Hardware Video Codec Support? - Asus Transformer TF700

I picked up an Infinity after owning a Transformer Prime, since they have very similar SoCs I assumed that I would have the same codec support built in. However now I'm finding that almost half the 720p H.264 content that worked on the Prime is not supported by the Infinity. Anyone else having this problem? Is it possible that Asus has simply not built support into their somewhat questionable firmware releases?

REAVER117 said:
I picked up an Infinity after owning a Transformer Prime, since they have very similar SoCs I assumed that I would have the same codec support built in. However now I'm finding that almost half the 720p H.264 content that worked on the Prime is not supported by the Infinity. Anyone else having this problem? Is it possible that Asus has simply not built support into their somewhat questionable firmware releases?
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Welcme to the TF700 and it's respective corner of XDA. There are a few odd differences between the 700 and past models that have left folks scratching their heads, such as the Support of sixaxis controllers without the sixaxis app. As for the codecs, not sure as I ditch the stock player immediately as it never seems to support what I want plus I like extra features such as sliding the side of the screen for brightness and volume levels.

Actually I've tried every video player that I know of, all switch to SW mode. Has anyone found a player that supports HW acceleration, I would assume that if any player supported HW decoding they all would. I will take a look at the differences in media and see if I can spot the discrepancies .

REAVER117 said:
Actually I've tried every video player that I know of, all switch to SW mode. Has anyone found a player that supports HW acceleration, I would assume that if any player supported HW decoding they all would. I will take a look at the differences in media and see if I can spot the discrepancies .
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It's gotta be your audio, BS player handles most audio. Load up the video in handbreak and see what the format is.

I'll check out the format info, but I don't think it's the audio, MX Player will let you independently set audio and video hardware acceleration.

Dice player
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I don't know how many times this has to be said...

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+1 for Dice - I too was getting S/W rendering with MX Player - tried Dice and it worked right way using H/W rendering... haven't looked back since. I also like that Dice had a volume booster built-in - I've found many videos just have their volume set way to low - Dice handles that nicely.
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I'm with Keion on this, try BSplayer.
Which file formats do not play on your Infinity? Also try to find out which video and audio codecs are used for that file format. Use Media Info (for windows) or similar tool.

The files I'm having issues with are 720p H.264 main profile level 4.1. I've tried Dice, oddly enough if I open the videos from the file browser and play them with Dice they drop to SW, however if I open them from inside Dice they play HW. Wierd.

REAVER117 said:
The files I'm having issues with are 720p H.264 main profile level 4.1. I've tried Dice, oddly enough if I open the videos from the file browser and play them with Dice they drop to SW, however if I open them from inside Dice they play HW. Wierd.
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I heard that ffmpeg is compatible with diceplayer.
Maybe try that?

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NVIDIA Tegra 2 optimized Video Player

