[Q] Really need to ask these questions before I go further - HTC One S

Okay, i'm new to the whole rooting thing and I think I get the basic concept and all of that, but is it beneficial for me?
- Right now i'm running Nova launcher and have it set up perfect for me. No problem with speed or any of that, so not an issue there,
- I have windows 8 so does this make the process of rooting any different? I hear it does in some cases and I don't want to be screwed if I get stuck
- The only reason I am even thinking about rooting is to just get a dang update on my phone. I'm tired of waiting for updates I feel will never come.
- I would need a ROM that I could count on without checking for updates religiously.
- Is rooting something for me? Or should I stick with Nova seeing that I get a satisfying experience with it. (I also hear a lot of ROM's ship with Nova anyway.)
- Is there any step by step tutorials with windows 8 complete with all of the files I will need? (Excluding ROM's of course. I would get those on my own)

If you haven't fully researched rooting or completely understand it I don't recommend it. Also, what's so bad about ics that makes you think jb will blow it away?
Don't take offense as that's not my intention. There are so many posts about people soft bricking their phone or worse mainly because they don't fully understand it or to impatient to wait. The only real reason I rooted was to remove bloatware. I'm still on 4.0.4 and not complaining a smidge
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Spastic909 said:
If you haven't fully researched rooting or completely understand it I don't recommend it. Also, what's so bad about ics that makes you think jb will blow it away?
Don't take offense as that's not my intention. There are so many posts about people soft bricking their phone or worse mainly because they don't fully understand it or to impatient to wait. The only real reason I rooted was to remove bloatware. I'm still on 4.0.4 and not complaining a smidge
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No offence taken at all. I just like the stock android so much which is why I wish I could get my hands on a nexus device, but unfortunately being a college student, I take what I can get.
And iv'e researched it as much as I could im just still confused with a couple things such as the Drivers some people have told me I need to get etc etc. I've watched flows videos over and over and I get HOW to do it, but was there anything done before in any way?

If you dig your setup with nova launcher id suggest sticking with that and wait till official ota. However if u still want to root, make sure its not a USB 3.0 connection as I've seen from another post doesn't seem to work.
Rooting is pretty easy as long as you don't skip steps. Unlock bootloader, flash recovery, flash superuser, flash Rom after wiping everything but not before you make a nandroid backup of stock Rom and save it to storage externally, flash boot.img located within zip after Rom flash
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By the sound of it, you have no need for root. You are happy with your current setup and doesnt appear to be an 'advanced user' who messes around in the system all day.
My suggestion is to read up what root actually does, then decide if its something you need/want.
By the sound of your first post - no, you dont need root.

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If you are happy running Nova launcher on a sense kernel than just wait for ota.
By the way... Nova being used by a rom is no different than what you are doing now.
Now if you want the Nexus experience then by all means root. CyanogenMod is awesome on the One S and has everything working fine. I am using it and have the latest Android 4.2.2. CM gives us updates almost as quickly as the Nexus gets.
To the other poster mentioning why would one need jellybean.
Jellybean is on a whole new level compared to ICS. Much faster and smoother. Until you try it you will not understand how ICS is just not as good. Plus the Google Now and the rest of Google services are amazing on JB.
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I'm very familiar with jb for your information...
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Jellybean is on a whole new level compared to ICS. Much faster and smoother. Until you try it you will not understand how ICS is just not as good. Plus the Google Now and the rest of Google services are amazing on JB.
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If you are comparing stock ICS with stock JB, JB is terrible compared to ICS. AOSP JB is better than ICS though, on that I can agree.

I was referring to AOSP JB. I gave up on Sense a long time ago. The only thing I miss about sense kernel is the loudness of Beats Audio. There are sound mods available but none are as loud as Beats on stock.
I did try the EU update version of JB and I felt it was much smoother than ICS. Battery life was the negative on stock JB.
