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Where to begin. I have a Sprint TP2 that I have unlocked and flashed over to verizons rom and radio. All I need to do now is have it activated on verizon's network. I am getting multiple stories from them.
1. It has to be shipped out to a lab and it will be sent back 4-6 weeks later activated.
2. It's not possible, we only active Verizon phones. Your meid is not being found in your database.
3. Certain departments can add your meid to our database. We can't
4. We cannot activate sprint phones.
I was under the impression verizon had an open network? I'm at the point of frustration. Someone tried to add it to their DB and they said that it wouldn't take. Another person said the department that handles this is not open now and that I would be emailed on monday with a follow up. I now have the number for global activations if anyone needs it.
Can anyone share any hints or tips?
Thank you.
It can be done. People do it all the time. Verizon is just giving you a load of bull. The truth is their techs either don't know the answer, or they're just not allowed to give that info out. It seems like all you would have to do is flash a valid VZ ROM & radio, deactivate old phone, then fire up new phone and do *228 option 1. As long as the ESN is valid and not flagged for some reason, then it should work.
Someone else chime in here. Need more facts
It cannot be done....
Verizon does not allow other carrier branded devices on their network.. nor Sprint. You have to have a Verizon phone from their device list... The system will not allow it.. No manager overrides.. No magical digging.. It can't happen... Tough titties on the purchase.
This is what I'm talking about. . . Everyone has a different answer. I've gotten some parts of the company that say it can be done, while others say it cant. The lower tier tech support say it can't. The higher teir tech support say it can and gave me some numbers. But the dept that can do it is closed till monday.
It's just confusing. Can we get an answer from someone who works with verizon?
Verizon does have an open network. This happened just recently maybe 6 or so months ago. If I remeber correctly the quote I read, "If it has the hardware(CDMA with the TP2 has) it will run on our netwrok.
Make sure the ROM is set to CDMA and run the *228 option it should propt you for everythign you need.
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Verizon does have an open network. This happened just recently maybe 6 or so months ago. If I remeber correctly the quote I read, "If it has the hardware(CDMA with the TP2 has) it will run on our netwrok.
Make sure the ROM is set to CDMA and run the *228 option it should propt you for everythign you need.
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It will not activate as the ESN is not in their database. I had a form, which was to be filled out, signed by your local Verizon store, then shipped with the phone to their "verification" center. Once they "verified" it they told me it would be added to their database. I decided not to jump through all the hoops though, since it was a TP and I now have a TP2 on Sprint.
Now I'm being told Sprint has a hold on the ESN, so I have to get sprint to release the ESN, then I'll be in business.
azyouthinkeyeiz said:
It cannot be done....
Verizon does not allow other carrier branded devices on their network.. nor Sprint. You have to have a Verizon phone from their device list... The system will not allow it.. No manager overrides.. No magical digging.. It can't happen... Tough titties on the purchase.
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Thats a load of bull tbh. Sprint is an open device network. As long as your radio supports the frequency they will hook it up. You may have to do the legwork and read a few threads but Sprint nor verizon refuses to hook up a CDMA device. Ive done it myself many times. They will however refuse to support the device or insure it. Basicly you are on your own.
I just got a deal on a Sprint touch pro 2. Bought 2 for 350 cash. Gave one to my brother who is now using it on Verizon and myself on Sprint.
How the **** did he do it?????????????????????????????????
Does Verizon have online chat that pops up on their site?
I've found that the chat people many times seem to know more about what they're doing than people on the phone. But that may just be my experience with Sprint.
IT IS POSSIBLE. I own a Sprint Touch Pro I activated onto Verizon. Verizon employees will always tell you no. Verizon lies to you so you will only buy one of their phones. VERIZON WILL NOT ACTIVATE IT. YOU HAVE TO ACTIVATE IT YOURSELF by calling the phone number *228. When they automated call starts reading out your options press option 3. Then it will ask you for your 10 digit telephone number. Then it will ask you for your billing account password (usually 4 digits). Then the music should play for a couple minutes while your phone is being programmed. Then your phone will reboot and walah complete .