Just thought i'll share,
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.mxtech.videoplayer.ad&feature=more_from_developer
its a multi-format player called MX videoplayer(in case the market link doesnt work).
so far seems good, comparable to mobo player
**edit 18 Aug 2011 **
Here are a few other players that have been mentions in the replies here, i'll put the links here
Mobo Player
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.clov4r.android.nil&feature=search_result
i'm using mobo and mx both
DICE Player
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.inisoft.mediaplayer.trial&feature=more_from_developer
seem like there have been good stuff being mention about it. Thanks to zephiK for letting us know.
I found out that the dev for DICE is actively answering questions on this thread so look out for post by juami (the dev) and if you have specific questions( [email protected] )they are happy to help.
the player i'm waiting for is from VLC.... heard that they are having issue coding the library files(C++) to something android can read.
nice find! downloading now
edit: nice interface still waiting for a video media player that can decode AC3 audio on honeycomb.
Good player...but can't specify a folder to look for videos in.... have videos on microsd card and can't find them when searching for media files
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krash183 said:
Good player...but can't specify a folder to look for videos in.... have videos on microsd card and can't find them when searching for media files
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Personally I started using file explorers for opening video files. It usually agrees more with cifs and the standalone ones usually just work better. I'm loving this player tbh. Space bar is pause and play, a feature, as an editor, is welcome.
thanks. I was looking for a decent video player.
Damn it seems to work good but it doesn't handle mkv's.
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krash183 said:
Good player...but can't specify a folder to look for videos in.... have videos on microsd card and can't find them when searching for media files
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You can now Update today!
@david279: it handles it. processes video but no audio in H/W.. vice versa in S/W.
and yeah yeah i know I can handbrake to fix it etc etc but I want it to work out of the box without converting
Awesome.... great player....stuck between using this and moboplayer
That was a fast update/fix..... Devs do listen to us normal people hahaha
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Cant use it to stream from dreambox, vplayer works very good for that.
What a great find! Thanks for sharing.
I noticed that the sound seems better with this player than others that I've tried.
I'm happy camper!
Another Honeycomb player is out named DICE Player. I had good experiences with it on my phone including mkvs with AC3 audio AND I can confirm that... IT WORKS ON TF101 with the newest version that came out today.
https://market.android.com/search?q=DICE+player&so=1&c=apps
MKV + AC3 Audio working in Hardware Acceleration!
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.inisoft.mediaplayer.trial&feature=search_result is the 3-day trial to see if it works.
Edit: About a 3 second lag at the beginning but it plays fine afterwards.
zephiK said:
Another Honeycomb player is out named DICE Player. I had good experiences with it on my phone including mkvs with AC3 audio AND I can confirm that... IT WORKS ON TF101 with the newest version that came out today.
https://market.android.com/search?q=DICE+player&so=1&c=apps
MKV + AC3 Audio working in Hardware Acceleration!
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.inisoft.mediaplayer.trial&feature=search_result is the 3-day trial to see if it works.
Edit: About a 3 second lag at the beginning but it plays fine afterwards.
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Damn the dice player actually works great. May have to buy it.
david279 said:
Damn the dice player actually works great. May have to buy it.
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Yeah I definitely bought it. $3.95 is a good price, it's the first media player that actually uses hardware to decode. I just love it because it decodes AC3 audio and uses hardware acceleration.
Whereas, on other players including this one and RockPlayer,MoboPlayer,etc.
When they decode in hardware: no audio, video is fine
Decode in software: video lags, there is audio
This one meets both of them half way and says "bye!" to handbraking to get video files to work.
Works very well on my phone and saw that there was a update to it. I just had to get it for my Transformer when I saw Honeycomb support!
MX Player works better than moboPlayer on my Transformer, and plays 720 video faster from my SD card. Awesome.
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This works better than moboPlayer on my Transformer, and plays 720 video faster from my SD card. Awesome.
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Which one? OP video player or Dice?
I did get dice to stutter a bit. A 1080p inception got it and tron legacy had some problems. These were streaming though.
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Wow.... works perfectly w/ 720p mkv's..... now if other free movie players would do this
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Could not get it to player any files from microsd card though
Edit: also extracted subtitles did not work on 3 files I tried
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dice seems to be pretty good but, having some issues accessing my sd card and files with subtitles (gallery to dice trial don't seem to show subtitles and subtitle size and such options don't seem to work)
Can anyone with the full version confirm that works correctly in the paid for version?
what kinda files are the movies yall watch? and where to get them? vuze?

