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I came from the desire because of the internal storage capacity and battery life but the default rom is the ugliest thing I have seen in my life and for a first time droid owner they might think it is the best thing . the standard rom Isn't 2.2 but even the interface is bad so my question is has anybody flashed a HTC sense hased rom or alike to the mez yet and if so what guide did you use
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There is no HTC sense rom for the fascinate or mes
Just use launcherpro or adw. I doubt it is even possible to have an actual sense rom because sense is so ingrained in the core android... it probably wouldn't work.
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But it could be ported quite easily as they both have the same everything besides radios and displays so I guess its a cook your own rom with the mes displays and radios
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When I say same everythings I mean same storage and memory mappings even though the mes has 1.5gig rom and less ram than the desire
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Touchwiz is horrible, use Launcher Pro
Like i was saying out of the many Droid phones I have had most recently the desire HTC sense has been the best as I am not interested at all in something that consumes the weak ram on this phone it is highly inadequate and for a newer phone with such large display and shared memory you would think it would have at least double the ram. status Droid reports 2/3rds the resources the last phone had. So I do believe when I get the time I will venture into cooking Droid roms for myself. On a positive note of the mes the screen is awesome keyboard size is better but all of that can be edited in the image mappings of anything
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diabolical28 said:
But it could be ported quite easily as they both have the same everything besides radios and displays so I guess its a cook your own rom with the mes displays and radios
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Who's "they?" Considering you said you came from a HTC Desire, are you saying the Desire and Mesmerize have the "same everything?" In which case, you'd be no where close to correct.
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diabolical28 said:
I am not interested at all in something that consumes the weak ram on this phone it is highly inadequate and for a newer phone with such large display and shared memory you would think it would have at least double the ram
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Well your Highness, given your highly superior intellect and standards for which these phones must live up to, you'd think you'd be smart enough to check out the specs before you bought one.
Without starting a war as far as Droid is concerned all storeage memory and everything but the chipsets. Are the same most of which are supported internally by Droid with the exception of the radio/wifi and display interfaces. And as for your total useless post to bump,flame or raise your post count. You did nothing to add to the conversation. Lastly not Highness here but the sense roms have been a crowd pleaser and it is no secret that the mez has very little memory to run all the neato Samsung features
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diabolical28 said:
But it could be ported quite easily as they both have the same everything besides radios and displays so I guess its a cook your own rom with the mes displays and radios
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no it cant....
just forget it, put it out of your head.
it has been tried and tried and tried on so many other phones.
just forget it, if you want HTC sense you should have stayed with the desire or went with another carrier.
diabolical28 said:
Without starting a war as far as Droid is concerned all storeage memory and everything but the chipsets. Are the same most of which are supported internally by Droid with the exception of the radio/wifi and display interfaces.
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You are simply just wrong.
diabolical28 said:
the sense roms have been a crowd pleaser and it is no secret
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Says who? I came from the Hero which comes stock with Sense and the majority of the ROMs in the Hero community and the most popular ones were not Sense based. Sense is okay, nothing wrong with it, but it is far from anything spectacular.
AFAIK HTC Sense it tied to the hardware in each particular HTC phone. I am just speculating but I think they have some hardware markers in there that simply will not let sense work without it. Without hacking the entire framework AND the hardware you wont get it working..
If it could be done, then Froyo Sense Roms and Sense Apps would be available on EVERY other Android device apart from HTC's by now right here on this very forum. The fact that they aren't should tell you that its not possible or is way too much work to be deemed feasible..
Its as simple as that... oh and for the record, I hated Sense.. it was a bloated framework.. Sure its nice for new users as its easy (hence the point) but I'd take a clean ROM with Launcher Pro and Beautiful Widgets over it ANY day.
The only time I've seen sense on a phone that it didn't come with was when I installed android on the HTC touch and there was a hero rom installed and of course you can imagine it was quite sluggish but I haven't seen any other phones, at least not android native phones that were non HTC phones with a sense rom
v_lestat said:
no it cant....
just forget it, put it out of your head.
it has been tried and tried and tried on so many other phones.
just forget it, if you want HTC sense you should have stayed with the desire or went with another carrier.
