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New HTC devices plus a tablet at MWC

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http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/15/htc-launches-into-tablet-wars-with-1-5ghz-7-inch-flyer/
tablet looks very good

Well.. I'm really disappointed. I mean REALLY. When you compare the hardware it's almost nothing new.
HTC Desire S vs HTC Desire
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3776&idPhone2=3077
I'm a HTC fan since many years and it's hard for me to say this, but HTC is really behind now and is only trying to make money and sell us BULL****!!!
Just see the comparison and you will know what I'm talking about... minor changes. NOT EVEN THE PROCESSOR HAS CHANGED!!!
The Incredible S is also nothing new under the sun. Not even a dual-core processor... No 1GB of ram.
Seriously, HTC, WHAT THE ****?
The hardware specs of Galaxy S II can eat HTC's newest devices for breakfast.
And HTC really made a big mistake because right now it's no more about the software, it's the hardware that matters. Android is almost the same on all devices and with a community like XDA everything (costumization) is possible.
RIP HTC, I will never buy a device from you anymore.

I feel pretty let down by HTC's showing at MWC.
I was expecting an Atrix/Galaxy 2 rival (aka the Pyramid) and they show us unibodied versions of phones that have been out since last year with slightly bigger batteries running Gingerbread.
I don't know whether to jump ship to the Atrix or to wait and see if they produce the Pyramid at a later date.
I'm not particularly interested in the Tablet, and if I was to get one i'd get the Moto Xoom or Samsung Galaxy 10.1 as they are pretty much the same as each other anyway with stock Honeycomb, rather than a massively skinned and shelled Gingerbread device.
HTC needs to stop trying to insist upon making Sense the core product they are selling and start making some big leaps in hardware, and soon..

Fail
I was expecting a dual core android 2.4 phone with physical keyboard and a android 3.0 tablet. None arrived...

Very dissapointed.
Was hoping for the Pyramid - something to rival the Galaxy S2 in terms of hardware specs.
I really want a HTC and was waiting for this news to determine how to proceed.
If you want the technology the Galaxy S2 seems to be the handset to get, but Samsungs TouchWiz just doesn't even compare to HTC's sense.
For me its the Desire S for now.....I need Sense in my life.
WHERE IS THE PYRAMID!!!!!!

remind me again why i should get rid of my N1?
oh yeah nothing... HELLO!!!! HTC!!! are you even trying anymore?
the only thing turing me off of the Atrix was the possible locked boot loader, and wanting to see what HTC was about to push out....
now that we have one thing off the list.... i feel that i may be leaving HTC for a while until they get their act together... maybe thats what they need... sales not to climb like they have, an actual slap to their bottom line that says consumers are done buying the same thing over and over... but sadly, even with the numbers we have, until the masses relize this, HTC sale numbers will continue to rise and no real reason for them to change...
in their eyes, if it aint broke, why fix it?

for me, its a total dissapointment.
i mean WTF ARE THEY THINKING
its the same ****.. AGAIN
there is still no phone that would be a REAL upgrade to my HD2..
i hoped for a new flagship.. i hoped it so bad..
i hoped for something that would frag all others away.. but they stay at the same level.. just to get even more money out from the same old **** >.>
only good thing of htc this time was the tablet. but thats it, and i guess they will overprice it, so i won't get it
i'll stick to my HD2. **** you HTC, u idiots
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like all of you, I'm very disappointed... where is my Pyramid!!?

Meh, totally under-whelming.
Build quality of the Desire S sounds nice, and i wouldn't mind having one, but it's not specced any higher than my N1 and of course is full of 'Sense' crap which i'd have to nuke from orbit before using the thing.

im really thinking of totaly switching to moto now
the atrix and the xoom tab are just too cool...
and more sexy.

Whats up Guys @ HTC
Every Smartphone producer shows their flagships at MWC this week, and HTC???
Not even one word about the Pyramid is in planning?
Sure we have to wait...
(it was the same with the Snapdragon 1GHz Processor, the TG01 was 4 months before the HD2 out)
And im pretty sure the wait was worth it!
So now we can buy soon (non HTC ):
- Many Dual core (even different Processors) Phones
- 3D Display Phones
- Ultra bright Display ( 700 Nit - Daylight usable) Phones
- Ultra thin and light (Dual Core) Phones (~8,5mm)
And whats coming from HTC? - only a "Sense" with streaming, and an "new" Facebook Button
Where is the Successor of the HD2
Come on HTC, you have to be the carriers of technology, dont get lost in Software ...
Phones are still made out of Hardware!!!
Give the people a Dream - a Dream we want to wait for :
Oh, and this will be such an Dream:
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The Galaxy S II has some fantastic hardware, but I decided because of the complaints people have about software updates etc that I would wait and see what HTC had on offer before making up my mind. Having seen it I have to wonder what exactly are they thinking? Sure they're well built phones, but why do they feel satisfied in pushing out fairly old hardware.

