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So about 6 months to a year about I hear about a new concept for gaming called onlive. Its a consoleless based cloud gaming system using high end specific servers to run your game and then broadcast the graphics via video online. The possiblitlies would be endless but thats alot to ask and almsot not possible. Well 6 months pass and I see a new article saying they are offering an Alpha release deal with ATnT wherer Atnt pays your script 4.99 a month, for a year, and you pay after that. So I signed up figuring AtnT would be picking up the bill. So far you can choose from Mac or PC versions of the app. The app is around .5MB. So tonight I come home and low nad behold theirs and invite. They said they are gonna do em in waves as the system allows it. So I sign up and download it on my PC and let me say I was throughly impressed. Their is about 1/8th a second lag that I can see but the graphics are just under a ps3 or equal to. Sound on my PC stuttered a lil bit and it would drop a frame every now and again but it was definately playable. They have like 11 games now to choose from from major developers and whats cool is you can rent games for a couple days for like $4. Or you can buy them for more, but every game gets 30 minutes demo time. So you can play every game 30 mintues to try before you buy. So I played around with it and was blown away. It definately has a couple bugs but its more then playable and the graphics are great. Oh yah you have ot be wired right now to use it. THey aren't doing wireless yet. So here goes the real test. I whip out my Asus 1000HE netbook with 2GB ram and 1.6ghz atom cpu. Load up onlive and install it. Ran a game and it looked identical to my PC or PS3. It was freaking amazing!!!! Actually it ran way better on my netbook. Less dropped frames, sound was crystal clear, lag seemed a bit less. It was aboslutly amazing. I'll try to make oyu guys some video's to watch. But if it ran so good on my 1.6GHZ atom, I can only imagine it could run awesome on my HD2!.Check it out and sign up for the free year promotion. You'll be absolutely blow away and will definatelly see this in a phone soon. It could easily be done.
PS Im so amazed I'm gonna look into buying stock in this company.
Hey guys,
I work for staples in NJ, and just got some bleak news regarding the future of the G Tablet. We were just sent a notice by our warehouse/corperate that read the following:
Due to manufacturer defect, all quantities of the Viewsonic G Tablet are to be pulled from store stock and returned via RTV.
Sounds like one less place for people to pick these up.
On the bright side (those of you that need these for christmas), Amazon.com has the tablet for the MSRP ($399.99)... PLUS free super saver shipping!!
I'll keep you guys posted if we hear anymore. Our store only sold one, and it was to myself!! LOL
That's sad. I got one for my Dad, who's in his 70's and has never touched a computer. All his grandkids are on Facebook which works perfectly AFAIK, so this device is a dream for him.
I added Getjar, and installed Angry Birds, Flash, Opera, Amazon app, Amazon MP3 and IMDB. I doubt he'll use much more than that. He's not interested in staring at a screen all day.
At power up it crashed on everything, even the patch. But after rebooting, it patched itself and has been rock solid ever since. I was going to flash it with a ROM if required, but there is no need. It really is perfect for him (and will only get better with system updates). A good web browser that does Facebook and Email too.
People complain about the speed, but it seems to be at least as fast as my Galaxy S or Nexus One.
If I'd bought it for myself, I'd have it doing backflips by now. But for my Dad, it's already going to be alot for him to obsorb as-is.
What is the defect?
If a manufacturers defect and originated by VS information, the Gtablet could become very scarce.
There are several out of box issues that warrant this- even ours is still "broken" due to the accelerometer, bluetooth and other issues known already.
If not initiated by VS, Staples then are already pushing product back to Viewsonic. Though not unexpected at all, this is bad and no way to spin it.
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Question is how long before VS themselves may consider pulling the plug? If the Gtablet CS line goes away, THAT will give us the answer. Seems VS would be better served giving our XDA Three Amigos the source and pay THEM to release a package. Word.
The defect could firmware based (like what happened to the Pandigital Novel). Let's hope that's all it is.