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Well said v! And I agree that touchwiz isn't great but root the phone and use launcher pro as sage said. There are other launchers out there. I personally use adw launcher. Try those out see what you think they are highly customizable play around and I bet you get a setup you enjoy. Or if you have add like me just change it every other day
Sense is OK, what I think anyone who may have come over to the Mesmerize from the Desire might be missing is the general speed and responsiveness of the stock HTC Sense ROM. It feels a lot faster than the Mesmerize does stock. We have both and the stock FroYo ROM for the Sense is considerably more responsive than the FroYo ROM + Voodoo for the Mez. Hopefully we can see some speed improvements when Sammy and USCC get us a true stock FroYo ROM. Why they did what they did with the filesystem is beyond me, but it's annoying that it saps so much performance from the phone.
Cythrawl said:
AFAIK HTC Sense it tied to the hardware in each particular HTC phone. I am just speculating but I think they have some hardware markers in there that simply will not let sense work without it. Without hacking the entire framework AND the hardware you wont get it working..
If it could be done, then Froyo Sense Roms and Sense Apps would be available on EVERY other Android device apart from HTC's by now right here on this very forum. The fact that they aren't should tell you that its not possible or is way too much work to be deemed feasible..
Its as simple as that... oh and for the record, I hated Sense.. it was a bloated framework.. Sure its nice for new users as its easy (hence the point) but I'd take a clean ROM with Launcher Pro and Beautiful Widgets over it ANY day.
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Never even bothered to look up until now. Considering I had a awesome interface etc. But the search begins.
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Sense is OK, what I think anyone who may have come over to the Mesmerize from the Desire might be missing is the general speed and responsiveness of the stock HTC Sense ROM. It feels a lot faster than the Mesmerize does stock. We have both and the stock FroYo ROM for the Sense is considerably more responsive than the FroYo ROM + Voodoo for the Mez. Hopefully we can see some speed improvements when Sammy and USCC get us a true stock FroYo ROM. Why they did what they did with the filesystem is beyond me, but it's annoying that it saps so much performance from the phone.
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Of course it was fast but even the interface. if the desire had more internal storage better battery life i would have stayed with it. as for the battery life a simple flashing to another radio prob would have helped with the battery but as for the internal storage.... so small..
The new FroYo ROM seems to really help with battery life on the Desire. But yeah... The internal memory is what kept me away from it. I won't be buying another Samsung phone, that much is certain.
diabolical28 said:
Of course it was fast but even the interface. if the desire had more internal storage better battery life i would have stayed with it. as for the battery life a simple flashing to another radio prob would have helped with the battery but as for the internal storage.... so small..
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A simple flash to another radio? Ha. Yeah, I'm sure that would've worked out in a well bricked phone.
add144 said:
A simple flash to another radio? Ha. Yeah, I'm sure that would've worked out in a well bricked phone.
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Depends on the radio/phone combo that you are trying to use. I've flashed four different radios to my Mesmerize and have not had a problem. I don't recommend it, but it can be done if you know what you are doing.
I'm new to the inspire (just switched from Sprint and the Epic 4g) and was wondering if HTC/ATT was still doing development for the inspire or not? Can we expect any updates to the current version or are they pretty much done?
I know on the Epic they were still pushing ROM's occasionally.
Just wondering what the future might hold or if we are stuck with what we have (other then custom ROM's).
Thanks.
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jpeepers said:
I'm new to the inspire (just switched from Sprint and the Epic 4g) and was wondering if HTC/ATT was still doing development for the inspire or not? Can we expect any updates to the current version or are they pretty much done?
I know on the Epic they were still pushing ROM's occasionally.
Just wondering what the future might hold or if we are stuck with what we have (other then custom ROM's).
Thanks.
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Who cares, once your custom, you'll never want to go back :3
jpeepers said:
I'm new to the inspire (just switched from Sprint and the Epic 4g) and was wondering if HTC/ATT was still doing development for the inspire or not? Can we expect any updates to the current version or are they pretty much done?
I know on the Epic they were still pushing ROM's occasionally.
Just wondering what the future might hold or if we are stuck with what we have (other then custom ROM's).
Thanks.
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History would suggest that we've gotten everything we will get from ATT. HTC may continue to develop for the Ace, but it will most likely only be released for the DHD. (Desire HD)
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if AT&T is still selling this phone in 18 months then yes, per the alliance they made with Google, the Inspire will get Ice Cream Sandwich. At the Last Google I/O At&T was among the companies agreeing to this improved situation, vowing to bring their phones current.