CM 10.1 has been incredible. CM will help me hold on to this phone a little longer until I decide between the One, rumored Moto X, or next Nexus.
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Went from a doer to a reader....

I don't know about anybody else, but when I had my captivate, I would frequent these boards and download just about any ROM I could get my hands on for the quest for a better phone.
Since getting the Inspire a week ago, it seems as though now I frequent the forums just to read. I have no ambition to have anything but the stock ROM because it is just that pleasant to use.
In fact, I really don't even think I want to root.....not really much of a need anymore other that Titanium backup and easy sideloading.
This is the first smartphone I have been truly pleased with out of the box.
If I could get the wifi hotspot to work consistently I think I would skip the root too. I am coming from a bone stock Nexus one. I really like vanilla android, but Sense does add a nice touch.
bmolloy said:
If I could get the wifi hotspot to work consistently I think I would skip the root too. I am coming from a bone stock Nexus one. I really like vanilla android, but Sense does add a nice touch.
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have you tried this thread?
bigdessert said:
I don't know about anybody else, but when I had my captivate, I would frequent these boards and download just about any ROM I could get my hands on for the quest for a better phone. My thoughts exactly. Well said.
Since getting the Inspire a week ago, it seems as though now I frequent the forums just to read. I have no ambition to have anything but the stock ROM because it is just that pleasant to use.
In fact, I really don't even think I want to root.....not really much of a need anymore other that Titanium backup and easy sideloading.
This is the first smartphone I have been truly pleased with out of the box.
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This phone is amazing stock.... I just caved to my insatiable flashing addiction. it's relieving having a phone that just works. And the unibody metal is awesome
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have you tried this thread?
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Ya What he said! Just rember to reboot everytime you change your apn. it works great and from the testing i have done and speaking with ATT they cant tell the difference..
Agreed, but
I loved this phone out of the box, but i have to tinker. It is a problem i have. I rooted and have tried just about every ROM out there. Nothing is quite as good as stock, but there are some really good ones out.
If you are happy with your phone, i say leave it. But if you want to root, this phone should be great as the devs start working with source and cooking up great ROMS and kernels.
The only tinkering I want to do now is theming. I will patiently wait for someone to deodex the stock Rom.
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What has been your experience with rooting your Sensation?

I've reviewed some of the ROM comments and browsed around on the net but can't seem to come to a conclusion on if I should root my device or not. I had a T-mobile G2 before and it was rooted. I loved testing out other roms and finding ones that works best as well as obviously the boosts in speeds.
The Sensation to me feels more complete and aside from some useless apps and the occasional glitchy things that happen with it I'm pretty satisfied overall.
Can anyone provide some positive user experiences with rooting their devices or if some of the roms correct some of the known issues with the Sensation reliable without causing other issues lol?
I'm really up in the air about this and can't decide, what do you guys think?
I rooted my sensation just Cos I did the same to my old x10 mini, I found rooting it was easy following the guide on here and flashing new roms is easy too, all I can suggest is that you read the instructions, try different roms to see which one works for you and don't forget that rooting voids your warranty
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When flashing custom roms are you losing all installed apps each time and finding you need to restore via titanium? I ask because I've seen threads say you do and don't lose your installed apps and data.
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johnny0313x said:
I've reviewed some of the ROM comments and browsed around on the net but can't seem to come to a conclusion on if I should root my device or not. I had a T-mobile G2 before and it was rooted. I loved testing out other roms and finding ones that works best as well as obviously the boosts in speeds.
The Sensation to me feels more complete and aside from some useless apps and the occasional glitchy things that happen with it I'm pretty satisfied overall.
Can anyone provide some positive user experiences with rooting their devices or if some of the roms correct some of the known issues with the Sensation reliable without causing other issues lol?
I'm really up in the air about this and can't decide, what do you guys think?
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Heyya,
I'm pretty new here and my experience with android devices was 0 up to three weeks ago when i decided to buy the sensation. I then stumbled upon XDA dev forum and now i'm hooked .