I suspect the "defect" just refers to the fact that they observed a very high return rate, *****ed to Viewsonic about it, Viewsonic shrugged their shoulders and said they're working on it, so Staples pulled the product.
Specifically, the lack of Flash which was advertised, the lagginess and tendency to crash of the product out of the box could both be considered defects in this context. I mean, honestly, if you have to install third party ROMs to make a product useful, yeah, it is basically defective.
Still, I'd like to see Viewsonic and Tap N Tap get their act together, release source code, update their shipping drivers and make things work better out of the box. It would be good for the longevity and availability of updates of our G Tablets.
Hope to hear more from VS on this. Indeed hope its nothing more than crap firmware which drove high rates of returns to Staples and prompted them to shove it all back on VS. If that is the case then maybe Staples actually helped our cause. VS is going to definitely take notice of issues if one of their major distributors balks.
VS had what could have been the budget iPad killer this holiday season. They screwed it all up by using the low budget LCD and pushing it out the door with some broken firmware. Imagine how different the reviews and word of mouth would have been if only this thing had a slightly better display and no half baked TnT. Instead of cleaning up, they are left to mop up a half hearted attempt at a product release.
When did Amazon start selling them? I don't recall it being available from Amazon before - actually Amazon and not an affiliate.
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If a manufacturers defect and originated by VS information, the Gtablet could become very scarce.
There are several out of box issues that warrant this- even ours is still "broken" due to the accelerometer, bluetooth and other issues known already.
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Whats wrong with the accelerometer and bluetooth?
Lnin0 said:
VS had what could have been the budget iPad killer this holiday season. They screwed it all up by using the low budget LCD and pushing it out the door with some broken firmware.
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As Lord Scrumptious said to Caractaus Potts in "Chitty Chitty Bang Bang (1968)" - "Had your chance; muffed it"....
But, even though our hero is down, he's not out yet (queue Dec. 19th)....
(Sorry, my kids pulled out our Chitty Chitty Bang Band DVD to watch this holiday season and I just love that line. IMHO, its the best delivered line in the movie - but there are others that come close....)
shanghei said:
Whats wrong with the accelerometer and bluetooth?
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Not oriented correctly and bluetooth will not work with input devices (due to Tap UI).
markgolly said:
As Lord Scrumptious said to Caractaus Potts in "Chitty Chitty Bang Bang (1968)" - "Had your chance; muffed it"....
But, even though our hero is down, he's not out yet (queue Dec. 19th)....
(Sorry, my kids pulled out our Chitty Chitty Bang Band DVD to watch this holiday season and I just love that line. IMHO, its the best delivered line in the movie - but there are others that come close....)
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What happens December 19th
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Not oriented correctly and bluetooth will not work with input devices (due to Tap UI).
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Is that why when I open gallery the gallery folders only tilt to one side?
markgolly said:
As Lord Scrumptious said to Caractaus Potts in "Chitty Chitty Bang Bang (1968)" - "Had your chance; muffed it"....
But, even though our hero is down, he's not out yet (queue Dec. 19th)....
(Sorry, my kids pulled out our Chitty Chitty Bang Band DVD to watch this holiday season and I just love that line. IMHO, its the best delivered line in the movie - but there are others that come close....)
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DV's awful cockney accent is pure (unintended) comic gold
Shame they can't get it together. Reflashed and except for the little things (sound and external SD) I use it more than the iPad.
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Time will tell.......
but hopefully flash with the stock TnT rom.
If they are recalling them it's for the crappy OS.... Ive had my Tab for over a month now and it only gets better....
With the Vegan beta 3 this thing has been rock solid...
Ya, a few FC's here and there and some quirks, but what computer doesnt have quirks...
In 30 days with the help of the amazing folks on this forum, the G tab will be rock solid...
I did a "throwdown" with a friend with an iPad and the G tab smoked him in the end... Yes, iPad a little more refined and stable, but for getting down and dirty the Gtab was clearly on top...
90% of the iPad apps are crap...