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if AT&T is still selling this phone in 18 months then yes, per the alliance they made with Google, the Inspire will get Ice Cream Sandwich. At the Last Google I/O At&T was among the companies agreeing to this improved situation, vowing to bring their phones current.
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That's dang good info sir! You gotta link to feast teh eyes upon?
Yes, I do remember AT&T being part of the group that made that commitment, but knowing AT&T after being with em for 10 years, I wouldn't hold em to it.
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Joshp406 said:
Who cares, once your custom, you'll never want to go back :3
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+1
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here's linky http://www.slashgear.com/guidelines...-by-google-for-android-at-google-io-10151174/
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Who cares, once your custom, you'll never want to go back :3
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Yeah, I've been trying to find a custom that I like but so far it seems that they all have small "quirks" of some kind or another. Believe it or not my stock is running very very good so I'm reluctant to change.
Was just curious if they would release another base ROM for the inspire. It appears everything new is based from other phones.
Thanks for the info.
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jpeepers said:
Yeah, I've been trying to find a custom that I like but so far it seems that they all have small "quirks" of some kind or another. Believe it or not my stock is running very very good so I'm reluctant to change.
Was just curious if they would release another base ROM for the inspire. It appears everything new is based from other phones.
Thanks for the info.
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That is the norm with US based phones. They get maybe one release from the carrier and the rest are ports from the euro version of the phone as they are supported longer. We have seen the only update from att that we are going to get.
jpeepers said:
Yeah, I've been trying to find a custom that I like but so far it seems that they all have small "quirks" of some kind or another. Believe it or not my stock is running very very good so I'm reluctant to change.
Was just curious if they would release another base ROM for the inspire. It appears everything new is based from other phones.
Thanks for the info.
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If you like the stock feel you will absolutely love Virtuous Unity. Info in my sig.
anit77 said:
If you like the stock feel you will absolutely love Virtuous Unity. Info in my sig.
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VU is not even close to being stock.
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VU is not even close to being stock.
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No, there's nothing stock about the rom itself. But it does have a clean stock feel to it. That and it's the most stable I've tried for daily driver use.
anit77 said:
If you like the stock feel you will absolutely love Virtuous Unity. Info in my sig.
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+1 ... I loved my stock rom, then I changed to the VU and now I'm love VU.
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If you like the stock feel you will absolutely love Virtuous Unity. Info in my sig.
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Actually it wasn't about look and feel but performance. Right now my stock (rooted) is running really well believe it or not. Great battery life, great signal, good GPS etc. It seems that most custom ROMs I looked into (based off different phone base) had issues of some sort that people were complaining about. Battery, FC's, GPS etc.
In all honesty I don't really like Sense so I would'nt mind a ROM that didn't have it. Some things I like are, ASOP lockscreen, Battery percent in notification bar, Launcher othere than sense.
Right now I'm using a battery widget and widget locker to change my lock screen. Also using Zeam launcher insted of Sense.
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If you want aosp features on a stock Rom then check out static nonsense. It's stock without Rosie.
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jpeepers said:
Actually it wasn't about look and feel but performance. Right now my stock (rooted) is running really well believe it or not. Great battery life, great signal, good GPS etc. It seems that most custom ROMs I looked into (based off different phone base) had issues of some sort that people were complaining about. Battery, FC's, GPS etc.
In all honesty I don't really like Sense so I would'nt mind a ROM that didn't have it. Some things I like are, ASOP lockscreen, Battery percent in notification bar, Launcher othere than sense.
Right now I'm using a battery widget and widget locker to change my lock screen. Also using Zeam launcher insted of Sense.
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Gingerbeast
You piqued my interest, actually it was Zel. I started thinking about what is out there, actively being developed, based on US Inspire roms. I took a look over in the Dev section and all I could come up with is ClearDroid.
I think you can still get roms from Pirate based on the ATT gingerbread release and Juicy's TELUS DHD is supposed to be the same hardware as the Inspire, but his ROM is based on the TELUS release.