[Q] Video format for Asus eee pad transformer

hello there..i just wondering..what type of video format should asus ee padtransformet tf101 can support?because when i play a bluray mkv format video..it laggg too much...i'm using a stock android 3.2.1..anyone can help or may suggest a better player for video?
GAME ON said:
hello there..i just wondering..what type of video format should asus ee padtransformet tf101 can support?because when i play a bluray mkv format video..it laggg too much...i'm using a stock android 3.2.1..anyone can help or may suggest a better player for video?
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From what I understand, with the Tegra2 will playback H.264 High Profile in hardware and offloads it to the processor, which as you've noticed can't decode it quickly enough. The I know the Tegra2 will playback H.264 Base 3.0 profile (iPod). I also think it will playback H.264 Main.
The Tegra3 (Kal-El) is the first SoC chip to be able to playback High Profile in hardware.
Dice player.... do better job. In addition, i overclock to 1.4, then to mkv fikes 720p play smoothly...but you have to root your tf or install custom rom plus custom kernel
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From what I understand, with the Tegra2 will playback H.264 High Profile in hardware and offloads it to the processor, which as you've noticed can't decode it quickly enough. The I know the Tegra2 will playback H.264 Base 3.0 profile (iPod). I also think it will playback H.264 Main.
The Tegra3 (Kal-El) is the first SoC chip to be able to playback High Profile in hardware.
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i see..thanks chris..
izbr1234 said:
Dice player.... do better job. In addition, i overclock to 1.4, then to mkv fikes 720p play smoothly...but you have to root your tf or install custom rom plus custom kernel
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owh..i have to root my tf eh?thanks dude..
try to use mx video player and download the mx video codec.
you can also add subtitle to your movies....
it's work on my tf...
I have a bunch of movies in MP4 (h264) and AVI (dixv) format that work on my transformer. I use MX Video Player to play them because that software is by far the best video playing software i have seen on any tablet.
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I also will put in my 2c about the MX Video Player. Well worth the five and change. It plays MKV ripped right to the disc but, sometimes is a little
choppy.
I've been using a pre pre pre Alpha build of VLC Media Player on my Eee Pad and HTC Desire for a while now and haven't had any trouble playing almost any file (mostly .avi ripps of DVD's).
If you want to try it download the VLC-noneon.apk (double check your device /proc/cpuinfo) from the developer here:
http://cvpcs.org/blog/2011-09-18/videolan_for_android_pre-alpha
MX Video Player and MoboPlayer plays 720p with few (there still is) hiccups on my stock TF. I find Dice to be more laggy.
I'm not sure if it was the latest revolution ROM, or the latest MX Player, but now I can play WTV files streamed from my WMC without issue. Very happy. ([email protected]).
The 1080i is ok (deinterlacer needs work), but the 720p stuff looks awesome! Tried 1.4Ghz, did not help.
I still think Dice is the best for MP4/AVC/AAC, but MX Player does a decent job.

Video Player Help

Hi peeps, looking for a video player for my TF to play 720p .mkv filetype. I have looked around and there are plenty to choose from but nothing i seems to work. I have tried the ones everybody points at with no luck. Playing from a network drive and get choppy playback but all well on my Sammy S2.Any help offered is good help.TIA.
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First of all, the video players: IMO the best are Dice Player, MX and BS Player.
I usually use Dice for smaller "easier" formats like small .avi files and the like.
For my 720p h264 mkv files, I use BS Player.
For me it plays best with guevor´s kernels, slightly overclocked but set BS Player to drop framerate if behind.
I have found MX player to play everything, even flash. It also has hardware decoding.
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Thanks for your input guys but after looking around i get the feeling the TF just aint gonna cut it with the mkv files i have (720p). The answer that keepscoming up is to convert and that the TF just does not handle them well. In my case everything i have tried is useless. No overclocking as i have not rooted. So it looks like i will have to convert them. Bummer really i figured it would handle it OK.
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Are you trying to run a file with maybe Hi10P, thats a profile that use 10bit for decoding instead of 8bit, its therefore also simply called 10bit. The asus transformer falls back to software decoding since the hardware doesn't have the codes for that so you have a massive performance drop.
I also mainly use Dice player and BS player, they really are the best but you must stay clear of Hi10P.

Codecs needed?

