Questions on downgrading GB to Froyo and stock RUU - HTC Inspire 4G

Please forgive me if this has been asked but I have looked extensively but have not found a definitive answer (maybe I overlooked something or just did not quite comprehend). I know attn1 warned against downgrading DHD/Inspire 4G if it came shipped with GB (for using AAHK). However, when I got my Inspire 4G it originally had Froyo and was updated to GB via RUU from HTC website. My phone is currently rooted and S-Off which I did after the HTC update to GB. Can I run a HTC Froyo RUU safely and do I need to downgrade HBOOT first then flash? If it is possible, where can I get the stock RUU for the Inspire 4G with the H+ update? I have not found anything on the HTC website and what I have found elsewhere was for the DHD. Once again, if this has been answered I apologize in advance and would only ask for a point in the right direction (obviously Google only got me so far).

aybarrap1 said:
Please forgive me if this has been asked but I have looked extensively but have not found a definitive answer (maybe I overlooked something or just did not quite comprehend). I know attn1 warned against downgrading DHD/Inspire 4G if it came shipped with GB (for using AAHK). However, when I got my Inspire 4G it originally had Froyo and was updated to GB via RUU from HTC website. My phone is currently rooted and S-Off which I did after the HTC update to GB. Can I run a HTC Froyo RUU safely and do I need to downgrade HBOOT first then flash? If it is possible, where can I get the stock RUU for the Inspire 4G with the H+ update? I have not found anything on the HTC website and what I have found elsewhere was for the DHD. Once again, if this has been answered I apologize in advance and would only ask for a point in the right direction (obviously Google only got me so far).
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There is no ruu for that version. Just the original froyo ruu. The first update was just a small OTA. You are safe to downgrade though and don't need to change your hboot. It's only gb shipped phones that will have issues. If you want froyo with the ota you will have to do some heavy searching.
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Thank you.
Gizmoe said:
There is no ruu for that version. Just the original froyo ruu. The first update was just a small OTA. You are safe to downgrade though and don't need to change your hboot. It's only gb shipped phones that will have issues. If you want froyo with the ota you will have to do some heavy searching.
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Thanks for the information. I was not sure if I was interpreting what I was reading correctly or not regarding downgrading. I figured finding the OTA update would be a big issue. Perhaps I will forestall downgrading after all since I was counting on data speed to some extent. I was actually planning to test something with froyo and it is the only reason why I was entertaining this whole idea at all.

Please post questions in the Q & A section. Thanks!
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efrant said:
Please post questions in the Q & A section. Thanks!
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Thanks. Got the hang of what goes where now.

aybarrap1 said:
Please forgive me if this has been asked but I have looked extensively but have not found a definitive answer (maybe I overlooked something or just did not quite comprehend). I know attn1 warned against downgrading DHD/Inspire 4G if it came shipped with GB (for using AAHK). However, when I got my Inspire 4G it originally had Froyo and was updated to GB via RUU from HTC website. My phone is currently rooted and S-Off which I did after the HTC update to GB. Can I run a HTC Froyo RUU safely and do I need to downgrade HBOOT first then flash? If it is possible, where can I get the stock RUU for the Inspire 4G with the H+ update? I have not found anything on the HTC website and what I have found elsewhere was for the DHD. Once again, if this has been answered I apologize in advance and would only ask for a point in the right direction (obviously Google only got me so far).
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Go to http://shipped-roms.com/index.php?category=android&model=Ace
It should be the first "PD98IMG" link. The official ATT ROMs are labled ATT or Cingular. The rest are for DesireHD. That PD98IMG I mentioned was the first update after the original shipped Inspire.

