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Noob question.
Will unlocking and rooting a NS4G allow me to switch to Verizon or other cdma companies?
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Not Verizon but cricket and some other cdma carriers. There is a q&a section here also, just so you know
hllywd said:
Noob question.
Will unlocking and rooting a NS4G allow me to switch to Verizon or other cdma companies?
Thanks
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Verizon uses different 3G bands so it won't work.

Uh, doesn't Sprint roam and data roam on Verizon?

You can't flash a sprint phone to work on Verizon's network. It doesn't work
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Uh, doesn't Sprint roam and data roam on Verizon?
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gmap516 said:
Uh, doesn't Sprint roam and data roam on Verizon?
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They do not but not exactly. Go look at the data bands on a tech sheet for a verizon phone vs a sprint phone.
And even if they were the same, they lock the esn number
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Im using a verizon prl on my nexus right now and it uses their 3g...
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dowmace said:
Im using a verizon prl on my nexus right now and it uses their 3g...
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once they find out you are doing that they will ban you from the network. have fun having your contract terminated.

derekwilkinson said:
once they find out you are doing that they will ban you from the network. have fun having your contract terminated.
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Not true. Sprint has roaming contracts for a reason, and we have unlimited roaming.
I've never seen anyone's contract get terminated over it, then fine, make a trip to t mobile.
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Igotsanevo4g said:
Not true. Sprint has roaming contracts for a reason, and we have unlimited roaming.
I've never seen anyone's contract get terminated over it, then fine, make a trip to t mobile.
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This is true. Sprint and Verizon offer network reciprocity in their roaming contracts. They will work, technically, on each others networks, but the ESN lock would disallow a change.
I run a Verizon PRL on my wifes Epic and it functions just fine on Verizon towers, but will always show as "roaming". We have not had our contract termed after almost four years with various phones, because it will still default to Sprint tower first.
There are guides on how to get a Verizon PRL loaded, so go give it a try. No harm in it if you dont **** up your profile...but even then, Sprint is pretty cool about reprovisioning.

Yes you can run a Verizon prl on a sprint phone. You can't flash a sprint phone to Verizon though. It just doesn't work. And that's what the op wanted to know.
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Actually, it is possible to get a Sprint phone on Verizon, but it would involve changing of the MEID/ESN, which is illegal. More or less, you trick Verizon into thinking its one of their own phones. You could try your local metroPCS, Cricket, or US Cellular dealer as they might have the experience to do this. Also, try mobile-files.us.
Also, just to re-affirm, Verizon and Sprint share the same bands 3g and 1x.

Igotsanevo4g said:
Not true. Sprint has roaming contracts for a reason, and we have unlimited roaming.
I've never seen anyone's contract get terminated over it, then fine, make a trip to t mobile.
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Sprint will boot you for too much roaming. Also, your roaming is not unlimited. 200mb of data roaming is all you get. Also if you use more than half of your normal voice usage in roaming, sprint can terminate your contract. I have seen it happen, I work for sprint.
This may be different when you actually use a verizon prl as I don't know how that looks to sprint on their systems. I've never tracked usage while using a verizon prl.
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I have read many forums and have flashed new PRLs with QPST but have never really got it to function properly. What PRLs are working for you guys (Verizon or hybrids) and what steps do you take after you write the PRL to your phone?

Exactly what does using Verizon's prl do? I'm a little new to all of this, but to my understanding, you can basically constantly roam on Verizon's 3g network? If so, does the phone struggle at all deciding which tower to connect to (thus hurting battery life)?
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infernosoft said:
Exactly what does using Verizon's prl do? I'm a little new to all of this, but to my understanding, you can basically constantly roam on Verizon's 3g network? If so, does the phone struggle at all deciding which tower to connect to (thus hurting battery life)?
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I'm using a hybrid PRL that will roam on sprint and runs normally on verizon. Where I work verizon is not available so I use sprint all day while I'm there but when I'm at home I am using Verizon, the speed difference is incredible in some places, I might get 100Kb down with sprint and 300Kb with verizon, or the opposite it doesn't always work out it your favor.
And to the guy saying I'm going to have my contract terminated, why are you being such a jackass? No they aren't going to terminate me for roaming 100megs a month. Not everyone abuses the system.