Sears and several others on line still have the Gtab for sale...
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DV's awful cockney accent is pure (unintended) comic gold
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Definitely!
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... and couldn't both of these be fixed in software?
This thing is fast enough to play x264, I cant wait for it to be fully able to be taken advantage of its specs.
markgolly said:
As Lord Scrumptious said to Caractaus Potts in "Chitty Chitty Bang Bang (1968)" - "Had your chance; muffed it"....
But, even though our hero is down, he's not out yet (queue Dec. 19th)....
(Sorry, my kids pulled out our Chitty Chitty Bang Band DVD to watch this holiday season and I just love that line. IMHO, its the best delivered line in the movie - but there are others that come close....)
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I love you - chitty chitty bang bang, that is.......
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Hello everyone,
Need your help folks.
I need a tablet for my 9 years old boy, and I am a newbie.....
I thought about either Asus Transformer or Galaxy 10'
- fast browser with flash, youtube, facebook
- skype with video
- avi, mp4 etc playback ( I dont want to convert files, I want to play them stright
after downloading)
- easy data transfer from my PC
- GPS navigation (copilot, igo etc) without using data
- some games working like : moshi monsters and android stuff (I ve got Galaxy 2)
Do I need a custom ROM for all above option?
Please share your thoughts, I ve got 2 weeks to make the decision.
Thank you for your help
Tough question
I guess the answer is; It depends.
The sturdiness of the construction should be a certain plus considering how a 9 year old may handle it. ASUS are good about upgrading so even if you don't root it you might not need to wait much for upgrades.
If he is going to use it for school work the keyboard/dock would be a HUGE advantage since it also has a card reader in the dock so he can backup any work or transfer to main computer with ease.
The drawback would be the price especially considering possible longevity in the hands of a 9 year old (one lucky 9 year old).
If it's good for a 30+ year old boy, i reckon it will be GREAT for a 9 year old boy
- fast browser with flash, youtube, facebook
Use alternative stock browser (dolphin for tab is good)
- skype with video
- avi, mp4 etc playback ( I dont want to convert files, I want to play them stright
after downloading)
Use moboplayer or mx player
- easy data transfer from my PC
Use software data cable
- GPS navigation (copilot, igo etc) without using data
- some games working like : moshi monsters and android stuff (I ve got Galaxy 2)
All previous android games will run on tablet although not all will perform great if not optimized considering tablet 1280x800 rez (yeah im looking at you star blizt)
You may want to give a 7" tab as a test run just to be safe.
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Are you sure?!?
Btw if my 2.5 yo son fights with me to play with it, 9 yo will be crazy about it for sure
9 year old daughter uses it all the time. Plays games mostly. 4 year old son also plays games on it. Real question is not age though, but rather maturity level of said child. My daughter has has a PSP since she was 2 and son got one this year. Both have rules to follow when using these asnd other devices (computer, game consoles, etc). Set those rules first and you sxhouild be good.
P.s. its also good for you to be familiar with the devices they use.... so you know how to restric access, fix, and otherwise maintain these devices.....
I bought an Acer Iconia because I could not find the Transformer. I picked up the Transformer about 2 months ago and gave my 9 year old daughter the Iconia and she has been doing great with it. SHe is taking pictures, videos, and playing games.
IMO the 7" form factor would work better for hands that size. If you do get one for a 9-year-old, I would suggest a screen protector and bumper-style case.
My son is 8 and he uses it all the time. He is mostly playing games and sometimes watching TV. He loves the transformer dearly.
My 7yr old nephew came over w/ family for dinner last week. His mom brought the ipad. i let him use my Trnsfrmr and he liked it. Upon handing it to him, he went to Market and downloaded some games even I didnt know about. Alot were available on Appstore so he knew what he was looking for. Some of them worked with the Playstation 3 controller. After playing Youtube videos that were driving me crazy, he had to go and didnt want to put it down! Put a case and a screen protector on it and your 9yr old should be fine.
