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Why is unlocking the bootloader neccessary?

It seems like the bootloader being unlocked is the determining factor in development and implementation of roms/themes for this phone and I dont understand why. I know that unlocking the bootloader allows for some things like overclocking and other tweaks to be done that otherwise could not, but I dont understand why that effects the ability for us to get a working recovery and to be able to flash various mods, including roms and themes. My SE X10 didnt have a locked bootloader and I had xRecovery/WB v6.0 rom/Envy theme and various mods flashed to it just fine.
They ended up being able to unlock the bootloader but I never did it so my phone surely wasnt as fast as those with unlocked bootloader/custom kernel/oc but it was noticeably faster than it was stock so im wondering why we cant have the same on this phone? Aside from the part of not having a working recovery with which to flash them.
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916x10 said:
It seems like the bootloader being unlocked is the determining factor in development and implementation of roms/themes for this phone and I dont understand why. I know that unlocking the bootloader allows for some things like overclocking and other tweaks to be done that otherwise could not, but I dont understand why that effects the ability for us to get a working recovery and to be able to flash various mods, including roms and themes. My SE X10 didnt have a locked bootloader and I had xRecovery/WB v6.0 rom/Envy theme and various mods flashed to it just fine.
They ended up being able to unlock the bootloader but I never did it so my phone surely wasnt as fast as those with unlocked bootloader/custom kernel/oc but it was noticeably faster than it was stock so im wondering why we cant have the same on this phone? Aside from the part of not having a working recovery with which to flash them.
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the x10 modding was very dirty to say the least. if you've ever had a g1 or nexus device, you would see how much easier and less potential for problems involved with an unlocked bootloader. the bootloader allows for custom kernels and radios to be installed easily.

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svtfmook said:
the x10 modding was very dirty to say the least. if you've ever had a g1 or nexus device, you would see how much easier and less potential for problems involved with an unlocked bootloader. the bootloader allows for custom kernels and radios to be installed easily.
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Less potential for problems? Unlocking the bootloader was the only way I could brick the x10. With a locked bootloader I could do whatever I wanted without fear of bricking it. Saying the modding was dirty doesnt mean anything to me, please explain. I never had any issues with the mods on that phone, it was inredibly better after running Wolfbreaks rom, thats one of the 2 reasons I even kept that phone as long as I did. Im just trying to understand why we need our bootlocker unlocked to get a rom on it. The Bionic bootloader is still locked but they have roms for it. I just dont understand.
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916x10 said:
Less potential for problems? Unlocking the bootloader was the only way I could brick the x10. With a locked bootloader I could do whatever I wanted without fear of bricking it. Saying the modding was dirty doesnt mean anything to me, please explain. I never had any issues with the mods on that phone, it was inredibly better after running Wolfbreaks rom, thats one of the 2 reasons I even kept that phone as long as I did. Im just trying to understand why we need our bootlocker unlocked to get a rom on it. The Bionic bootloader is still locked but they have roms for it. I just dont understand.
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i mean less problems with a custom rom or problems for the devs trying to adapt to a non custom kernel. sure, unlocking the bootloader opens up the potential of bricking your device.

svtfmook said:
i mean less problems with a custom rom or problems for the devs trying to adapt to a non custom kernel. sure, unlocking the bootloader opens up the potential of bricking your device.
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So its harder to dev a rom for a stock kernel than it is for a custom one? You wouldnt think that would be the case but then again Ive never developed anything so what do I know?
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916x10 said:
So its harder to dev a rom for a stock kernel than it is for a custom one? You wouldnt think that would be the case but then again Ive never developed anything so what do I know?
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If its based off of a stock rom, its fine. But if you try to port a cm rom, miui or sdk port, its rough
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svtfmook said:
If its based off of a stock rom, its fine. But if you try to port a cm rom, miui or sdk port, its rough
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That's exactly what Wolfbreaks rom was, a debloated, tweaked version of the stock rom. Even that was noticeably better than stock so i'm wondering if we could at least get that. It would be better than nothing, right?

but its not like we really need a debloated version of the stock rom. the phone is already extremely fast and most of the bloatware that we have can be uninstalled so what is the point? to waste the developers time just to give us something that will pretty much be same thing just barely be faster?