"unfortunatly we are unable to complete your request"
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Just to save you some time and grief “it will not work”. If the ESN/MEID is not in Verizon's Data base it cannot be activates. Take this case and point about the open network (Which by the way was ever really stated by the company as being in effect.) If you have and Alltel device it cannot be activated on a Verizon plan.
I understand.
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Thats a load of bull tbh. Sprint is an open device network. As long as your radio supports the frequency they will hook it up. You may have to do the legwork and read a few threads but Sprint nor verizon refuses to hook up a CDMA device. Ive done it myself many times. They will however refuse to support the device or insure it. Basicly you are on your own.
I just got a deal on a Sprint touch pro 2. Bought 2 for 350 cash. Gave one to my brother who is now using it on Verizon and myself on Sprint.
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Um... I personally know to be a fact, being as I am a Sprint Repair Tech. There is no way to activate a phone onto the Sprint Network that is not on our list...
Nothing you say will make that any different.. Have a picture of this Verizon phone on Sprint??? Because I know its a load...
I have activated a Verizon Touch Pro on pageplus wireless, they use the nationwide verizon towers and data settings. Page Plus wireless does allow any ESN's to be inputted into their system. Google for more info.
wow. wow. wow. I feel your pain on this issue. all you need s to have the device loaded into VZW dmd(device management database). To do that you have two options: first. you can contact the open device ppl but doing that you'll have to send the phone out for 4-6 weeks. or two you can pray you find a way to contact the marketing team where they can load your meid into the database. after that you're set.
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If I remember correctly the quote I read, "If it has the hardware(CDMA with the TP2 has) it will run on our network.
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you should take some memory pills because what you remember is very wrong.
read http://mobile.engadget.com/2009/01/06/verizons-open-hardware-compatibility-list-is-insanely-boring/ and http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Verizons-Open-Development-Initiative-So-Far-Its-A-Joke-100102
For those of you out there that are planning on buying a Sprint Touch Pro to use on Verizon's network, the switch over instructions on this site are no longer valid. Go to the last few pages and you'll see why. The phone can NOT be activated on Verizons network any longer. The *228 option 3 hole has been plugged up. Apparently they figured out how to piss us off again earlier this week.
If you have a Sprint Touch Pro that's already on the VZW network, you're safe for the moment. Just don't attempt to switch phones and then try and go back to using your Sprint branded Touch Pro. It just flat out won't activate.
Some have rumored that they have been able to convince Verizon to add the ESN from their phone to the VZW database, but it doesn't sound like many have much success with it.
It can be done, I do it all the time via *228. You need to reprogram the phone with the correct EPST & MSL codes. A few times I've gotten a message saying the automated system cannot activate my phone and I was forced to talk to a rep to get them to activate it, but they usually don't give too much hassle.
Yesterday, I received a new StraightTalk MicroSIM (ATT compatible) for my new Nexus 5. I have been using a StraightTalk T-Mobile compatible one that I used in my old phone. I activated the new SIM, using the automated phone system. This morning I saw that my phone still had no service. That is, zero bars, I cannot make calls or text. Of course data doesn't work either. I logged into my account and it said that the transfer to the new SIM is complete. So I called StraightTalk and was transferred 5 times to people who did the same trouble shooting with me every time. Their trouble shooting: power off your phone, take out your SIM and then start it back up. Then they said they need to send me a new SIM card.... Here is my issue, I feel like they don't know what they are doing so their answer is just to send me another SIM.
My question: Did anyone else have this experience or ideas on getting the phone to work? I've tried different APNs with no different results.
Okay, this is odd. I figured, since I won't have phone service for a while, I would root my phone. After I rooted my phone, everything works. I can make calls and data works. Not sure what changed but when the device was rooted, it also did a factory reset. After 50 minutes of crappy customer service, I think I'll just take the new SIM card they are sending.