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I have three tablets, a Gtab, a TF and an Ipad. When I chase my 8 year old off of one he sneeks aroundand starts playing games on of the others. He prefers the tablets over a pc now. Be sure to limit access to the market!
Am I the only person in this thread who is fascinated that no one has brought up that there is a debate whether or not a 9 year old should have a tablet as a full-time device?
The majority of this thread is about letting a child use their tablet part-time. But OP's idea is to give a CHILD a tablet. Just so confused on what this world is turning into. Investing a $300+ device for a 9-year old.
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The majority of this thread is about letting a child use their tablet part-time. But OP's idea is to give a CHILD a tablet. Just so confused on what this world is turning into. Investing a $300+ device for a 9-year old.
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Why not? If you have the money of course and he/she is reponsible enough to not be playing 12h a day. Better if they learn technology quickly so they are not behind.
^ I think you are.
And don't worry, in say 10 yrs or so, people will be talking about giving a child more than just a tablet, like a high-tech helmet that serves as a media player all in one.
The Transformer is good for any age. It comes down to the fact of getting a 9 year old a tablet, or anything of this value. like zephiK said. $400 is kinda steep for something that may be thrown around, banged around, dropped, etc. The ViewSonic GTab is only $350(?) and while it isn't that much better than $400, the 50 that you save and probably go to a accidental damage insurance/warranty.
I wish my parents would think of giving me something that cost over $100. If I wanted anything over that, I had to chip in at least 25% or wait til Christmas/birthday and that would be my only present from them
They are both veyr good to use for kids..
Unless he needs the keyboard dock I think a Nook color for $250 is a better choice for a child. The 7" is a better size for small hands. It is a a nice piece of hardware with a beautiful IPS screen. You can easily root and flash a custom rom to turn it into a fully functional Android tablet
marcmarshall said:
Unless he needs the keyboard dock I think a Nook color for $250 is a better choice for a child. The 7" is a better size for small hands. It is a a nice piece of hardware with a beautiful IPS screen. You can easily root and flash a custom rom to turn it into a fully functional Android tablet
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+1 to this. Of course with it's 7" screen, it can be a ereader once he starts reading more for school and fun. Since he will probably only be using it to play games, watch movies, and maybe go on some websites, the Nook's hardware is perfect for that. No need to pay for the Tegra 2's hardware when he probably won't need it
EDIT: I was in Staples today, and saw that the Dell Streak is only $250 or $299. It would definitely need to be rooted and run a custom rom, because the stock on the Streak is crappy. If I were you, I'd choose between the Nook Color and Dell Streak. The Streak would probably be worth it in the long run, as it won't become outdated as fast. Too me the TF is a serious decision, unless you're absolutely sure. (I'm basing the seriousness off of what I've seen kids around his age do..)
we have 3 of them in our household now. My 9 year old daughter used her birthday money to buy one, with help from mom and dad, and my 13 year old daughter just did the same this week for her birthday.
Depends on the child...
Like I said in the title "Depends on the child". I personally wouldn't buy my 14 year old girl one because she's broken 3 high dollar cell phones in a little over a year. I'd buy both my boys one in a heartbeat. My 7 and 3 year old sons both share my nook color and treat it like gold. At 9 I'd look at the new Acer 7 inch tablet. I almost wish I'd have waited for that myself (my 7 inch nook always fit great in my my work slacks or loose jeans) but I like the nice big screen on the Transformer for watching movies in bed (great for those nights when my 3 year old sneaks into ed with my wife and I and won't go to sleep. Thomas and Friends to the rescue). Think about a few things such as the maturity of the child, form factor (what's the size most suited to her), cost and manufacturer support (Asus hands down has the best support, ie. updates)
Kids love choices so pick two or three options and let her choose what she wants out of those. Ristrict Market and internet access as well. Too much crap out there nowadays that children have no business looking at. And finally for the love of everything holy do not break down and give her an iPad....just don't. Its our duty as parents to lovingly guide them down the righht path. And if lovingly doesn't work then bribe generously.