*THEY mostly CARE ABOUT DATA ROAMING! SO DONT USE DATA CRAZY!!
* WHEN YOU ROAM U USE YOUR ANYTIME MINUTES*
DON'T GO OVER 300 MB in data Monthly*
ALSO NOTE that if you abuse this u get a warning letter** Ur not just dropped..
Those are the basic rules. Ive long been using a HYBRID PRL!!! and works wonders...For those who need it

Can you guys point me to where I can find the Sprint/Verizon hybrid PRL please?

infernosoft said:
Can you guys point me to where I can find the Sprint/Verizon hybrid PRL please?
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look under my name and the posts i made.. I have a tutorial

Verizon and Sprint have the same frequencies. The only thing preventing you from activating the phone on Verizon would be the ESN not in their database; they will only activate phones in their database.
I know you can definitely activate it on MetroPCS/Cricket. If you just have no signal in certain areas and want to force roaming, download Roam Control. I think it's like $4 but it works beautifully and the dev even just added a homescreen widget so you don't even have to go through the app.

Unlimited data plan

While they had the old iPhone method that was fixed there is another way to do it.
Thought this requires you to have the 3g data plan, and you will have to know some one that works at an att store or kioske fairly well.
Att doesn't give the option to have unlimited data on 3g anymore, but (and this is the key) they. Still have the unlimited data plan available for 4g.
You will have to find a cool b&m worker or kioske worker to upgrade your plan to the 4g unlimited from your tiered 3g data plan. I did this on my wife's and brother in laws phone not to long ago.
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Hmm makes perfect sense. I talked my buddy at the mall and he said once his manager isn't around,he will look into it. Appreciate the advice.
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According to the thread in the atrix forum, the iphone trick still works unless they fixed it in the last couple of days. Also saw someone mention this method there too but you have to catch the right employee.

Att is canceling 2g service in the N East area to make more room for 3g on that spectrum. If you're in the south, Midwest or west coast you can still use the 2g iPhail loohole.
newter55 said:
According to the thread in the atrix forum, the iphone trick still works unless they fixed it in the last couple of days. Also saw someone mention this method there too but you have to catch the right employee.
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The iPhone trick still works, doesn't matter if there is 2g in the area
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Either way this method prevents you from having to buy a phone.
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Tx Redneck said:
Att is canceling 2g service in the N East area to make more room for 3g on that spectrum. If you're in the south, Midwest or west coast you can still use the 2g iPhail loohole.
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Wish at&t had more love for MI... Verizon will have lte coverage in more areas by year end than at&t's 3/4g.

Though by the time it is said and done with att will have better coverage.
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newter55 said:
Wish at&t had more love for MI... Verizon will have lte coverage in more areas by year end than at&t's 3/4g.
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I have to travel 30 minutes to get 3g. I get crap 2g where I live. Sometimes.

30cents for EDGE the day I use.

Unlocking my G2x.

I am thinking very seriously about unlocking my G2x an going to AT&T because my service sucks big time where I live at. I don't get service in my house an when I go outside it takes about 5 minutes to get a signal.....what's everyone thoughts.....I've already talked to AT&T an Tmobile and have my unlock code already
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I assume you've already verified that it's possible to get a decent signal on AT&T there?

AT&T gets great signal there an a lot more places also.....an its atleast 3g there about to be 4g an with tmobile I've only got 2g there
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sgt_addyjp said:
AT&T gets great signal there an a lot more places also.....an its atleast 3g there about to be 4g an with tmobile I've only got 2g there
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Good luck on getting Att 3g on G2x.....

Why you say that for?
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G2x supposedly does NOT contain AT$T 3G bands as previously advertised. As for home coverage, T-Mo is supposed to be launching an in-home signal booster for free (with 2-yr contract, probably doesn't effect upgrade timeline but haven't verified that) pretty soon. I think within the next week.

r4d14n7 said:
G2x supposedly does NOT contain AT$T 3G bands as previously advertised. As for home coverage, T-Mo is supposed to be launching an in-home signal booster for free (with 2-yr contract, probably doesn't effect upgrade timeline but haven't verified that) pretty soon. I think within the next week.
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My understanding is the booster needs to be connected to your broadband internet router to work. So you will be using your internet bandwidth to use mobile voice and data. What a scam...
And any one visiting you (or you neighbor) with a t-mobile connection will use that signal (your internet) and pay t-mobile for that.