I decided to root and flash a custom rom three days after getting the phone... as far as eye candy goes Sense is brilliant but the functionality is 0.
The whole process of installing clockwork, perm rooting and flashing a custom rom took exactly twenty minutes and was no hassle at all.
At the moment i run P3d Neon-No Sense and the phone is a whole lot better. Battery life is double, RAM consumption is 1/2 and overall the performance is great.
So... my advice... root and flash away!
Thanks jeryko that's the kinda thing I was looking to hear. The sensations touch screen is the only reason I'm Leary about voiding the warrenty with rooting. If you unroot the device can they still tell?
I love sense I think it integrates things nicely and visually (with the exception of a few minor things) and gives a way more polished premium feel to devices. However as stated above it does bog down the phone a bit...even with the dual core. HTC really should have added 1gb of ram I think. Overall though my phones not slow just sometimes a little stutter here and there.
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ive rooted my sensation, well i at least i did / was rooted before the update came out. to be honest i haven't seen any reason to reroot. i still have a unlocked boot loader but the urge to root and flash roms isnt really there for me yet. this is probably because i am happy with sense 3.0 and the phone doesnt lag for me at all after the latest update. the only real thing that will probably get me to root again is when a good aosp rom releases or CM7. i really miss having then bluetooth capabilities of a stock aosp rom
No problem. Well... the sensation has it's drawbacks but price/quality it's definitely worth the money.
About the warranty issue... can't really tell you... I've read on the forum that you can Switch back to stock rom and kernel and S-ON again but the procedure (for S-ON) is a bit risky and frankly i have no clue if after you go through all that there's any way of telling that the phone has been tampered with... you'll have to ask the older and wiser folks around here for a knowledgeable answer.
Root it, stop delaying the inevitable.
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occasional glitchy things that happen with it
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And that's why I don't regret going s-off and flashing custom ROMs. Root just comes with the territory.
Funny thing, I went custom on my Sensation within the first week while I left my wife's stock. Fast forward three weeks later, I was pretty satisfied with the speed and stability on my phone. I pick up my wife's phone and unlock it to surf the net. First thing that happens? Random restart and back to the HTC splash screen. Really?? I'd totally forgotten about the random restarts and choppy home screen scrolling. Ended up s-offing that thing and flashing a custom ROM that same night. She hasn't complained about her phone since.
I'm so tempted....you guys are evil lol Seriously though the only thing holding me back is the warrenty being voided. I didn't care so much with my G2(that thing was the most reliable phone ever) but the sensation is still new and I'm skeptical about how long the hardware will keep up and all. My biggest complaint would be the volume on some things ...everything else works great though except an occasional lack of response until I lock and unlock the phone...which is rare.
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The ONLY reason I rooted was to remove the apps I don't want to use. I'm running my own ROM which is a basic version of 1.45.401.2 with all the crap I don't want removed. If it didn't have the **** on the ROM in the first place I probably wouldn't have bothered to root it
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The ONLY reason I rooted was to remove the apps I don't want to use. I'm running my own ROM which is a basic version of 1.45.401.2 with all the crap I don't want removed. If it didn't have the **** on the ROM in the first place I probably wouldn't have bothered to root it
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Agreed....
I unlocked the bootloader as soon as I could and started loading custom ROMs. I've been running the P3D ROM (Sense version) for a few weeks now, and it's doubled my battery life plus it's faster. My brother has his Sensation still S-ON stock (latest OTA update) and we compared it side by side and we both agreed mine is noticeably faster. I also like the blue neon theme with that ROM.
Even that particular ROM aside, I've had generally better battery life with anything other than the stock ROM. That alone is enough reason to do it IMO.
Link to P3D ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1206746
Ok I know that I am a noob to rooting and installing roms. Currently I am on my second one Android Revolution HD™ 3.0.3. Rooting it was the best thing I've done. i wish I would have gotten the balls to root years ago!
