Hello everyone,
Need your help folks.
I need a tablet for my 9 years old boy, and I am a newbie.....
I thought about either Asus Transformer or Galaxy 10'
- fast browser with flash, youtube, facebook
- skype with video
- avi, mp4 etc playback ( I dont want to convert files, I want to play them stright
after downloading)
- easy data transfer from my PC
- GPS navigation (copilot, igo etc) without using data
- some games working like : moshi monsters and android stuff (I ve got Galaxy 2)
Do I need a custom ROM for all above option?
Please share your thoughts, I ve got 2 weeks to make the decision.
Thank you for your help
Tough question
I guess the answer is; It depends.
The sturdiness of the construction should be a certain plus considering how a 9 year old may handle it. ASUS are good about upgrading so even if you don't root it you might not need to wait much for upgrades.
If he is going to use it for school work the keyboard/dock would be a HUGE advantage since it also has a card reader in the dock so he can backup any work or transfer to main computer with ease.
The drawback would be the price especially considering possible longevity in the hands of a 9 year old (one lucky 9 year old).
If it's good for a 30+ year old boy, i reckon it will be GREAT for a 9 year old boy
- fast browser with flash, youtube, facebook
Use alternative stock browser (dolphin for tab is good)
- skype with video
- avi, mp4 etc playback ( I dont want to convert files, I want to play them stright
after downloading)
Use moboplayer or mx player
- easy data transfer from my PC
Use software data cable
- GPS navigation (copilot, igo etc) without using data
- some games working like : moshi monsters and android stuff (I ve got Galaxy 2)
All previous android games will run on tablet although not all will perform great if not optimized considering tablet 1280x800 rez (yeah im looking at you star blizt)
You may want to give a 7" tab as a test run just to be safe.
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Are you sure?!?
Btw if my 2.5 yo son fights with me to play with it, 9 yo will be crazy about it for sure
9 year old daughter uses it all the time. Plays games mostly. 4 year old son also plays games on it. Real question is not age though, but rather maturity level of said child. My daughter has has a PSP since she was 2 and son got one this year. Both have rules to follow when using these asnd other devices (computer, game consoles, etc). Set those rules first and you sxhouild be good.
P.s. its also good for you to be familiar with the devices they use.... so you know how to restric access, fix, and otherwise maintain these devices.....
I bought an Acer Iconia because I could not find the Transformer. I picked up the Transformer about 2 months ago and gave my 9 year old daughter the Iconia and she has been doing great with it. SHe is taking pictures, videos, and playing games.
IMO the 7" form factor would work better for hands that size. If you do get one for a 9-year-old, I would suggest a screen protector and bumper-style case.
My son is 8 and he uses it all the time. He is mostly playing games and sometimes watching TV. He loves the transformer dearly.
My 7yr old nephew came over w/ family for dinner last week. His mom brought the ipad. i let him use my Trnsfrmr and he liked it. Upon handing it to him, he went to Market and downloaded some games even I didnt know about. Alot were available on Appstore so he knew what he was looking for. Some of them worked with the Playstation 3 controller. After playing Youtube videos that were driving me crazy, he had to go and didnt want to put it down! Put a case and a screen protector on it and your 9yr old should be fine.
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I have three tablets, a Gtab, a TF and an Ipad. When I chase my 8 year old off of one he sneeks aroundand starts playing games on of the others. He prefers the tablets over a pc now. Be sure to limit access to the market!
Am I the only person in this thread who is fascinated that no one has brought up that there is a debate whether or not a 9 year old should have a tablet as a full-time device?
The majority of this thread is about letting a child use their tablet part-time. But OP's idea is to give a CHILD a tablet. Just so confused on what this world is turning into. Investing a $300+ device for a 9-year old.
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The majority of this thread is about letting a child use their tablet part-time. But OP's idea is to give a CHILD a tablet. Just so confused on what this world is turning into. Investing a $300+ device for a 9-year old.
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Why not? If you have the money of course and he/she is reponsible enough to not be playing 12h a day. Better if they learn technology quickly so they are not behind.
^ I think you are.
And don't worry, in say 10 yrs or so, people will be talking about giving a child more than just a tablet, like a high-tech helmet that serves as a media player all in one.
The Transformer is good for any age. It comes down to the fact of getting a 9 year old a tablet, or anything of this value. like zephiK said. $400 is kinda steep for something that may be thrown around, banged around, dropped, etc. The ViewSonic GTab is only $350(?) and while it isn't that much better than $400, the 50 that you save and probably go to a accidental damage insurance/warranty.
I wish my parents would think of giving me something that cost over $100. If I wanted anything over that, I had to chip in at least 25% or wait til Christmas/birthday and that would be my only present from them
They are both veyr good to use for kids..
Unless he needs the keyboard dock I think a Nook color for $250 is a better choice for a child. The 7" is a better size for small hands. It is a a nice piece of hardware with a beautiful IPS screen. You can easily root and flash a custom rom to turn it into a fully functional Android tablet
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Unless he needs the keyboard dock I think a Nook color for $250 is a better choice for a child. The 7" is a better size for small hands. It is a a nice piece of hardware with a beautiful IPS screen. You can easily root and flash a custom rom to turn it into a fully functional Android tablet
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+1 to this. Of course with it's 7" screen, it can be a ereader once he starts reading more for school and fun. Since he will probably only be using it to play games, watch movies, and maybe go on some websites, the Nook's hardware is perfect for that. No need to pay for the Tegra 2's hardware when he probably won't need it
EDIT: I was in Staples today, and saw that the Dell Streak is only $250 or $299. It would definitely need to be rooted and run a custom rom, because the stock on the Streak is crappy. If I were you, I'd choose between the Nook Color and Dell Streak. The Streak would probably be worth it in the long run, as it won't become outdated as fast. Too me the TF is a serious decision, unless you're absolutely sure. (I'm basing the seriousness off of what I've seen kids around his age do..)
we have 3 of them in our household now. My 9 year old daughter used her birthday money to buy one, with help from mom and dad, and my 13 year old daughter just did the same this week for her birthday.