Cheap(er) hardware sells in bigger numbers.

OldBloke said:
Cheap(er) hardware sells in bigger numbers.
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Of course. It may well be that they thought a more reasonably priced (if indeed they are reasonably priced) phone would be just what the market needs. It just seemed remarkably out of place for them to wax lyrical about phones that are remarkably similar to their current generation except with new software.

HTC should really make Sense downloadable through market as a launcher instead. I just hate it. It's ugly and doesn't really make a difference for me.
Regarding the new phones there is nothing really impressive. The new Tegra2 dual core phones that are coming out (LG and Motorola) will most likely blow any of those HTC phones away. I believe they also have integrated geforce graphics so nothing should really be an issue on those phones.
My Wildfire have been a disappointment so I wouldn't even consider a HTC phone again unless I was 100% certain I could make it good.

One devices than can beat the Desire HD?

I stopped paying attention to smartphones a long time ago.
But the HTC Flyer actually catches my attention as a useful Android tablet for once. No Honeycomb is a bummer (Android is already too fragmented!), but it does have an N-trig DuoSense digitizer and apps to use it with. More than I can say for a certain other US$800 Android tablet.
Maybe I won't have to keep looking specifically at Windows Tablet PCs for a viable pen and paper alternative.

Bummer! HTC where's the Pyramid and some Innovative devices??

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Bummer! HTC where's the Pyramid and some Innovative devices??
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yeah i really want my pyramid lol...said it on another thread and i will say it again...htc's releases have not been that great at least i didnt think so

[INFO] htc pyramid ...

The HTC Pyramid, a 4.3 inch device that will be powered by a 1.2GHz processor<not dualcore> has shown itself on the internet again. In addition to this, the device will have 768MB of RAM along with an 8MP rear and 1.3MP front facing camera on board. The rear of the device shows Google branding, but lacks the "with HTC Sense" that we are used to seeing on these devices, and the device is said to be running Android 3.0, Honeycomb. Now, we are unsure of the truth behind all these specs, but we sure do hope that HTC will confirm all of this for us next week at CTIA
http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-pyramid-shows-online-some-early-renders

An overclocked desire hd plus a camera?
Kinda disappointment.
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a new google/nexus phone?
-no htc sense
-has google logo at the back

Seems weird google aparantly said honeycomb wil be strictly for tabs?
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Until HTC invents a larger battery it will not be able to offer dual-core.

Yes they will. Dual core phones use less power because they can turn off 1 core and use less power than any other phone with 1 single core. When the dual core does kick in it probably means the phone is on a 100% load or so, which means that any phone would use a lot of power. The difference is not as big as you would think.
There are rumors that this phone will have a dual core processor.

That article does not state that the pyramid is not dual core. It neither confirms nor denies the number of cores. There are other rumoured specs out there which suggest it will be a dual core snapdragon. Just google it.
Given the fact that competitors have released dual cores, htc will wish to follow suit. Not doing so will cost them market share.
If the other part of the article is true and it shall be another google nexus then that will be truly interesting. I wonder if they will also release a similar spec sense phone in the fashion of the nexus one and desire. If so it will be hard for me to look past the nexus pyramid. It will be dev heaven as google policy is to allow the user to easily unlock the bootloader. Plus if the hardware is largely identical, it will get sense ports.
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dr.m0x said:
That article does not state that the pyramid is not dual core. It neither confirms nor denies the number of cores. There are other rumoured specs out there which suggest it will be a dual core snapdragon. Just google it.
Given the fact that competitors have released dual cores, htc will wish to follow suit. Not doing so will cost them market share.
If the other part of the article is true and it shall be another google nexus then that will be truly interesting. I wonder if they will also release a similar spec sense phone in the fashion of the nexus one and desire. If so it will be hard for me to look past the nexus pyramid. It will be dev heaven as google policy is to allow the user to easily unlock the bootloader. Plus if the hardware is largely identical, it will get sense ports.
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There is 1 sign that tells us it might be the new nexus, and that is the fact that it's stating Google on the back. But Another thing that nexus phones don't have, is a HTC logo on the front. So the only sign telling us it's a google phone on the back is being invalidated by the front of the phone.