Hi, I know I asked earlier but when you flash a new Rom do you lose all your apps and data? I see many people flashing new roms weekly and daily and am just wondering how you deal with all your apps and data. I can't imagine everyone starting from scratch each time. I know titanium can do a batch restore, is that what everyone does? (Sorry for my noobish behavior in this thread.)
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I am very happy with my rooted Sensation. My previous phone was a rooted Nexus One. I can say that rooting is a great way of customizing your phone to your liking.
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Hi, I know I asked earlier but when you flash a new Rom do you lose all your apps and data? I see many people flashing new roms weekly and daily and am just wondering how you deal with all your apps and data. I can't imagine everyone starting from scratch each time. I know titanium can do a batch restore, is that what everyone does? (Sorry for my noobish behavior in this thread.)
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Titanium batch, best app purchase for the crack flasher. I timed myself, 30 mins tops to go from one rom to another
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+1 for Titanium batch! A must for all heavy Flashers
We should have root access out of the box. Too much fun stuff, but impossible to find a ROM perfect for you. Your going to tweak something eventually
just got my sensation 4g still in box..first thing on to do list is "root it and boot it"
currently running HTC HD2 with ndt miui rom...love it but got to have that 4g

[Q] What should I do with my Atrix2 when it arrives?

Hey guys!, I recently purchased an Atrix2, at the moment I can't decide if I'm more worried or excited (locked bootloader and all), lets just say I'm glad my investment wasn't too big. I'm coming from a Desire Z which was totally and completely hacked way before I bought one (Ended up owning 3 of them, 1 of which didn't have warranty... Ended up being a big investment, long story), so hopefully stock isn't too bad . I have some questions tho and if anyone would be willing to answer I'd be grateful, I've been lurking around here for a few days, if these questions have already been asked I apologize.
When my Atrix2 arrives what should I do with it, root it and install a 2.3.x rom, leave it stock, not root it, install an ICS leak?
How does overclocking work, I'd like to get it to 1.2ghz (GS2 speed), are we able to do that on a locked bootloader?
I know there's been no official word, but do you think the Atrix2 will get JellyBean? When?
How close are we to cracking that bootloader? I've been reading the threads and they're kinda hard to follow, there seems to be massive news on the horizon and everything looking good but then another thread says the complete opposite, how close are we to cracking that sucker open, and in your opinion do you think Moto will unlock the Atrix2 with their web unlock tool that voids the warranty?
I noticed there are 2 hardware versions (ME and MB I think), is everything compatible with each other or do I have to specifically make sure each rom and hack is for my version?
From long term owners how do you like the phone?
From people using ICS how is it? Compared to the AOSP and AOKP roms for other devices, is it..... bearable so to speak ?.
How many CM7/AOSP like mods can we have, I really hate using phones without the widgets in the pulldown status bar.
Coming from a very thick 3.7" 512mb ram 800mhz CPU (Tho capable of running JellyBean fairly well, and being QWERTY to be fair), I think the leap to 4.3" 1gb ram and 1.2ghz dual core will be very nice. The locked bootloader is a big let down but I hope the geniuses that are the Android Dev community come up with some wonderful hack and we're all running CM10 very soon, or at least that the ICS build is good enough and we can get some decent mods.
JDogg1329 said:
When my Atrix2 arrives what should I do with it, root it and install a 2.3.x rom, leave it stock, not root it, install an ICS leak?
How does overclocking work, I'd like to get it to 1.2ghz (GS2 speed), are we able to do that on a locked bootloader?
I know there's been no official word, but do you think the Atrix2 will get JellyBean? When?
How close are we to cracking that bootloader? I've been reading the threads and they're kinda hard to follow, there seems to be massive news on the horizon and everything looking good but then another thread says the complete opposite, how close are we to cracking that sucker open, and in your opinion do you think Moto will unlock the Atrix2 with their web unlock tool that voids the warranty?
