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video player optimized for honeycomb, or just tegra 2 optimized?

Hello guys at xda
This question may have been here before, and if it has here it is again.
Is there a video player that is optimized for honeycomb, or at least a player that take advantage of the tegra 2 cpu?
Otherwise i like to know if there is an video player that support dlna devices, so i can browse the dlna server directly from the video player app it selfs, sonthere is no need for a second app to do that.
Last thing, and i dont know if tisnis redicilus, but is there a player that support iso files an so on ?
Hope you can help le, and sry for my english !
Regards Fisken
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moboplayer is tegra2 optimized now. though be warned, like all other tegra2 players, HD mkv files have issues playing.

http://moboplayer.com/moboplayer_en.html
so which codec pack should we use, the NEON?
and what do i do with the .apk file?
sorry, i'm a noob
edit: nvm, took me 2 seconds on google...

Vplayer was updated for tegra or honeycomb I forget which, but it works pretty well for most file types on the eee pad.

stuntdouble said:
Vplayer was updated for tegra or honeycomb I forget which, but it works pretty well for most file types on the eee pad.
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i've tried every notable media player out there, but i still haven't found one that plays my hd .mp4 file [1280x720 3000kbps @ 29fps] smoothly...

dnaL0R said:
i've tried every notable media player out there, but i still haven't found one that plays my hd .mp4 file [1280x720 3000kbps @ 29fps] smoothly...
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As a workaround, if you have firmware update1 installed, it means you have splashtop. Run the file on your pc and stream it via the splashtop app to your tablet. Should be fairly smooth if you have a good wifi connection. Doesnt help if you are nowhere near your pc of course, but good if you want to watch it in bed or something. You can even switch your pc off remotely this way too.

yea, i gave splashtop a try just to see how it works and all, but it's not too useful for me... i'll wait 'til these media players get updated.

I ave tried rock player and mobie player but, they kinda work. Subtitles dont appear while the files plays

my vote goes for moboplayer
i used to use rockplayer, but too many FC's
I love how moboplayer saves where you last left off on multiple videos

Fisken said:
Is there a video player that is optimized for honeycomb, or at least a player that take advantage of the tegra 2 cpu?
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Just to be clear about this:
The Tegra2 CPU is a fairly standard dual core ARM v7 core, This is a fine mobile CPU but nothing special and it will _never_ be able to soft-decode HD main profile h.264 video.
However the SOC includes a general purpose GPU that also includes hardware to decode h.264 in an accelerated fashion. This _should_ be able to play 720p main profile and 1080p main with limitations. However the only way to use this acceleration is via the Nvidia OMX plugins that are part of the "StageFright" media system that Honeycomb uses. This system is not exposed to the NDK, and is only available via the MediaPlayer object in java. (It is also limited to baseline profile and under-performing compared to the froyo version for these libs)
The MediaPlayer object is what the default player uses, hence you either use something virtually identical to the default player (With all the limitations it has) or you decode 100% in software (on the CPU not the GPU) and thus can't play HD content due to a lack of horsepower.
Optimising a video player for the Tegra2 CPU will do very little (Like compiling for SSE or 3DNow), perhaps make it a few percent more efficient but nowhere near enough to play HD content.
dnaL0R said:
i've tried every notable media player out there, but i still haven't found one that plays my hd .mp4 file [1280x720 3000kbps @ 29fps] smoothly...
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What profile and level is your video file? (MP4Box will tell you if you don't know)

So, which is better? moboplayer or vplayer?

freeza said:
So, which is better? moboplayer or vplayer?
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moboplayer is free and much more popular based on download numbers and ratings

SilentMobius said:
Just to be clear about this:
The Tegra2 CPU is a fairly standard dual core ARM v7 core, This is a fine mobile CPU but nothing special and it will _never_ be able to soft-decode HD main profile h.264 video.
However the SOC includes a general purpose GPU that also includes hardware to decode h.264 in an accelerated fashion. This _should_ be able to play 720p main profile and 1080p main with limitations. However the only way to use this acceleration is via the Nvidia OMX plugins that are part of the "StageFright" media system that Honeycomb uses. This system is not exposed to the NDK, and is only available via the MediaPlayer object in java. (It is also limited to baseline profile and under-performing compared to the froyo version for these libs)
The MediaPlayer object is what the default player uses, hence you either use something virtually identical to the default player (With all the limitations it has) or you decode 100% in software (on the CPU not the GPU) and thus can't play HD content due to a lack of horsepower.
Optimising a video player for the Tegra2 CPU will do very little (Like compiling for SSE or 3DNow), perhaps make it a few percent more efficient but nowhere near enough to play HD content.
What profile and level is your video file? (MP4Box will tell you if you don't know)
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So...long story short...the GPU can handle 1080/720, but right now players aren't taking advantage of it because the required code/plugins aren't in the NDK. Right now all the players are forced to use software decoding which uses the weaker cpu.
So release the damn plugins!
I'm tired of stuttering video.