Depends on the child...
Like I said in the title "Depends on the child". I personally wouldn't buy my 14 year old girl one because she's broken 3 high dollar cell phones in a little over a year. I'd buy both my boys one in a heartbeat. My 7 and 3 year old sons both share my nook color and treat it like gold. At 9 I'd look at the new Acer 7 inch tablet. I almost wish I'd have waited for that myself (my 7 inch nook always fit great in my my work slacks or loose jeans) but I like the nice big screen on the Transformer for watching movies in bed (great for those nights when my 3 year old sneaks into ed with my wife and I and won't go to sleep. Thomas and Friends to the rescue). Think about a few things such as the maturity of the child, form factor (what's the size most suited to her), cost and manufacturer support (Asus hands down has the best support, ie. updates)
Kids love choices so pick two or three options and let her choose what she wants out of those. Ristrict Market and internet access as well. Too much crap out there nowadays that children have no business looking at. And finally for the love of everything holy do not break down and give her an iPad....just don't. Its our duty as parents to lovingly guide them down the righht path. And if lovingly doesn't work then bribe generously.
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I'm about to buy my first tablet device and have the option of buying either the ipad or the viewsonic g-tab. Originally what i was going to do was buy the ipad and then sell it once a honeycomb tablet is released, but that changed after i read about the G-tab on here.
The number one reason for me wanting the ipad is the quality of the tablet optimized apps. Yes i know the android apps scale up nicely (my gf has a nook color that i rooted for her) but they're just not the same.
So if you guys were in my position what would you do? Get the ipad for now and wait for the honeycomb tablets to be released and then sell it ORRR get the g-tab now and sell that once the honeycomb tablets come out. The second choice im worried about the depreciation in value once the honeycomb tablets come out, the ipad not so much since the next ipad comes out in aprilish
I don't care about the price difference
and I want a tablet NOW like within the next 2 days
Im also kind of picky about screen quality. I dont care too much about viewing angles i just dont want a washed out screen (super amoled spoiled me lol)
If screen is your main concern then g-tablet wont fit your need when compared to ipad, for me after using it for a month I am liking it.
So you have to prioritize your needs, if you read this forum many of them said high about g-tablet except for the screen.
Guess it really depends on what apps are important to you. There aren't many tablet optimized apps currently for android but there will be once honeycomb comes out.
One important thing about the G Tab (or most android froyo tablets) is full web experience. For example, I never need to use the Facebook app since I can access the full facebook website just fine.
If you want it right away and don't have the time to tinker, ipad is your best choice.
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If you want it right away and don't have the time to tinker, ipad is your best choice.
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i have lots of time to tinker. If i do go for the g-tab im loading Cm7 on it right away ..i hate decisions
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If you want it right away and don't have the time to tinker, ipad is your best choice.
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If you will never need to use Flash... Gtab has flash now.
bobdude5 said:
I'm about to buy my first tablet device and have the option of buying either the ipad or the viewsonic g-tab. Originally what i was going to do was buy the ipad and then sell it once a honeycomb tablet is released, but that changed after i read about the G-tab on here.
The number one reason for me wanting the ipad is the quality of the tablet optimized apps. Yes i know the android apps scale up nicely (my gf has a nook color that i rooted for her) but they're just not the same.
So if you guys were in my position what would you do? Get the ipad for now and wait for the honeycomb tablets to be released and then sell it ORRR get the g-tab now and sell that once the honeycomb tablets come out. The second choice im worried about the depreciation in value once the honeycomb tablets come out, the ipad not so much since the next ipad comes out in aprilish
I don't care about the price difference
and I want a tablet NOW like within the next 2 days
Im also kind of picky about screen quality. I dont care too much about viewing angles i just dont want a washed out screen (super amoled spoiled me lol)
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From what you've specifically detailed, the iPad is more your speed. But otherwise there are too many variables that make it too close a call to recommend one over the other in your case.
iPad pros are optimized apps and a more streamlined experience as well as the obviously 'better' screen and the resale value.
GTablet pros over the iPad right now don't really fit into anything you've mentioned - and that is, that this is a more feature rich device, having a sdcard slot for expanded storage, a dual core cpu and better gpu than the iPad.
If I were in your shoes, how I see it is that the GTablet is an investment and something to look forward to tinkering with and upgrading now and when the software is available later on (possibly), not something to buy now and sell later. I doubt you'll get 80-90% the value of the G Tablet when you re-sell it.
The iPad would be a better purchase in your scenario, as something to use right now and then sell when this years tablets hit the market in early to mid 2011.
I already have both
For my personal use I have a Droid X phone and a gTab tablet. My job has given me "for work use" an iPhone 4 and an iPad.
For me with the use of VEGAn beta 5.1 and all of the tweaks I have been able to do on my gTab I get a lot of use out of it. I read digital magazines, play all sorts of games, surf all sorts of websites (with Flash and without) and watch all sorts of videos (both personally ripped or streams off of websites).
Plus, with my rooted Droid X, using Wireless Tether I can get unlimited 3G through my phone as a WiFi hotspot so I always have internet connectivity on my gTab for no additional monthly fees.