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Videotron/Mobilicity Panache thread

I don't own an MT4G or Panache, but I started this thread for the inevitable arrival of Mobilicity & Videotron customers who would like to mod an HTC Panache. Once the MyTouch 4G Gingerbread update came out, it was found that the Fre3vo root exploit (originally found for the Sensation/Evo 3D) will also temp-root this phone. To get S-OFF you have to roll back to an old Froyo MT4G firmware - from there you can roll back forward to anything you want.
Differences between MT4G Gingerbread and Panache for the purpose of this thread:
- Panache requires a gold card because the ROM you roll back to comes from a different carrier.
- Your preferences in terms of what ROM to put on your phone after S-OFF may be different from T-Mobile customers - ergo, discuss here if this is an issue.
Thanks to jgobeil for posting the guide in post #98:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16858971&postcount=98
Jgobeil said:
Hi,
Now that the rooting guide for the Panache is completed and posted, may I suggest that you update the first post of the Panache thread to refer newcomers to this thread to post #98 where the guide is.
This will make it easy for these people and maybe avoid costly mistakes.
Best regards and thanks for your help.
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If Gingerbreak will work on it, that would be the only difference, instead rooting with Visionary+, they'll root with Gingerbreak and proceed with the same S-OFF guide, hopefully flashing engineering bootloader.
Jack_R1 said:
If Gingerbreak will work on it, that would be the only difference, instead rooting with Visionary+, they'll root with Gingerbreak and proceed with the same S-OFF guide, hopefully flashing engineering bootloader.
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What is gingerbreak??? Is there a new rooting method called gingerbreak?
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cmstlist said:
I don't own an MT4G or Panache, but I thought I'd start this thread for the inevitable arrival of Mobilicity & Videotron customers who would like to mod an HTC Panache.
Since it has launched with Gingerbread, I am guessing the initial root steps will be a little different. If any MT4G devs have any idea what Panache users should try differently, post it here.
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Dude then why the hell did you start this if you don't own one? Stick to your own forum!
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mark manning said:
Dude then why the hell did you start this if you don't own one? Stick to your own forum!
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Because I'm Canadian and using one of the new AWS carriers here, so I want to know as much as I can about the devices they release
Jack_R1 said:
If Gingerbreak will work on it, that would be the only difference, instead rooting with Visionary+, they'll root with Gingerbreak and proceed with the same S-OFF guide, hopefully flashing engineering bootloader.
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There is someone else here on the forum who flashed the entire firmware of the Panache onto his MT4G and was unable to re-root with Gingerbreak even for temp root. Fortunately the user in question had Radio S-OFF so was eventually able to fix it. But this hints that Gingerbreak won't work.
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There is someone else here on the forum who flashed the entire firmware of the Panache onto his MT4G and was unable to re-root with Gingerbreak even for temp root. Fortunately the user in question had Radio S-OFF so was eventually able to fix it. But this hints that Gingerbreak won't work.
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That was me. And yes, none of the rooting methods out there will work on panache (including gingerbreak by SOC) firmware. I had to hboot-flash the stock 2.2.1 firmware and then was able to root.
chem.manish said:
That was me. And yes, none of the rooting methods out there will work on panache (including gingerbreak by SOC) firmware. I had to hboot-flash the stock 2.2.1 firmware and then was able to root.
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Thanks for clarifying. Of course you had S-OFF and the Mobi/Vtron Panache comes S-ON. So this leaves an open question of what is the first step to root the Panache.
chem.manish said:
That was me. And yes, none of the rooting methods out there will work on panache (including gingerbreak by SOC) firmware. I had to hboot-flash the stock 2.2.1 firmware and then was able to root.
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I just wanted to ask - you said you tried Gingerbreak and it didn't work. My question is, did you check if it at least provided you with temp root? Or it did nothing at all?
I got rooted. Just installed Rom manager to flash recovery and all is fine.
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atifsh said:
I got rooted. Just installed Rom manager to flash recovery and all is fine.
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Could you explain all the steps you took to achieve this on the Panache?
I just read your thread and it looks like you actually had a MT4G running the Panache ROM. But was your phone already S-OFF? If so, that'd probably explain why Gingerbreak worked. Not sure that'd fly on a factory Installed Panache.
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Details on post I started, but its glacier used panache RUU.
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Yes it was s-off, but another user who did that could'nt root though he also was s-off
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I see. So it's still not clear what will or won't work with a factory S-ON Panache.
It's reported that Gingerbreak does not work with S-ON Panache, but what's unclear is whether it can still be used to achieve temp root. If it can, this suggests a way to force it to an earlier T-Mo RUU which will permit the use of the S-OFF kernel exploit.
as far i know, both are same hardware and you dont need s-off to use factory RUU. thus if i can use panache RUU regardless of s-off i can flash mytouch 4g RUU on panache.
atifsh said:
as far i know, both are same hardware and you dont need s-off to use factory RUU. thus if i can use panache RUU regardless of s-off i can flash mytouch 4g RUU on panache.
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You need at the very least temproot to edit the "misc" partition before flashing an older version bootloader RUU, otherwise it will reject it. Since it is not yet established that temproot works on factory S-ON Panache, there is no established way to downgrade the RUU. So there is still no clear pathway yet.
If you say so though I still think u dont need any sort of root for official RUU.exe
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An official RUU will fail, even with a gold card, if it's an older version than the current bootloader. All MT4G official firmwares are older than the Panache's. The only way around this is a root hack.
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cmstlist said:
An official RUU will fail, even with a gold card, if it's an older version than the current bootloader. All MT4G official firmwares are older than the Panache's. The only way around this is a root hack.
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ok i didnt know that, i thought its more like flashing a bios where it says u have this ver and willflash this
Okay so I see on the Mobilicity and Videotron Panache that it has peak speeds of 21 Mbps whereas the MT4G is 14.4, did they make a hardware change or is this in the firmware?
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I just wanted to ask - you said you tried Gingerbreak and it didn't work. My question is, did you check if it at least provided you with temp root? Or it did nothing at all?
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No, it didnt even temp root. As i said earlier i did not have a true s-off. I even tried flashing cwm through fastboot but bootloader didnt allow that (it should have if i had a true s-off).