Sorry to revive oldish thread... does anyone know if DTS audio is not supported on the TF? I was trying out some sample mkv in 720p and 1080p to see how they looked/sounded. After the 3.1 update the 720p videos are smooth, but I am not getting any audio on the videos in mobo or rock or stock player. In Rockplayer I opened the video with software support instead of hardware and got audio, but mega choppy playback.
Any ideas?

Unfortunately AC3 audio (used in most rips) is not supported by the TF chipset (and the tegra2 chip in general).
This means either fluid video and no audio in hardware mode, or choppy video and out of sync audio in software mode. Very disappointing actually but afraid there aren't any alternatives out there yet.
You'll have to transcode the audio to AAC but that means an extra step in the process. The original galaxy tab seems to play everything, but well... that's not really an option either.

newtybar said:
So...long story short...the GPU can handle 1080/720, but right now players aren't taking advantage of it because the required code/plugins aren't in the NDK. Right now all the players are forced to use software decoding which uses the weaker cpu.
So release the damn plugins!
I'm tired of stuttering video.
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No, that's not what I'm saying. The "plugins" are exposed using StageFright which is used by the standard MediaPlayer object which moboplayer (et al) can and does use but only for the normally supported codecs/containers. There will never be anything better than that.
Any app that "adds" either a container or a codec to Android will be doing it via pure CPU decode, that will _always_ be that case (for the foreseeable future).
That said, the 3.1 update has improved h.264 playback massively, I can play high profile 720p quite nicely now. But if you want MKV container support _and_ h.264 hardware accelerated decoding you'll have to get Google/ASUS to add the MKV container into StageFright at the platform level, no video player app will fix that. (Or wait until we get the platform source, there is already a Matroska container parser in the AOSP repo that could be ported to Honeycomb, hell Matroska parsing is needed for WebM playback and Honeycomb already does that)
dagrim1 said:
Unfortunately AC3 audio (used in most rips) is not supported by the TF chipset (and the tegra2 chip in general).
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Additionally: AC3 is patent encumbered so it costs money to include even if the chip supports it

Honeycomb optimised video player
I have found MX Vidoe Player the best player to use on my Vega running HC 3.2 Build 9n Update 2. Unlike Mobo Player the screen image can be zoomed to any size to fill the screen, not just stretch the image.
Do not know about HD, but depending on your video file resolution the image quality is great.

Dice
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dagrim1 said:
Unfortunately AC3 audio (used in most rips) is not supported by the TF chipset (and the tegra2 chip in general).
This means either fluid video and no audio in hardware mode, or choppy video and out of sync audio in software mode. Very disappointing actually but afraid there aren't any alternatives out there yet.
You'll have to transcode the audio to AAC but that means an extra step in the process. The original galaxy tab seems to play everything, but well... that's not really an option either.
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False!!!
Mxplayer suports AC3 and is optimized for honeycomb
Audio
ID : 2
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Codec ID : ac-3
Duration : 30mn 8s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 448 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 96.6 MiB (23%)
Title : Imported with GPAC 0.4.6-DEV (internal rev. 5)
Encoded date : UTC 2011-01-12 17:33:12
Tagged date : UTC 2011-01-12 17:33:13
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I can play the video smoothly and I have no problems with audio

Playing 1080p MKVs over HDMI

How well does this operate on the sensation? How smooth is the playback of 1080p MKVs? Also, can I play this on rockplayer for example or diceplayer and connect it up to my TV and watch it over HDMI?
Thanks.

Really? No-one?

