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I've just spent the past couple of hours trying most of the available apks for Google Wallet. I did manage to get the 1.1r67-v12 version installed and running, however when I go to activate it tells me my hardware is not supported. Supposedly this was a known issue for G3 users on other carriers and Google released a fix for Sprint users. I have yet to find this update available in the form of an APK.
If anybody has access to a Sprint S3, could you please get me the APK?
For those interested, Google for a download link to the 1.1r67-v12 and using root explorer, copy it to both system/app and data/app and then reboot. Make sure the perms are correct (google it, rw--r--r or something similar.
My next steps are to try the build.prop trick in combination with the above apk.
If anybody else has any progress on this, please post below.
Thanks
I thought the Verizon version shipped without NFC (no antenna in battery I mean)
LowSky said:
I thought the Verizon version shipped without NFC (no antenna in battery I mean)
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I have no issues with NFC. I've been using it for a few days now.
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Ok....tried all the build.prop tricks and even made up some of my own....no go.....still looking...won't be giving up.
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I thought the Verizon version shipped without NFC (no antenna in battery I mean)
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Wait where did you get this idea? Wasn't NFC one of the key features of the Galaxy s 3? it would seem pretty silly for them to take it out. Then again they locked the boot loader =/
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Wait where did you get this idea? Wasn't NFC one of the key features of the Galaxy s 3? it would seem pretty silly for them to take it out. Then again they locked the boot loader =/
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The Verizon page for the GS3 has S-Beam as listed. It wouldn't be listed if it didn't have NFC.
Verizon probably won't allow Google Wallet because they have a competing product, called ISIS. Bummer.
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From what I can tell there is something missing (might be a bug) in the current version of our OS that isn't letting Google Wallet recognize the NFC device. Sprint had the same issue and apparently there was an update released OTA that fixed the issue for most everybody. If we could somehow get ahold of the before and after image and figure out exactly what was changed, we should be able to emulate they fix on the Verizon phone and get Google Wallet working.
I'm going to keep banging away at it, but there are plenty here way more experienced than I.....so here's hoping somebody else is looking at this.
ok...so the Market Enabler trick doesn't work either.
Obviously Google Wallet recognizes our NFC chip as if I turn it off Wallet will complain that it is off until I turn it on.
I've pulled down the two OTA's that Sprint has pushed out. One of which is supposed to fix the issue on Spring S3's.
Anybody know if its possible to extract the files within the updated boot.img files and apply them somehow post boot since we can't modify the current boot.img on the phone?
If anybody is a dev or knows a dev and they wouldn't mind taking a look at this thread, please let me know.
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ok...so the Market Enabler trick doesn't work either.
Obviously Google Wallet recognizes our NFC chip as if I turn it off Wallet will complain that it is off until I turn it on.
I've pulled down the two OTA's that Sprint has pushed out. One of which is supposed to fix the issue on Spring S3's.
Anybody know if its possible to extract the files within the updated boot.img files and apply them somehow post boot since we can't modify the current boot.img on the phone?
If anybody is a dev or knows a dev and they wouldn't mind taking a look at this thread, please let me know.
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I'd love Google Wallet, but I think dev efforts are really focused on the bootloader right now.
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I'd love Google Wallet, but I think dev efforts are really focused on the bootloader right now.
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I fully agree.....however I'm sure there are plenty of people out there with the skills required to do this who aren't working on the boot loader problem.
If I knew more than I do now i'd be working on the bootloader problem myself...however my current lack of skills would only serve to impede progress so instead I'm trying to work on stuff wanted by many others.
+1 on this issue.
I just talked to Verizon who said it was Samsung's fault and I talked to Samsung who said it was Verizon's fault, regarding Google wallet not working. So sick of the nonsense.
Christ our backwoods local little country food store has NFC payments. I'm so sick of this crap this should have been our phone and working. I will not be using any Verizon payment systems, screw them.
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+1 on this issue.
I just talked to Verizon who said it was Samsung's fault and I talked to Samsung who said it was Verizon's fault, regarding Google wallet not working. So sick of the nonsense.
Christ our backwoods local little country food store has NFC payments. I'm so sick of this crap this should have been our phone and working. I will not be using any Verizon payment systems, screw them.
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Its definetly verizons fault. It works on all other carriers yet only verizons phone has the most problems and also their public support behind ISIS only adds fuel to the fire. I wish Verizon listened to their customers for once and stopped trying to control everything.