htc desire hd radio with htc inspire 4g?

can someone knows if i can use a htc desire HD radio with my Htc inspire 4G??
thanks in advanced
Facepalm
You do realize there is an entire freaking thread on this exact thing in dev section?
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Pirateghost said:
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You do realize there is an entire freaking thread on this exact thing in dev section?
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yeah i know that is one thread about radios but my many of the radios that are in the desire HD section are not in the inspire 4G sections and that is what i am asking... if those radios that are not in the radio inspire 4g section could be used with my inspire?
Short answer: maybe.
The whole point of the Inspire radio thread was to confirm which of the many possible radios available for the inspire/DHD can be confirmed to work specifically with the Inspire.
Any word on whether or not the new radio 12.59.60.26U_26.11.04.21_M for the DHD works on the inspire yet? The radio thread hasnt been updated yet.
EDIT: Nevermind, the thread has been updated now and the radio works flawlessly.
I have yet to see a problem with any DHD radio on my Inspire4g. It's android man. As long as you are flashing it the safe way with a zip file through HBOOT and not engie s-off through fastboot there really isn't much that can go wrong. Try it, see if it works for you, if it doesn't then flash something else.
dmobile1337 said:
I have yet to see a problem with any DHD radio on my Inspire4g. It's android man. As long as you are flashing it the safe way with a zip file through HBOOT and not engie s-off through fastboot there really isn't much that can go wrong. Try it, see if it works for you, if it doesn't then flash something else.
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This is not correct, things can still go wrong even when flashing the safe way. That is why none of the developers or modders will claim responsibility if the end user breaks something.
I believe I said "there isn't much that can go wrong" not "IT'S TOTALLY SAFE!"
I would consider a bricked phone more than "a little going wrong". It is a possibility, and it shouldn't be downplayed or taken lightly.
How can I determine the version of radio that is currently installed? I tried the HBOOT method with the Radio_12.54.60.25_26.09.04.11_M2.zip file and I am not sure it worked, because my Inspire 4G seems to just be an Inspire now... I don't get 4G connects any more.
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How can I determine the version of radio that is currently installed? I tried the HBOOT method with the Radio_12.54.60.25_26.09.04.11_M2.zip file and I am not sure it worked, because my Inspire 4G seems to just be an Inspire now... I don't get 4G connects any more.
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Try this. http://db.tt/05R5UX9 I found it somewhere...
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If you installed a custom ROM that is not based on the inspire you will not see the H+ anymore. Does not mean you are not getting the same connection.
To see your radio version just go to settings > about phone > software information and it is listed in the Baseband version.