JellyXDA said:
Really? No-one?
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Well I'm not sure if you know this but there are currently no accessories for MHL that can be utilized in the Sensation. Therefore, it can't be connected to a TV yet which explains why nobody is answering your question. Wait for the MHL dongle to come out and I'm sure people will start saying something.

trying to play 720p mkv just on the phone and its dropping alot of frames.
Tried QQ player and rockplayer but still not enough power to decode the movie in software.
May have to convert the file to mp4 to allow the hardware acceleration!
will try over the weekend and let you know

As of yet, nothing can play MKV's properly I don't think even the SGS II can.

redbullcat said:
As of yet, nothing can play MKV's properly I don't think even the SGS II can.
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It can. I've just played a 720p MKV and it handled skipping, pausing etc like any other .avi file.
Sorry. Didn't read the title. OP was asking about 1080p. Not sure if I have any 1080p things to play.

daivik said:
It can. I've just played a 720p MKV and it handled skipping, pausing etc like any other .avi file.
Sorry. Didn't read the title. OP was asking about 1080p. Not sure if I have any 1080p things to play.
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But can it play 1080p MKV?

redbullcat said:
But can it play 1080p MKV?
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I'll test this and get back to you later. I'm sure I've got a 1080p mkv somewhere on my PC.

I'm pretty sure the Sensation's software isn't optimized. I think when we see some custom ROMs (e.g. Android Revolution by mike1986) we may be able to play MKV's

I can play 720p and 1080p mp4 (h.264 High Profile at any bitrate + AAC) videos without any stuttering, using hardware acceleration.
MoboPlayer and DicePlayer can play 720p and 1080p MKV but with some little stuttering.

Dwin-d said:
I can play 720p and 1080p mp4 (h.264 High Profile at any bitrate + AAC) videos without any stuttering, using hardware acceleration.
MoboPlayer and DicePlayer can play 720p and 1080p MKV but with some little stuttering.
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Just tried moboplayer with my 720p test MKV file and it does play alot better than rock player but still not at full speed.
This may be due to the bitrate of my MKV file though (5500kbps)
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Tried the trial of diceplayer and it plays my 720p MKV file perfectly

rumpleforeskin said:
Just tried moboplayer with my 720p test MKV file and it does play alot better than rock player but still not at full speed.
This may be due to the bitrate of my MKV file though (5500kbps)
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Tried the trial of diceplayer and it plays my 720p MKV file perfectly
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Thanks a lot for testing that out, much appreciated. A lot more useful than the guesstimates made by others in this thread.

My Sensation was unable to play a 720P 60fps H.264 8 Mbit MP4 perfectly smoothly in the stock Movies application. Playback on the SGS2 was noticeably smoother, even from a USB key. I will try it with Diceplayer... VPlayer was even worse though.
EDIT: Seems to playback reasonably well in Diceplayer, and perhaps a little bit smoother in Rockplayer. This could all be placebo though!

bcpk said:
My Sensation was unable to play a 720P 60fps H.264 8 Mbit MP4 perfectly smoothly in the stock Movies application. Playback on the SGS2 was noticeably smoother, even from a USB key. I will try it with Diceplayer... VPlayer was even worse though.
EDIT: Seems to playback reasonably well in Diceplayer, and perhaps a little bit smoother in Rockplayer. This could all be placebo though!
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your test file is mp4. so rock or stock or any other player works same way.
(using embedded media player module)
if you test MKV/H.264-High/DTS or Flac encoded files, you can find differences.

MKV is just a container for MPEG-4 in most cases. I don't see your point.

bcpk said:
MKV is just a container for MPEG-4 in most cases. I don't see your point.
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point is mkv container is not recognised by the sensation default video player, so although the video stream should be played back via hardware decoding it is not.
Most other players that do recognise .mkv files use software decoding, which is fine for AVI (DivX/XviD) or low bitrate h264 files, but at higher bitrates the frames start droping.
Diceplayer is good because after it splits the MKV audio/video streams it recognises that the h264 video stream can be decoded via hardware, this allows much higher bitrates to be played smoother and should consume less battery as the cpu is not thrashing its nuts off.
It may be that in a future software update MKV are supported by the default player, as it is on the SGS2

I wonder if Android Revolution HD or CyanogenMod could play 1080p MKV with Diceplayer or similar, on the Sensation. Would be utterly fantastic if they could!

I'd like to see playback on an OC'd sensation/gs2

Hot to view MTS files (1080/50p) on TF??

Hello everyone. I would like to see the footage shot by my camera (Panasonic TM700) directly on the TF in order to get a larger preview of that offered by the display of the camera. The problem is that I have not found any player that would display the correct file type MTS shot in 1080/50p. I think this isn't a problem of processor (I have a media player with a sigma 800mhz and movies run fine), but a problem of proper codec ....... Do I have some hope that there is a codec for the development of this TF?

Maybe you could contact the developers of those video applications? Does ffmpeg read those files (does mplayer?) - if so, it should be easily doable. Does VLC read those files? There is supposed to be a version of VLC for Android one day but no one know when. Also keep in mind that decoding on your media player could be hardware accelerated and idependend of the processor while TF has to use software decoding.