I'm trying to play some avi's and mpgs on my Infinity, but they don't seem to want to work. I tried both Dice Player and BS Player but no go. These same files worked on my Prime, so I'm not sure what the issue might be. Are there some codecs that need to be downloaded or something, or does the Infinity just not play these type of files? Any help would be appreciated, thanks!
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what happens when you try to play them? where are they stored?
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the player just shows a black screen and then kicks me back out to the file structure to select another file. Theyre stored both in internal and microsd.
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So how are your files encoded? (check on your PC if unsure)
he mentioned mpgs and avi I think. To the OP what about stock player? if that doesn't play an .avi something is wrong. you shouldn't need codecs for .avi or .mpeg. uninstall both BS and DICE since they don't work you can also try MXPlayer and get the arm7 codec pack as well (both free). that is my favorite and has played every file type so far
neo1738 said:
he mentioned mpgs and avi I think. To the OP what about stock player? if that doesn't play an .avi something is wrong. you shouldn't need codecs for .avi or .mpeg. uninstall both BS and DICE since they don't work you can also try MXPlayer and get the arm7 codec pack as well (both free). that is my favorite and has played every file type so far
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Ok i tried mx player and that took care of the avi/mpg problems, thanks!
I have an mkv and and mt2s that doesn't work though, but I'm gonna just convert them. Thanks guys!
czerdrill said:
Ok i tried mx player and that took care of the avi/mpg problems, thanks!
I have an mkv and and mt2s that doesn't work though, but I'm gonna just convert them. Thanks guys!
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i think MX will play .mkv if you have the arm7 codec pack installed as well. Just a thought. mt2 not sure what file type that is so idk if mx usually plays that or not.
neo1738 said:
i think MX will play .mkv if you have the arm7 codec pack installed as well. Just a thought. mt2 not sure what file type that is so idk if mx usually plays that or not.
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Thanks again, it works now!
neo1738 said:
he mentioned mpgs and avi I think. To the OP what about stock player? if that doesn't play an .avi something is wrong. you shouldn't need codecs for .avi or .mpeg. uninstall both BS and DICE since they don't work you can also try MXPlayer and get the arm7 codec pack as well (both free). that is my favorite and has played every file type so far
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You can have tons of different codecs in the avi files, so that's not really specific.
That's good this worked for you, OP, but Dice and BS should play mkv x264 files just fine, so this is unusual. It would be a different story if you got video with no audio because of DTS encoding.
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d14b0ll0s said:
You can have tons of different codecs in the avi files, so that's not really specific.
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Excellent point that people tend to overlook. AVI and MPG are both Container Formats. Just because they have the same file extension that another working video does doesn't mean you will be able to decode it.
Use a more in depth way of finding out why it won't work.
http://www.headbands.com/gspot/ Gspot codec information appliance - Older program but still works great
http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net/en Mediainfo-Newer. Still maintained
ive always used moboplayer and never had issues, but on my infinity I have found several videos that simply dont play. They are wmv. These videos play fine on my Atrix (cm7 - GB) , Acer a500 (ICS), and HTC View (HC)... I was wondering if it's the tegra 3 architecture that needs something special? Moboplayer has codec packs, but I generally dont use them... weird.
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Thanks again, it works now!
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Glad to help!
d14b0ll0s said:
You can have tons of different codecs in the avi files, so that's not really specific.
That's good this worked for you, OP, but Dice and BS should play mkv x264 files just fine, so this is unusual. It would be a different story if you got video with no audio because of DTS encoding.
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DIdn't know about the .avi having different codecs, thought .avi was .avi. As for Dice and BS I agree they should work but figured since they didn't why not try MX, which seems to have worked for the OP. Personally I like MX best anyway so I may be a little biased
I used to love MX on my TF101, but when I tried it on the TF700 it kept using software rendering (so big battery drain as CPU is working hard). All of the same files played using hardware rendering with Dice. Am i missing something?
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[Q] No audio with BS player app

