I've been reading every thread about it out there but I simply can't get a straight answer out of anyone. I'm S-On currently and have already installed the update. Some people have said that it has worked from them yet others have said that it patches fr3vo which Revolutionary needs to work. So which is it? And if I can't do S-Off, is there a way to get my Sensation back to 2.3.3 to use revolutionary?
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If your hboot version supports it, then I say go for it.
Make sure you're S-OFF but have stock recovery before you update and you can run Revolutionary again.
Virtue94 said:
I've been reading every thread about it out there but I simply can't get a straight answer out of anyone. I'm S-On currently and have already installed the update. Some people have said that it has worked from them yet others have said that it patches fr3vo which Revolutionary needs to work. So which is it? And if I can't do S-Off, is there a way to get my Sensation back to 2.3.3 to use revolutionary?
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Flashing RUU would get you back, as I've seen boot images in the rom.zip of the RUU.
I dunno though if the RUU checks for higher versions or not..
I believe that you can s-off if the HBOOT you have is supported by revolutionary. Give it a try you're not losing anything.
i was 2.3.3 then updated to 2.3.4 ota. read around that u couldnt get s-off if u were s-on and got 2.3.4 update because of hboot.. i did it anyways no problems everything worked fine
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i was 2.3.3 then updated to 2.3.4 ota. read around that u couldnt get s-off if u were s-on and got 2.3.4 update because of hboot.. i did it anyways no problems everything worked fine
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Thanks so much for finally clarifying that. I'd thank you properly but I'm on the xda app right now. I'll do it in the morning.
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okay what is solution than for this: [Q] OTA update to Android 2.3.4 problem
redo to S-ON is qutely non cofortable :-(
thanx,
Ondrej
roul174 said:
okay what is solution than for this: [Q] OTA update to Android 2.3.4 problem
redo to S-ON is qutely non cofortable :-(
thanx,
Ondrej
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Don't thread jack please.
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I don't own an MT4G or Panache, but I started this thread for the inevitable arrival of Mobilicity & Videotron customers who would like to mod an HTC Panache. Once the MyTouch 4G Gingerbread update came out, it was found that the Fre3vo root exploit (originally found for the Sensation/Evo 3D) will also temp-root this phone. To get S-OFF you have to roll back to an old Froyo MT4G firmware - from there you can roll back forward to anything you want.
Differences between MT4G Gingerbread and Panache for the purpose of this thread:
- Panache requires a gold card because the ROM you roll back to comes from a different carrier.
- Your preferences in terms of what ROM to put on your phone after S-OFF may be different from T-Mobile customers - ergo, discuss here if this is an issue.
Thanks to jgobeil for posting the guide in post #98:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16858971&postcount=98
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Hi,
Now that the rooting guide for the Panache is completed and posted, may I suggest that you update the first post of the Panache thread to refer newcomers to this thread to post #98 where the guide is.
This will make it easy for these people and maybe avoid costly mistakes.
Best regards and thanks for your help.
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If Gingerbreak will work on it, that would be the only difference, instead rooting with Visionary+, they'll root with Gingerbreak and proceed with the same S-OFF guide, hopefully flashing engineering bootloader.
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If Gingerbreak will work on it, that would be the only difference, instead rooting with Visionary+, they'll root with Gingerbreak and proceed with the same S-OFF guide, hopefully flashing engineering bootloader.
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What is gingerbreak??? Is there a new rooting method called gingerbreak?
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cmstlist said:
I don't own an MT4G or Panache, but I thought I'd start this thread for the inevitable arrival of Mobilicity & Videotron customers who would like to mod an HTC Panache.
Since it has launched with Gingerbread, I am guessing the initial root steps will be a little different. If any MT4G devs have any idea what Panache users should try differently, post it here.
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Dude then why the hell did you start this if you don't own one? Stick to your own forum!
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Dude then why the hell did you start this if you don't own one? Stick to your own forum!
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Because I'm Canadian and using one of the new AWS carriers here, so I want to know as much as I can about the devices they release
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If Gingerbreak will work on it, that would be the only difference, instead rooting with Visionary+, they'll root with Gingerbreak and proceed with the same S-OFF guide, hopefully flashing engineering bootloader.