Takes a while for them to activate it sometimes. I was with customer services for 2 hours trying to activate my Sim card because it wouldn't let me online.
Their customer service, signal penetration might suck, but it's way cheaper, which I'm good with.
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I wonder if maybe that is what happened but I think it probably had to do with the factory reset.
I do want to post one final thing since everything has played out today... On the phone I asked them to expedite the package since this is my work phone and ONLY phone. Today, FedEx delivered a new SIM card... it was the card only. No other packaging or information. It was the wrong SIM... I needed a micro and they sent a regular SIM... but at least they tried. After receiving the SIM today, I don't feel so bad about the situation. Things may have been different if my phone didn't miraculously start working. I would have had to cut down the regular sized SIM... to find out if it is an ATT or Tmobile version... it's probably the Tmobile versions, since I ordered the ATT version. Thats how things go... have a good day!
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*** I'm going to keep posting my experience, in case anyone else can find the information useful. ***
My service should have Auto-Refilled today. However, when I went to make a call, I found out my service was deactivated. I thought maybe Auto-Refill was disabled when I transferred to the new microSIM. Unfortunately, after spending another 45 minutes on the phone with customer service, I found out that they activated the replacement SIM that they sent me... the one that doesn't fit my phone and appears to be a Tmobile SIM. So, instead of just re-activating the microSIM that was working yesterday, they have to send me another one. I confirmed with them that they will be sending an AT&T compatible microSIM. We will see what I receive.
Starting this October, PagePlus is offering 4G/LTE. Initially, I was assuming that all I need to do is plug in an LTE SIM card and activate account, and all will be peachy. However, it seems that by flashing phone to pageplus when it looks like a 3g device, I have messed up some radio settings, and verizon provisioning doesn't work, phone repeatedly keeps trying to call *228. Contrary to that, the other S3, which I didn't flash does not call at all, but instead pops up message box stating that the phone is being programmed, and after a couple minutes it's online . I do not remember what exactly did I program, it was awhile ago . Pageplus support knows that problem, and they are advising anybody who wants to go LTE to bring up an unflashed phone, saying the flashed one won't work
There are folks on kitty forums who offer remote de-flashing for 30 bucks, but no description what actually they do. Does anyone know what the process is? I can get my phone into QPST/DFS. Anyone knows what to do next?
UPDATE: see post #3 for solution
Can't help you with deflashing, but I will tell you that my local page plus vendor did mine for free and it only took him about 5-10 minutes. Maybe yours would do the same. Just a thought.
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I guess it indeed is simple once you get to QPST mode. I used DFS to program, and the only setting I had to change was RuimConfig = RuimOnly (from NV_ONLY), see screenshot attached. Did not work on 4.0 firmware which I tried to use first, but worked fine on 4.2.1 and 4.1.2.
I got a sim card for my phone. All I did was verify that my phone was on RuimOnly (it already was), then I contacted PagePlus to activate my simcard (you're supposed to do this before you put it in your phone, they say) and they remotely programmed the phone, everything went smoothly. I have 4g data now, no "unflashing" required. Pretty easy. :good:
You put it on your phone before, you want this set up, then you can use the phone, so no problem.
Confirmed
I can confirm this works. I switched 2 samsung galaxy note 2 SCH-i605 from 3g to 4g.
The phones were originally flashed over to pageplus using wireless workshop. This puts them on pageplus as 3g phones. They drop the last digit of the MEID so it is a 14 digit code (3g) instead of 15 digit for 4G.
Here's what I did to get 4G LTE working.
Ordered a pageplus SIM card from pageplus
put the simcard in the phone
Used DFS to change RUIM from NV_Only to RUIM_only
Contacted Pageplus on chat and had them change my phone from 3g to 4g. I'm not sure exactly what they did, but I gave them the 15 digit MEID and the SIM ICCID (printed on the sim card you get, or look in settings, about device, details or something like that, you know where to look. ) The customer service rep said that what you need to tell them is you want to change a 3g phone to 4g. I told them it was back to standard firmware just to make them happy. It seems the RUIM changes is all you need.
