I don't own an MT4G or Panache, but I started this thread for the inevitable arrival of Mobilicity & Videotron customers who would like to mod an HTC Panache. Once the MyTouch 4G Gingerbread update came out, it was found that the Fre3vo root exploit (originally found for the Sensation/Evo 3D) will also temp-root this phone. To get S-OFF you have to roll back to an old Froyo MT4G firmware - from there you can roll back forward to anything you want.
Differences between MT4G Gingerbread and Panache for the purpose of this thread:
- Panache requires a gold card because the ROM you roll back to comes from a different carrier.
- Your preferences in terms of what ROM to put on your phone after S-OFF may be different from T-Mobile customers - ergo, discuss here if this is an issue.
Thanks to jgobeil for posting the guide in post #98:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16858971&postcount=98
Jgobeil said:
Hi,
Now that the rooting guide for the Panache is completed and posted, may I suggest that you update the first post of the Panache thread to refer newcomers to this thread to post #98 where the guide is.
This will make it easy for these people and maybe avoid costly mistakes.
Best regards and thanks for your help.
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If Gingerbreak will work on it, that would be the only difference, instead rooting with Visionary+, they'll root with Gingerbreak and proceed with the same S-OFF guide, hopefully flashing engineering bootloader.
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If Gingerbreak will work on it, that would be the only difference, instead rooting with Visionary+, they'll root with Gingerbreak and proceed with the same S-OFF guide, hopefully flashing engineering bootloader.
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What is gingerbreak??? Is there a new rooting method called gingerbreak?
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cmstlist said:
I don't own an MT4G or Panache, but I thought I'd start this thread for the inevitable arrival of Mobilicity & Videotron customers who would like to mod an HTC Panache.
Since it has launched with Gingerbread, I am guessing the initial root steps will be a little different. If any MT4G devs have any idea what Panache users should try differently, post it here.
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Dude then why the hell did you start this if you don't own one? Stick to your own forum!
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Dude then why the hell did you start this if you don't own one? Stick to your own forum!
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Because I'm Canadian and using one of the new AWS carriers here, so I want to know as much as I can about the devices they release
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If Gingerbreak will work on it, that would be the only difference, instead rooting with Visionary+, they'll root with Gingerbreak and proceed with the same S-OFF guide, hopefully flashing engineering bootloader.
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There is someone else here on the forum who flashed the entire firmware of the Panache onto his MT4G and was unable to re-root with Gingerbreak even for temp root. Fortunately the user in question had Radio S-OFF so was eventually able to fix it. But this hints that Gingerbreak won't work.
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There is someone else here on the forum who flashed the entire firmware of the Panache onto his MT4G and was unable to re-root with Gingerbreak even for temp root. Fortunately the user in question had Radio S-OFF so was eventually able to fix it. But this hints that Gingerbreak won't work.
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That was me. And yes, none of the rooting methods out there will work on panache (including gingerbreak by SOC) firmware. I had to hboot-flash the stock 2.2.1 firmware and then was able to root.
chem.manish said:
That was me. And yes, none of the rooting methods out there will work on panache (including gingerbreak by SOC) firmware. I had to hboot-flash the stock 2.2.1 firmware and then was able to root.
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Thanks for clarifying. Of course you had S-OFF and the Mobi/Vtron Panache comes S-ON. So this leaves an open question of what is the first step to root the Panache.
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That was me. And yes, none of the rooting methods out there will work on panache (including gingerbreak by SOC) firmware. I had to hboot-flash the stock 2.2.1 firmware and then was able to root.
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I just wanted to ask - you said you tried Gingerbreak and it didn't work. My question is, did you check if it at least provided you with temp root? Or it did nothing at all?
I got rooted. Just installed Rom manager to flash recovery and all is fine.
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I got rooted. Just installed Rom manager to flash recovery and all is fine.
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Could you explain all the steps you took to achieve this on the Panache?