[Q] worried for official upates

hi guys.
i am using t-mobile htc sensation 4g and i live in ASIA-INDIA
i have rooted and s-oof my phone and now i reverted to s-on and unroot and have official t-mobile ruu.
and i have super cid my phone....
NOW MY QUESTION IS THAT CAN I FLASH ASIAN RUU AND GET OFFICIAL UPDATE FROM HTC IN MY T-MOBILE SENSATION ????
THANKS
this should just about answer everything. i recently did this with my phone with no problem. basically you just need to flash a shipped stock Rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
Hi people
I am new to android and have heard lot about rooting a fone I don't know what need to be done and which custom ROMS will be safe for my phone.
Please provide me a link where I can download the custom ROM for my fone and steps please
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amaan9090 said:
...Please provide me a link where I can download the custom ROM for my fone and steps please...
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To be able to point you into the specific direction you need to provide some additional information, especially like:
- country
- branding/provider
In general you can find all available stock RUU here:
http://www.filefactory.com/f/c87a2330449af512/
amaan9090 said:
Hi people
I am new to android and have heard lot about rooting a fone I don't know what need to be done and which custom ROMS will be safe for my phone.
Please provide me a link where I can download the custom ROM for my fone and steps please
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1st of go here [Guide] to Installing S-off, Unlocking, ClockWork, Root, SuperCID & S-on that will tell you how to get root and flash custom rom.
2nd go hereROMS that is where all custom roms are.
3rd you should realy open your own thread or use search box as hijacking someones thread aint nice
amaan9090 said:
Hi people
I am new to android and have heard lot about rooting a fone I don't know what need to be done and which custom ROMS will be safe for my phone.
Please provide me a link where I can download the custom ROM for my fone and steps please
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I would strongly recomment you to read, re-read and search (google or XDA) if you have questions.
Anyway the starting place is:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
o S-OFF allows you to install stuff that you need by bypassing phone security.
o Recovery (e.g. ClockworkMod a.k.a CWM) allows you to install ROMs. It also allows you to do a complete (well almost) phone backup and recovery of the phone. So it's easy to get back to a prior version, Nandroid backup/recovery.
o SU gives you admin rights on the phone.
o SuperCID alows you to install any county's /carrier's ROM. e.g. debrand the phone from the shipped ROM.
There are a myriad of ROMs in: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1112
Have a look at the number of replies / number of times they've been viewed to get some idea about the popularity.
You'll need to make a couple of decisions:
1: AOSP or Sense based ROMs. The stock one is Sense, pure Google Android is AOSP, they each have a different look and feel.
2: GB (Gingerbread) or ICS (Ice Cream Sandwich). ICS is the latest BUT BUT BUT needs additional steps to be performed to update the phone's firmware. I WOULD strongly suggest starting out with a GB ROM first as there is less likely to go wrong.
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1st of go here [Guide] to Installing S-off, Unlocking, ClockWork, Root, SuperCID & S-on that will tell you how to get root and flash custom rom.
2nd go hereROMS that is where all custom roms are.
3rd you should realy open your own thread or use search box as hijacking someones thread aint nice
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Can u tell me answer to my original question of this thread please
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ptlsajan said:
Can u tell me answer to my original question of this thread please