My work iPhone 4 cannot be used as a WiFi hotspot (yes it can be jailbroken but it doesn't belong to me). So my company pays for a data plan on my iPhone as well as paying a separate data plan fee for my iPad. If I had to pay out of my own pocket I wouldn't use the iDevices simply due to the extra monthly cost on top of paying more for the devices in the first place.
In the end, it's a matter of preference. Yes, the screen on the gTab leaves MUCH to be desired and the screen on the iPad is crisp and clear with way better veiwing angles. But I personally don't care so much about the veiwing angle issue on my gTab.
The only time I actually use my iPhone or iPad (in all honesty) is when I take the family out to eat and need to keep 2 little boys occupied so they don't make our time out a living hell. The Netflix app is only available on the iDevices and so I use them to show my kids either Shaun the Sheep (my 18 month old LOVES it) or a Batman/Superman animation (my 4 year old LOVES it).
So, like others have already said, if ease of use and screen quality is your main concern, go with the iPad. Or, get both.
I was facing the same discision and went with the G Tablet for now as it is built for the future. The Ipad will also be in my future but I will wait for the second generation of IPAD. The current IPAD is facing extinction and is running at the end of life cycle. Latest leaks say an announcement on the IPAD could come out at the end of this month.
Based on your requirements I would go for the iPAD 2 when it comes out. Unfortunately the G-Tablet is truly a 1st generation Android tablet... Its screen is horrible (useless Portrait, washed out or too dark if not at the right angle in Landscape), the OS is virtually unusable in its out of the box state, requires fairly high technical understanding and a ton of patience to get the custom ROMs working (for those of you say its easy.. yes it is when your technically inclined... If your my wife it would never happen)... Each ROM has a trade-off... Some are faster but unstable, some are stable and fast but have limited features, some just dont work!
Most simple games run but a good percentage of those do not fit the screen properly, most complex games just dont run or are unstable. Most applications run but a small percentage dont fit the screen properly.
All in all you buy the G-Tablet because your a geek, love to fiddle and cant wait for the next best thing... If your not a geek and have patience then in about 3-5 months there will be many good choices...
For sure the iPAD is must more mature... If want an out of the box experience its a no brainer...
I am not an apple fan boy or an android fan boy.. just a realist...
I do love my G-Tablet for what it is...
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I'm about to buy my first tablet device and have the option of buying either the ipad or the viewsonic g-tab. Originally what i was going to do was buy the ipad and then sell it once a honeycomb tablet is released, but that changed after i read about the G-tab on here.
The number one reason for me wanting the ipad is the quality of the tablet optimized apps. Yes i know the android apps scale up nicely (my gf has a nook color that i rooted for her) but they're just not the same.
So if you guys were in my position what would you do? Get the ipad for now and wait for the honeycomb tablets to be released and then sell it ORRR get the g-tab now and sell that once the honeycomb tablets come out. The second choice im worried about the depreciation in value once the honeycomb tablets come out, the ipad not so much since the next ipad comes out in aprilish
I don't care about the price difference
and I want a tablet NOW like within the next 2 days
Im also kind of picky about screen quality. I dont care too much about viewing angles i just dont want a washed out screen (super amoled spoiled me lol)
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If even considering an iPad, you should wait. The update will be huge- if you like Apple stuff, of course.
"iPad2":
1. Dual core
2. Micros sd (about 90% likely)
3. Even better display than iPad (wow)
4. Front & back camera
5. Rumor of a 128gb version (no sure about that one)
I am glad I bought the gTablet, since paid $350 for it. There is a metric ton of great games and apps releasing for the iPad platform. I will probably buy one myself and give more time for Honeycomb at the app platform to mature for it. gTablet is a GREAT bridge.
Since you plan to sell whatever you buy once the new iPad hits, seems to me your best bet is to buy something second hand now. That way, you won't lose as much money when you turn around and sell a few months later.
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Im also kind of picky about screen quality. I dont care too much about viewing angles i just dont want a washed out screen (super amoled spoiled me lol)
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iPad, just because of that one sentence. The GTab screen is not washed out, but portrait mode is bad and the viewing angles are crapola (especially in portrait). The iPad has an IPS screen, which just blows the GTab screen away. It's a major difference between the two. I have an AMOLED screen on my Cowon S9, so I know what you're talking about.
If you are willing to wait a few months, more tablets should be released with IPS screens. And of course there's the Notion Ink Adam (if they actually ship today, and if the reviews are good). Plus the iPad 2 is coming out in April, so buying an iPad v1 now might not be the best idea.
Suggestion: Buy something that will hold back the instant gratification factor - I know that feeling and understand it quite well. Possibly an iPad v1 with the understanding that you'll probably lose about 15% of your money on the resale, as the bargain hunters wil be vying for v1's after the v2 comes out.
My other concern with the iPad is the walled garden factor - once you commit yourself to iOS, you are basically stuck with it. At least with a Gtab you have Android as the base and can move between vendors.
I had an iPad and sold it specifically to get my G-Tablet.
I loved the iPad but am really into tinkering - so the G-Tablet was more my speed. It's not perfect which is oddly what I kind of like about it.
If money is no object and you are just looking for a toy to use like a "normal person" I would probably just get the iPad.
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Since you plan to sell whatever you buy once the new iPad hits, seems to me your best bet is to buy something second hand now. That way, you won't lose as much money when you turn around and sell a few months later.
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No not the new ipad lol. I want either the xoom or that unnamed toshiba honeycomb tablet but i have no idea when those are coming out. From what i've read the xoom is next month but thats mostly going to be a 3g/4g enabled version which i do not want. I am definitly going to jailbreak/root whichever one i get.
Where is the best place to get the g-tab? Sears, office depot? how much is it?