I have used ClearDroid gingerbread. It's a great ROM and ClearD and his team tenaciously develop and support. It's a little vanilla, compared to some DHD or port based roms, but is better than the ATT approved ROM in every way. It is faster, more stable, prettier and better supported. I always go back to it when I've had my fill of the eye candy. I won't tell you it's the best ROM out there, everyone has different tastes, and we've got great devs doing amazing things with other bases, but you may want to try it before completely writing off custom roms.
It's just my opinion, and worth about as much as that old Pentium 2 in my closet, but i'm throwing it out there anyway.
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jpeepers said:
Actually it wasn't about look and feel but performance. Right now my stock (rooted) is running really well believe it or not. Great battery life, great signal, good GPS etc. It seems that most custom ROMs I looked into (based off different phone base) had issues of some sort that people were complaining about. Battery, FC's, GPS etc.
In all honesty I don't really like Sense so I would'nt mind a ROM that didn't have it. Some things I like are, ASOP lockscreen, Battery percent in notification bar, Launcher othere than sense.
Right now I'm using a battery widget and widget locker to change my lock screen. Also using Zeam launcher insted of Sense.
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That's the beautiful thing about Android and this site. You can try a variety of different flavors and combinations and always go back to where you started. You'll never know if you like something or not if you don't try it. Just do a nandroid and test the waters.
The Sense 3 DHD leak is pretty nice and would be a great upgrade for the Inspire but, alas, we'll probably never see an actual Inspire based on this build because AT&T has the final say. AT&T is dragging HTC down like an anchor tied to a sack full of toasters.
ICS has also now been ported and boots up on the Droid 3 lol. Great work to Hashcode for getting it going!
http://hash-of-codes.blogspot.com/2011/11/you-got-your-ice-cream-on-my-droid-3-no.html
Well, it is a 3G phone, so there shouldn't be issues getting the radios working. I do find it amusing the type of the support these cheesy phones get though.
I don't want to get off topic, but I am curious what sort of CIQ and other potential spyware has been implemented in ICS. It seems a good opportunity for Google to embed CIQ deep within the framework, but alas, who knows.
The main two features of ICS that I think I would like, but don't need, is USB OTG and WiFi Direct.
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ICS has also now been ported and boots up on the Droid 3 lol. Great work to Hashcode for getting it going!
http://hash-of-codes.blogspot.com/2011/11/you-got-your-ice-cream-on-my-droid-3-no.html
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Smh we will never see it
I keep hearing we won't have ics because we have a 4g phone but the bionic just got ics port... Maybe we still have hope?
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I keep hearing we won't have ics because we have a 4g phone but the bionic just got ics port... Maybe we still have hope?
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Very good point!!!!
I'm one person, would you rather have me work on getting a good ROM out based on stock TW, or go to work on what may never be a fully functional AOSP build? If you want it so bad, no one here is going to stop you from taking up the work on your own...
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I'm one person, would you rather have me work on getting a good ROM out based on stock TW, or go to work on what may never be a fully functional AOSP build? If you want it so bad, no one here is going to stop you from taking up the work on your own...
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Don't do it because of us! Do what you enjoy doing and share with us because your proud of your work.
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imnuts said:
I'm one person, would you rather have me work on getting a good ROM out based on stock TW, or go to work on what may never be a fully functional AOSP build? If you want it so bad, no one here is going to stop you from taking up the work on your own...
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You already know. Yes, we are eager for ICS/CM7.1/CM7.2/CM9...and everything under the sun that a working RIL would enable us. But, having said that, I think the vast majority of us place FUNCTION in front of FEATURES.
We, Android enthusists with the skills to flash but not actually dev, are like children and will never be satisfied. We need a healthy meal, but are going to whine to have candy for dinner every night. As a dev, you're more similar to our parent in this metaphor... Don't take it personally when we metaphorically say we hate you--we don't. We love you. We need your help to eat at all, so make sure it's the best meal you can provide.
Besides, if the RIL never comes, who bought this phone for Ice Cream Sandwich anyway? I bought this phone for 4G.
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I'm one person, would you rather have me work on getting a good ROM out based on stock TW, or go to work on what may never be a fully functional AOSP build? If you want it so bad, no one here is going to stop you from taking up the work on your own...
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imnuts, please don't take my post or the title the wrong way. I am in now way at all saying anything bad about what you do for this phone. Your work is very highly regarded in my book. I was just pointing out how crazy it is with all these ICS ports coming out now. I can promise you that I am grateful for all the work you do for us.