I have a feeling this will be the Nexus Two (or whatever) with HTC branding on the front. The Nexus S is known everywhere as the Samsung Nexus S, so it could be a logical extension of the manufacturers branding.
It seems to make sense that the next Nexus phone would have a qHD screen, dual core CPU and be a 4.3" device, after all this is where lots of phones are going and the Nexus line is meant to offer some sort of reference design.
After the Nexus S, which I am now selling so I can keep my Desire HD, I would welcome a Nexus phone from HTC again.
As for the OS, I wouldn't be surprised if there was an Android Honeycomb for phones version (which could be a 3.x or 2.4 or something else) and this device launches that version. I cant help but remember that the HTC Passion name was rumoured for months before the Nexus One came out, this device may not be out for months yet....
On the other hand, this could be all be fake. Or the Desire HDS or something...

HTC Pyramid is dual-core. But it falls behind Atrix and LG 2x in graphic and performance tests.
Link to tests:
http://smartphonebenchmarks.com/for...60-smartbench-2011-result-have-been-revealed/

Seems like the new Adreno 220 is weaker than Tegra

Can't make a judgement until it hits production. Mind you it could also be nvidia fermi all over again.
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If as I to rank GPU based on current availability:
1. PowerVR SGX543MP2
2. Tegra2 (Geforce ULV)
3. Mali400 (Samsung's)
4. Adreno 220

TeroZ said:
An overclocked desire hd plus a camera?
Kinda disappointment.
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Yep, it look very similar to the desire HD!

Don't trust these benchmarks.I'm telling you,they are complete bull****.Unless the Pyramid is running with one core,with crippled GPU drivers and Samsung's RFS filesystem!I mean,c'mon,htc won't let themselves lag that far behind.They aren't THAT much stupid!

mjehan said:
If as I to rank GPU based on current availability:
1. PowerVR SGX543MP2
2. Tegra2 (Geforce ULV)
3. Mali400 (Samsung's)
4. Adreno 220
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That new PowerVR SGX543MP2 is a BEAST!! Have you guys seen the benchmarks compared to the Tegra 2? It annihilates it.
As for the Pyramid. It does have a dual core. The recent benchmarks with the Adreno 220 are not accurate because release is still ways off and drivers are still maturing. Give it time. btw this phone looks absolutely stunning! Best looking device i've seen honestly.
edit: speaking of unreleased htc phones, have you guys seen the HTC Inspire? Sure it's Windows Mobile 7 but the design is also jaw dropping.
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edit: speaking of unreleased htc phones, have you guys seen the HTC Inspire? Sure it's Windows Mobile 7 but the design is also jaw dropping.
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I LOVE the design! Glad to see HTC are changing their designs a bit more... they were getting repetitive!
Hope the pyramid will look something a bit different too!

alexluckett said:
I LOVE the design! Glad to see HTC are changing their designs a bit more... they were getting repetitive!
Hope the pyramid will look something a bit different too!
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It does look awesome Giz had an article on it here
gizmodo.com/#!5782453/first-pics-appear-of-the-htc-pyramid-with-high+res-qhd-screen
(can't post a picture or a link since i don't have enough post -.-)

alexluckett said:
I LOVE the design! Glad to see HTC are changing their designs a bit more... they were getting repetitive!
Hope the pyramid will look something a bit different too!
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Actually the Pyramid looks like a finely-awesomised version of the DHD.
Sent from here,boo-yeah!

I have serious confident to adreno220. If this phone is dual core and boasts a super lcd. I will definitely buy it.
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Xiaomi Phone with MIUI + 1.5Ghz Dual Magic for 310 bucks