I noticed there are 2 hardware versions (ME and MB I think), is everything compatible with each other or do I have to specifically make sure each rom and hack is for my version?
From long term owners how do you like the phone?
From people using ICS how is it? Compared to the AOSP and AOKP roms for other devices, is it..... bearable so to speak ?.
How many CM7/AOSP like mods can we have, I really hate using phones without the widgets in the pulldown status bar.
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When my Atrix2 arrives what should I do with it, root it and install a 2.3.x rom, leave it stock, not root it, install an ICS leak?
A) This is entirely your preference.
How does overclocking work, I'd like to get it to 1.2ghz (GS2 speed), are we able to do that on a locked bootloader?
A) See my guides in my signature -for Overclocking
I know there's been no official word, but do you think the Atrix2 will get JellyBean? When?
A) I seriously doubt it. We're one of the last to receive ICS, and still waiting for the official OTA to roll out in the US.
How close are we to cracking that bootloader? I've been reading the threads and they're kinda hard to follow, there seems to be massive news on the horizon and everything looking good but then another thread says the complete opposite, how close are we to cracking that sucker open, and in your opinion do you think Moto will unlock the Atrix2 with their web unlock tool that voids the warranty?
A) The developers have been working on this for almost a year, doesn't look promising at this point, but as soon as some advances are made, you'll read about them here. No, Moto will likely NOT add the A2 to the devices list for unlocking.
I noticed there are 2 hardware versions (ME and MB I think), is everything compatible with each other or do I have to specifically make sure each rom and hack is for my version?
A) The MB865 is intended for use on AT&T within the USA, while the ME865 has a different radio, sound device, WIFI chipset, and a few other hardware differences. It is basically a different device, with "close enough" hardware. I would not try using things from one for the other though, because even the ME865 has 3 different versions, with some small differences in hardware, but you also really need to watch for firmware compatibility.
From long term owners how do you like the phone?
A) My opinion is its decent, we have amazing devs, and they've done so much for this device.
From people using ICS how is it?
A) ICS completely changes the phone, in every way that's good.
Compared to the AOSP and AOKP roms for other devices, is it..... bearable so to speak ?.
A) They are way better than stock Motorubbish ROM.
How many CM7/AOSP like mods can we have, I really hate using phones without the widgets in the pulldown status bar?
A) Most every custom ROM (if not all) available for the A2 has drop down toggles.
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Thanks for your reply. Another question. Are there De blurred roms? I imagine blur wouldn't run as horrible as sense ran on my g2 but options are nice
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JDogg1329 said:
Thanks for your reply. Another question. Are there De blurred roms? I imagine blur wouldn't run as horrible as sense ran on my g2 but options are nice
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There's a couple of ROMs that still keep in tact some or most of the Blur apps and UI, but most are "de-blurred". One of my favorites was Lithium ROM and SCv6, but that's all based on personal preferences. Some are odexed, others de-odexed. Just browse through the development section and look at each of the ROM's threads, they'll all have screenshots, features, and installation instructions. Some are flash able zips, others are CWM backup images. Everything you'll need to know in deciding on a ROM is in the dev section. Nothing wrong with flashing and trying each of them out, until you find one you really like...
Edit: I just looked, and seems like there's about four ROMs that will require the user to be on the leaked ICS version before flashing there's still several great ROMs for GB though!
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As long as it's not the ICS OTA because you can't go back to GB with that (yet?). I'm learning . Been 6 days and my phone hasn't been shipped, but hopefully there's some cool new stuff when it does get here.
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As long as it's not the ICS OTA because you can't go back to GB with that (yet?). I'm learning . Been 6 days and my phone hasn't been shipped, but hopefully there's some cool new stuff when it does get here.
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The official ICS OTA update will not allow you the ability to flash back to GB, at least not yet. With the "leaked" ICS, you can. But, trying with any of the newer leaked updates for ICS will turn your new phone into a new soft brick...