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Surely the post immediately after your OP answered the question, or did it not ?
The other posts, including my earlier one, answered a different question. Hence the comment from another poster, sorry don't have the name, mentioned hijacking threads is not cool.
sorry i am a newbee.........but the post you gave was a link for guide to s-off and s-on....and i have completely done s-on...........but still worried to have official ota as my phone is still 30 days old
ptlsajan said:
sorry i am a newbee.........but the post you gave was a link for guide to s-off and s-on....and i have completely done s-on...........but still worried to have official ota as my phone is still 30 days old
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OK getting the thread back on track.
Did the post after you original one answer the your question.
If not, get the phone S-OFF'd and SuperCID then just install an appropriate RUU, then you'd get the OTA.
EDIT: or just reinstall the RUU for your county/carrier
Most people are going away from shipped ROMs here and trying different ROMs with their good and bad things.
So you mean to say that we can get HTC update with s-off and original ruu only......and u mean no need to do s-on also ????
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ptlsajan said:
So you mean to say that we can get HTC update with s-off and original ruu only......and u mean no need to do s-on also ????
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Look, someone posted a potential solution. Someone else asked a different question (hijacked thread) which was answered.
Please explain the current situation and the attemps you've tried that have failed.
HBOOT, Recovery, Radio, ...... That info is crutial. Also what you are attempting to achieve .
i had s-off and rooted and now i have succesfully s-on and unrooted my device and now i am on official stock ruu...........my question is that can i update my phone via ota updates from htc???
I think OP is trying to ask if flashing an Asian RUU and going to S-ON will turn his T-Mobile Sensation 4G into a proper Asian handset (and therefore get OTA updates that official Asian handsets do).
I'm not sure if it would (maybe there's an IMEI check?), but I would change my CID to be what it should be for that RUU (and not leave it at supercid).
i have supercid my phone and i remain on t-mobile ruu then will i get official update
I'm actually quite curios to know the answer, if I just s-off my phone will I be receiving updates from HTC, I got the T-mobile phone and I live in the middle east, my phone does not read arabic, I'd ultimately like to install a middle east rom , but then will the official updates stop?
I don't think anyone will know until the OTA drops. My hunch is that having the right RUU and CID would mean you get the OTAs. Having supercid will probably not work, since that's essentially what identifies your region.
But putting my XDA hat on, why would you want an OTA anyway when we have legendary chefs here to get you hooked up with good roms?
btw, I tried out one of the InsertCoin ICS roms, and the Facebook app could read Arabic and Urdu properly (right-to-left with joined letters). I didn't check the browser, but it probably would have worked as well. (In GB, you'd have to patch the system libraries to get proper letter joining)
I guess you wouldn't, I just read some people commenting about having some bugs in their custom roms, so I just automatically assumed that the stock roms are at least stable. the other reason is that I'm afraid to break something
I just went through this, I had s-off with super cid and had the stock HTC Europe RUU flashed on my phone.
The phone detected an OTA update was available (an old one that was released after the RUU), but when I tried to download it, it just timed out. I reset my CID to HTC__001 and then it downloaded the update OK.
i bricked my phone while doing s-on
i know its a true brick as nothing is happining not even the charge light
can u tell me that "would this have affected my motherboard or not"????