http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/16/xiaomi-m1-with-miui-os-a-310-phone-with-1-5ghz-dual-core-soc-a/
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If you've already seen the Xiaomi M1 announcement about a month ago, well, forget it, because Xiaomi has already made some significant changes since then. What we've just learned from today's Beijing launch event is that the M1 -- now officially "Xiaomi Phone" -- no longer packs a 1.2GHz dual-core chip; instead, it's been given a bump to a Qualcomm MSM8260 SoC, thus becoming the first Chinese phone to sport a 1.5GHz dual-core chip. As part of the Snapdragon package, the phone is also powered by a powerful Adreno 220 graphics processor, which will no doubt make good use of the phone's 1GB RAM and a staggering 4GB ROM. Oh, and that ¥2,600 (about US$410) price tag? It's now ¥1,999 ($310), and will be available for pre-order on August 29th for October delivery. Read on for more surprises!
Update: We've just been informed that there will also be a 1.2GHz version available for an even cheaper price!
Update 2: Our hands-on post is up!
Xiaomi Phone with MIUI OS: a $310 phone with 1.5GHz dual-core SoC and other surprises
Unlike most phones with a 1400mAh or 1500mAh battery these days, the Xiaomi Phone gets a ginormous 1930mAh cell instead, and we're promised to get two days worth of real-life usage out of it -- CEO Lei Jun emphasised the "real-life" part, so we shall see. Another surprise -- albeit an odd one -- is that this phone supports both GPS (with A-GPS) and Russia's GLONASS, meaning President Medvedev can navigate around his country just fine while updating his Weibo Twitter.
As for the rest, you get a 4-inch 480 x 854 LCD courtesy of Sharp (LCD for better outdoor performance, and 4 inches for Asian ergonomics), three touch buttons below the screen, a customisable "Mi key" (camera shutter or Weibo; long press for home screen), an eight megapixel camera with an F2.4 lens, and a dual antenna design that plays well with any kind of grip (obviously a little wink at Apple). Dimension-wise we're looking at 125mm x 63mm x 11.9mm, weighing 149g or 5.3 ounces -- just a tad heavier than the iPhone 4. As for accessories, we're told that there will cases in at least seven bright colors, along with spare batteries of the same set of colors (that's how awesome Xiaomi is).
Of course, let's not forget the real star here: the MIUI (pronounced "mee-you-eye") OS, which is a low-level custom UI based on Android 2.3.5. There's no question about MIUI's rapidly increasing popularity in recent years (Xiaomi quoted a user base of about 500,000), but if you insist on trying other Android flavors on Xiaomi's hardware, then you'll be pleased to know that this phone lets you flash whatever firmware you like.
If you're starting to doubt the Xiaomi Phone's reliability, you shouldn't -- we've been told that this phone's been thoroughly torture-tested in the lab, simulating two years worth of usage. "This is why we take much longer than shanzhai factories to make a phone," said the CEO. We'll see about that in two months time, really looking forward to it.
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i dun speak/read chinese

I hope its translated into English...if not this seems like a great birthday present for my dad

This thing is pretty awesome. Look at the price for the hardware people...$300...1.5Ghz dual core. Good camera, decent screen. Big battery, customizable....hell if it supports US 3G bands, that's make it an instant sell.

Can you put CM7 on it?
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Can you put CM7 on it?
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the phone isn't even out.
It doesn't even have root yet.
CM has to support the phone.
thinking far ahead bro.

}{Alienz}{ said:
This thing is pretty awesome. Look at the price for the hardware people...$300...1.5Ghz dual core. Good camera, decent screen. Big battery, customizable....hell if it supports US 3G bands, that's make it an instant sell.
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Looks like it has the bands to support AT&T 3G.

Get this phone if you dont feel like Waiting forever to get your phone updated to the latest Android release.

I am thinking when will there a CM phone

xriderx66 said:
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the phone isn't even out.
It doesn't even have root yet.
CM has to support the phone.
thinking far ahead bro.
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"...but if you insist on trying other Android flavors on Xiaomi's hardware, then you'll be pleased to know that this phone lets you flash whatever firmware you like."
i'm assuming that means unlocked bootloader and superuser capabilities. and given the awesomeness of this phone it will be a /very/ short wait for cm7 to support this phone. i'm guessing the dev community will be huge if this phone delivers on it's promised awesomeness

I am extremely interested in this phone.
I find it interesting that the price point that this phone comes in at is just a little more then most of our new phones in the US with a 2 year contract!
Talk about getting ripped off!