Finally got it working on my VZW S3. Video demo: http://mbchp.me/Orrdru
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Finally got it working on my VZW S3. Video demo: http://mbchp.me/Orrdru
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On a stock, rooted/modified or a cyanogenmod rom?
How did you get it to work. one of the only reason's why I miss my galaxy nexus
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1769083
Do I have to be on a rom or can I be stock rooted??
I am on stock rooted on Verizon. Followed the method in that thread a few days ago and google wallet activated and gave me my 10 bucks no problem. Plus, I used $9 bucks under my account on my gnex and still got a new $10.
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Do I have to be on a rom or can I be stock rooted??
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You can be stock. I'm stock. I got everything up and the free $10 but I was trying it at a 7 eleven and I just saw a website that shows what stores accepts it. Now to use it somewhere that accepts it and ill be a happy camper.
http://officialandroid.blogspot.com/2012/08/use-any-credit-or-debit-card-with.html
Still not available for Verizon. But, Google Wallet no longer stores the information in the secure element of the physical phone, but stores it on their servers instead.
Also, it's now available for most credit cards.
Is this going to make it easier for someone to hack it on to our Verizon phones?
Can anyone get a copy of the .apk and see what happens if you just try to sideload?
It gives the usual "blah blah google wallet is not yet supported on your network" its really sad that verizon can block it.
I downloaded the updated google wallet from the play store on my Verizon GS3 and it still says "Unfortunately, Google Wallet is not yet available for your device or mobile network."
I haven't tried the original google wallet trick but I wonder if that could work with the new update.
If Verizon is going to block it, fine, but at least have a solution for us. I don't really care what payment provider gets the money. I just want to be able to use my phone to make purchases.
Do a little research. I have the verizon sgs3 and was able to get google wallet working.
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Do a little research. I have the verizon sgs3 and was able to get google wallet working.
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So you are confirming that the previous method works with the new Google Wallet app released today?
Did you even read this thread? Google Wallet was completely revamped today.
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So you are confirming that the previous method works with the new Google Wallet app released today?
Did you even read this thread? Google Wallet was completely revamped today.
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Most likely not. I'm sure he's a tool referring to the non-updated GW and making snark tough guy remarks while simultaneously not reading.
I have a guide I made to get the latest one to work.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1810040
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I have a guide I made to get the latest one to work.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1810040
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His guide works great, even to update if you already have used Modaco's file to install originally.
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His guide works great, even to update if you already have used Modaco's file to install originally.
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Just saying to others, my guide DOES work. If you did something else to use wallet and claim afterwards its broken. Not on me. I have heard from others that updating works too. So this is a confirmed addition to my guide.
So Verizon actually responded to an fcc complaint. This is their stupid reason for blocking Google wallet. Strangely no mention if their home grown "Isis" voids this "security" thing.
androidheadlines.com/2012/12/verizon-tells-us-why-they-block-google-wallet-due-to-secure-element-requirement.html
Did you read their letter? They aren't blocking it. Google Wallet does not work with their secure element. Google can update Wallet to work with their phones anytime they want to.
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Did you read their letter? They aren't blocking it. Google Wallet does not work with their secure element. Google can update Wallet to work with their phones anytime they want to.
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Google Wallet already works on their phones. I have it running on my Galaxy S3, and I'm sure a bit of searching will show that it runs perfectly fine on other phones, as well. I installed it directly from Google Play after editing a few tags to make Google Play think that I had a different phone, so they are, indeed, blocking Google Wallet.
Yes, they were responding to my complaint.
I believe Verizon IS blocking it, because Wallet runs on the Sprint GS3, and also, members here have gotten it to run on the Verizon GS3 by simply changing a few things on their phone.
Funny how Verizon, AT&T, and T-Mobile are backing ISIS, and Google Wallet doesn't work on those companies GS3, but Sprint is NOT backing ISIS and Google Wallet works on their GS3... HMMMM..... what does that tell you?
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So Verizon actually responded to an fcc complaint. This is their stupid reason for blocking Google wallet. Strangely no mention if their home grown "Isis" voids this "security" thing.
androidheadlines.com/2012/12/verizon-tells-us-why-they-block-google-wallet-due-to-secure-element-requirement.html
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Verizon isn't the only carrier using ISIS, it is not a homegrown service.
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Did you read their letter? They aren't blocking it. Google Wallet does not work with their secure element. Google can update Wallet to work with their phones anytime they want to.
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Isis should void this "secure element" to then since it requires special hardware and such.