HTC sense software update for inspire 4G

Hi,
I am using HTC at&t Inspire 4G unlocked phone with other service provider. Recently HTC released an software update (software build 3.20.502.2) that contains HTC sense 3. My question is, can I install this update on my phone via manual mode since I don't have at&t connection.
Does anybody has same issue?
Thanks in advance, Please HELP me.......
chandu356 said:
Hi,
I am using HTC at&t Inspire 4G unlocked phone with other service provider. Recently HTC released an software update (software build 3.20.502.2) that contains HTC sense 3. My question is, can I install this update on my phone via manual mode since I don't have at&t connection.
Does anybody has same issue?
Thanks in advance, Please HELP me.......
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You could try running ruu from website but it will lock your bootloader. Or you could just flash one from the inspire dev thread. There are a few different ones with this base.
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Gizmoe said:
You could try running ruu from website but it will lock your bootloader. Or you could just flash one from the inspire dev thread. There are a few different ones with this base.
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They also have a link to download it on the AT&T Inspire support forum. It may break the root on your phone though and there are problems with the update on rooted phones in other posts on XDA. I would just look at another ROM that has whatever improvements you want. I updated my stock Inspire and I am not overwhelmed with the upgrade. I will be looking at rooting and a different ROM for mine this weekend. I can not post the AT&T link, not enough posts yet, but as I said, I would not advise you to upgrade the result is marginal at best and has slowed my Inspire and reduced the call volume.
JTM65 said:
They also have a link to download it on the AT&T Inspire support forum. It may break the root on your phone though and there are problems with the update on rooted phones in other posts on XDA. I would just look at another ROM that has whatever improvements you want. I updated my stock Inspire and I am not overwhelmed with the upgrade. I will be looking at rooting and a different ROM for mine this weekend. I can not post the AT&T link, not enough posts yet, but as I said, I would not advise you to upgrade the result is marginal at best and has slowed my Inspire and reduced the call volume.
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Thanks to ALL!
I have updated by manual method even before I read your post and took a chance. Rightly said by you It has marginal improvement. More over my RAM is almost full. Speed got reduced. Even though these are my first impressions I hope they may subside in future.
Can you guide me how to release my RAM memory. Most of times it is 500 full and 100 free. If problem persists can we roll back to our previous version of HTC sense. If it is possible please let me know.
chandu356 said:
Thanks to ALL!
I have updated by manual method even before I read your post and took a chance. Rightly said by you It has marginal improvement. More over my RAM is almost full. Speed got reduced. Even though these are my first impressions I hope they may subside in future.
Can you guide me how to release my RAM memory. Most of times it is 500 full and 100 free. If problem persists can we roll back to our previous version of HTC sense. If it is possible please let me know.
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thanks
Gizmoe said:
You could try running ruu from website but it will lock your bootloader. Or you could just flash one from the inspire dev thread. There are a few different ones with this base.
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wheres the inspire dev thread?
chrisb906 said:
wheres the inspire dev thread?
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Inspire development forum I meant. The same forum my Rom is in.
Oh OK. Lol what's the best in your opinion
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tips and fix problem
you should unlock your phone's bootloader,then flash your phone with latest firmware.and then you will be upgrade your phone.