Most of us her root our phones to suck every last bit of potential out of them.
I'm curious if most of us 'root' the rest of our lives fro the same reason as well.
For example, I pulled the stock intake out of my car and put in a high flow intake system. I don't race or even drive like a maniac, just like I don't use my rooted phone to do too much more than make phone calls and browse the web. I just like that I can make my car a little more fuel efficient and get a little more power for acceleration when I need it.
Back to phone, I did the silicone mod to the Sensation to keep the dust out because waiting for it to get bad and need a replacement seemed like a dumb plan.
My computer....Linux OS. (I'm sure a good number of us do that one, but damn you Dell and you proprietary wifi drivers that take hours to hack to get working!)
I put a double blade on my mulching lawnmower so it mulches twice as well in half the time.
I couldn't survive without my Logitech Harmony remote for my entertainment system, the one that lets you flash custom button mapping and macros to the remote so single button presses turn on the TV, DVD player, and switch the stereo from Cable to DVD while turning off the DVD player. (Seriously....I could not live without this.)
I have a custom designed Windows 2000 based computer in my car running better GPS software on a 7 inch monitor than you can get in the newest Garmin device. Also runs my music and car diagnosis with an OBII interface into the car's main engine management computer. All with easy and safe to use touchscreen design in front of the shifter. (Emphasis on safe to use) And it looks like it came out of the factory with this computer installed, thank you very much.
You know...this kind of stuff.
So do other people hack everything in their lives? Or just the phone?
Oh yeah, with cars I do it so much more. Aftermarket parts is what I spend a lot of money on, for example this week, I've brought a whole new receiver and headunit for my Ford Explorer, changed all four speakers, bypassed the factory amp and now I have much better sound with more quality bass.
I also had a manual transmission VW Jetta, there was something called the swiss cheese mod, where you cut holes into the intake box so the air filter/intake sucks in more air and gives it an more louder/meaner sound while accelerating.
I've had my fair share of mods, can't remember all, but mostly with cars though. Getting them out of manufacturer specs and taking it to an whole another level.
You sound like my kinda guys. My philosophy is "if you can make it better, what's stopping you?"
Vw gti '05.
Revo Stg 2
Koni coils
Forge 007p
Bbs rc's
Euro speed IC
Cuban-made 3" DP to 2.5" system. Worked and sounded perfect. Great shop
Sold it.
S14 240sx '95
Used tiens (moar low. Didn't care for the brand at the time)
Greddy 3" full back.
Sr20det blacktop t25
Sfac
Godspeed IC
Crashed into a battle tank of a M37. Man ran a stop sign. I'm going 30 and he leaves me with 20 feet to stop. I spun his car out in a perfect 90 when I hit his driver rear quarter panel. My car? Totaled. His car? A scratch around his fender. And he drove away when he got the ticket.
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PanCubano said:
Vw gti '05.
Revo Stg 2
Koni coils
Forge 007p
Bbs rc's
Euro speed IC
Cuban-made 3" DP to 2.5" system. Worked and sounded perfect. Great shop
Sold it.
S14 240sx '95
Used tiens (moar low. Didn't care for the brand at the time)
Greddy 3" full back.
Sr20det blacktop t25
Sfac
Godspeed IC
Crashed into a battle tank of a M37. Man ran a stop sign. I'm going 30 and he leaves me with 20 feet to stop. I spun his car out in a perfect 90 when I hit his driver rear quarter panel. My car? Totaled. His car? A scratch around his fender. And he drove away when he got the ticket.
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VW gti '05, what model? Jetta? Golf? Polo? Lupo?
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sshede said:
You sound like my kinda guys. My philosophy is "if you can make it better, what's stopping you?"
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I like the way you think.
OllieArmageddon said:
VW gti '05, what model? Jetta? Golf? Polo? Lupo?
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GTi = Golf GTi. Generally a sports edition of the platform.