I just read your thread and it looks like you actually had a MT4G running the Panache ROM. But was your phone already S-OFF? If so, that'd probably explain why Gingerbreak worked. Not sure that'd fly on a factory Installed Panache.
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Details on post I started, but its glacier used panache RUU.
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Yes it was s-off, but another user who did that could'nt root though he also was s-off
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I see. So it's still not clear what will or won't work with a factory S-ON Panache.
It's reported that Gingerbreak does not work with S-ON Panache, but what's unclear is whether it can still be used to achieve temp root. If it can, this suggests a way to force it to an earlier T-Mo RUU which will permit the use of the S-OFF kernel exploit.
as far i know, both are same hardware and you dont need s-off to use factory RUU. thus if i can use panache RUU regardless of s-off i can flash mytouch 4g RUU on panache.
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as far i know, both are same hardware and you dont need s-off to use factory RUU. thus if i can use panache RUU regardless of s-off i can flash mytouch 4g RUU on panache.
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You need at the very least temproot to edit the "misc" partition before flashing an older version bootloader RUU, otherwise it will reject it. Since it is not yet established that temproot works on factory S-ON Panache, there is no established way to downgrade the RUU. So there is still no clear pathway yet.
If you say so though I still think u dont need any sort of root for official RUU.exe
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An official RUU will fail, even with a gold card, if it's an older version than the current bootloader. All MT4G official firmwares are older than the Panache's. The only way around this is a root hack.
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An official RUU will fail, even with a gold card, if it's an older version than the current bootloader. All MT4G official firmwares are older than the Panache's. The only way around this is a root hack.
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ok i didnt know that, i thought its more like flashing a bios where it says u have this ver and willflash this
Okay so I see on the Mobilicity and Videotron Panache that it has peak speeds of 21 Mbps whereas the MT4G is 14.4, did they make a hardware change or is this in the firmware?
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I just wanted to ask - you said you tried Gingerbreak and it didn't work. My question is, did you check if it at least provided you with temp root? Or it did nothing at all?
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No, it didnt even temp root. As i said earlier i did not have a true s-off. I even tried flashing cwm through fastboot but bootloader didnt allow that (it should have if i had a true s-off).
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What will the impact of this update be?
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What will the impact of this update be?
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The impact will be that it will update this phone to gingerbread. Neat, huh?
Now if you're talking rootability, how would we know until it's released? I won't take a chance. I think the update for the dhd is unrootable. When put on a stock phone, you're hosed.
For custom roms? I'm sure it'll be a good thing.
agreed. i don't think the inspire will ever get an unlocked rom direct from htc and especially not from at&t. if your interested (like i am) in a stock rom based on gingerbread wait for a developer to release a rooted version of the at&t update coming in august.
i just wish htc would add sense 3.0 to the coming rom, but i don't imagine that will ever happen either. thank goodness for the developers on here to make our phones what they could be from htc.
There's a new exploit, Fre3vo, that should work on the forthcoming Inspire GB update unless HTC patches it at the last minute which is not likely (it's already in the pipeline).
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There's a new exploit, Fre3vo, that should work on the forthcoming Inspire GB update unless HTC patches it at the last minute which is not likely (it's already in the pipeline).
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They are saving that for a later ota
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Move to android 2.3. A couple of fixes. Same laggy sense sadly.
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There's a new exploit, Fre3vo, that should work on the forthcoming Inspire GB update unless HTC patches it at the last minute which is not likely (it's already in the pipeline).
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I queried you with this on the other thread, but it looks like it's getting buried. From what I have seen, this just gives a temp root and doesn't break the nand security. I was wondering if perhaps you had seen some info I hadn't come across that indicated otherwise.
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fernandezhjr said:
I queried you with this on the other thread, but it looks like it's getting buried. From what I have seen, this just gives a temp root and doesn't break the nand security. I was wondering if perhaps you had seen some info I hadn't come across that indicated otherwise.
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You need temproot to change the version information. From there (with a goldcard), you can downgrade the ROM to the version that can be used with gfree to get S-OFF. Once you've got S-OFF you're home free!