$399 sears and $379 office depot
If your going for the XOOM then you might as well get the iPAD... Android buyers want android due to openness.. other then that the iPAD is fare superior (at least for today - Later this year can be a different story)
Read here:
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/01/1...er-to-buy-elsewhere-if-they-want-custom-roms/
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No not the new ipad lol. I want either the xoom or that unnamed toshiba honeycomb tablet but i have no idea when those are coming out. From what i've read the xoom is next month but thats mostly going to be a 3g/4g enabled version which i do not want. I am definitly going to jailbreak/root whichever one i get.
Where is the best place to get the g-tab? Sears, office depot? how much is it?
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ipad vs Galaxy vs Gtab vs Matala vs Streak 5
Found this selection flow... very interesting
http://tablets.finerhosting.com/tablets.jpg
Depends on how you want to use the device.
Personally, I can't do the Apple walled garden thing.
If you can, then yeah, go for the ipad.
I found a new G-Tab for 350, no tax, no shipping on E-bay last week. Did the OTA update that came out late December. Installed the enhancement pack to which I added a Google contact syn apk. Did the market fix. I also use the paid version of ADW Launcher. Everything so far works great. At the college where I work all of the students are loaned iPads (and I am a previous 3GS owner). So I spend a fair time around the iOs devices. I will admit there is a certain amount of polish not found in Android. Having said that, my web experience is far superior to the iPad, and since that is primarily what I got it for I feel it was a better purchase.
I think of all the tablets available today, the HP Touchpad is the one I would choose. I got to play with a few tablets recently. Among them were the iPad, Moto Xoom, HTC Flyer, Blackberry Playbook, Huawei Ideos and the HP Touchpad. The newest Sammys weren't available. Nor were the Acers.
First off, the BB Playbook was the absolute worst of them all. It took 3 people to accidentally figure out how to delete a picture. Whilst messing with it trying to navigate around the UI, I snapped a picture of myself and wanted it off the system. I looked and looked and looked and finally called one of the store associates to assist. After he played with it for a long time, he called another store associate. The second associate played with it for a very long time also and then accidentally figured it out. We all went through every menu we could find and the answer was a simple downward swipe from the top of the LCD frame.
This brought back memories of my experience with a BB phone. No friggin way would I buy a damn BB tablet.
The rest of the tablets were sweet. The HTC Flyer was super smooth and gorgeous. The Xoom is old news. And the iPad is tired. I was really surprised by the Huawei tablet. It's so inexpensive, yet it works really well. Nevertheless, I love WebOS and my play time with the HP tablets was great. It worked flawlessly and smoothly and has that excellent multitask system. Plus I love the style, size and shape.
When the Sammys come out, I'll give them a try also and see it they can best the HP.
I'm liking the xoom. A keyboard and a mouse and I can ditch the MacBook.
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im not and idiot or a noob, im tyring to post legitimate feedback on an android rom i am currently using but i need 10 posts so here is one more, thanks for this stupid rule! 8
I have been using Droid ROMS, MODS and kernels since the G1.
OG Galaxy Tab
I have the OG Galaxy tab and it rocks honeycomb pretty well. By 2 year old loves netflix so I'm happy.
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OG Galaxy as in the 7 inch version. Honeycomb is on thru a custom ROM.
When I was in the market for a tablet I took a look at the xoom, playbook, iconia, and the transformer. The xoom was off the list because it was out of my price range. The playbook, I could not find the back button do that was it. It came down to the iconia and transformer, and I chose the iconia because of the full sized usb port and flash on the back.
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This brought back memories of my experience with a BB phone. No friggin way would I buy a damn BB tablet.
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also that in order to get e-mail on the thing you need to be linked up via bluetooth with another phone.
i went to check one out, was in a game when i did, looking all over for the exit button, took me and another employee 20 minutes just to figure it out, swipe up....yeah, lets not put softkeys on it like we do with our phone, nah, no menu, a FRIGGAN SWIPE MOTION!, i can't blame them for trying to be inovative, but the "physical buttons" for the playbook are so small that someone would need a stylus just to press the friggin' buttons.
it has flash, and 1080p playback....yet the camera on it sucks.
RIM, try harder next time.
I don't have a tablet. But I would like one!
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also that in order to get e-mail on the thing you need to be linked up via bluetooth with another phone.
i went to check one out, was in a game when i did, looking all over for the exit button, took me and another employee 20 minutes just to figure it out, swipe up....yeah, lets not put softkeys on it like we do with our phone, nah, no menu, a FRIGGAN SWIPE MOTION!, i can't blame them for trying to be inovative, but the "physical buttons" for the playbook are so small that someone would need a stylus just to press the friggin' buttons.
it has flash, and 1080p playback....yet the camera on it sucks.
RIM, try harder next time.
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The store I was at had a couple Playbooks on display at different areas of the store and the first one I came to had a non-functional small round button on the top...the button about the size of a bb pellet. I didn't know it didn't function; that it was damaged, and figured it was some sort of LED indicator. On the second Paybook, which was fully functional, if I hadn't pressed that little round button by accident to turn on the device, I never would have figured out how to power it on because I attributed that round button as an indicator or something of that nature. I wouldn't have intentionally pressed it.
The Playbook is typical BB B.S. I had the same experience with my BB phone. I spent 90% of my time trying to find stuff on it than I did just using it. No wonder BB is in the crapper these days.