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The official ICS OTA update will not allow you the ability to flash back to GB, at least not yet. With the "leaked" ICS, you can. But, trying with any of the newer leaked updates for ICS will turn your new phone into a new soft brick...
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Gotcha. All the roms say you need to already be on the leak to use them which is kinda confusing, do I install this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1683893
and then this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1648421
And then root?
JDogg1329 said:
Gotcha. All the roms say you need to already be on the leak to use them which is kinda confusing, do I install this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1683893
and then this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1648421
And then root?
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I believe there's only two ROMs that are built off the leaked ICS version (SCv7 and Lunar Eclipse, though there may be more- I haven't clicked the through the development section much lately) but just wait until you get your phone, and see what version it is. Likely it will be SEARET, but I'm not certain.
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Courier company screwed up and I have to wait another few days. Hopefully get it before Friday next week. First world problems.
JDogg1329 said:
Courier company screwed up and I have to wait another few days. Hopefully get it before Friday next week. First world problems.
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Worth the waiting :good:
Chichoman said:
Worth the waiting :good:
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One more and you've earned your ticket to the development section...
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2.20, breathe of fresh air.

I cant tell you what a breathe of fresh air it is not having random reboots, or the temptation to FLASH FLASH FLASH new roms every other two weeks, or force closes, or any of the other issues that arise from running roms that are not stock...Sure, there are far less customizations and tweaks, but the battery life is phenomenal, phone is fairly fast, sense is nice, the only thing I would take away would be the at&t bloatware and the keyboard absolutely blows, swiftkey3 takes care of that though!
Cheers.
Sigh.
While I found myself telling my girlfriend this yesterday, how it was nice to not be worried about updating my rom every night and trying out multiple kernels and all that, but in reality I am just in denial and craving so bad for it I have to think negative to even survive P)
I have had the phone 3 days and LOVE it but without root IDK how long I can stand it. Thinking about trading for a S3 just for root and there are no other good alternatives.
vodka7 said:
I cant tell you what a breathe of fresh air it is not having random reboots, or the temptation to FLASH FLASH FLASH new roms every other two weeks, or force closes, or any of the other issues that arise from running roms that are not stock...Sure, there are far less customizations and tweaks, but the battery life is phenomenal, phone is fairly fast, sense is nice, the only thing I would take away would be the at&t bloatware and the keyboard absolutely blows, swiftkey3 takes care of that though!
Cheers.
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I wouldn't have the slightest problem being on a stock 2.20 if only it wasn't for the whole app associations ordeal.
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Enjoying smooth stable experience with great battery life and no FCs here too.
Running ViperXL 1.2.4 FWIW.
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I wouldn't have the slightest problem being on a stock 2.20 if only it wasn't for the whole app associations ordeal.
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I agree with this. I thought the stock software was decent enough to live with, the major exception being the Linkify crap. The battery life was so so at first (on 1.73 and 1.85) but when I flashed CleanROM the battery life improved greatly. I'm not sure if it was due to the jump in the base code or if it's ROM tweaks but its much nicer now.
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I felt the same, I was never able to get the same flawless, smooth experience I had with the 2.20 stock HOX with any of the ROMS/Kernel combinations found in this forum. And since I really like stock but been able to tweak, I moved back to the GS3, I forgot how nice and smooth it is...
That's odd ... I have random reboots on 2.20. I am currently using it unlocked on T-mobile.
i was debloating 2.20 nicely almost custom rom worthy until i found out htclinkify cant be removed so its pretty much a pointless base for a custom rom. too bad cause for me being on at&t it was the most stable and quickest of all for me personally.
I just got my HTC One X, w/ 2.20. Kinda made me mad cause I bought it for root/rom and turns out I got a HTC thats too new.