If you want an AOSP ROM, you shouldn't buy a Samsung phone.
Twice bitten for me. Neither of my Samsung phones has had an AOSP ROM.
As a self-proclaimed nube, I am generally curious what advantages we would see on AOSP anyways.
Is there some super-spiffy amazing bad-ass feature that I don't know about?
Humble 5.0 is great for me. I will try Infinity if/when its ready.
ICS in particular has WiFi Direct and USB OTG as I mentioned above, which I assume that CM7 wouldn't enable.
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As a self-proclaimed nube, I am generally curious what advantages we would see on AOSP anyways.
Is there some super-spiffy amazing bad-ass feature that I don't know about?
Humble 5.0 is great for me. I will try Infinity if/when its ready.
ICS in particular has WiFi Direct and USB OTG as I mentioned above, which I assume that CM7 wouldn't enable.
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AOSP tends to offer a faster experience, and better battery life. It does this by not having any carrier or OEM bloat anywhere. There is a lot of stuff added on to the stock ROM that cannot be removed. To give you an idea, a heavily debloated TW ROM for the Fascinate is usually ~160MB, give or take, where as a stock AOSP ROM is <100MB for the same Android version, GB in this case. That would mean that even the best debloated/cleaned up TouchWiz ROM is still going to have about 40% more useless junk in it than a stock AOSP ROM, and that junk slows down the system and drains the battery.
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I keep hearing we won't have ics because we have a 4g phone but the bionic just got ics port... Maybe we still have hope?
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Bionic got ICS support because Kejar has a Bionic probably. I'm just glad we are on the eve of GB finally and that Imnuts and Imoseyon can get to business with some code.
Over the years around computers I've learned one thing, the next OS is always easier to use, easier to program in and what not, but it is always more complex and requires more hardware, more RAM and shortly after release the end user experience isn't all that much better than it was 6 months earlier. You should see DOS 5 run on a quad core monster processor - wow!
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Bionic got ICS support because Kejar has a Bionic probably. I'm just glad we are on the eve of GB finally and that Imnuts and Imoseyon can get to business with some code.
Over the years around computers I've learned one thing, the next OS is always easier to use, easier to program in and what not, but it is always more complex and requires more hardware, more RAM and shortly after release the end user experience isn't all that much better than it was 6 months earlier. You should see DOS 5 run on a quad core monster processor - wow!
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I agree with what you're saying mostly, but your post almost sounds like you expect Imnuts and Imoseyon to develop and post their work when they have zero obligation to develop and/or share any of their work in any way. If I wasn't so hard-pressed for cash, I would donate more to the devs. I will when I am able though.
One should also remember the short life cycle of smartphones. I am already looking forward to the Galaxy S III mostly for the display- SAMOLED III.
Also, I would like to be able to watch 480p Flash content in the browser without having to overclock, hopefully 720p Flash in the browser with the GS3.
Of course I would like my Charge to blaze along at its maximum potential, but there is a thin line between spending and wasting time on dated hardware. If you want the the best experience on a device, then it would be best to buy older hardware that it well-developed, like the Fascinate. I am willing to sacrifice for the perks of the Charge, like the SAMOLED+ display and 4G.
Hey guys!, I recently purchased an Atrix2, at the moment I can't decide if I'm more worried or excited (locked bootloader and all), lets just say I'm glad my investment wasn't too big. I'm coming from a Desire Z which was totally and completely hacked way before I bought one (Ended up owning 3 of them, 1 of which didn't have warranty... Ended up being a big investment, long story), so hopefully stock isn't too bad . I have some questions tho and if anyone would be willing to answer I'd be grateful, I've been lurking around here for a few days, if these questions have already been asked I apologize.
When my Atrix2 arrives what should I do with it, root it and install a 2.3.x rom, leave it stock, not root it, install an ICS leak?
How does overclocking work, I'd like to get it to 1.2ghz (GS2 speed), are we able to do that on a locked bootloader?
I know there's been no official word, but do you think the Atrix2 will get JellyBean? When?