rogers one X n00b help thread

Hi Guys!
Just wanted to introduce myself and ask a bunch of n00bish questions.
I recently acquired an HTC One X on Rogers for dirt cheap (basically $0) and this is my first Android phone having used an iPhone for the past few years. I'm not completely lost around ROMs having cut my teeth on windows mobile phones right here on xda-devs years ago but my iPhone took me away for a number of years.
I've gone through as much of the existing FAQs and help threads as I could but I have a few questions I couldn't find the answers for: Hopefully these are simple enough for the folks here!
1) My HOX out of the box is running FW version 1.73, Android 4.0.3. I see there's some bootloader unlocking issues with AT&T HOX's with FW 1.85 and 2.2 and above. Do these restrictions not apply to the Rogers HOX? Is there a point i should be worried about not having an unlockable bootloader?
2) My ultimate goal is to get a maintainable ROM where I can easily get OS updates without having to manually reload any custom settings or apps. Being an Android n00b, I consistently hear about Cyanogenmod ROMs. Can I jump from my current Stock ROM straight to Cyanogenmod 10.1 JB? or do I have to do something in between?
3) Are there other community ROMs that's better for the HOX than CM? I'm looking for a plain jane out of box experience. I really love how the iPhone works really really great out of the box without any huge amount of setting changes. And that's what I strived for with my old windows mobile device ROMs.
4) Yay or Nay on HTC Sense?
5) Yay or Nay on Staying on the Stock Rogers ROMs (I think the JB update is available now).
6) If I elect to do all the OTA updates, is there something I should avoid like a permanent locked bootloader version or something like that?
7) If I install all the OTA updates and eventually end up on the Rogers JB rom (I assume it's a bunch of incremental updates since auto updates shows I have update 1.93 which isn't the JB rom), can I revert back to the 4.0.3 rom?
I think that's it for now... Sorry for the long list. it definitely grew as I typed it!
Thanks a tonne! I know how great a resource xda-devs was and is. Can't wait to get into all of this again. !
Rogers does not lock down bootloader. You should be fine.
As for sense or aosp it just depends on preference.
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Venomtester said:
Rogers does not lock down bootloader. You should be fine.
As for sense or aosp it just depends on preference.
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apologies for my probing questions as I'm trying to flesh out the dependencies of everything...
Does the rogers HOX need to be s-off'd when flashing custom ROMs.
How do OTA updates work? Do they only apply to a certain kind of stock ROMs? Do custom ROMs have OTA updates?
thanks,
Depending on hboot yes s-off is preferred because it makes flashing easier. You will not have to flash boot image seperately. Some custom roms have ota built in so that you are notified of a new version. Once you start the unlock process it is wise to never take an ota update for stock Rom. Aosp such as Avatar and Sense based Viperxl both can be ota updated. There are more. It will usaully state these capabilities on the page.
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Venomtester said:
Depending on hboot yes s-off is preferred because it makes flashing easier. You will not have to flash boot image seperately. Some custom roms have ota built in so that you are notified of a new version. Once you start the unlock process it is wise to never take an ota update for stock Rom. Aosp such as Avatar and Sense based Viperxl both can be ota updated. There are more. It will usaully state these capabilities on the page.
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When you say I shouldn't take an OTA update after unlocking the bootloader, why is that?
Let's say I unlock the bootloader, but keep the stock rogers ROM and OTA update it. These are just OS updates right? they shouldn't touch the bootloader or do they?
Also, if the Rogers Bootloader is not locked down, then do I even need to unlock it? or do you guys mean it's unlockABLE and still needs to be unlocked?
Does rooting also make a device not OTA'able?
Finally, how are the bootloaders tied to the FW version and to the OS version? Coming from an iPhone, there was the baseband/Radio FW and OS versions, and sometimes a specific hardware version, but that's it. what's the heirarchy for the bootloader and the FW, and the OS?
finally, if there's a good resource that answers a lot of these "android rom 101" questions, please send along a link. I know you guys are busy!
Thanks!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37665520
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40223035
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Thanks venomtester, I was just on those pages when I went to check for your reply.. =)
For a general question to the Rogers HOX folks...
just wanted to confirm the following workflow:
1) unlock my rogers HOX with htcdev unlock process
2) get root by running superboot r2
2) run facepalm to s-off my HOX
4) pick a ROM and flash!
That sound about right? I'm not missing anything obvious? I'm not entirely sure if the tools like superboot r2 and facepalm have been superceded by other tools. Especially with all the AT&T specific processes...
This certainly is a few more steps than I'm used to from my Windows Mobile days... =)
Thanks again,
mr_yellow said:
Thanks venomtester, I was just on those pages when I went to check for your reply.. =)
For a general question to the Rogers HOX folks...
just wanted to confirm the following workflow:
1) unlock my rogers HOX with htcdev unlock process
2) get root by running superboot r2
2) run facepalm to s-off my HOX
4) pick a ROM and flash!
That sound about right? I'm not missing anything obvious? I'm not entirely sure if the tools like superboot r2 and facepalm have been superceded by other tools. Especially with all the AT&T specific processes...
This certainly is a few more steps than I'm used to from my Windows Mobile days... =)
Thanks again,
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Step 2 should be flash TWRP 2.3.x.x no need for superboot r2?... not sure what that is.
And you'll need to flash a rooted rom before S-OFF or let TWRP root your rom if your hboot is under 2.14
Deleted. Sorry ex ad. Didn't see your post.
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Deleted. Sorry ex ad. Didn't see your post.
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Lol, I don't care if other people answer too, so long as they're not answering with the wrong info. There's a few of us so it's hard to coordinate Didn't mean to jack your helping
Oh no sir. You didn't jack at all as I was going to quote your earlier post from a different thread.
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Venomtester said:
Rogers does not lock down bootloader. You should be fine.
As for sense or aosp it just depends on preference.
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My two Rogers one x handsets came with lock bootloaders. I just unlocked my second on on Saturday.
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What he was saying is they can be unlocked without having to change the cid which is what us with att phones have to do
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