When I first got the phone I was on 1.85. I didn't root though. I was enjoy the stock experience and I thought if I ever did want to root I always could. Until 2.20 happened. I feel like they took away the freedom I had so now the second a root method comes I'm rooting to CM10 and never looking back.
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I agree about stock being the most reliable user experience. Not that custom ROMs are inherently bad, it's just the small bugs always irritated me and took away the polish from the OS. However, I disagree with you on the lack of root being a good thing. Luckily I changed to SuperCID when I first got the phone so I can still root on 2.20. Without root you're stuck with all the AT&T bloatware and no reliable backups of apps/data. I can do without flashing custom ROMs until we get a stable, feature complete build of CM10, but I need the ability to debloat and backup with Titanium.
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I agree about stock being the most reliable user experience. Not that custom ROMs are inherently bad, it's just the small bugs always irritated me and took away the polish from the OS. However, I disagree with you on the lack of root being a good thing. Luckily I changed to SuperCID when I first got the phone so I can still root on 2.20. Without root you're stuck with all the AT&T bloatware and no reliable backups of apps/data. I can do without flashing custom ROMs until we get a stable, feature complete build of CM10, but I need the ability to debloat and backup with Titanium.
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You should try wcx illuminati Rom...they have we have two versions..one.is stock with all the bloat gone and a few lil tweaks @ speed ...and the.other is the.mod build and it has a few extra mods added...
The roms are rock stable and everything works and not one hick up ever ..plus the battery life is amazing
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randong said:
You should try wcx illuminati Rom...they have we have two versions..one.is stock with all the bloat gone and a few lil tweaks @ speed ...and the.other is the.mod build and it has a few extra mods added...
The roms are rock stable and everything works and not one hick up ever ..plus the battery life is amazing
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I would love to if they didn't have the irritating minimum post count in order to download.
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ComposMentis said:
I would love to if they didn't have the irritating minimum post count in order to download.
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What's irritating about being apart of the community ...
That's what wrong with the world today ..everyone expects something.for free..the main dev ,wildchild, spends countless hours perfecting his work and makes sure that every user is completely 100% satisfied ..and all that he/we ask is to make a simple 10 post min to contribute to the forum and maybe help someone while your at it..or just share some of you experiences with others..
Some people's sense of entitlement here on xda is outrageously high..
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randong said:
What's irritating about being apart of the community ...
That's what wrong with the world today ..everyone expects something.for free..the main dev ,wildchild, spends countless hours perfecting his work and makes sure that every user is completely 100% satisfied ..and all that he/we ask is to make a simple 10 post min to contribute to the forum and maybe help someone while your at it..or just share some of you experiences with others..
Some people's sense of entitlement here on xda is outrageously high..
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What's irritating about it is that I don't want to be part of yet another "community" for my phone. I don't feel entitled to the ROM, but the fact is it's irritating to me that I would have to put up 10 meaningless posts to download software. I would rather contribute a few dollars to download the ROM than join the community. There are far bigger problems in the world today than my irritation with what I see as a pointless restriction to download the ROM.
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What's irritating about it is that I don't want to be part of yet another "community" for my phone. I don't feel entitled to the ROM, but the fact is it's irritating to me that I would have to put up 10 meaningless posts to download software. I would rather contribute a few dollars to download the ROM than join the community. There are far bigger problems in the world today than my irritation with what I see as a pointless restriction to download the ROM.
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Hey no biggie , I'm not here to twist your arm ..and your opinion is well noted, I actually prefer that community over xda..and my post count shows that since I have quadruple the amounts of post there than I do here ..
Well if ya ever change your mind and want something.different then by all means we'll be there
Have a good day
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I don't have any issues running the latest CleanROM. Better, smoother, ad-free, Custom Kernel that saves me tons of battery. Stock 2.20 is a waste.
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i was debloating 2.20 nicely almost custom rom worthy until i found out htclinkify cant be removed so its pretty much a pointless base for a custom rom. too bad cause for me being on at&t it was the most stable and quickest of all for me personally.