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There is someone else here on the forum who flashed the entire firmware of the Panache onto his MT4G and was unable to re-root with Gingerbreak even for temp root. Fortunately the user in question had Radio S-OFF so was eventually able to fix it. But this hints that Gingerbreak won't work.
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There is someone else here on the forum who flashed the entire firmware of the Panache onto his MT4G and was unable to re-root with Gingerbreak even for temp root. Fortunately the user in question had Radio S-OFF so was eventually able to fix it. But this hints that Gingerbreak won't work.
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That was me. And yes, none of the rooting methods out there will work on panache (including gingerbreak by SOC) firmware. I had to hboot-flash the stock 2.2.1 firmware and then was able to root.
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That was me. And yes, none of the rooting methods out there will work on panache (including gingerbreak by SOC) firmware. I had to hboot-flash the stock 2.2.1 firmware and then was able to root.
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Thanks for clarifying. Of course you had S-OFF and the Mobi/Vtron Panache comes S-ON. So this leaves an open question of what is the first step to root the Panache.
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That was me. And yes, none of the rooting methods out there will work on panache (including gingerbreak by SOC) firmware. I had to hboot-flash the stock 2.2.1 firmware and then was able to root.
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I just wanted to ask - you said you tried Gingerbreak and it didn't work. My question is, did you check if it at least provided you with temp root? Or it did nothing at all?
I got rooted. Just installed Rom manager to flash recovery and all is fine.
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I got rooted. Just installed Rom manager to flash recovery and all is fine.
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Could you explain all the steps you took to achieve this on the Panache?
I just read your thread and it looks like you actually had a MT4G running the Panache ROM. But was your phone already S-OFF? If so, that'd probably explain why Gingerbreak worked. Not sure that'd fly on a factory Installed Panache.
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Details on post I started, but its glacier used panache RUU.
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Yes it was s-off, but another user who did that could'nt root though he also was s-off
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I see. So it's still not clear what will or won't work with a factory S-ON Panache.
It's reported that Gingerbreak does not work with S-ON Panache, but what's unclear is whether it can still be used to achieve temp root. If it can, this suggests a way to force it to an earlier T-Mo RUU which will permit the use of the S-OFF kernel exploit.
as far i know, both are same hardware and you dont need s-off to use factory RUU. thus if i can use panache RUU regardless of s-off i can flash mytouch 4g RUU on panache.
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as far i know, both are same hardware and you dont need s-off to use factory RUU. thus if i can use panache RUU regardless of s-off i can flash mytouch 4g RUU on panache.
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You need at the very least temproot to edit the "misc" partition before flashing an older version bootloader RUU, otherwise it will reject it. Since it is not yet established that temproot works on factory S-ON Panache, there is no established way to downgrade the RUU. So there is still no clear pathway yet.
If you say so though I still think u dont need any sort of root for official RUU.exe
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An official RUU will fail, even with a gold card, if it's an older version than the current bootloader. All MT4G official firmwares are older than the Panache's. The only way around this is a root hack.
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cmstlist said:
An official RUU will fail, even with a gold card, if it's an older version than the current bootloader. All MT4G official firmwares are older than the Panache's. The only way around this is a root hack.
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ok i didnt know that, i thought its more like flashing a bios where it says u have this ver and willflash this
Okay so I see on the Mobilicity and Videotron Panache that it has peak speeds of 21 Mbps whereas the MT4G is 14.4, did they make a hardware change or is this in the firmware?
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I just wanted to ask - you said you tried Gingerbreak and it didn't work. My question is, did you check if it at least provided you with temp root? Or it did nothing at all?
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No, it didnt even temp root. As i said earlier i did not have a true s-off. I even tried flashing cwm through fastboot but bootloader didnt allow that (it should have if i had a true s-off).
Revolutionary has just been updated and now supports HBOOT 1.18.0000 (the one that gets installed with 2.3.4 OTA)! YAY!
http://www.revolutionary.io
I dont see where they mention they have updated their tool...
Atharon said:
I dont see where they mention they have updated their tool...
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http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/revolutionary
I keep hoping that someday they will support the legend with 1.01
yh well after OTA i still had root.. still was able to flash new recoverys and roms... thanks though.
I know double posting is bad but I writed my question in bad thread.
I've rooted my Sensation (1.18.000) but after that it's 1.17.1111 (not something like 1.18.1111) is this ok?
I'm a bit confused about this.