I went with a Transformer. I did some research too. I will say this that playing with a unit in the store and taking it home and using it for a week or two is a huge difference. I am sure you can make some basic decisions based on your likes and dislikes, To heavy dont like how it feels in your hand etc, but nothing takes the place of good ole fashioned "Use it". I wrote a pretty long article regarding my purchase and my decisions tree in the transformer forums, as there are a lot of "Can the Asus Transformer replace my netbook/laptop" threads on a lot of different forums and i wanted to put my thoughts out there as well. I will find the link and link it. But in short the basic answer is it depends. I know not the best answer and not the one you were looking for but its the truth.
Here is my post its long but might be worth a read if you are trying to decide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=15679836#post15679836
I am very happy with the transformer and in my post i give the reasons i chose it.
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we have the xoom here. not sure how we like it yet. can't get it to root. or rather can't find a walkthrough that doesn't assume you already have certain things installed on your computer. not their fault. it's the xooms for me needing to root to actually use all it's features.
i have the galaxy 10.1 its so dirty i love it. slim, light, and fast
Apple suxxx but by the way, I prefer the iPad 2 !
I prefer the 7 inch tablet, but there aren't any good ones. The best 10 inch is the sammy sung tab 10.1.
It down right makes all the other tabs look like s**t. Samsung did a GREAT job on the screen. I like the feel of the thrive but it's screen sucks. The ipad seemed heavy but I do like its keyboard. The touchpad and playbook are the worst. the iconia is pretty ugly. The xoom feels nice but has a bad screen in my opinion. Tab 10.1 is best then xoom or ipad.
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I am using Apple i pad. Its features processing speed durability awesome.
Some tablets are truly great in the niche such as Xoom, Transformer and Ironia, but seems that it's still no one is good enough to beat the iPad. At least for me, I have to admit the using experience is really fantastic on iPad.
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I am using Apple i pad. Its features processing speed durability awesome.
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skydeve said:
Some tablets are truly great in the niche such as Xoom, Transformer and Ironia, but seems that it's still no one is good enough to beat the iPad. At least for me, I have to admit the using experience is really fantastic on iPad.
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Yeah, I agree. The iPad is a powerful and well engineered tablet. But it lacks the high res display I desire and this makes it tired for me. I'm spoiled by the Retina display of my iPhone 4. There just isn't a display as good as the Retina display. If Apple puts an equivalent display in the next iPad, that would solve the tired problem.
i am waiting samsung tab 10.1 or sony
I have the Samsung Galaxy 10.1 and it rocks, so fast and easy to use.
I bought my 8 yr. old daughter a Velocity Micro Cruz. I sent that same POS back 2 weeks later. She is only 8 so I'm not looking to spend mega bucks and I don't buy anything made by Apple. I am thinking of getting her the Gen 9 Archos 8in tablet when it arrives in a few months. The Cruz isn't a bad tablet for the price point but it simply has too little internal memory. It constantly froze on us. It is great looking hardware, nice looking screen and a little heavy. Also, not having the genuine Android Market or XDA-Dev support was a killer. I came to realize I have no love for Android in it's current state (2.3 and below as I haven't used or seen a Honeycomb tablet yet). As a long time Windows Mobile user Android still reminds me of an incomplete and immature version of Windows Mobile that is more popular but not more effective. I am disappointed in this realization, especially when 90% of the tablets out there worth their salt, hardware wise, are Android based.
To be fair, I actually played with my friend's IPad II also. When I say played with, I mean sat there and used it for 2-3 hours to see if it could impress me. The answer is no. It's a $600 POS. What's scary is the Velocity Mirco Cruz was $179 total and the $400 or so price difference really doesn't show when it comes to using the damn things. The Ipad was lighter, faster and didn't freeze (because it has enough damn internal memory), but like every other damn Apple product it is limited and constricted. I swear if the Cruz had more internal memory it would have been 200x more effective than that Apple pos. Transferring information was easier. Using it as a part of my current environment was easier (HD2, Windows 7 laptop, Windows Vista PC). When I used the Dolphin browser it worked excellent (as did Safari). Basically the only satisfying experience I had on the Ipad was the Youtube application and the only thing that made it better than what I get on my HD2 is the screen size. Beyond that it has nothing on my 2 year old phone. Apple smapple.
I don't expect the HP or BB tablets to last very long in this market so I'm hoping Microsoft comes out with a viable tablet OS (which is rumored) and it doesn't actually disappoint me the way everything else has. Knowing I won't be able to replace the Cruz for under $200 I upped the ante to $300 and it looks like Archos is going to slide in with the gen 9's. Hopefully I won't remain disappointed.
Looking at all of the Android tablets out there I just wonder what I would really want. I have a Windows desktop, laptop, and Android phone. All of which I use alot. Right now a tablet would just be a toy. Any thoughts?
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Good thing I searched before posting this exact same question. So what are the thoughts on the tablets that are out or soon to be released? What is or what will be the hottest tablet of the year?
If it's just a toy, go for something on the cheap end.
Amazon Kindle Fire could be a good choice, but it doesn't offer expandable memory and some other features.
I got myself a Barnes and Noble Nook Color for $150...I wasn't gonna let myself spend much on it, because like yourself, it was just a toy for me. I got a 16 GB uSD card and put CM7 on there and it works great.
I tried Galaxy Tab 10.1 on monday and it let me somehow desperated. It's not that quick and smooth as I expected. Could be faulty it was test model at shop and anyone touch it and make changes in settings, installing apps and so one?
If a toy, go cheap... I started with the nook color. I now have the Samsung galaxy tab 10.1, and I love it. Awesome.
As for responsive, well the first batch was a little laggy. Even in benchmarks they would get around 1500. I know since I tested a store model. The most recent are much better and get over 2000 in the same benchmark. Just look for the Samsung logo on the front glass. And older version, just get task650 In Paris rom. And if you want, you can over clock from 1000 to 1400, but I haven't had to.