One reason would be to OC. Would love to see how fast she performs OC to 1.2 plus I'd like to see CyanogenMod on top of ICS

That and I'd like to have Sense. I miss having my HD2 with the Desire stock rom

travisxcore said:
That and I'd like to have Sense. I miss having my HD2 with the Desire stock rom
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you wont see sense on this device....pipe dreams dude. if you want sense, go buy an HTC device....

kindacrazyazn said:
but its not like we really need a debloated version of the stock rom. the phone is already extremely fast and most of the bloatware that we have can be uninstalled so what is the point? to waste the developers time just to give us something that will pretty much be same thing just barely be faster?
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That's pretty obvious seeing as how we can get rid of most of the bloat out of the box. That you would even think that's what i'm requesting somebody do is quite ridiculous, then to type it out and post it even more so.
Wolfbreak and many other devs who contributed tweaks/mods to comprise his rom did waaaay more than debloat, LMAO.
I don't think anyone can say how much faster/smoother the rom will or won't be compared to stock until the work gets done....Wolfbreaks rom made the X10 noticeably faster on locked bootloader, I can only imagine what he could accomplish on the Atrix 2. But i'm not trying to insist anyone do anything for this phone, I was just questioning why everyone seemed to feel we needed to unlock the bootloader before we could get custom roms on the phone. I was expecting to hear some technological explanation about how it's not possible to apply the changes needed with a custom rom due to certain necessary files being unaccessible due to the bootloader being locked. But it just seeems it's a choice being made by the devs who want the full on custom rom/kernel experience instead of at least taking baby steps and tweaking the stock rom to get the most out of it until the bootloader unlock becomes available.
I'm sure there is lots of performance that can be unleashed with the right mods to the stock rom.....but I guess that's kind of putting the carriage before the horse seeing as how we don't even have a way to flash it if someone did do something.

916x10 said:
That's pretty obvious seeing as how we can get rid of most of the bloat out of the box. That you would even think that's what i'm requesting somebody do is quite ridiculous, then to type it out and post it even more so.
Wolfbreak and many other devs who contributed tweaks/mods to comprise his rom did waaaay more than debloat, LMAO.
I don't think anyone can say how much faster/smoother the rom will or won't be compared to stock until the work gets done....Wolfbreaks rom made the X10 noticeably faster on locked bootloader, I can only imagine what he could accomplish on the Atrix 2. But i'm not trying to insist anyone do anything for this phone, I was just questioning why everyone seemed to feel we needed to unlock the bootloader before we could get custom roms on the phone. I was expecting to hear some technological explanation about how it's not possible to apply the changes needed with a custom rom due to certain necessary files being unaccessible due to the bootloader being locked. But it just seeems it's a choice being made by the devs who want the full on custom rom/kernel experience instead of at least taking baby steps and tweaking the stock rom to get the most out of it until the bootloader unlock becomes available.
I'm sure there is lots of performance that can be unleashed with the right mods to the stock rom.....but I guess that's kind of putting the carriage before the horse seeing as how we don't even have a way to flash it if someone did do something.
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ya i am not trying to say you are wrong or anything. i probably just don't know because when i had my first android phone i rooted and went straight to cm6 at the time and it was extremely fast compared to stock. almost anything was faster than stock too. personally if i were to flash a different ROM i would go with something alittle different from stock. that is why i would root it in the first place. OC and other tweaks like signal dbm and battery percent in the status bar would help a lot too but i guess it takes them alittle time to do that. i am excited to be able to overclock though. seeing that the sg2 can overclock to 1.8 Ghz makes me jealous.

kindacrazyazn said:
ya i am not trying to say you are wrong or anything. i probably just don't know because when i had my first android phone i rooted and went straight to cm6 at the time and it was extremely fast compared to stock. almost anything was faster than stock too. personally if i were to flash a different ROM i would go with something alittle different from stock. that is why i would root it in the first place. OC and other tweaks like signal dbm and battery percent in the status bar would help a lot too but i guess it takes them alittle time to do that. i am excited to be able to overclock though. seeing that the sg2 can overclock to 1.8 Ghz makes me jealous.
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Wow, thats a crazy OC!
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Pirateghost said:
you wont see sense on this device....pipe dreams dude. if you want sense, go buy an HTC device....
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Hey a man can dream, wouldnt be the first time Ive seen Sense on a non-HTC phone.
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916x10 said:
Wow, thats a crazy OC!
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I agree. I was like flipping out when I saw the article on xda and was thinking if I should have bought the sg2 but ATRIX 2 for life! Haha
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You really can't beat the Atrix 2 for the price though. Most of us got it for $50. This thing can hit 1.2ghz for sure, the droid razr is using the same chip and being shipped at 1.2. We could probably even make it to 1.4-5 once its unlocked.