Yes, revolutionary installs a modified bootloader to give you permanent root.
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I was so glad when I saw this news - I had gone back to S-ON to get 2.3.4
Now I am 2.3.4 AND S-OFF
Happy Happy
Someone has the HBoot 1.18.0000 S-OFF revolutionary?
I can't find it.
Did you check their website:
http://revolutionary.io/
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Their site is currently down, but that is the url, so check back later.
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Site is now live again.
Francey said:
Someone has the HBoot 1.18.0000 S-OFF revolutionary?
I can't find it.
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on revolutionary site in new pre3 version its there at last scroll 1.18 srch
lalitsehgal21 said:
on revolutionary site in new pre3 version its there at last scroll 1.18 srch
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Actually its version 0.4 of pre3
Direct link:
http://revolutionary.io/revolutionary-0.4pre3.zip
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I see new version of Revolutionary, but i search the HBoot 1.18.0000 of Revolutionary.
Francey said:
I see new version of Revolutionary, but i search the HBoot 1.18.0000 of Revolutionary.
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There is only one zip for ALL supported phones and hboot versions! I posted the direct link above since you seem to be just a little confused. Here it is again:
http://revolutionary.io/revolutionary-0.4pre3.zip
Yes I understand but I look for someone who has installed the latest update from HTC and then used Revolutionary, so he can make a copy of HBoot 1.18.0000
Here
Download also contains radio and other firmware updates, just extract the hboot and do with it what you will. BTW once you run revolutionary that hboot gets replaced by the hacked revolutionary hboot so getting it from a device that ran revo is pointless!
Thanks but i search the hacked revolutionary hboot not official.
Just run revolutionary then, cause you aren't making sense to me. It seems like you are making this too complicated. I guess I can't help you.
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Just run revolutionary then, cause you aren't making sense to me. It seems like you are making this too complicated. I guess I can't help you.
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He wants someone who ran the revolutionary exploit on the latest hboot to make a copy for him to flash.
But iirc, the latest revolutionary downgrades you back to 1.17 so trying to get a 1.18 is futile.
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geoffcorey said:
He wants someone who ran the revolutionary exploit on the latest hboot to make a copy for him to flash.
But iirc, the latest revolutionary downgrades you back to 1.17 so trying to get a 1.18 is futile.
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That is exactly what I said already in Post #9, lol
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That is exactly what I said already in Post #9, lol
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It's know that I quoted you, but it wasn't all directed at you. Part of it was telling op what he was asking made no sense in a clearer way since it seems English isn't his/her first language.
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whats difference between 1.17 and 1.18?
Actually I've got S-Off and Hboot 1.18 and if someone tells me how to extract it I would do it but I don't know how to do
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You must have flashed the update after you got s-off which is fine but then you'll be missing out because fastboot cmds are not enabled in the stock hboot.
So there's no option to have hacked HBOOT 1.18.0000/1.18.1111 with revoultionary? Only option is downgrade to 1.17.1111?
You can S-Off it on 2.3.3 and update it OTA. I think it's the only way right now
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LLLeeo said:
You can S-Off it on 2.3.3 and update it OTA. I think it's the only way right now
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Is this safe? Any info about differences in 1.18 / 1.17?
Btw my phone is sent to HTC because I did some mistake and bricked it.
When it will be back with OTA 2.3.4 then downgrade to 2.3.3 -> S-OFF -> upgrade 2.3.4? It will be safe?
I came from a mytouch 4g recently.
I already had adb setup for my mytouch 4g.
Do I need to install or do anything for it to work for my sensation?
Or am I good to go?
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mftek said:
I came from a mytouch 4g recently.
I already had adb setup for my mytouch 4g.
Do I need to install or do anything for it to work for my sensation?
Or am I good to go?
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Nope you are good to go. Flash away and have fun! Just make sure to read all the prerequisites prior to flashing, especially for the ICS.
For ICS:
Basically you need to of course, then, unlock, NANDROID, superCID, update firmware, don't revert back the hboot to 1.17 and use a super wipe script, wipe all old data and flash your rom.
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Nope you are good to go. Flash away and have fun! Just make sure to read all the prerequisites prior to flashing, especially for the ICS.
For ICS:
Basically you need to of course, then, unlock, NANDROID, superCID, update firmware, don't revert back the hboot to 1.17 and use a super wipe script, wipe all old data and flash your rom.