My wife wants the Zoom and wow has the price came down on that!
I've been looking at cheap tablets (gtablet, Viewbook, Ideapad, Nook Color, and many more. I just wonder if my toy will not become more. My dear wife would not mind if I got a Xoom for both of us. Even checked out some of the higher priced tablets. I played with the gtablet, transformer, and the thrive at Office Depot.
I,d love the thrive but the charger seems a little much. The transformer was cool and I do have a little laptop called the Asus 900HA that has served me faithfully for three years now. I don't like the idea of non-user battery replacement as I tend to keep my gadgets longer now. Thanks all!
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I think I have narrowed it down to the Zoom or Thrive. I like so much about the Thrive that I can live with the power brick. Even read some about the Zoom Family at Best Buy.
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I am curious to see how the Fire will work out.. I am sure it will be hacked and rooted and what not soon after it comes out.. Could be a good cheap tablet. I wish the screen was just a little bit bigger though.
My wife wants one...
I posted this in another thread, but it was much longer and worry nobody will see it so I will post it here too:
My wife has a 3 or 4 year old laptop and probably hasn't been turned on in months because "its too much of a hassle" to use it. She used to like playing Flash games all the time on the laptop but since we got iPhone 4's a little over a year ago she has just used her iPhone 4 for almost all of her internet needs.
Recently she has expressed interest in getting a tablet for Christmas because it is less cumbersome than a laptop but also significantly easier to read than the small screen on the iPhone 4.
We first looked at the iPad 2 but she really wants to be able to watch Flash videos and more importantly, play Flash games.
What is the best tablet under $600 that fits the bill for this? Also, what is the cheapest tablet that will suit our needs? Thanks in advance for any advice anyone can give.
Tablets on Honeycomb is rubbish IMHO.
I think Google rushed out Honeycomb just to get a share of the huge tablet market. From a business perspective, don't blame them and good on ya, Google! From a customer perspective, it's absolutely **** to be stuck with Honeycomb!
If you don't want an Ipad 2 right now (or not interested in Apple's products at all), then I would wait for Google next mobile OS - dubbed Ice Cream Sandwich - to hit the scene. We'll see, then, how Google OS will really compete with Apple's...
Thinking about doing the same
redsrule2500 said:
If it's just a toy, go for something on the cheap end.
Amazon Kindle Fire could be a good choice, but it doesn't offer expandable memory and some other features.
I got myself a Barnes and Noble Nook Color for $150...I wasn't gonna let myself spend much on it, because like yourself, it was just a toy for me. I got a 16 GB uSD card and put CM7 on there and it works great.
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I can get a refurbished Nook Color from B&N for $140, then spend $20 on an SD card and I am good to go! Thinking hard about doing this. Does anyone know if they keep those in stock or if the price will go up or they will run out if I wait? I would like to wait until closer to Christmas and maybe get one for each of us!
I walked into Office Depot with a coupon for $15 with intentions to immediately buy the Nexus 7 16GB, when I walked up I saw the TF700T in the corner of my eye and instantly I fell in love. I started browsing the specs and trying the tablet out and really wanted it but saw the price tag. I grabbed a receipt slip to buy the Nexus 7 but my feet wouldn't move because I became indecisive. I ended up spending a hour at OD just staring at the two tablets. I ended up being a sucker for the price and went to buy the Nexus 7, when the employee went to grab my Nexus he said it was stuck under a big shipment of products (they just received it a hour ago) and "it would take 2 hours just to get to it". He promised to set it aside for me to pick it up tomorrow and I went home in shame. I am on my laptop looking at the TF700T and decided F the Nexus 7 and just get one from Best Buy and get some rewards points, plus I have $25 in gift cards and rewards $ been sitting around.
I love the Full HD resolution, the HDMI capabilities (I canceled my Android mini-PC z902). However, since you guys actually own the tablet, you will know a lot more than I do. Do you guys recommend this tablet for me?
I am planning to watch HD mkv videos, listen to music (bluetooth mostly), play previously purchased HD and non-HD games that I had to endure on a small screen smartphone, read my kindle books (my kindle was stolen a few months back), and many other things. I will most likely look into rooting it since I love my rooted Thunderbolt. Also any negative thing about rooting this tablet?
Please highlight on some of the negative things, but don't scare me away from the product if you recommend me purchasing it.
Also for those who might own both or know someone who has one or the other, would you recommend the Nexus 7 or TF700T? What are some things that the Nexus 7 dominates over the TF700T?
I appreciate the time you guys put into reading this and I appreciate your answers!
I made my order with Best Buy, will plan on picking it up tomorrow around noon. That is unless I find some other info persuading me to avoid the tablet.
Please do leave some comments.
Thank you!
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I walked into Office Depot with a coupon for $15 with intentions to immediately buy the Nexus 7 16GB, when I walked up I saw the TF700T in the corner of my eye and instantly I fell in love. I started browsing the specs and trying the tablet out and really wanted it but saw the price tag. I grabbed a receipt slip to buy the Nexus 7 but my feet wouldn't move because I became indecisive. I ended up spending a hour at OD just staring at the two tablets. I ended up being a sucker for the price and went to buy the Nexus 7, when the employee went to grab my Nexus he said it was stuck under a big shipment of products (they just received it a hour ago) and "it would take 2 hours just to get to it". He promised to set it aside for me to pick it up tomorrow and I went home in shame. I am on my laptop looking at the TF700T and decided F the Nexus 7 and just get one from Best Buy and get some rewards points, plus I have $25 in gift cards and rewards $ been sitting around.