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Verizon isn't the only carrier using ISIS, it is not a homegrown service.
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Verizon, ATT, and T-Mobile are all backing it. Correct. But they are making their own wallet service. Therefore it is home grown. By all three of them.
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vzw knows they are right and not afraid to show it!
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its verizon against the world!
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I don't see how Verizon is right in all this...
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Google Wallet already works on their phones. I have it running on my Galaxy S3, and I'm sure a bit of searching will show that it runs perfectly fine on other phones, as well. I installed it directly from Google Play after editing a few tags to make Google Play think that I had a different phone, so they are, indeed, blocking Google Wallet.
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Exactly. The problem isn't actually running the app. Google Wallet runs fine on our phones once it's installed, the issue is that it isn't available in the PlayStore for us to download without us changing a file to fool the store into thinking we are on another phone...which allows us to proceed with the download.
Verizon is saying it won't run on the phone as it is and that's wrong...it's running fine.
The only issue is that Verizon is blocking the download.
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I don't see how Verizon is right in all this...
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Really? They think they own our equipment, when they don't.we just use their service
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You believe they're blocking it, despite them directly saying they're not? I guess you're in the we never went to the moon crowd either. Companies don't lie as much as you'd like to believe.
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Really? They think they own our equipment, when they don't.we just use their service
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That is what I was trying to say...
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You believe they're blocking it, despite them directly saying they're not? I guess you're in the we never went to the moon crowd either. Companies don't lie as much as you'd like to believe.
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I believe that they want to see their service (Isis) to succeed and since Google wallet is a competitor than they don't want it on there. Because I say that doesn't mean you can judge me. I have my opinion of a company. You have yours. The end.
I've gotten Google Wallet to work and then when I take any updates it screws up damn Verizon!
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Exactly. The problem isn't actually running the app. Google Wallet runs fine on our phones once it's installed, the issue is that it isn't available in the PlayStore for us to download without us changing a file to fool the store into thinking we are on another phone...which allows us to proceed with the download.
Verizon is saying it won't run on the phone as it is and that's wrong...it's running fine.
The only issue is that Verizon is blocking the download.
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I just wish something would happen. I couldn't get google wallet to work on mine even after I used the fix
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You believe they're blocking it, despite them directly saying they're not? I guess you're in the we never went to the moon crowd either. Companies don't lie as much as you'd like to believe.
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Verizon is being about as honest on this as Clinton was with his "it depends on what the meaning of 'is' is."
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You believe they're blocking it, despite them directly saying they're not? I guess you're in the we never went to the moon crowd either. Companies don't lie as much as you'd like to believe.
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They are blocking it, they're just doing it indirectly. Instead of saying "you cannot run Google wallet on your phone" they are telling Google that they cannot access the hardware Google wallet needs to function correctly.
Our phone has the hardware necessary to run Google wallet, but Verizon is not letting them use it.
Clearly the secure element in the nfc chip is important for this functionality or their own implementation wouldn't be using it.
They may not be flat out lying but they are being pretty dishonest.
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They're only saying that Google won't update Wallet to access the secure element, not that they're denying Google from accessing it. Companies don't operate the way y'all think. Verizon isn't blocking it, Google is. The end.
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They're only saying that Google won't update Wallet to access the secure element, not that they're denying Google from accessing it. Companies don't operate the way y'all think. Verizon isn't blocking it, Google is. The end.
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We clearly aren't reading the same letter.
Google Wallet is different from other widely-available m-commerce services in that it requires access to the device's secure element...Google is free to offer it's Google Wallet application in a manner that doesn't require integration with the secure element.
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I'm not sure how much more clear it can be that Verizon is not allowing Google to access the secure element. They want Google to modify it to NOT use the secure element so that their own mobile payment solution has an advantage.
Has anyone gotten ISIS working?
My local Verizon store swears that even though jellybean just released today that today they also revoked support for ISIS because of problems.
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Has anyone gotten ISIS working?
My local Verizon store swears that even though jellybean just released today that today they also revoked support for ISIS because of problems.
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Google Wallet works better. You should root your phone and try that
Yes I have Google wallet. Wanted to try it ISIS since I live in one of the test areas. Compare the two. Verizon fail all over the place.
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You have to have the special NFC sim cards for ISIS to work.
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Hmmm maybe I will start an Isis thread eventually...... tba
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So I picked up an nfc sim. Still nada. Can't see ISIS in mobile market and through Web says my SGS3 is incompatible. Oh well guess I won't compare and I'll just stick with Google wallet.