How close are we to cracking that bootloader? I've been reading the threads and they're kinda hard to follow, there seems to be massive news on the horizon and everything looking good but then another thread says the complete opposite, how close are we to cracking that sucker open, and in your opinion do you think Moto will unlock the Atrix2 with their web unlock tool that voids the warranty?
I noticed there are 2 hardware versions (ME and MB I think), is everything compatible with each other or do I have to specifically make sure each rom and hack is for my version?
From long term owners how do you like the phone?
From people using ICS how is it? Compared to the AOSP and AOKP roms for other devices, is it..... bearable so to speak ?.
How many CM7/AOSP like mods can we have, I really hate using phones without the widgets in the pulldown status bar.
Coming from a very thick 3.7" 512mb ram 800mhz CPU (Tho capable of running JellyBean fairly well, and being QWERTY to be fair), I think the leap to 4.3" 1gb ram and 1.2ghz dual core will be very nice. The locked bootloader is a big let down but I hope the geniuses that are the Android Dev community come up with some wonderful hack and we're all running CM10 very soon, or at least that the ICS build is good enough and we can get some decent mods.
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When my Atrix2 arrives what should I do with it, root it and install a 2.3.x rom, leave it stock, not root it, install an ICS leak?
How does overclocking work, I'd like to get it to 1.2ghz (GS2 speed), are we able to do that on a locked bootloader?
I know there's been no official word, but do you think the Atrix2 will get JellyBean? When?
How close are we to cracking that bootloader? I've been reading the threads and they're kinda hard to follow, there seems to be massive news on the horizon and everything looking good but then another thread says the complete opposite, how close are we to cracking that sucker open, and in your opinion do you think Moto will unlock the Atrix2 with their web unlock tool that voids the warranty?
I noticed there are 2 hardware versions (ME and MB I think), is everything compatible with each other or do I have to specifically make sure each rom and hack is for my version?
From long term owners how do you like the phone?
From people using ICS how is it? Compared to the AOSP and AOKP roms for other devices, is it..... bearable so to speak ?.
How many CM7/AOSP like mods can we have, I really hate using phones without the widgets in the pulldown status bar.
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When my Atrix2 arrives what should I do with it, root it and install a 2.3.x rom, leave it stock, not root it, install an ICS leak?
A) This is entirely your preference.
How does overclocking work, I'd like to get it to 1.2ghz (GS2 speed), are we able to do that on a locked bootloader?
A) See my guides in my signature -for Overclocking
I know there's been no official word, but do you think the Atrix2 will get JellyBean? When?
A) I seriously doubt it. We're one of the last to receive ICS, and still waiting for the official OTA to roll out in the US.
How close are we to cracking that bootloader? I've been reading the threads and they're kinda hard to follow, there seems to be massive news on the horizon and everything looking good but then another thread says the complete opposite, how close are we to cracking that sucker open, and in your opinion do you think Moto will unlock the Atrix2 with their web unlock tool that voids the warranty?
A) The developers have been working on this for almost a year, doesn't look promising at this point, but as soon as some advances are made, you'll read about them here. No, Moto will likely NOT add the A2 to the devices list for unlocking.
I noticed there are 2 hardware versions (ME and MB I think), is everything compatible with each other or do I have to specifically make sure each rom and hack is for my version?
A) The MB865 is intended for use on AT&T within the USA, while the ME865 has a different radio, sound device, WIFI chipset, and a few other hardware differences. It is basically a different device, with "close enough" hardware. I would not try using things from one for the other though, because even the ME865 has 3 different versions, with some small differences in hardware, but you also really need to watch for firmware compatibility.
From long term owners how do you like the phone?
A) My opinion is its decent, we have amazing devs, and they've done so much for this device.
From people using ICS how is it?
A) ICS completely changes the phone, in every way that's good.
Compared to the AOSP and AOKP roms for other devices, is it..... bearable so to speak ?.
A) They are way better than stock Motorubbish ROM.
How many CM7/AOSP like mods can we have, I really hate using phones without the widgets in the pulldown status bar?
A) Most every custom ROM (if not all) available for the A2 has drop down toggles.