Basically it's the same method as before, but using fre3vo instead of psneuter or rage (psneuter and rage exploits have been patched in latest HTC RUUs).
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You need temproot to change the version information. From there (with a goldcard), you can downgrade the ROM to the version that can be used with gfree to get S-OFF. Once you've got S-OFF you're home free!
Basically it's the same method as before, but using fre3vo instead of psneuter or rage (psneuter and rage exploits have been patched in latest HTC RUUs).
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So basically this is specific to the Inspire. We still benefit from having the ability to downgrade and exploit. I was wondering why it wouldn't perma root the EVO 3D. Thanks.
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So basically this is specific to the Inspire. We still benefit from having the ability to downgrade and exploit. I was wondering why it wouldn't perma root the EVO 3D. Thanks.
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Well, most any rooting procedure needs to get temproot at some point in the process. Fre3vo works on a lot of HTC GB RUUs, but I'm not sure if it works on other brands. The workings are still a closely guarded secret for now.
I've been reading every thread about it out there but I simply can't get a straight answer out of anyone. I'm S-On currently and have already installed the update. Some people have said that it has worked from them yet others have said that it patches fr3vo which Revolutionary needs to work. So which is it? And if I can't do S-Off, is there a way to get my Sensation back to 2.3.3 to use revolutionary?
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If your hboot version supports it, then I say go for it.
Make sure you're S-OFF but have stock recovery before you update and you can run Revolutionary again.
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I've been reading every thread about it out there but I simply can't get a straight answer out of anyone. I'm S-On currently and have already installed the update. Some people have said that it has worked from them yet others have said that it patches fr3vo which Revolutionary needs to work. So which is it? And if I can't do S-Off, is there a way to get my Sensation back to 2.3.3 to use revolutionary?
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Flashing RUU would get you back, as I've seen boot images in the rom.zip of the RUU.
I dunno though if the RUU checks for higher versions or not..
I believe that you can s-off if the HBOOT you have is supported by revolutionary. Give it a try you're not losing anything.
i was 2.3.3 then updated to 2.3.4 ota. read around that u couldnt get s-off if u were s-on and got 2.3.4 update because of hboot.. i did it anyways no problems everything worked fine
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i was 2.3.3 then updated to 2.3.4 ota. read around that u couldnt get s-off if u were s-on and got 2.3.4 update because of hboot.. i did it anyways no problems everything worked fine
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Thanks so much for finally clarifying that. I'd thank you properly but I'm on the xda app right now. I'll do it in the morning.
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okay what is solution than for this: [Q] OTA update to Android 2.3.4 problem
redo to S-ON is qutely non cofortable :-(
thanx,
Ondrej
roul174 said:
okay what is solution than for this: [Q] OTA update to Android 2.3.4 problem
redo to S-ON is qutely non cofortable :-(
thanx,
Ondrej
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Don't thread jack please.
I have seen this work on older phones like the original myTouch 3g and the 3g Slide, so i was just wondering if this was possible to achieve at least root (no S-off) and if so would there be a way to get S-off?
izzy001 said:
I have seen this work on older phones like the original myTouch 3g and the 3g Slide, so i was just wondering if this was possible to achieve at least root (no S-off) and if so would there be a way to get S-off?
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Are you talking about the mt4gs? We already have soff and root.
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Are you talking about the mt4gs? We already have soff and root.
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No, we don't.
Some people do, but anyone who has the latest OTA can't gain root (at least until HTC fixes their unlocker tool).
I remember making a gold card 2 years ago for the original Mytouch for a friend. Using a hex editor. What does that actually do though?
I dont have S-Off cuz i was dumb and did the OTA before i rooted. I was just asking to add possibilities out there. Would it really be possible though, it be pretty nice if we got at least custom recover from it.
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izzy001 said:
I dont have S-Off cuz i was dumb and did the OTA before i rooted. I was just asking to add possibilities out there. Would it really be possible though, it be pretty nice if we got at least custom recover from it.