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You really can't beat the Atrix 2 for the price though. Most of us got it for $50. This thing can hit 1.2ghz for sure, the droid razr is using the same chip and being shipped at 1.2. We could probably even make it to 1.4-5 once its unlocked.
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I can't wait for that day. I am also looking forward to the day when we get ics and more ROMs. I miss flashing new ROMs.
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kindacrazyazn said:
I can't wait for that day. I am also looking forward to the day when we get ics and more ROMs. I miss flashing new ROMs.
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Same here! Although im kinda skurred about the oc thing. Oc = heat, increasing the heat
is decreasing the life of the device. I dunno, im just skurred!
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Should I root my phone?

Dear users
I find myself confused, since i have a galaxy s2 i9100M, people said that extra M makes no differences and is treated as i9100, but im on contract with bell on CAnada, what happens if i root my phone and change some roms, kernels, etc.
Will it cause any touble with my contract??
THNKS!
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Wont cause any problems until you break the phone and send it for repairs because rooting will void your warranty. Contract wise....no, dont worry at all.

fenchai said:
Dear users
I find myself confused, since i have a galaxy s2 i9100M, people said that extra M makes no differences and is treated as i9100, but im on contract with bell on CAnada, what happens if i root my phone and change some roms, kernels, etc.
Will it cause any touble with my contract??
THNKS!
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Like what Deniska11 said , Rooting voids your warranty . If you want to root , you should be careful and not brick your phone . I root because I want to install customs roms and kernels so that i can overclock my phone to play games that wasn't smooth on my phone last time . So , actually , there's a risk to rooting . It'd be better that if you're happy with what you have now , it's best to not root . C:

Yes sure! U should root Ur phone... Even just for the TitaniumBackup.

Hi, imh and noob opinion
I've been reading a lot since I register in XDA,... just to help me understand what I want to do.
Keeping in mind that everything will be ok once we follow the guides and so on, don't root just for the thrill.
Root if you are going to take advantage of it; and before doing it, backup all your stuff.
Cheers.

rmanuelb said:
Hi, imh and noob opinion
I've been reading a lot since I register in XDA,... just to help me understand what I want to do.
Keeping in mind that everything will be ok once we follow the guides and so on, don't root just for the thrill.
Root if you are going to take advantage of it; and before doing it, backup all your stuff.
Cheers.
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Really good answer.
Unrooting is as easy as rooting, and you should get your warranty back. I rooted from recovery mode using a simple zip file. Really easy once you know what you are doing. Unrooting is basicly the same.
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Don't be afraid of the thanks button!

Do it!
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If the warranty/bricking scares you, I'd simply read a couple of tutorials and experiences. It's not that hard nor scary, but it gives a lot in return

You should root to get extra features and be able to change roms but if you are still under waranty I wouldn't really recomend it so that you won't have any problems during the repair or exhange of your phone
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About the M after i9100 you can read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1476302
but basically it says that is about bell's and virgin firmware and that after you flashed another rom it will became an I9100

Just do it
Rooting means you will get access to the internal system files(like an ADMIN of a computer)It will void your warranty
But rooting there are many advantages such as installing roms and kernel Over clocking etc. Some applicatoins like Avast(anti-theft),Titanium backup need root access.

The good thing about galaxy s devices is that they're practically un-brickable, so i wouldn't worry too much about ruining your phone. As far as custom roms and fun little hacks go, I'd say rooting is without any shadow of a doubt worth it. and once you start... you just can't stop

Rooting unlocking boot-loader installing any custom rom will loose your guarantee but it will get the best out off your device

Do it! I have an old HTC Desire and after I rooted it (and did the S-Off, for my phone) I went from the original 2.2 through cyanogenmod 6, 7 and now testing the beta of Ice Cream Sandwich..
rooting your phone will almost surely invalid your warranty but will permit very easy backups/restores (via apps like TitaniumBackup or full nandroid backups via cust recovery) and a pletora of advanced usage like firewall, transparent proxy and so on..

Thanks guys! I already rooted my phone, and it went so far so good, but i feel like custom roms are better than samsung base roms because of the customization but battery life is awful...just what do you recommend me to do?
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fenchai said:
Thanks guys! I already rooted my phone, and it went so far so good, but i feel like custom roms are better than samsung base roms because of the customization but battery life is awful...just what do you recommend me to do?
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What Rom are you using? My battery life is actually better with the custom rom I'm running on my i727.