Hi all-
Has anyone used BS player with ripped TV shows? Don't have the tablet in front of me, but pretty sure the shows are MP4 format and play fine with MX player - no issues at all. I'm trying to use "BS Player Free" as it successfully gets subtitles online for the shows. However, these which play fine in MX, have video and subtitles in BS player, but no audio. I've tried tweaking/changing the settings but I can't figure out a successful one to get it right. And after a few tries, the player begins to crash immediately when launching a show, not playing at all.
Very frustrating. Any suggestions/advice?
Thanks all.
Hi There,
I have never had any trouble with BS Player, altough I prefer the look of MX Player so don't use it that often. Recently they have updated to remove support for Dolby AC3 audio codec as they don't have a license to support it. You may want to search for an older version and install that instead. I am on 1.9.150.
Unfortunately Dolby don't seem interested to license out AC3 to small developers like that do they really don't have a choice but to either remove support, or go undeground with it. A shame really..
Yeah, I'll try that. If the older version doesn't work, or if I can't find that version, anything else I should try??
I'll assume that you've tried all the obvious things such as having the volume turned up, not on mute etc etc. Try a file that you know should work, I think if it's AAC audio it should work, and if that works OK then you know it's not the tablet or any setting in BS Player.
Thankfully AAC is quite popular and normally I would try to avoid anything with AC3 because some players won't support it. When I can't avoid it I keep my trusty copy of BS player handy (and backed up). I'm not sure of any other decent quality player that supports it. Dolby only appear interested in DVD/Blu-ray manufacturers and the likes. If you find another good player that works then let me know!
Oh yes - volume up, not on mute, etc. The same file/show works in MX player, but not in BS player which I'm trying to use for the subtitle feature.
If you haven't knowingly messed with any of the settings then I can't think of a reason it wouldn't work. Double check your preferences to make sure it is using HW decoder, and under playback preferences there are options for what codecs are supported, make sure MPEG4 H264 are checked. I guess that if those are unchecked it wouldn't play the video either. You also have an option during playback to select the audio stream. Normally there would be only one, but perhaps it is not sure which one to select and you need to manually tell it. To find that option open up the menu (top right) select audio, then audio stream. Might be worth a double check. I can't see any other settings that would affect it.
You're not using a bluetooth speaker are you? I have just double checked with mine and it seems to work OK for me over bluetooth.
Cool - will try/check those settings today. Will there be more than 1 audio stream to choose from? I don't think there were, but I'll double check. Audio didn't work with or without BT speaker, but works fine in MX player with or w/out BT speaker. I am using one regularly. But when I test tonight, I'll not use it and only use tablet speaker.
Thanks.
In case you cannot get your videos to work, you should consider Dice Player. Out of the box, Dice Player does not support those unlicensed codecs, but it supports custom plugins, which allow you play any videos with audio. As long as you know how to add a plugin, you should be able to play anything.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1833704
huy_lonewolf said:
In case you cannot get your videos to work, you should consider Dice Player. Out of the box, Dice Player does not support those unlicensed codecs, but it supports custom plugins, which allow you play any videos with audio. As long as you know how to add a plugin, you should be able to play anything.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1833704
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Will try that as well - thanks for the suggestion!
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\Out of the box, Dice Player does not support those unlicensed codecs, but it supports custom plugins, which allow you play any videos with audio. As long as you know how to add a plugin, you should be able to play anything.
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What? Diceplayer plays the videos just fine without plugins. I've never installed a single plugin and have yet to run into a video it can't play...
I second DicePlayer. All my videos are ripped(ahem... We'll leave it at that.) TV shows as .mkv, .mp4, .avi or .mpg with .srt subtitles.
Regarding the subtitles; You do know you can just get them from podnapisi, right? (there is nothing illegal about that.)
Then just name them identical to the videofile except for the extension, put it in the same folder as the videofile, and pretty much every player plays it automatically...
No, I've never heard of podnapisi. Cool - thanks. I'll try that too.
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Update - so When I got home and checked the ripped shows that work in both MX and BS, and compared it to the ones that only work in MX, I saw the pattern. Using a file manager app, I looked at the properties/details of the files/shows. Worked on both - audio was listed as MP3. Only worked on MX player - audio not listed. I don't know why its not on some shows, but obviously there is audio since it works on MX player. However, I could only get it to work on MX player by switching from HW decoding to SW decoding. Interesting and confusing for a newbie like me. Also, both shows are avi files so I couldn't see a difference there. Still puzzled but I will try Dice player next!!
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So, Dice Player works flawlessly as you guys mentioned. And I added subtitles to the folder and it found those too. Love this forum and all the help you guys offer. Thanks so much!!
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The trick for the subtitles also works for.sub files and all other subtitle formats if you ever run in to them, and they also work on a pc, media player, tv and dvd player this way.
As an added little bonus, diceplayer has a 400% volume boost as well. Which is useful, as the tf700 speakers are not exactly what you call loud.
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ShadowLea said:
What? Diceplayer plays the videos just fine without plugins. I've never installed a single plugin and have yet to run into a video it can't play...
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I am talking about audio codecs. For example, due to licensing issues, Dice Player removed support for DTS audio quite long ago (just like BS Player removed support for Dolby recently), so custom plugin is the only way you can get support for those audio codecs. Videos using those codecs will still play, just that there will be no sound.
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Also, both shows are avi files so I couldn't see a difference there.
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AVI is just a container format - the codecs used for the audio and video streams inside the file make the difference whether you can play it or not.
Wish I knew how to open or modify it.
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huy_lonewolf said:
I am talking about audio codecs. For example, due to licensing issues, Dice Player removed support for DTS audio quite long ago (just like BS Player removed support for Dolby recently), so custom plugin is the only way you can get support for those audio codecs. Videos using those codecs will still play, just that there will be no sound.
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Ah. That's why I never noticed.
VLC (Beta, but works shockingly well) still has support for both those codecs. It doesn't like 1080 .mkv very much, though.
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Wish I knew how to open or modify it.
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You'd have to re-encode it. If you have an Adobe package (not acrobat), Media Encoder does the trick. Otherwise, try Handbrake. It's open source.
http://www.bsplayer.com/android/source.html
to compile specific custom codec for bsplayer with AC3 and other.
If you want to see how your video is encoded download this for Windows:
http://mediaarea.net/en/MediaInfo
Then you'll be able to see how the audio was encoded in a video file.

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