xriderx66 said:
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the phone isn't even out.
It doesn't even have root yet.
CM has to support the phone.
thinking far ahead bro.
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It was a joke calm down
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I might buy cuz I switching to att but keeping vibe as my main just want to experience dual core cuz this is great price might wait a little after release an buy on Craigslist or eBay lol I'm cheap
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it'll be on ebay as "ships from USA", for $450 to get it that week. or you can play the customs games from hong kong shippers and wait 21-28 days to *hopefully* get the phone. i'll stick with newer devices hood rats sell on craigslist because they can't afford the bill they promised to pay. =P

jamesd86 said:
it'll be on ebay as "ships from USA", for $450 to get it that week. or you can play the customs games from hong kong shippers and wait 21-28 days to *hopefully* get the phone. i'll stick with newer devices hood rats sell on craigslist because they can't afford the bill they promised to pay. =P
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Lmao me to seen a galaxy s2 for 450 but not ready to move on from vibrant phone is just to awesome
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xriderx66 said:
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the phone isn't even out.
It doesn't even have root yet.
CM has to support the phone.
thinking far ahead bro.
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I think MIUI is based of CM.. so the answer is yes

Someone's going to get sued.
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I am also looking forward for this phone. Will it be available in INDIA??
LG OPTIMUS P500, mik's OS 2.3.4

amitanshu said:
I am also looking forward for this phone. Will it be available in INDIA??
LG OPTIMUS P500, mik's OS 2.3.4
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specs are pretty amazing for a $300 non contract phone. wonder what 3g/4g networks it will work on for us in the the US...?

Why in US phones comes with contract??
LG OPTIMUS P500, mik's OS 2.3.4

New HTC One S - SE : White color - 64 GB storage / Where can we buy it ?

Hi guys, today I saw this special version of our beloved HTC One S, named "Special Edition"
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HTC Taiwan One S - SE page : http://www.htc.com/tw/smartphones/htc-one-s-se/#overview
Snapdragon S4 processor
New color : White
Extended internal storage : 64 GB (still no SD card slot)
Ships with Android 4.1 Jelly Bean and Sense 4+
Only for Taiwan, HTC UK says there is no plan for Europe :'(
If anyone find where to buy this amazing device, please tell us here !

HTC really wants a punch in his face. Why they keep doing Updates to already released phones?

the machine is magnificent. I would have bought without thinking!

if that phone will come out early we can port the jb rom from it to our one s.

No offence but it looks **** in white like that it's 64gb tho
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k1llacanon said:
No offence but it looks **** in white like that it's 64gb tho
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Agree on the white.
But......after all the low storage etc threads, argued In by yours truly, that HTC should release 32 and 64 gb options......HTC listened
Thanks HTC, now just announce the JB update for the One V (my soon to be secondary phone!)and you will continue to keep me as a customer / fanboy for life!
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Wow...-_- T-MOUS should've released a white variant. Would prefer it over my grey.
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theNOOBuser said:
Wow...-_- T-MOUS should've released a white variant. Would prefer it over my grey.
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Agreed.

HTC was smart by making the end caps tinted already. Bet those things get nasty after some use. I usually prefer white but I'm way more jealous of the storage space than the color in this case.

It's just not fair ;(
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I think HTC's strategy will continue to fail them. It's essentially the same phone they released months ago just it has more storage. This is what the One S should've been when it came out, BUT it also should've had NFC to future proof the device.