Well i was on hydrogenICS but since battery like on aokp roms are always so bad i switched to wanamlite v11.1 and batery life when lockscreen is off is super dupper cool...like 10 hours for it to drop...but when you are using it to surf web or play a game, battery life drops down as fast as in any aokp based rom... thats why not everyrom is perfect xD
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Türkçe biliyorsan eğer telefonunu root edebilmek için forumlara bakman gerekiyor.

Obviously!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You should OBVIOUSLY ROOT YOUR PHONE cause there are many benefits :-
1)You can overclock your CPU to make your phone a lot faster!!!
2)You can install Apps like titanium Backup(Which Allows you to backup your apps),
Screenshot ER(To take screenshots of ur phone screen),ROM Manager(This app allows you to download Custom ROMS,Flash Clockworkmod recovery and create NANDROID aka your stock rom backup)and many more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
3)You can use ChainFire 3D to control the highly powerful GPUS(Graphical processing units)!!!!!!!!!!!!

Do it!
I have a Samsung Galaxy S i9000M(on Bell) from Canada and when I first started messing around with custom roms and rooting I messed my phone up pretty bad(my own fault) I sent it in and they just put the original firmware on it and I got it back at no cost! So ya I wouldn't worry to much.

[Q] why root? flash?

i am new to the one s but not to flashing. i am coming from a galaxy s sprint epic. while i was on that, cm10.1 & 10.2 were great advancements to the stock gb which always seems to take forever for updates. but with this huge leap in smartphone power, do i really need to root & flash? even with all the bloatware that i don't use, the phone is very fast. and i can get two days easily from my battery (which i charge every night so that's not an issue). i used to flash just to have the latest but i think i just want functionality. also, i don't put that much on my phone so 16g should be plenty, even with all the bloatware. not that i wouldn't flash to get better use out of my device but i just don't think i need to. please convince my otherwise.

Root just to try new roms or mods that improve your experience. Otherwise no need
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The stock experience is great IMO. Only point in rooting is to remove bloatware
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I'm surprised--
You joined in 2008 and still posted in wrong section
You have flashed roms before and still curious to the benefits of rooting
No disrespect--just a thread you would expect a new member/user to start
Either way, Happy New Year to you and all--

thedarkside44 said:
Root just to try new roms or mods that improve your experience. Otherwise no need
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Once youve been rooted, you cant be without root, regardless of ROM.
There are plenty of benefits in rooting even on stock roms.
Infact, a non-rooted device is like a windows PC with only access to your desktop...

rugmankc said:
I'm surprised--
You joined in 2008 and still posted in wrong section
You have flashed roms before and still curious to the benefits of rooting
No disrespect--just a thread you would expect a new member/user to start
Either way, Happy New Year to you and all--
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should i have posted in Q&A? i thought i did. i even had to go through statistics to see where i started this thread because i couldn't find it in Q&A. if i should've posted somewhere else, whoops, feel free to move.

Goatshocker said:
Once youve been rooted, you cant be without root, regardless of ROM.
There are plenty of benefits in rooting even on stock roms.
Infact, a non-rooted device is like a windows PC with only access to your desktop...
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explain why?

why?
i guess i wasn't clear. i know the benefits of root. i've been flashing roms on my last 3 devices. the answers i was trying get were more along the lines of what are the main changes people are making to their stock phones. does all the bloatware inhibit speed or limit space? are there roms or tweeks that people can't live without? or do people unlock, root and flash just because they like to mess with their phones/have the latest even if it doesn't work correctly?

only1penny said:
should i have posted in Q&A? i thought i did. i even had to go through statistics to see where i started this thread because i couldn't find it in Q&A. if i should've posted somewhere else, whoops, feel free to move.
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No, it is in General--It's all good--
When I get my Note 2/3 I will probably only root for Nandroids and Titanium BackUp. I think that phone and maybe SGSIV may stand on their own without a need to flash roms. Might be wrong though-- There are still more sweets after Jelly Beans--

Your last question answered your own question. Today's smartphones don't really require root, UNLESS you like tweaking your phone.....which most of us love to do, otherwise we wouldn't be here. You can easily get rid of bloatware with a new launcher. IE: Nova or Apex are my favorites. Just disable and hide them, you'll never see them again. Back in the day people rooted mainly to get the latest OS quicker....these days the newer smartphones already come with the latest OS, so it's all a matter of whether you like tweaking your phone or not. There are still great benefits to rooting, but these days it's more personal preference over flashing the latest OS.
Just my 2 cents.
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only1penny said:
explain why?
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I can explain it in one word: Control.
I want to be in charge of the device, not letting the device be in charge of me. If you want that you might as well go with apple, who makes good devices with a terrible OS, imo.