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If your S-Off there's methods to get Clockwork back on.
HTC is going to FIX (Yes Fix) the OTA Update to allow S-Off, and Root. I called T-Mo, and HTC. My Uncle wanted his Doubleshot Rooted, but couldn't because he (Stupidly) updated.
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I'm not familiar with super CID coming from the Mytouch4G, how many of you did it when you rooted? I'm rooting my Sensation 4G as I type this.
i did and you should do the same cause in the future will be very useful
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i did and you should do the same cause in the future will be very useful
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+1 why not do it when you have the chance. I've not seen any downside so far.
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+1 why not do it when you have the chance. I've not seen any downside so far.
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for example if you want to install ICS fw you need to be supercided
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i did and you should do the same cause in the future will be very useful
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I don't have to do it at this time right? I could always choose to do it later correct? The reason I ask is because I read that you would not be able to receive any OTA updates HTC pushes out.
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I don't have to do it at this time right? I could always choose to do it later correct? The reason I ask is because I read that you would not be able to receive any OTA updates HTC pushes out.
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well if you don't want to install ics custom rom you don't have to but if you want you have anyway there are ics fw that can be installed without supercid but imo it is better to supercid
edit: and if you supercid you can revert it back....however if you have rooted the phone you can't receive OTA, or better you can but it will brick your phone
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well if you don't want to install ics custom rom you don't have to but if you want you have anyway there are ics fw that can be installed without supercid but imo it is better to supercid
edit: and if you supercid you can revert it back....however if you have rooted the phone you can't receive OTA, or better you can but it will brick your phone
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So receiving an OTA on a rooted phone will brick the phone? Well that's good info to know lol. Thanks matt95
jaysun3000 said:
So receiving an OTA on a rooted phone will brick the phone? Well that's good info to know lol. Thanks matt95
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yes man before getting the ota you MUST flash the stock htc RUU which you can find in the development forum
Almost everyone does SuperCID after rooting.
After Rooting, I didn't though. I just S-Offed. A week later, I realized I had to SuperCID to get some ROMs to work. So I did it and never regretted.
Go for it.
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I'm not familiar with super CID coming from the Mytouch4G, how many of you did it when you rooted? I'm rooting my Sensation 4G as I type this.
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Always sper cid for safe side. If you change to supre cid will be very useful no need to worry.
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I also did not super CID right away, but for a lot of ROM it is necessary so eventually I had to do it and never regreted it so far...
yup really helpful I did
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I have done the supercid
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what exactly did I miss?
I have not needed supercid, I simply s-off'd and not needed any such thing.
I have updated the fw and I'm running Virtuous Inquisition ICS rom, no problems?
I really don't understand why you'd want to change the CID or how it affects ROMS
You don't have to supercid, but it might be handy at some point. It will allow you to flash any ruu shall you ever need it.
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There are no downsides. I did it as soon as I got my Sensation.
I bought my sensation pre rooted, I have latest firmware and am runnin a 4.0.3. Rom, so does this mean the guy used superCID or whatever
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Well I must say Im glad I went supercid
I think I saved me a super headache when I got stuck in a bootloop from flasing a ICS the wrong way whatever I did wrong I was able to find a stock RUU in no time thanks y'all.
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if your not branded,
you will almost never have to supercid for a custom rom to install.
but for example if a firmware update is mandatory, you might depending on your cid/mid.
i own a xe device and never supercid it, can install anything without problems. (dont always) believe what people say, but always check the description on the base of your own cid/mid yourself.
that said,it cant hurt to supercid, but if its not mandatory why?
+1 Me too
+1 I've supercid as well, changed a few times back to orginal CID because of warranty without problem.