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Thanks bro
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kpjimmy said:
, don't revert back the hboot to 1.17 and use a super wipe script, wipe all old data and flash your rom.
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what will happen when revert to hboot 1.17
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namila007 said:
what will happen when revert to hboot 1.17
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If you upgrade with the latest firmware (hboot 1.23), the newer roms will not boot up from hboot 1.17. Unless someone came across a fix.
And also keep in mind the hboot under 1.23 will say "LOCKED" but don't worry. You are still rooted.
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If you upgrade with the latest firmware (hboot 1.23), the newer roms will not boot up from hboot 1.17. Unless someone came across a fix.
And also keep in mind the hboot under 1.23 will say "LOCKED" but don't worry. You are still rooted.
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ah.thanks.. im on new firmware.but i got hboot 1.23 and its '**unlocked**'.how could this possible.
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I'm not familiar with super CID coming from the Mytouch4G, how many of you did it when you rooted? I'm rooting my Sensation 4G as I type this.
i did and you should do the same cause in the future will be very useful
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i did and you should do the same cause in the future will be very useful
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+1 why not do it when you have the chance. I've not seen any downside so far.
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+1 why not do it when you have the chance. I've not seen any downside so far.
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for example if you want to install ICS fw you need to be supercided
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i did and you should do the same cause in the future will be very useful
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I don't have to do it at this time right? I could always choose to do it later correct? The reason I ask is because I read that you would not be able to receive any OTA updates HTC pushes out.
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I don't have to do it at this time right? I could always choose to do it later correct? The reason I ask is because I read that you would not be able to receive any OTA updates HTC pushes out.
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well if you don't want to install ics custom rom you don't have to but if you want you have anyway there are ics fw that can be installed without supercid but imo it is better to supercid
edit: and if you supercid you can revert it back....however if you have rooted the phone you can't receive OTA, or better you can but it will brick your phone
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well if you don't want to install ics custom rom you don't have to but if you want you have anyway there are ics fw that can be installed without supercid but imo it is better to supercid
edit: and if you supercid you can revert it back....however if you have rooted the phone you can't receive OTA, or better you can but it will brick your phone
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So receiving an OTA on a rooted phone will brick the phone? Well that's good info to know lol. Thanks matt95
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So receiving an OTA on a rooted phone will brick the phone? Well that's good info to know lol. Thanks matt95
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yes man before getting the ota you MUST flash the stock htc RUU which you can find in the development forum
Almost everyone does SuperCID after rooting.
After Rooting, I didn't though. I just S-Offed. A week later, I realized I had to SuperCID to get some ROMs to work. So I did it and never regretted.
Go for it.
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I'm not familiar with super CID coming from the Mytouch4G, how many of you did it when you rooted? I'm rooting my Sensation 4G as I type this.
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Always sper cid for safe side. If you change to supre cid will be very useful no need to worry.
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I also did not super CID right away, but for a lot of ROM it is necessary so eventually I had to do it and never regreted it so far...
yup really helpful I did
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I have done the supercid
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what exactly did I miss?
I have not needed supercid, I simply s-off'd and not needed any such thing.
I have updated the fw and I'm running Virtuous Inquisition ICS rom, no problems?
I really don't understand why you'd want to change the CID or how it affects ROMS
You don't have to supercid, but it might be handy at some point. It will allow you to flash any ruu shall you ever need it.
Sent throught the wormhole from my CoinInserted Sensation OG.
There are no downsides. I did it as soon as I got my Sensation.
I bought my sensation pre rooted, I have latest firmware and am runnin a 4.0.3. Rom, so does this mean the guy used superCID or whatever
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Well I must say Im glad I went supercid
I think I saved me a super headache when I got stuck in a bootloop from flasing a ICS the wrong way whatever I did wrong I was able to find a stock RUU in no time thanks y'all.
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if your not branded,
you will almost never have to supercid for a custom rom to install.
but for example if a firmware update is mandatory, you might depending on your cid/mid.
i own a xe device and never supercid it, can install anything without problems. (dont always) believe what people say, but always check the description on the base of your own cid/mid yourself.
that said,it cant hurt to supercid, but if its not mandatory why?
+1 Me too
+1 I've supercid as well, changed a few times back to orginal CID because of warranty without problem.