock and flash away.
I do underwrite fully your statement that if the stock ROM doesn't bother you, it's not that of an immediate need to unlock and flash a custom ROM, especially if you are an easily frightened Infinity owner.

I know this forum seems aimed at custom ROMs.
Certainly no need if one is pleased with the tablet in it's pure form.
XDA is a site that used to forge development vs. troubleshooting.
It's all good tho...everyone enjoys helping as much as possible.
No worries

I'd say just root then install browser2ram and set that up in the stock browsers debug settings, then wait for the next update which should be in a month or so.
After the update see if you are still wanting and then decided if you want to unlock. Remember this is a techie site and people here tend to advise people to take more aggressive actions, as they are speaking from an area that they are very comfortable, but I tend to advise people like yourself to be more conservative and patient.

mc_365 said:
I'd say just root then install browser2ram and set that up in the stock browsers debug settings, then wait for the next update which should be in a month or so.
After the update see if you are still wanting and then decided if you want to unlock. Remember this is a techie site and people here tend to advise people to take more aggressive actions, as they are speaking from an area that they are very comfortable, but I tend to advise people like yourself to be more conservative and patient.
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thanks. actually i am one of the more aggressive action types of people. i rooted my phone and installed a custom rom within an hour of getting it lol. I really want to unlock my tab because i love custom roms, however it is an expensive device and i have heard stories of the poor quality control asus has. If it weren't for that i would have unlocked it and installed cromi a few days after getting it.
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