Hopefully the memory IC is compatible with our phones so we can just resolder them
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It's not surprising to see HTC made this move to release a variation of one s with different colour and more storage space. And I don't think it's unfair to the "old" one s owner either.
Just like Samsung released S3 alpha in Japan which has better specs than the international S3, companies will never make perfect phone, at least release a perfect one at one time.
The very next day after a device is made available to public, it's already become "yeaterday's" gadget apparently and literally. Moreover we all believed one s was a near perfect masterpiece when we bought it and did not bother too much about the 16gig storage, so why should we complain it now 6 months down the road. And we all know, in 3 years time, or less, one s may only be grandpa's play tool...
Regarding the release of one s se in other countries, I guess it will be available in the future if HTC still wants to keep the one s line. Since I know some big Telecom company like orange uk has marked one s EOL, end of line/life. Or HTC is preparing something big to come in Christmas time.
I do think it would have been nice to have at least 32gig option when one s was released, however that was not the case...
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They could just design it with a microSD slot, it's that simple.
I knew that when I got the phone but didn't think it would bother me so much.
Roming it would be much easier... It's like they took the two bad things from the iPhone... Can't understand that.
Still I love the One S!
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h.han said:
It's not surprising to see HTC made this move to release a variation of one s with different colour and more storage space. And I don't think it's unfair to the "old" one s owner either.
Just like Samsung released S3 alpha in Japan which has better specs than the international S3, companies will never make perfect phone, at least release a perfect one at one time.
The very next day after a device is made available to public, it's already become "yeaterday's" gadget apparently and literally. Moreover we all believed one s was a near perfect masterpiece when we bought it and did not bother too much about the 16gig storage, so why should we complain it now 6 months down the road. And we all know, in 3 years time, or less, one s may only be grandpa's play tool...
Regarding the release of one s se in other countries, I guess it will be available in the future if HTC still wants to keep the one s line. Since I know some big Telecom company like orange uk has marked one s EOL, end of line/life. Or HTC is preparing something big to come in Christmas time.
I do think it would have been nice to have at least 32gig option when one s was released, however that was not the case...
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I disagree. Even after the One S came out, it's specs didn't become obsolete. The galaxy s3 was released shortly after and even that is on par with the one S based on benchmarks. And as the way things are, a lot of phones are being released with almost similar specs, with the exception of cpu speeds (architecture may be more optimized but say, exynos and snapdragon 4 are very much on par) and ram, phones aren't being differentiated. Not unless the new batch of architecture cpu are released and even then, manufacturer still have to create a phone around it. So while yes, this Taiwan version only phone has more memory, it doesn't mean any one s, one x, are going to be a grandpa toy only time soon. I can see the iPhone 5 being obsolete the moment it came out and being a grandparent toy only (Samsung commercial hit it dead on) but the one s will still be a contender. In fact, the only phones that become obsolete the day after released, are budget phones. Aka, one v and people still complain they aren't getting updates.
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Hello,
We contacted HTC France which we confirm that this model was reserved for the Taiwan market.
http://www.androidgen.fr/htc-one-annonce-version-special-edition-actualite-4292.html

Speaking of unique HOS devices, check out this one:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/htc-one-s/214004-my-one-s-dilemma.html
tmobile HTC One S.. and it definitely looks good.

good effort by htc but they really could save more complaints/headaches from current HOS owners by adding the following features:
bigger battery
pentaband frequency
shipped with jellybean 4.1
if priced right i'd buy it and sell my current TMOUS HOS.

How much it cost?

Yes, it's really a nice device.
You can buy it from Taiwan shopping website.
global.pchome.com.tw/DGBM4Z-A69814978
The price is US$ 622.92
Shipping rates
America, Canada : US$10
Europe and others : US$20
FYI.

HTC Is Making Phones Again

Hello, I wanted to share some news here and discuss about it. We probably know already HTC is busy recently with VR and the 5G hub..
HTC will release some phones again finally this summer.. probably in July. There will be a midrange phone and a flagship phone who will be the successor probably of our U12+. The midrange will be probably a snapdragon 660 and the flagship will be probably a snapdragon 865 ( the most powerful this year with 5 G ). We don't know a lot of information of the hardware about those yet.
Here some links which are more detailed: Here for the midrange and here for the flagship
What do you think of this guys? For me i find this great that HTC will making phone again this year, particularly a flagship. I like a lot of things from HTC , like the quality,the design.. the Sense UI.. I am still rocking with my U12 +, we are still on android 9 however. The phone deserves a new update for sure, HTC is still making small updates on some devices this year.. maybe we can still hoped for a new update from htc on it later. I still hoping for a bit, will see. Maybe is will be different with the new phone.. there was a time htc give us update faster than others.
Will i buy it? Maybe, probably, I am waiting to have more information. I hate apple at the highest points .. I have not really interested with samsung. My second choice will be google phone ( pixel) but is not perfect for me ( design still suck, not as much functionality as HTC..)
You guys are you going to buy it ? According to the poll from androidauthority from my second link, many people is interessed to buy it.
I have made a poll for it

Hi, HTC will announce two phones the 16 june! The mid range and the flagship i guess.
Taking directly from the facebook page.
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On June 16th (GMT) we’re bringing TWO new devices to Taiwan (with other markets to follow), as well as additional HTC VIVE information. Check back here for more details soon. #htc

https://www.gsmarena.com/htc_u20_5g...hone_alongside_desire_20_pro__-news-43788.php
I prefer the u12+, or even my old m9, design though. This seems like any other chinese smartphone. Let's see what it can do

dioggo92 said:
https://www.gsmarena.com/htc_u20_5g...hone_alongside_desire_20_pro__-news-43788.php
I prefer the u12+, or even my old m9, design though. This seems like any other chinese smartphone. Let's see what it can do
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So yes is the Desire pro 20 and the U20 5G the two new phones is mid range phone, maybe later a u20+ will see the day..
The question of the day is.. it worth changing the U11 or U12 for the U20? what do you think of that?
What i know it has no edge sense on it.. but also no htc sense ? This is sad.. i really love htc sense.. htc sense on pie is great.
What's your opinion about this ?