I love the Full HD resolution, the HDMI capabilities (I canceled my Android mini-PC z902). However, since you guys actually own the tablet, you will know a lot more than I do. Do you guys recommend this tablet for me?
I am planning to watch HD mkv videos, listen to music (bluetooth mostly), play previously purchased HD and non-HD games that I had to endure on a small screen smartphone, read my kindle books (my kindle was stolen a few months back), and many other things. I will most likely look into rooting it since I love my rooted Thunderbolt. Also any negative thing about rooting this tablet?
Please highlight on some of the negative things, but don't scare me away from the product if you recommend me purchasing it.
Also for those who might own both or know someone who has one or the other, would you recommend the Nexus 7 or TF700T? What are some things that the Nexus 7 dominates over the TF700T?
I appreciate the time you guys put into reading this and I appreciate your answers!
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I fully recommend the tf700 infinity for the incredible screen, the fabulous, must-have keyboard dock, the microsd card slot and mini hdmi port in the tablet and the full size usb port, and sdcard in the dock. you have native usb otg, more storage than you'll ever need, great wifi and gps, everything works very well. stereo speaker not too shabby with boost from volume + app. Easy to root, just have to run superuser/supersu right afterwards so root sticks. some people have had build quality/QC issues and a number of units have been exchanged. the device series has a less than stellar i/o performance but it can be enhanced through software. the jellybean update will come soon and that's expected to improve i/o performance a lot. mine is already very smooth in 97% of operations with a pretty basic stock-based custom rom.
you'll love watching movies and listening to music. some have reported an amount of audio lag when using bluetooth headphones with a streaming video. some browsers perform better than others...you need to experiment. i think you will love it.
i love the Nexus 7 too, but it's more of a plaything than a serious tablet to do anything productive with, besides read, casual games and flashing roms and kernels. if you're a flashaholic, get the N7.
Yes, get the 700.
Dat 1080p screen.
Dat upgraded tegra 3.
Dat quick Asus updates.
Dat ddr3 ram.
Dat animus playing capabilities.
Dat keyboard dock.
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The tablet is great. I did return a couple and ended up with on with almost no light bleed and I don't see AnR issues very often. The I followed this thread and its even better. I didn't remove all the apps listed.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30343788&postcount=1
TF 700 DOES have more build issues than most, but almost all will show up before exchange period is over. It's great.
I had a TF 201, THOSE were crap. Thankfully, I had BB protection plan. I suggest you get at least a yr plan. True, I am having a few issues with mine, hence plan, and will be returning it for another one. BUT, it's fabulous. We will be getting jelly bean much sooner than most people. Hell, many tablet owners of other makes are still on Honeycomb. I'm not sure what res camera Nexus 7 has, but 700 is 8 mp back, 2 front. BEAUTIFUL pics.
I think if you get BB plan in case you get a lemon, you will be more than pleased.
I've tried it for hours. Very stable and quick. Fully recommend it for everyday use (surfing, chatting and music). 720p is all right. But 1080 can lag or choppy sometimes.
Is the 3G/LTE allready available if yes where can i buy it?
Or is ist better to just buy the wifi with tegra 3
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Is the 3G/LTE allready available if yes where can i buy it?
Or is ist better to just buy the wifi with tegra 3
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The wifi only is the only one available at this time.
I'm very happy with mine.
Just be careful and do *not* purchase it from Office Depot - they do *not* allow you to return it, no matter what - you can only exchange it for the exact same product.
So, if you bought it and decided two days later that you just didn't like it, you are screwed! They have the *worst* return policy that I've *EVER* seen - stay away!
I will *never* buy any electronic device from Office Depot again (this policy applies to all electronic items)!
Spread the word!
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my mother in law is going to the states and she is planning on buying one @ wallmart
its great
This tablet is awesome I love it, but it has a bit lag issues especially when typing. I'm desperately waiting for jelly bean. Anyone know when the heck are we getting it? It should have been right after tf300, but it still not here.
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my mother in law is going to the states and she is planning on buying one @ wallmart
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Walmart does not sell the Transformer series, never has. Office Depot, GameStop, Best Buy, Amazon, and B&W Photo do, save some grief, get it at Best Buy, and you DO NOT need a Hardware warranty. I returned (along with 70+ other people an 8 month old Rooted, UNLOCKED Transformer Prime, that Best Buy had already given me a FULL Credit for, and got the Transformer Infinity, in fact, 3 of them, I am still hunting a perfect one with no light bleed ( people claim they exist, but so fat that has been like Bigfoot, hear of, but rarely seen. Lighbleed isn't all, they are the most inconsistent pices of hardware on the market - EVERY ONE I have has produced widely varying benchmarks, and build quality is either awesome or total garbage, so be prepared to return, return return, until you get a perfect one (you get 30 days to return as much as needed) - The Nexus 7 is built by Asus as well, but it's a freak of nature, maybe Google is a demanding partner, but other than io lag, they seem to be more consistent in build. Good luck, happy hinting. I hoe I didn't scare you off. Heck you can always say screw it and get something else. Bunch of folks got the Samsung Note 10.1, but thats bit for me. To plasticky,AND LOW RES. cool though, but no transformer.
My only issue is the poor sound quality. I wonder if voodoo sound will come to our eventually.
Nothing like having great earphones sound horrible because the tablet doesn't push enough power to them.