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Thanks for your reply. Another question. Are there De blurred roms? I imagine blur wouldn't run as horrible as sense ran on my g2 but options are nice
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Thanks for your reply. Another question. Are there De blurred roms? I imagine blur wouldn't run as horrible as sense ran on my g2 but options are nice
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There's a couple of ROMs that still keep in tact some or most of the Blur apps and UI, but most are "de-blurred". One of my favorites was Lithium ROM and SCv6, but that's all based on personal preferences. Some are odexed, others de-odexed. Just browse through the development section and look at each of the ROM's threads, they'll all have screenshots, features, and installation instructions. Some are flash able zips, others are CWM backup images. Everything you'll need to know in deciding on a ROM is in the dev section. Nothing wrong with flashing and trying each of them out, until you find one you really like...
Edit: I just looked, and seems like there's about four ROMs that will require the user to be on the leaked ICS version before flashing there's still several great ROMs for GB though!
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As long as it's not the ICS OTA because you can't go back to GB with that (yet?). I'm learning . Been 6 days and my phone hasn't been shipped, but hopefully there's some cool new stuff when it does get here.
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As long as it's not the ICS OTA because you can't go back to GB with that (yet?). I'm learning . Been 6 days and my phone hasn't been shipped, but hopefully there's some cool new stuff when it does get here.
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The official ICS OTA update will not allow you the ability to flash back to GB, at least not yet. With the "leaked" ICS, you can. But, trying with any of the newer leaked updates for ICS will turn your new phone into a new soft brick...
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The official ICS OTA update will not allow you the ability to flash back to GB, at least not yet. With the "leaked" ICS, you can. But, trying with any of the newer leaked updates for ICS will turn your new phone into a new soft brick...
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Gotcha. All the roms say you need to already be on the leak to use them which is kinda confusing, do I install this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1683893
and then this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1648421
And then root?
JDogg1329 said:
Gotcha. All the roms say you need to already be on the leak to use them which is kinda confusing, do I install this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1683893
and then this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1648421
And then root?
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I believe there's only two ROMs that are built off the leaked ICS version (SCv7 and Lunar Eclipse, though there may be more- I haven't clicked the through the development section much lately) but just wait until you get your phone, and see what version it is. Likely it will be SEARET, but I'm not certain.
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Courier company screwed up and I have to wait another few days. Hopefully get it before Friday next week. First world problems.
JDogg1329 said:
Courier company screwed up and I have to wait another few days. Hopefully get it before Friday next week. First world problems.
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Worth the waiting :good:
Chichoman said:
Worth the waiting :good:
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One more and you've earned your ticket to the development section...
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1-) Sick of GB and Im not a huge Sence fan, although I can live with it if needed... Is JB possible? Working 100%?
2-) HBOOT 1.45.0013, S-ON, & I don't really feel like doing any wiretrick, although I will if needed, is this still the best way to go?
edit #1: CM9 installed! (flashed boot.img with fastboot), back button doesnt work on front of phone.. researching..
Wipe dalvik, wipe cache then flash Gapps. That's fixed it in several instances.
Or use jellybam or pacman
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Whoareyou said:
Or use jellybam or pacman
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Eh he wants ICS not JellyBean. I may go on a scattered search to see if either ROM has an ICS counterpart though
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strapped365 said:
Eh he wants ICS not JellyBean. I may go on a scattered search to see if either ROM has an ICS counterpart though
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Trying JellyBAM. Camera crashes the phone when flash goes off (although flashlight works fine). My corporate mail/calendar account also can't access the right security settings, so I'm crippled for work purposes. If you use these features, consider something other than JellyBAM.
Tried PACman but switched. Don't recall why, now. Maybe I'll try it again. . . .
greowulf said:
Trying JellyBAM. Camera crashes the phone when flash goes off (although flashlight works fine). My corporate mail/calendar account also can't access the right security settings, so I'm crippled for work purposes. If you use these features, consider something other than JellyBAM.
Tried PACman but switched. Don't recall why, now. Maybe I'll try it again. . . .
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PACman and JellyBAM have the same base and kernel so you will have the same issues connecting to work email.
I've seen other users post this about the camera flash crashing things, but I was never able to recreate it. So I just summed it up to an improper wipe/flash. No one has offered any kind of logs either to go along with said crashes, but that's not saying it will help because again we can't recreate these issues during testing.
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sheybklyn said:
1-) Sick of GB and Im not a huge Sence fan, although I can live with it if needed... Is JB possible? Working 100%?