Max128 said:
So yes is the Desire pro 20 and the U20 5G the two new phones is mid range phone, maybe later a u20+ will see the day..
The question of the day is.. it worth changing the U11 or U12 for the U20? what do you think of that?
What i know it has no edge sense on it.. but also no htc sense ? This is sad.. i really love htc sense.. htc sense on pie is great.
What's your opinion about this ?
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Imo change the u11 or the u12 for the u20 is a downgrade... It will always be a 2 or 3 years newer phone but I have the u12+ and I'm more than satisfied with it. The only thing these two phones have that I miss is the wide angle and the 5000mah battery. But I can live without them.
If I were searching for a new phone I would go with oneplus or pixel. Even with the rumors of the pixel 5 with the 765g, I don't think that makes a phone less of a flagship, I don't play much games and if the phone is always fast and fluid I'm ok with it!
I think this two phones will be competing with mid range xiaomis, samsungs and so on, and not for the htc fans.
Let's see how the price goes. If they can deliver a good 5g phone with a competitive price maybe they can squeeze some money to make a squeezable u20+ xD

@dioggo92
I still love my u12+ too.. Is a great phone no problem with the buttons, but sadly he will continue to become old like everything else.
Yes is true the wide angle , the big battery is nice, probably other things but I am not sure..
I have looking the phone market and pretty nothing interests me I was hoping a flagship from HTC with HTC sense and some HTC extras. I will continue to see the evolution for the HTC phone.
I have see that the pixel 5 will be a 765G. May ask you why you do not want to change to u20 but if you want a new phone you will probably taking the pixel 5? Since is the same processor you do not consider it a another downgrade like you said? I am agree with you, you should not have lags with this processor , is look a great processor.

Max128 said:
@dioggo92
I still love my u12+ too.. Is a great phone no problem with the buttons, but sadly he will continue to become old like everything else.
Yes is true the wide angle , the big battery is nice, probably other things but I am not sure..
I have looking the phone market and pretty nothing interests me I was hoping a flagship from HTC with HTC sense and some HTC extras. I will continue to see the evolution for the HTC phone.
I have see that the pixel 5 will be a 765G. May ask you why you do not want to change to u20 but if you want a new phone you will probably taking the pixel 5? Since is the same processor you do not consider it a another downgrade like you said? I am agree with you, you should not have lags with this processor , is look a great processor.
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True, I'm only thinking about changing phone next year or so, so for me it's not a deal breaker. By that time I'll see whats going on in the market. I bought this u12+ last year only because I don't buy phones from the same year. They are ridiculously expansive and will drop half the price(or less) 1 year after.
Yep, I get that. That htc sense and extra features are what I like in htc too, plus the build quality of hardware and software. Although the U12+ is not the best example in software unfortunately.
Hang to the u12+ for another year if it lasts that for you.

dioggo92 said:
True, I'm only thinking about changing phone next year or so, so for me it's not a deal breaker. By that time I'll see whats going on in the market. I bought this u12+ last year only because I don't buy phones from the same year. They are ridiculously expansive and will drop half the price(or less) 1 year after.
Yep, I get that. That htc sense and extra features are what I like in htc too, plus the build quality of hardware and software. Although the U12+ is not the best example in software unfortunately.
Hang to the u12+ for another year if it lasts that for you.
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Android pie with htc sense on the u12+ is really great! android 10 is missing for now however.. I have read a email from htc here and is said this:: I completely understand you want to know when the Android 10 update for the U12+ will be available but due to the developing process, we cannot give you an estimated time for this update to be released. Still somes hopes for getting it.
I have read somes rumours that htc will announce a second 5g phone and should by the flagship the next months of later. I hope is will gettings some htc extras..

Maybe they are making some substantial software upgrades. The HTC sense is basically the same since htc one m7 with some new features and tweaks. Maybe u12+ will get a surprise, that would be awesome because they said they wont release new phones but would be keeping the u12+ updated but forgot pretty much about that.

Yes a surprise later will be awesome.