Voila! Reboot the phone, give it a minute - it connects to 4G and then disconnects and looks like it has failed, but give it a minute and it comes up with 4G LTE and speedtest.net confirms it is blazing fast.
Loving it!
This is only required for a verizon phone that has been flashed in the past to make 3g work on Pageplus. Not needed on contract phones from verizon that are originally 4g.
Happy downloading!
galets said:
I guess it indeed is simple once you get to QPST mode. I used DFS to program, and the only setting I had to change was RuimConfig = RuimOnly (from NV_ONLY), see screenshot attached. Did not work on 4.0 firmware which I tried to use first, but worked fine on 4.2.1 and 4.1.2.[/QUOTE I did that but i do not have 4g and imwe in a 4g coverage area. using a mxx xt912. any help is appreciated
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Gift for a friend
hi everyone,
I have a few questions based on my circumstances. I just deactivated a S3 Verizon from PagePlus which was flashed to 3g. I would like to hand my phone off to a friend as he's running a Droid X (!).
1. From what I understand to "unflash" I need to use DFS (cdmatool.com) and set Ruim config to RuimOnly. However, I believe the phone needs to be in QPST mode? I'm not entirely sure how to do this. Can someone point me in the right direction?
2. Since I already deactivated the phone, when my friend tries to re-activate on pageplus (with a new SIM), do we need to contact PP and tell them this device is now 4g?
3. Does it matter that I have a custom ROM running 4.3? I don't think so, but would like confirmation.
I really don't want to mess up this gift.
Thanks for any and all advice!
Dapeche said:
1. From what I understand to "unflash" I need to use DFS (cdmatool.com) and set Ruim config to RuimOnly. However, I believe the phone needs to be in QPST mode? I'm not entirely sure how to do this. Can someone point me in the right direction?
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In general, this is done via USBSettings dialog, see if this thread helps you to get this menu enabled: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2227576
I have a i605 currently flashed to page plus 3g can't write with dfs without spec and I can't seem to get it can anybody point me in the right direction
I'm dumb figured it all out except page plus they keep saying I have to go to a dealer I said I am no longer flash but they keep telling to have a dealer manually flash it.....?
Update got everything working once I was in ruim only I called them at told them I had two phones and gave them the full imied as my second phone then the iccid and voila activation was a breeze
Hey M8 crew!
New to the M8, just bought the phone from swappa. Apparently it has root/s-off/some lollipop build installed on it. Clean ESN.
Took it into verizon to activate it on my line, but the sim doesn't appear to activate as they expect. It detects that it was inserted, says to reboot, after reboot still says no service, and never performs any activation. Verizon rep was claiming that the rom was causing the failures, and it does appear to likely be software related if it is never launching the activation. VZW tech support was no help other than saying it may take up to 12 hours to activate the sim (bs meter going off). Spent 2 hours in the store trying to get it to activate, saying everything was fine on their end. Tried a couple sims in store to rule out a bad sim. Have even tried the tape on the sim trick to see if that might have something to do with it.
Has anyone ever seen / heard of this sort of situation before and have any idea of how to fix it?
Would a stock RUU flash help out in anyway?
Is it because it is not a verizon rom that the activation is not happening? Would I somehow be able to use a different verizon phone to activate the sim, then put it in my phone and have service start working?
Any ideas?
nectur said:
Hey M8 crew!
New to the M8, just bought the phone from swappa. Apparently it has root/s-off/some lollipop build installed on it. Clean ESN.
Took it into verizon to activate it on my line, but the sim doesn't appear to activate as they expect. It detects that it was inserted, says to reboot, after reboot still says no service, and never performs any activation. Verizon rep was claiming that the rom was causing the failures, and it does appear to likely be software related if it is never launching the activation. VZW tech support was no help other than saying it may take up to 12 hours to activate the sim (bs meter going off). Spent 2 hours in the store trying to get it to activate, saying everything was fine on their end. Tried a couple sims in store to rule out a bad sim. Have even tried the tape on the sim trick to see if that might have something to do with it.