2-) HBOOT 1.45.0013, S-ON, & I don't really feel like doing any wiretrick, although I will if needed, is this still the best way to go?
edit #1: CM9 installed! (flashed boot.img with fastboot), back button doesnt work on front of phone.. researching..
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MT4GS ICS ROM that works 100%? It doesn't exist.
Scverhagen's CM9.1 releases have far fewer issues in my opinion than the MyTouch Stock gingerbread 2.3.4. I'm still running r7.
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Scverhagen's CM9.1 releases have far fewer issues in my opinion than the MyTouch Stock gingerbread 2.3.4. I'm still running r7.
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Inaccurate exaggeration is nobody's friend. It's a nice ROM, sure, but saying it has less issues than stock? You just lost any further credibility.
Happens to be my opinion based on my own personal experience however. And will remain so.
I'm kinda like you david, I consider a ROM 100% when it runs 100% of the things I have to have or need. I realize it can't be like that for everyone but for those that it is, it allows a person to enjoy WAY more ROMs. JMO.....
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I'm kinda like you david, I consider a ROM 100% when it runs 100% of the things I have to have or need. I realize it can't be like that for everyone but for those that it is, it allows a person to enjoy WAY more ROMs. JMO.....
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But when I read reviews of a ROM, maybe I'm wanting to try it but trying to determine what things other people are encountering. Someone who says, "This ROM is perfect! Everything works!" but then I find out that, no, everything doesn't work and even they later admit that "some things aren't working but I can overlook that", well, that totally invalidates the entire thread. How am I to trust anything that person writes about anything else? Yes, we have subjective opinions about ROMs, but it does nobody any favor to exaggerate the abilities of a ROM. If you tell me a ROM is perfect and "better than stock", then I have some extra high expectations.
I understand completely. But there is more to a declaration of perfection than the statement itself. It would depend on who makes it and their knowledge of different ROMs but to me it just means it's damn close. I usually find out the details when I run it myself. That's when I'm reminded that nothing is perfect. Even the original developers don't distribute perfection and there is a HUGE well paid team of them.
I can appreciate anyone's expectations of a shared original ROM or a port to be one of perfection but that usually means the person with those expectations just doesn't realize all that's involved. People have to remember that this is more a personally fulfilling "hobby" than their vocation.
My biggest frustration is people wanting something that works 100%. Compared to what? Stock? Half the time the "Stock" ROMs have their own issues. That's why we root and ROM, to improve the experience over Stock.
What features do you want? What's your opinion of 100%? Sense? AOSP?
Hell, even the title of the thread isn't 100% accurate. There isn't an official ICS ROM, so there can't be a debloated version. And the word "Best" implies that there are at least 2 ICS Roms that work 100%....
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(Crap, I obviously need more sleep over the weekends....)
Weekends are too short ya know.
Fuzi0719 said:
MT4GS ICS ROM that works 100%? It doesn't exist.
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Exactly This.
In even the best ICS "closest to what factory would be" ROM I've found (Virtuous Primadonna), 1080p recording, WiFi calling, and tethering were borked. To me 100% means 100% as in all options the phone came with work and not having options taken away.
MikTouch is still the best I've found. Once the Xperia ZL drop for purchase I'm bailing on my MT4GS. I absolutely love this phone, but I hate HTC with a burning of a thousand suns for bailing on this phone which was supposed to be a flagship device.
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Exactly This.
In even the best ICS "closest to what factory would be" ROM I've found (Virtuous Primadonna), 1080p recording, WiFi calling, and tethering were borked. To me 100% means 100% as in all options the phone came with work and not having options taken away.
MikTouch is still the best I've found. Once the Xperia ZL drop for purchase I'm bailing on my MT4GS. I absolutely love this phone, but I hate HTC with a burning of a thousand suns for bailing on this phone which was supposed to be a flagship device.
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wifi calling works on ALL ics roms. there is a workaround for tethering involving barnacle and open garden. so that leaves 1080p recording
mattlowry said:
wifi calling works on ALL ics roms.
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News to me. Last I read a week ago when I looked into it T-Mobs app still wasn't working correctly
WangChung81 said:
News to me. Last I read a week ago when I looked into it T-Mobs app still wasn't working correctly
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Did you flash the wifi calling patch and push gan optimizer.apk to system apps?
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