MTS is part of the AVCHD video format.
I'm not sure if moboplayer will play this, and even if it does,
i doubt it will be without stuttering like crazy, but thats pretty much dependant
on the bitrate of your MTS files.
you could try to remux the audio and video streams from the MTS to an MP4 container or an mkv even.
Google for MTS2MP4 which might be of help.
Try XenonMKV or GOTSent for any mkv remuxing.
Or reencode the whole thing alltogether (which you are likely trying to avoid)
goodluck

Android 3.0+ supports mpeg transport streams with AAC audio only...
The native media player object of Android (hardware accelerated) does _not_ even play fluidly TS files. So you're out of luck for out-of-the-box playback.

I use Handbrake to reencode to MP4 container with AAC audio. Works fine on my TF, but a lot has to be lost in terms of quality to make it playable. Search the forums for the Handbrake 3.1 guide.

any news about an app that can play MTS files?
thnkx, Danilo

not for me

dice player with the tegra plugin works for me. mts m2ts
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TGA_Gunnman said:
dice player with the tegra plugin works for me. mts m2ts
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already talk with the developer about iisue of MTS h.264 720p files. these files will not work on dice player. he said it take some time to enable that...

...and i was searching for h264 mts 1080p!!!???....but tegra2 doesn't support it

kukky said:
...and i was searching for h264 mts 1080p!!!???....but tegra2 doesn't support it
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its an Mkv right??
if im not wrong you can use some mkv player, but those are also hard to get

720p/1080p Video playback?

can the tf 101 play back HD videos in 720p or 1080p with good performance? so far ive treid .mkv, .wmv and .mp4 108ßp files but all of them were way too slow or didnt play at all - is there something one has to do in orderto play HD movies, or is the tf101 too weak?

I've played 720p MKV's and MPEGs with reasonable performance on the stock ROM, but whenever i try to play anything 1080p the wheels start coming off. AFAIK b/c the transformer doesn't have a 1080p screen it won't be able to play 1080p videos (or if it can, it has to downsize them) and that's why it goes haywire whenever i try

In my own experience, I've found that using .avi format encoded with h246 codec (I use TVC) works surprisingly well. I've only converted 720p vids and they run damn smooth. Haven't tried 1080p. Don't need to really. More pixels and I think my eyes might bleed.
Hope that helps. Except the bleeding eyes part.

720p (either mkv, avi or mp4) works okay when using player capable of HW decoding, like MX or Dice Player. I'm not sure about 1080p, but i doubt it would work with acceptable performance.

satanius said:
720p works okay when using player capable of HW decoding, like MX or Dice Player. I'm not sure about 1080p, but i doubt it would work with acceptable performance.
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Ah yes! Very true. Be sure to go to the Market and download "Mobiplayer" and all its codecs. That's your best video player for the tablet right there. That's what I use to play my files. TF definitely can play these resolutions, but it depends on the format, like on any device.

Rumor is that 1080p Main/Low profile works with HW decoding, but not the High profiles.

Mx video player or dice works well. Some mkvs play better on dice and vice versa
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[Q] Medium bit-rate HD h264 playback

Hey folks, I was trying to watch a video on my TF101 that I made with my Galaxy S II today, it's a 1920x1080 17Mbit/sec h264 video file. MX player won't play it in hardware. Any way to fix that?

Try Dice Player with the tegra plugin.

Freemake Video Convertor
Easiest converter I've used....take your 1080p file select 720p mkv or what ever other extension and press convert. Might look into the audio settings a bit more tho. (I haven't yet) but the audio comes out not as loud...
Then use MX video...with HW video and SW audio.
Also this might save you time if you try the converter...don't use the Android setting...didn't work for me...wasted 4 hours (slow laptop).
Swyped using my Pinky

I really didn't want to have to transcode the video.
Diceplayer didn't work, even with the plugin. It was a stuttery, frame dropping mess. At least in MX, it plays in super slow motion.

For me, BS Player seems to be the best for playing HD mkv files.

It's not an MKV file. It's h264 in an MP4 container recorded by my Galaxy S II phone.

Did you try playing it in S/W mode? I've had to use it for 1280x720 videos on my TF101 and Captivate with MX.
Sent from my Captivate

raduque said:
It's not an MKV file. It's h264 in an MP4 container recorded by my Galaxy S II phone.
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Argh, sorry. I really suck at multitasking.
I was just transfering a mkv file over to my Transformer when I wrote that comment. lol
What I meant to say was that BS Player seems best for me to play HD movies (with big file size).