I plan on rooting a friends Inspire 4g and I was wondering which method should I use to root the phone? I understand there are 2 different ways. It's an HTC Inspire 4g 2.3.5 with the build number 3.20.502.52 cl380259. I can't seem to find any recent ways to find out how to do this except this on here:
http://tau.shadowchild.nl/attn1/?p=88
Is that the only way to do it now? I have experience with rooting. I've rooted 2 HTC arias in the past along with a moto back flip and atrix 2, so I do have rooting and flashing experience. Im just trying to get some more info before doing this. Thanks for any and all help.
Yes, you would need to do it that way for S-Off. You could also unlock the boot loader with HTCDEV only, but you will be S-On and get fewer options that way.
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Yes, you would need to do it that way for S-Off. You could also unlock the boot loader with HTCDEV only, but you will be S-On and get fewer options that way.
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Well I plan to only flash one rom on this device and never mess with it again. Preferably CM9/10. I don't plan on messing with different roms after that. So if I root using HTCDEV, will I be able to flash one of those ROMS?
Yes. You will need to fastboot flash boot.img separately after the ROM.
Banana gave me a link for AAHK and its better, I have s off and unlocked bootloader.....I've never used HTC dev unlock
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Banana gave me a link for AAHK and its better, I have s off and unlocked bootloader.....I've never used HTC dev unlock
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Then you don't have an unlocked bootloader. You are S-OFF, which means that the nand partition security is off now. That allows you to flash anything you want...much better than an unlock bootloader only.
Help please
I am on the same build.succed in unlocking boot loader by HTCDEV.But cant flash the boot image as mension here http://tau.shadowchild.nl/attn1/?p=88.
What to do ?
thank in advance.
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I am on the same build.succed in unlocking boot loader by HTCDEV.But cant flash the boot image as mension here http://tau.shadowchild.nl/attn1/?p=88.
What to do ?
thank in advance.
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Why not? what is the problem you are having to flash the boot image?
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Banana gave me a link for AAHK and its better, I have s off and unlocked bootloader.....I've never used HTC dev unlock
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Then you don't have an unlocked bootloader. You are S-OFF, which means that the nand partition security is off now. That allows you to flash anything you want...much better than an unlock bootloader only.
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So if I just root and have S-OFF without having an unlocked bootloader, I can flash any ROM of my choosing? That seems like it's the best way to go or the easiest at least. Could you give me or mind PM'ing me the AAHK that you used Jrhodes?
Check the thread linked in my signature.
HELP with the rom
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I am on the same build.succed in unlocking boot loader by HTCDEV.But cant flash the boot image as mension here http://tau.shadowchild.nl/attn1/?p=88.
What to do ?
thank in advance.
Why not? what is the problem you are having to flash the boot image?
I am not able to flash the boot.img in any way.Before trying the hack kit.
Thanks
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baySF said:
So if I just root and have S-OFF without having an unlocked bootloader, I can flash any ROM of my choosing? That seems like it's the best way to go or the easiest at least. Could you give me or mind PM'ing me the AAHK that you used Jrhodes?
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I used the link glev gave me. On a side note I'm trying to understand radios and how to flash em...i haven't changed the radio yet but I'm using T-Mobile and I don't get signal..I'm probably just going to switch to at&t next month.
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Is it possible to root an AT&T Inspire 4G? My friend has one and I was gonna try and help him.. is it anything like unlocking and rooting the Galaxy S3? I cant find much on the process..
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Is it possible to root an AT&T Inspire 4G? My friend has one and I was gonna try and help him.. is it anything like unlocking and rooting the Galaxy S3? I cant find much on the process..
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Yes. If http://tau.shadowchild.nl/attn1/?p=88 applies read it. If not just use AAHK from the same site. I don't know anything about how the GS3 is unlocked. The link in my signature (to the thread in the DHD forums, which is the international variant of the same phone) will help.
Google play store has this one app for an easy root Samsung ordeal, I've seen it and was going to try and use it when I was thinking about getting a Samsung galaxy S
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Google play store has this one app for an easy root Samsung ordeal, I've seen it and was going to try and use it when I was thinking about getting a Samsung galaxy S
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Wrong forum.