Has anyone ever seen / heard of this sort of situation before and have any idea of how to fix it?
Would a stock RUU flash help out in anyway?
Is it because it is not a verizon rom that the activation is not happening? Would I somehow be able to use a different verizon phone to activate the sim, then put it in my phone and have service start working?
Any ideas?
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If the phone was used on another carrier it might be stuck in a non lte/CDMA mode. Flash stock vzw ruu. Do a factory reset. Go into mobile settings and make sure it's set to global. Then see if default network is set to vzw. Then check provisioning.
That did it. Thanks!
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That did it. Thanks!
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Np...bought an m8 for my dad a couple months back and same thing happened. I finally realized it was used on a different carrier.
Question about Selectel Flash. Selectel Sims etc. I apologize up front if this is the wrong section for this thread. I posted as a reply in the General Section Thread about MVNO's but I believe that thread is dead or closed. If this breaks any rules of XDA please let me know and delete this thread. If is is forbidden I apologize up front. And I know this is a TLDR post, but please if you know anything about these matters, please read this post if you might be able to help. And if you just need some info about someone's experience trying to get cheap android phone service keep reading. Maybe you'll learn something from me.
I let a local selectel "dealer" flash my phone to Selectel a while back in Jan sometime. About a month or so later he had to re-flash the phone. Because I couldn't make calls at all. He said this was because the guy working for him did the flash incorrectly and so he fixed it. After reading up on Flashing a bit but still not knowing enough about it, I decided to start using a partition backup tool from the store to backup a slew of partitions including EFS, and all the Modem* partitions. I backed up a bunch of others as well, just not data, system, or cache. He left the VZW sim in.
Now since then, I've flashed a number of roms. And sometimes I'd have an issue where my number and other info in status would be gone. At this point I restore EFS, usually just this one partition and everything would be back to normal. Selectel Number and everything else would work. Now I'm having this issue again but my info is in there. This time, I can't make or receive calls or texts in my home "roaming on a regional tower" area. This always worked fine before. Now at home it says Voice out of service / Data in service. This is at home. When I drive 20 minutes up the road to some different but still not verizon towers I believe, I can make and receive calls just fine. Also in the guys shop using his extender, I can make and receive calls fine. He gave me a T-mobile sim, for what I don't know, but this didn't fix anything. Now he's expecting to receive his selectel SIMS and says that might fix my issue. If not I'll have to do another flash. I can't afford to pay for another flash, being laid off work and unemployed I can barely afford the 15 dollar plan for selectel.
Anyway, I'm wondering if anyone else has came across this issue, and if so do I need to reflash? Is there a way I can fix it myself? I have downloaded a bunch of tools for windows mostly (I use linux mainly, but dual boot into windows for AutoCAD and other things that just don't work well in Linux). I've seen a ton of flashing tools online as well many of which seem to do the job automagically almost. Any suggestions? I was thinking PRL.. Of course, but after reading the first few posts of this thread, i saw the don't try to OTA program information. One guy at the store actually recommended doing that but I didn't. he said *22891 to update roaming which I think is the PRL.
Any Help will be appreciated as always. If anyone here can fix it remotely cheap, let me know. Also, he's blaming my Kitkat rom. I've used this KitKat and others in the past with no Issue at all. But for ****s and giggles, I restored a TW 4.3, the latest Alliance Rom, to no avail. it does the exact same thing. I can use the phone in town or near an extender but not anywhere that I might roam.
Thanks a bunch.
griz
Update since my original post:
I've talked to both selectel and the local selectel dealer, the dealer said his selectel sims are in but won't be ready for a few more days. I'm guessing but don't know for sure, that this could fix my isssues. I doubt it.