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You can't remove it with root explorer?
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[Q] Lost data

I just flashed the latest version of cm10.1 and now i have an R over my signal bar. Can someone tell me how to fix this? This happened once before when i flashed the 12182012 cm10.1 and it took me forever to fix.
Try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2066275. Try what's in the last post before following the instructions in the OP.
gocool767 said:
I just flashed the latest version of cm10.1 and now i have an R over my signal bar. Can someone tell me how to fix this? This happened once before when i flashed the 12182012 cm10.1 and it took me forever to fix.
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Try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2066275. Try what's in the last post before following the instructions in the OP.
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Yea we are in the hundreds of new posts on this one. Would help if some would read before they flash.
Agreed, it's getting ridiculous!
People know this.... 4.2 rom's have data problems. Practically every rom thread discusses this in a high level of detail. There are fixes if you read. Not gonna hand out this answer, as it's been said over and over in the forums. It's a source issue, even nexus devices are experiencing this issue.
Next, 4.2 will completely change your storage arrangement on your device. Legacy/and 0 folders will become dominant due to the multiuser features. Read, and learn what this will do, and how to recover from it if you downgrade back to 4.1. The op's all warn of these issues! :screwy:
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annoyingduck said:
Agreed, it's getting ridiculous!
People know this.... 4.2 rom's have data problems. Practically every rom thread discusses this in a high level of detail. There are fixes if you read. Not gonna hand out this answer, as it's been said over and over in the forums. It's a source issue, even nexus devices are experiencing this issue.
Next, 4.2 will completely change your storage arrangement on your device. Legacy/and 0 folders will become dominant due to the multiuser features. Read, and learn what this will do, and how to recover from it if you downgrade back to 4.1. The op's all warn of these issues! :screwy:
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Damn Duck. Even the devices released with 4.2 have problems. How they think gonna be stable on unsupported devices. I have $600 device. I want everything it came with to go faster but not willing to have cutting edge broke ****.
Dog, it took me all of 2 min of reading to know to stay away from 4.2 on our s3 at this time. I agree, the hit or miss on data is to risky, especially when I'm a year and a half from an upgrade!
I'm running stock rooted pure Google 4.2.1 on my Nexus 7, and it is still a WIP. For custom roms, the multiuser partitioning for source/cm based roms is causing headaches. So much is different than 4.1. Simple theme engine themes are borking the devices, as the legacy folder doesn't know where to apply it. Brand new nexus and s**t is broken, how the hell is our s3 gonna be any better running this android version at this time! Hell, cm10 based roms are still lacking full Samsung source coding....
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Dog, it took me all of 2 min of reading to know to stay away from 4.2 on our s3 at this time. I agree, the hit or miss on data is to risky, especially when I'm a year and a half from an upgrade!
I'm running stock rooted pure Google 4.2.1 on my Nexus 7, and it is still a WIP. For custom roms, the multiuser partitioning for source/cm based roms is causing headaches. So much is different than 4.1. Simple theme engine themes are borking the devices, as the legacy folder doesn't know where to apply it. Brand new nexus and s**t is broken, how the hell is our s3 gonna be any better running this android version at this time! Hell, cm10 based roms are still lacking full Samsung source coding....
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Glad to see you duck. Haven't heard from you for a while. Hey man. I'm rockin stock deodexed,kerneled, tweaked, themed 4.1.1 with all the 4.1.1-4.2 inverted apps available. **** stable. Everything works. And no hiccups. I'm good to go. Running 1.72/384 with Quad of 6500. If they didn't see my right handed app button wouldn't know I was running TW. Fast and smooth enough for me and I can call home if I need to.
You too, been on eclipse aosp for the longest time. All decked out. Running a mix of Gunthermic's dh inverts, b-boys, and justins. Will be rocking some synergy once I finish up some beta theme testing

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