pbcal said:
My understanding is the booster needs to be connected to your broadband internet router to work. So you will be using your internet bandwidth to use mobile voice and data. What a scam...
And any one visiting you (or you neighbor) with a t-mobile connection will use that signal (your internet) and pay t-mobile for that.
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Hopefully your "source" isn't an otherwise reputable source of information because you (they) couldn't be more wrong. I have been a part of the beta for these boosters for the past 6 months. All it does is take a weak 3G signal (which means you must get 3G somewhere in your house for this to work) and amplifies it throughout your house. In my case in an upstairs window I got a weak 3G signal so I put the receiver in the window and the transmitter in my living room. Now I get between 1 and 6mbps down throughout my entire house. There is not even a way to connect this thing to a home internet router. I don't even have home internet.
I'd be curious to know where you heard this.
Oh and the G2x does not work on AT&T 3G bands. I have been in several states with no T-Mobile coverage and have used AT&T instead, but only on Edge.
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Hopefully your "source" isn't an otherwise reputable source of information because you (they) couldn't be more wrong.
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I did not say I heard this from someone. I said its my understanding, and that was based on the similar booster I saw from Sprint. If t-mobile is implementing it in a different way, than i am sorry for my ignorance.

pbcal said:
I did not say I heard this from someone. I said its my understanding, and that was based on the similar booster I saw from Sprint. If t-mobile is implementing it in a different way, than i am sorry for my ignorance.
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I didn't intend to sound overtly defensive, I just don't like when people start using the "scam" word when this couldn't be further from a scam. This device kicks ass and tmo wants to give it out for free in exchange for people's business. This device is normally $500 so this program is great. Hopefully they will also offer the equipment at full retail price for those uncomfortable signing or extending a contract.
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So in other words I wont be able to use my G2x and get 3g with AT&T
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sgt_addyjp said:
So in other words I wont be able to use my G2x and get 3g with AT&T
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That's correct you will only get 2g connection
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correct. Tmobile has different bands than ATT. So tmobile only get 2G with ATT and ATT only get 2G with tmobile.

Guess I should just sell the G2x then huh....
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sgt_addyjp said:
Guess I should just sell the G2x then huh....
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I see a Motorola Atrix with that beloved MotoBlurp in your future

Another example of totally failed mobile network infrastructure buuldout here. How does the whole world agrees on similar frequencies and we can't have carriers on the same frequency in one country. Yeah, yeah... I know about spectrum availability and yada yada but this just shows our lack of foresight and another example of our national handicap of wanting to be different from everyone else. End rant.
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herzzreh said:
Another example of totally failed mobile network infrastructure buuldout here. How does the whole world agrees on similar frequencies and we can't have carriers on the same frequency in one country. Yeah, yeah... I know about spectrum availability and yada yada but this just shows our lack of foresight and another example of our national handicap of wanting to be different from everyone else. End rant.
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r4d14n7 said:
G2x supposedly does NOT contain AT$T 3G bands as previously advertised. As for home coverage, T-Mo is supposed to be launching an in-home signal booster for free (with 2-yr contract, probably doesn't effect upgrade timeline but haven't verified that) pretty soon. I think within the next week.
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Try today. It has the national launch today.
pbcal said:
My understanding is the booster needs to be connected to your broadband internet router to work. So you will be using your internet bandwidth to use mobile voice and data. What a scam...
And any one visiting you (or you neighbor) with a t-mobile connection will use that signal (your internet) and pay t-mobile for that.
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Nope. It does not need a broadband internet router to work. For that the phone's have wifi calling. It isn't a scam at all.

herzzreh said:
Another example of totally failed mobile network infrastructure buuldout here. How does the whole world agrees on similar frequencies and we can't have carriers on the same frequency in one country. Yeah, yeah... I know about spectrum availability and yada yada but this just shows our lack of foresight and another example of our national handicap of wanting to be different from everyone else. End rant.
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Lots of countries are messed up. We just finally got all the carriers providing 3G here in Thailand. Two of them are providing 3G on 850Mhz (DTAC and TrueMove), one is on 900Mhz and the other is on 2100Mhz. A big grab bag. An AT&T phone will get 3G on two of them. Some TMO phones get 3G on the other one. But all phones get it on the 2100 carrier. I am using my G2X on 2100Mhz here (TOT3G) and my Nexus One on 900Mhz (AIS). So the USA isn't the only country with non-unified 3G bands.

What do u mean by this.....the atrix...I looked at that phone also and the infuse too
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Anyone using this phone on Strait Talk?

Some people say its just like using AT&T but I looked at the coverage map for android users and it looks pretty bad, is this map misleading or is that really how it is?