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Incase anyone else is interested Verizon fixed the problem overnight. So you can now install ISIS btw you don't need the nfc sim installed to install the app. Not sure about actually using /setting it up. I believe you will need that sim to do anything in the app.
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Incase anyone else is interested Verizon fixed the problem overnight. So you can now install ISIS btw you don't need the nfc sim installed to install the app. Not sure about actually using /setting it up. I believe you will need that sim to do anything in the app.
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I'm In Michigan and I installed the app but it would not let me set it up. So I tweeted to verizonsupport and they sent me a SIM card that is compatible with Isis. I received the SIM card today and setup the account. I also recieved the free ten dollars. So now i have to see if it works at a store.
I encourage everybody to pass on ISIS and the carriers bull****.
Help a n00b out... where can you actually use Isis? I have Google Wallet working on my Nexus 7 and have used it at a few places...much to the astonishment of employees and customers... but even there, very limited support.
sRDennyCrane said:
Help a n00b out... where can you actually use Isis? I have Google Wallet working on my Nexus 7 and have used it at a few places...much to the astonishment of employees and customers... but even there, very limited support.
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ISIS supports the same services (paypass, paywave, etc) that wallet supports. So basically you should be able to use it at the same locations.
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ISIS supports the same services (paypass, paywave, etc) that wallet supports. So basically you should be able to use it at the same locations.
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I just got the OTA from VZW last week and since I saw ISIS in the change list I figured I'd give it a go even though I'm in NY not SLC/Austin.
I called Verizon and they sent me a NFC SIM, and I still had trouble getting it to go but I got it eventually. It was a pain in the neck to set up and add cards but I got it going. On Amex's page about ISIS it says: "Use it where American Express contactless payments are accepted.* Just look for the universal symbol for contactless payments or signs that say "Isis Ready™."
by saying "or" it seems to imply not just in ISIS ready places like SLC/Austin, but anywhere AMEX ExPay is accepted, which is all over the country! I didn't see the same about Chase.
I'll give it a go today in NY and I'll let you know if it worked.
Overall, I must say so far, I like the app better than Google Wallet. It seems like they charge the card direct as opposed to Google which has a system of charging their virtual MC first then charging you, (This could be dis-advantageous regarding benefits that the card would give you, like bonus points at certain category merchants etc.). The only major problem is that it only takes Chase, Amex, and Cap1. but that isn't such a problem for me because I pretty much only use Chase and Amex cards.
I've got it installed, but it will not let me set it up. I live in Pittsburgh, so it may not be a test area. It's strange that it kicks me out of the app though.
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I've got it installed, but it will not let me set it up. I live in Pittsburgh, so it may not be a test area. It's strange that it kicks me out of the app though.
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Do you have a NFC SIM? you'll need one for it to work and Verizon will send you one free.
I live in New York and I haven't had an issue setting it up.
levilib said:
I just got the OTA from VZW last week and since I saw ISIS in the change list I figured I'd give it a go even though I'm in NY not SLC/Austin.
I called Verizon and they sent me a NFC SIM, and I still had trouble getting it to go but I got it eventually. It was a pain in the neck to set up and add cards but I got it going. On Amex's page about ISIS it says: "Use it where American Express contactless payments are accepted.* Just look for the universal symbol for contactless payments or signs that say "Isis Ready™."
by saying "or" it seems to imply not just in ISIS ready places like SLC/Austin, but anywhere AMEX ExPay is accepted, which is all over the country! I didn't see the same about Chase.
I'll give it a go today in NY and I'll let you know if it worked.
Overall, I must say so far, I like the app better than Google Wallet. It seems like they charge the card direct as opposed to Google which has a system of charging their virtual MC first then charging you, (This could be dis-advantageous regarding benefits that the card would give you, like bonus points at certain category merchants etc.). The only major problem is that it only takes Chase, Amex, and Cap1. but that isn't such a problem for me because I pretty much only use Chase and Amex cards.
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Update: I successfully used ISIS to pay at a Brooklyn, NY RiteAid store. I had it set to use a Amex card and I checked straight away and there was a pending charge that appeared normal (unlike Google Wallet transactions which would show up as GOOGNFC*name-of-merchant). When I tried to pay, nothing was happening, so I took off the slim case I have on the back of my phone (GW never had any problems working through this case) and then tried again. Even then nothing happened, I was about to give up and began to pull out my wallet to get a real card, when the terminal came to life and said "Processing Contacless Payment". I'm not sure if it managed to read through my case or if it only read after I removed the case, but if it's the latter, that might be due to the fact that ISIS doesn't utilize the built in NFC chip rather it uses the one embedded into the SIM which is obviously much smaller (the built in one relies on an antenna as big as the battery) and therefore has a much shorter range.