I restored a nandroid of a stock based rom (alliance), to try to update the PRL over the air a while back while I was in an area where I knew there would be Verizon towers. It wouldn't update because I didn't have a sim inserted. The dealer took my Verizon SIM and gave me a t-mo sim which didn't help anything at all. I stopped by there Sat 05-23-15 and he gave me a verizon sim to see if it would update using his network extender. I do know he does activation over the extender because I've been there when he's done this. He activated a dumb phone in this manner. I'm very frustrated at this because I need a permanent number to use for job contacts and my home based business doing freelance IT work. I'm not 100& sure the PRL is the issue but it seems that way because I can make calls and receive texts as soon as I get near a VZW tower or extender. At home however where there's only a regional carrier called Appalachian Wireless, it just roams, and says Voice out of service / Data in Service. And as soon as I get away from a Verizon Tower the phone will say this in About Phone / Status.
All my original data should be there because everything show's up correctly in About Phone, My IMEI, MEID, MIN, and Number are correct. He did have to flash the phone to get it to have 3g, so the MEID that shows up isn't for an S3. My IMEI is the one that came with the phone. I asked him and selectel about the legality of flashing the phone and having a donar MEID number or whatever and both said that's fine. They acted like it was completely legal, I'm not so sure. But again, both Selectel and the Dealer told me it was Okay to do that.
I've found some software on here that I can use to update my PRL with a downloaded one but I didn't know what SPC to put in for Selectel I know that with VZW it's all zeros's. Selectel customer service couldn't tell me this and told me to ask the dealer, I did and he said I could use all zero's as well.
I'm wondering if anyone has any suggestions at all, and if you think that once I get a Selectel SIM if it will work. The local dealer told me after I asked, that it would contain all my information, like those numbers I mentioned before and that it could fix it, but of course he says I've messed it up by flashing my phone. The thing is. I have lost all my info after flashing a rom in the past. However, I use a partition tool to backup EFS and other partitions and when I restore the EFS, (from when it was working and roaming), everything worked fine. Also, I know that I've used the rom he questioned in the past with success. I've tried Nameless, Slimroms, Liquid, and a few Lollipop roms with success as long as I restore the aforementioned data when necessary. Doing nvrestore (I had already done nvbackup long ago), doesn't help,. in fact it wipes everything out and I have to manually restore the EFS partition.
I understand that the PRL isn't the answer to everything but it's the only thing I can think of that would affect roaming. I have read that you shouldn't do any kind of OTA activation using *22890 *228 and so on but that I can use *22891 according to both Selectel and the dealer. The dealer wants to reflash the phone for 35 dollars which I can't afford at the moment. I can barely scrape up the 15 dollars for the cheap selectel plan.
On antoher note: I tried using an X2 with tracfone which worked great but wouldn't roam either. Kinda like what i'm experiencing right now. After calling Tracfone, I was told that none of the BYOP Android phones would roam. And one of their reps said their android phones like the Moto E wouldn't roam on non vzw towers either, because before I had my sgs3 flashed to seletel, I was going to get a Moto E Tracfone from Ebay with 2000 minutes and a year of service for 89.99 when they first came out. I didn't want to spend the money on it if it wouldn't roam. Does anyone know if this is in fact true, I can't see tracfone selling android's that won't roam. But I suppose they do. I was then told when I got a partial refund from Tracfone that only their Dumb phones would roam on non-vzw towers but again, this doesn't make good business sense nor does it make asnse at all. I've found a decent Net10 android at a dollar store (Moto E) I believe, for 79 on sale, but again, if it won't roam then it's worthless to me. Any Experience with this? I've searched and searched the internet for information on this subject to no avail. Especially the "Voice out of Service / Data in Service" message in Status.
Again, if I'm not in the correct section please let me know. Finally, I'm very sorry I'm so long winded. but those that know me know I'm long winded in every post I put up here. Sorry about that. I know I know TLDR, but I hope someone reads this and knows a thing or two about this.
Thanks once more.
griz