At&t doesn't have the best coverage. When you own an at&t contract your phone will share cell towers from other cariers when yours is nowhere to be found. This act is called roaming. It is a transparent process that takes place without any human intervention.
Most large cellphone carriers have exchange agreements where they share their towers for free with one another. Under circumstances where roaming is not free, a small charge is billed to your account, or often that charge is waved and payed for by at&t.
Tldr, other carriers roam for free. Yours doesn't (apparently).
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I'm doing well on AT&T, but i live in Chicago, a big AT&T city soo yeah.
But there are a few forum members on straight talk, and they all seem to like it.

I'm using Straight Talk. I'm glad I switched. Same coverage for only $45.
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ECEXCURSION said:
At&t doesn't have the best coverage. When you own an at&t contract your phone will share cell towers from other cariers when yours is nowhere to be found. This act is called roaming. It is a transparent process that takes place without any human intervention.
Most large cellphone carriers have exchange agreements where they share their towers for free with one another. Under circumstances where roaming is not free, a small charge is billed to your account, or often that charge is waved and payed for by at&t.
Tldr, other carriers roam for free. Yours doesn't (apparently).
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I think he was asking if Straightalk has the same coverage as at&t, not the definition of roaming.
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romy134 said:
Some people say its just like using AT&T but I looked at the coverage map for android users and it looks pretty bad, is this map misleading or is that really how it is?
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I have the International HOX on Straight Talk. I always have full service (knock on wood) in Indianapolis.

i have straight talk with ATT sim card and I live in Evansville, In...great service but I know Straight Talk uses both ATT and T-Mobile towers just depends on the sim card you order

I'm using Straight Talk in Upstate NY, so far I haven't had any coverage issues. I've used it in Florida, NYC, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Washington; all with no coverage issues and for data my phone usually shows the H or 4G(Depending on which icon set I use) on the HOX.

I'm using my One X on StraightTalk in Southern California (Orange County, Inland Empire & Los Angeles) and it works GREAT. Using the AT&T SIM card. I usually get download speeds around 5 mbps.
Can't beat that for $45/month! :highfive:

I live in Puerto Rico and visit my father in orlando every few months and the coverage is exactly the same as when i had att. download speeds 5-8mbps and i pay less than half of what i used to pay with att.

Straight Talk
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I live in Puerto Rico and visit my father in orlando every few months and the coverage is exactly the same as when i had att. download speeds 5-8mbps and i pay less than half of what i used to pay with att.
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I was a long time AT&T user and switched to Straight Talk and have kept the same signal strength in Kentucky wherever I go. The only difference I even noticed was when paying my bill.

Yeah, I have a NET10 BYOD sim and its basically the same as straight talk (50 a month but 45 if you setup bill pay online). My service appears to be exactly the same as when I had AT&T post paid.
The only difference is you will get HSPA+ speeds and not LTE.

codyrt said:
I'm using Straight Talk in Upstate NY, so far I haven't had any coverage issues. I've used it in Florida, NYC, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Washington; all with no coverage issues and for data my phone usually shows the H or 4G(Depending on which icon set I use) on the HOX.
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So glad to hear this. Waiting for my contract to run out before I switch and I want something with good coverage. I think the only disappointing thing is lack of LTE.

How is AT&T's network in central NJ and NYC?

I'm currently trying to decide which carrier to go with for the Galaxy S4. I'm leaning towards Verizon, but I'm also considering AT&T because their non-shared family plan is cheaper if you go with less minutes. But I'm worried that their service might still suck, because we were with them until a few years ago and there were a lot of dropped calls, delayed text messages, etc. They also get rated poorly in Consumer Reports and other surveys. So I'm wondering if it's worth giving it a shot and hoping their service has improved, or if I should just go with Verizon.
There are three areas specifically that my family is at the most: Princeton, NJ and Brooklyn, NY and Flushing, NY. I'd love to hear from anyone with recent experience with AT&T in or around those three areas. Any experiences from people in the general tri-state area and New York City would also be great.

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xavierfox42 said:
I live in Brooklyn and am running a SGS3 I9300 on AT&T's GoPhone service. Since it's the international version it doesn't have 4G LTE, but the 3G network is decent enough. I usually get around 2000Kb/s download when I run the Speedtest.net app.
I really don't like using AT&T though, but it's the only carrier that will work with the I9300's wireless bands, so I'm basically forced to use them or only get 2G. My next phone will be bought in the US and thus I'll be able to switch to T-Mobile or Simple Mobile or another reasonably-priced carrier. I would drop AT&T in a heartbeat if I could. I think they're easily the most evil of all the telecom companies (except maybe Comcast).
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Do you have any problems with dropped calls or other issues like that?

No, the service is fine. No real problems to speak of. As expected for a major carrier in an urban area.
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