I do the same, mostly with cars. I engine swapped my s10 with a Camaro 350 with cams and big carb, turbo 350 trans, 5 gallon race cell. It was a mean street truck. '87
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You sound like my kinda guys. My philosophy is "if you can make it better, what's stopping you?"
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Money. Takes a good lot of time to pile up for some people
rooting is our life ... joke ...
Naturally! I like to "root" around the house mostly. Make stuff myself instead of hiring people to do it poorly
sshede said:
You sound like my kinda guys. My philosophy is "if you can make it better, what's stopping you?"
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Unfortunately, as anyone who likes to flash ROM's knows....if you can make it better, tomorrow you can make it even ore better, and even better still the next day....and so on and so forth.
There does come a time when I feel like I spend more time tweaking / building / modifying things than I ever spend actually using them.
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Oh yeah, with cars I do it so much more. Aftermarket parts is what I spend a lot of money on, for example this week, I've brought a whole new receiver and headunit for my Ford Explorer, changed all four speakers, bypassed the factory amp and now I have much better sound with more quality bass.
I also had a manual transmission VW Jetta, there was something called the swiss cheese mod, where you cut holes into the intake box so the air filter/intake sucks in more air and gives it an more louder/meaner sound while accelerating.
I've had my fair share of mods, can't remember all, but mostly with cars though. Getting them out of manufacturer specs and taking it to an whole another level.
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do u mind giving us the source from which u get the info for all these car mods?
alireza_simkesh said:
do u mind giving us the source from which u get the info for all these car mods?
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Vwvortex.com for VW's.
If your car isn't slammed, don't post it.
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cars, computers, phones, video game systems, you name it im modding lol
I just modded my dresser drawers. They didnt slide smoothly enough.
I swear I has never used any product as intended by the manufacturer!
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Vwvortex.com for VW's.
If your car isn't slammed, don't post it.
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Haha, when I had my 2.0 Jetta MKV, I was dying to have mine, look like some on JettaJunkies.
Other than that, I'm disappointed in Logitech for dropping support the Google TV Revue, and not letting devs unlock the bootloader.
Works incredibly well on my device. Controls could a bit of work and that price is pretty steep, otherwise a great game.
http://www.theandroidarcade.com/news/ea-releases-mass-effect-infiltrator-envy-ios-users/
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Works incredibly well on my device. Controls could a bit of work and that price is pretty steep, otherwise a great game.
http://www.theandroidarcade.com/news/ea-releases-mass-effect-infiltrator-envy-ios-users/
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It's $7 for a pretty big triple A title. It's not some silly puzzle game but something that took a whole lot of effort and people to code and texture and animate. $7 is a good price for this game since it's a lot better then those 99 cent piece of crap games
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Not everyone can decide whether a $7 games is worth it under 15 minute
That's true 7 dollars is expensive for merely maybe 2 or 3 hours of gameplay
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Runs silky smooth and the gameplay is completely different from any other fps on the android I have seen so far. Graphics are top notch and the weapons/skill upgrades are the icing on the cake.
Not to mention the mass effect story lines are always good. I think its worth the 7$
Pin it to Win it.
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That's true 7 dollars is expensive for merely maybe 2 or 3 hours of gameplay
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I always look at it a little differently, I see it as entertainment, and I look at what two+ hours of entertainment in other options would cost... console games? 50+ dollars plus the cost of owning a console, concert? 50-100+ dollars... even a movie at the theater is 12 dollars without food and drinks.
Karala said:
I always look at it a little differently, I see it as entertainment, and I look at what two+ hours of entertainment in other options would cost... console games? 50+ dollars plus the cost of owning a console, concert? 50-100+ dollars... even a movie at the theater is 12 dollars without food and drinks.
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+1
Well put. Besides after you buy the game once you own it forever on every phone you use/own in the future. "Cross platform " sort of thing thanks to Google for that one
Pin it to Win it.
Apktop here I come!!
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Is it seriously better than the first one ?