Well I will root my htc one s because the latest update to 4.1 is crap. My battery drains so fast. So if I don't find a solution for this I might downgrade back to ics 4.04 or maybe a better custom rom...otherwise I would've kept the rom not rooted. Especialy because now we can disable an app that it is not usefull.
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TheFreediver said:
Well I will root my htc one s because the latest update to 4.1 is crap. My battery drains so fast. So if I don't find a solution for this I might downgrade back to ics 4.04 or maybe a better custom rom...otherwise I would've kept the rom not rooted. Especialy because now we can disable an app that it is not usefull.
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is it just the official update that is bad? or is it a jb thing that hasn't been worked out. battery is huge for me.

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is it just the official update that is bad? or is it a jb thing that hasn't been worked out. battery is huge for me.
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Can't comment on stock but Blackout rom has been good for me.

I root because you can never seem to turn the screen brightness down far enough without root access, that and I don't like being locked out of a file system by manufacturers who don't trust my common sense.
I flash only when a device is older and/or no longer getting updated and something like CM gives me a major improvement.

Even if you want to run a stock ROM, unlocking/rooting (and flashing a custom recovery) enables you to make and restore nandroid backups and use tools like Titanium. It's also makes it easier to repair if you ever run into trouble like boot loops.

The Galaxy Tab 2 Help Thread [Ask Any Question!]

There are a lot of people joining xda on daily basis, and there are a lot of repetitive questions being asked which fill up Development threads. Point them here. Feel free to ask or answer questions. Idea of this thread is to get users to help other users with their problems/questions. Please do not spoon feed, but rather point in the direction where that user can find an answer and educate himself
First thing first. I strongly advise you to read THIS thread before posting ANYTHING on here
Then. Even if you do get your question answered, please, do come back and read threads in post no2 (coming later as soon as we start getting the guides) to educate yourself. You'll be surprised how much time and frustration it will save you in the future.
ASK ANY QUESTION HERE,adb, drivers, superCID etc...... You will either get an answer or will get pointed in the right direction.
No abuse towards noobs tolerated here! No question is stupid in this thread.
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People who contributed most to this thread and helped countless number of people with their problems/questions.
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I like π. Thanks for the thread. Hopefully people will use it.
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Does rooting the Galaxy tab 2 trip the flash counter?

BongStrong said:
Does rooting the Galaxy tab 2 trip the flash counter?
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If you flash something with Odin or mobile Odin, the flash counter will increase
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Tripping the flash counter is only an issue though if i plan to take my tab back to the store? Or does that have implications with it even if i dont try to return it or exchange? I dont plan on returning my tab soon just currently the only available root method for the sch-i705 is by odin

BongStrong said:
Tripping the flash counter is only an issue though if i plan to take my tab back to the store? Or does that have implications with it even if i dont try to return it or exchange? I dont plan on returning my tab soon just currently the only available root method for the sch-i705 is by odin
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The app ''TriangleAway'' by chainfire resets the flash counter. here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1494114

Triangle away works amazingly well. I use it on my phone to get rid of the yellow triangle thats caused by flashing. I will use it on my tab if I ever need to send it back. Chainfire is an awesome developer.
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I thought mobile odin did not trip the flash counter, only the desktop version
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Endoroid said:
I thought mobile odin did not trip the flash counter, only the desktop version
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Sorry, my bad . Mobile odin will not trip flash counter
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[Q] with Cyanogenmod
Is there a stable version of cyanogen mod for the g-tab2 10.1 GT5113? I tried once with a demo version,
and it basically screwed everything up and thus i had to flash stock rom back on

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2083275
I have this problem
Do u have any idea for solution?
Display has been changed by samasung care still pro not solved.
Edit link for display problem of youtube.
http://youtu.be/3HmvCFdGHc0
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Flashed JB back to ICS but want Root
Been combing thru the developer section for hours. Of course, you have to almost go back to September for ICS related stuff. But, only saw the rom, recovery & root rom for JB. Where is the one for ICS? Even some of the custom tweaked roms for ICS now have dead links. I have root explorer and want to take some of the crap off and add some stuff.
I didn't like JB because of the GUI the notification bar was awkward and not sized right. Didn't like the screenshot softkey being gone either. The youtube buffering and connectivity was a turn off too plus the battery drain. I got 8 hrs on JB and 13 hrs on ICS. I would love to root and or put on a custom rom, any suggestions?