The bottom line is so far I still like it better than GW, my only concern is that it mentioned that if it detects unusual root access in the OS, it will not operate. I don't plan on staying stock unrooted for too much longer!
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Update: I successfully used ISIS to pay at a Brooklyn, NY RiteAid store. I had it set to use a Amex card and I checked straight away and there was a pending charge that appeared normal (unlike Google Wallet transactions which would show up as GOOGNFC*name-of-merchant). When I tried to pay, nothing was happening, so I took off the slim case I have on the back of my phone (GW never had any problems working through this case) and then tried again. Even then nothing happened, I was about to give up and began to pull out my wallet to get a real card, when the terminal came to life and said "Processing Contacless Payment". I'm not sure if it managed to read through my case or if it only read after I removed the case, but if it's the latter, that might be due to the fact that ISIS doesn't utilize the built in NFC chip rather it uses the one embedded into the SIM which is obviously much smaller (the built in one relies on an antenna as big as the battery) and therefore has a much shorter range.
The bottom line is so far I still like it better than GW, my only concern is that it mentioned that if it detects unusual root access in the OS, it will not operate. I don't plan on staying stock unrooted for too much longer!
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Update 2: The transaction cleared and now shows a "Isis RITEAID...." just adding the word Isis in front of what would be there anyway.
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I thought I should add, I've successfully used Isis in a lot of places and it works fine even with my case on. The last 4 digits of the credit card number used that appear on the receipt are different from the real number
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Looks like Google just updated Wallet.... Here is a link to the APK. Supposedly works on all phones post Android 2.3
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...pports-all-android-phones-across-any-carrier/
Should be in themes and app section.
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Should be in themes and app section.
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Woops... Can a mod move the thread please.
Will this work with Verizon? can anyone attach an APK?
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Will this work with Verizon? can anyone attach an APK?
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The APK download link is provided in the article. I have it running on my VZW G2. Haven't tried to pay yet though.
For those that did download it, can you try to see if NFC payments work. Google removed the NFC requirement to allow more people to use the app, just want to know if functionality was removed. I can't test on the G2 since I don't have one.
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For those that did download it, can you try to see if NFC payments work. Google removed the NFC requirement to allow more people to use the app, just want to know if functionality was removed. I can't test on the G2 since I don't have one.
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I've dl'd and it has my card information, I'll try this next I get a chance.
I think NFC payment is still blocked for those who were before. If you click the ABOUT setting you will see Tap and Pay as not availiable
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I think NFC payment is still blocked for those who were before. If you click the ABOUT setting you will see Tap and Pay as not availiable
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I had my card tied to Wallet on my Gnex, but now do not see any way to tie my card to it on my G2. I did read something about full functionality not up for all users until everything is 100% on Google's end.
I hope this update doesn't mess up my Google wallet on my S4 running the Google edition rom.
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Damn i gotta go try now. Odd thing is it didnt need nfc on to instal the app.
After you install the app and set it up go into settings then about and see of tap to pay is enabled.
This is from my S4 running Google edition ROM.
On my Verizon G2, it states that Tap and Pay is "Not Available". I tried it anyways, and it did not work.
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JJones1210 said:
On my Verizon G2, it states that Tap and Pay is "Not Available". I tried it anyways, and it did not work.
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Same here....no worky
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Same here....no worky
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Until they support secure element sims, instead of insisting the secure element is on the phone itself, I think we're out of luck.
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Until they support secure element sims, instead of insisting the secure element is on the phone itself, I think we're out of luck.
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Wallet worked on my VZW Gnex.....
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Wallet worked on my VZW Gnex.....
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Tap to pay? From what I've read elsewhere GW tap to pay needs a secure element, and this version on looks on the phone, not the sim.
It worked on my Verizon S4 too. I had to adjust the build.prop to think it was a Sprint phone, but it worked.
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It worked on my Verizon S4 too. I had to adjust the build.prop to think it was a Sprint phone, but it worked.
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It will only work on phones with embedded secure elements. i.e. VZW Galaxy S4 and VZW Galaxy Nexus