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Walmart does not sell the Transformer series, never has. Office Depot, GameStop, Best Buy, Amazon, and B&W Photo do, save some grief, get it at Best Buy, and you DO NOT need a Hardware warranty. I returned (along with 70+ other people an 8 month old Rooted, UNLOCKED Transformer Prime, that Best Buy had already given me a FULL Credit for, and got the Transformer Infinity, in fact, 3 of them, I am still hunting a perfect one with no light bleed ( people claim they exist, but so fat that has been like Bigfoot, hear of, but rarely seen. Lighbleed isn't all, they are the most inconsistent pices of hardware on the market - EVERY ONE I have has produced widely varying benchmarks, and build quality is either awesome or total garbage, so be prepared to return, return return, until you get a perfect one (you get 30 days to return as much as needed) - The Nexus 7 is built by Asus as well, but it's a freak of nature, maybe Google is a demanding partner, but other than io lag, they seem to be more consistent in build. Good luck, happy hinting. I hoe I didn't scare you off. Heck you can always say screw it and get something else. Bunch of folks got the Samsung Note 10.1, but thats bit for me. To plasticky,AND LOW RES. cool though, but no transformer.
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Im from the Netherlands myself so when it comes to warranty i will contact asus directly. Im having an Asus laptop which had problems and also contacted them directly without any problems.
volume + app
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My only issue is the poor sound quality. I wonder if voodoo sound will come to our eventually.
Nothing like having great earphones sound horrible because the tablet doesn't push enough power to them.
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Yeah for better sound quality for Asus u need to buy volume + .99 app at the google store. That's what I have and it sound good I mean extremely loud, but if u are planning to purchase the app set it up right like enabled equalizer and changed the preset to flat and bass on 2 no more than or it will blow up...
There was some weird voice in my head when I saw the new Nexus 7 (2nd gen) coming out: "buy it, you need it, you want it, you deserve a new toy". I have a few friends that were really happy with the 1st gen Nexus 7, so I was tempted to buy the 1st Nexus7, but didn't.
I should have really thought it through before buying the 2nd gen Nexus7. After having it for 4 months I concluded that the only reason to have it is if you like games.
Downsides and reasons I decided to sell:
- portability. Even thou its portable enough, i found that my old HTC Desire Z has the same functionality and use as the Nexus7 for daily tasks, plus also offers the portability of fitting into a pocket without tearing it.
- no vibro. I am used to have tactile feedback when writing messages, getting alerts and such
- no 3G/4G LTE The whole thing about the tablet is using it to consume stuff online and the 3g version costs 50-100 pounds extra. That's unfair
- influences to play games. Having something as powerful as it and not playing games seems like a waste of money and the crisp clear screen
Why would I want something as powerful as the Nexus 7 just to check my email, read news, e-books and the like? I can read mail and news on my phone and read books on my Kindle.
Don't get me wrong, the Nexus worked really smoothly and with just an occasional hiccup. But before getting it I would look at girls in public transport awkwardly and sometimes even get enough balls to actually say "hi" to them instead of turning my eyes red in that 7 inch, 50Hz shining light-bulb that seems to exploit my brains psychological fallacy to stay "on top" of (not important) news, games and apps.
I decided to get a Asus EEE for work and learning, Linux my Kindle and read PDF's on it (the battery holds in the count of weeks not days) and use my phone for android and stuff on the go.
After I built a desktop just for gaming I replaced my laptop with an ASUS Transformer - it's lighter, the battery lasts longer and I like it a lot better than a netbook. I still use my e-ink Kindle because I much prefer reading books on e-ink. My phone is pocket sized but isn't the best when I'd rather have a keyboard to type with.
For me, this is what works. It's all about arranging the tools in your life to work best for YOU.
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There is nothing better than hardware keyboard and mouse in notebook or PC. In most cases tablets are running Android, so they can't run programs like PowerPoint or Excel.
I use it mostly for watching videos... Works great for that purpose. Still prefer reading on my kindle though. Also browsing the web is a little easier on the larger screen.
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- no 3G/4G LTE The whole thing about the tablet is using it to consume stuff online and the 3g version costs 50-100 pounds extra. That's unfair
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What about tethering then?
I wanted to buy tablet for myself for few times, but i dont see point now with my phone. Almost all that i can on tablet, i also can on my phone. And for some serious work i need keyboard and thats that. My wet dream is ultrabook but i cant justify cost
Pennycake said:
After I built a desktop just for gaming I replaced my laptop with an ASUS Transformer - it's lighter, the battery lasts longer and I like it a lot better than a netbook. I still use my e-ink Kindle because I much prefer reading books on e-ink. My phone is pocket sized but isn't the best when I'd rather have a keyboard to type with.
For me, this is what works. It's all about arranging the tools in your life to work best for YOU.
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Transformer is only called tablet, but it is much more
A tablet has no advantages.
1) The main thing I use my Galaxy Tab 3 for is reading e-books.
It's pretty cool having a portable library where you can change the text size and color (red is easier on my eyes).
I really like to read, both fiction and non-fiction, and a phone is too small for that, even my Nexus 5, it's just too small. 7" is perfect for reading, as is 10"
2) Also, I have taken some vacations this year, and took a bunch of pictures that my family wants to see. Very easy to just bring a tablet if a family member is in the hospital (I have such a person) or if I go somewhere else, and I can show them come pics and videos right on the 10" tablet.
3) Work. Some of us work in fields where we would like to show pictures of things we sell or explain things to customers, and this comes in handy as a tool.
4) Games. I play chess and checkers on the 10" tablet sometimes and it's pretty fun. Some games really shine on a bigger screen.
Now what I find ridiculous, and I have seen this recently at a concert and at the zoo, is people taking pictures with their tablets, namely iPads. It's pretty crazy that you brought a tablet to that venue, and you're using it as a camera?
Really don't get that.
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A tablet has no advantages.
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SIZE. Bigger than a phone, smaller than a laptop.