so i'm gonna be getting this tab in a couple weeks, and i have never had a multi version tab before (wifi onlyversion, and different carrier versions).
i found this thread, and i'm glad i did. my first question about this tab, is development related. i want to know how the community is, and how active it is. i quickly looked through the dev section and it seemed pretty positive, but it was just a quick look, so not a very accurate perception.
secondly, my question is on different twiz versions, are all stock images rootable in the same way? or are some versions more difficult to root? and i don't care about flash counters as the device is a glorified secondhand device.
and finally, just wondering how others like this tab, i don't want to start a war, or anything. just wondering about the device, because i'm new to samsung tabs.
besides that, i'm looking forward to being a part of this community.

theminigame said:
so i'm gonna be getting this tab in a couple weeks, and i have never had a multi version tab before (wifi onlyversion, and different carrier versions).
i found this thread, and i'm glad i did. my first question about this tab, is development related. i want to know how the community is, and how active it is. i quickly looked through the dev section and it seemed pretty positive, but it was just a quick look, so not a very accurate perception.
secondly, my question is on different twiz versions, are all stock images rootable in the same way? or are some versions more difficult to root? and i don't care about flash counters as the device is a glorified secondhand device.
and finally, just wondering how others like this tab, i don't want to start a war, or anything. just wondering about the device, because i'm new to samsung tabs.
besides that, i'm looking forward to being a part of this community.
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There isnt a whole lot of development for the 10.1 version. But all of the man stuff is there and awesome. Its very easy to root on all versions of twiz. I personally love the device. I have the 5113 version which has an infrared blaster which is very useful to me. The specs arent spectacular but I havent slowed my tab down even playing high quality games. Im currently on stock jb rooted with twrp as my recovery. I havent overclocked yet either. Dont have the need for it currently
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patrao_n said:
There isnt a whole lot of development for the 10.1 version. But all of the man stuff is there and awesome. Its very easy to root on all versions of twiz. I personally love the device. I have the 5113 version which has an infrared blaster which is very useful to me. The specs arent spectacular but I havent slowed my tab down even playing high quality games. Im currently on stock jb rooted with twrp as my recovery. I havent overclocked yet either. Dont have the need for it currently
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Oh okay, well I'm getting the 7 inch version. I'm looking forward to owning this device. I Didn't see twrp in the dev section so I'm glad it's out there, I Prefer that to cwm.
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Galaxy tab 2 p3110 3G + WIFI has two problems after rooting.
I recently got a samsung galaxy tab 2 7.0 P3100 and rooted it with cwm and everything was ok. Next day, i decided to upgrade os to Jelly Bean but i copied the file to internal sd card instead of the external one, In order to correct this, i removed the ext sd card while the pad was still connected to the laptop and copied the files through the card reader of the laptop, put back the card in the tab before disconnecting. Now I completed the upgrading process, but instead of the jelly bean, i got the ICS. In download mode the laptop recognised the tab and I've flashed with odin two more time.I've rebooted in recovery mode twice without luck.
These are the problems:
PROBLEM 1. back and since then my laptop can't see the tab, I've done kies, reloaded usb drivers etc, no luck.
PROBLEM 2. In-coming calls are blocked but I can call out.
PLease help.

Could a gt-p3100 screen fit on the gt-p3113? I have a cracked screen and I can only find gt-p3100 parts...
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Possible to add cwm after SGT2 7.0 already rooted?

Probably one of the noobist questions to start off with but I need the answer or pointed in the right direction if at all possible, many many thanks in advance.
As you can see by the tittle i already have my galaxy tab 2 7.0 rooted (3113) and totally blanked on rooting with cwm. So how can I do it without having to restart the root process all over again?
Again much thanks is given for all help.

I used mobile Odin to flash the cwm zip back. That worked for me.
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JLloydMedia said:
Probably one of the noobist questions to start off with but I need the answer or pointed in the right direction if at all possible, many many thanks in advance.
As you can see by the tittle i already have my galaxy tab 2 7.0 rooted (3113) and totally blanked on rooting with cwm. So how can I do it without having to restart the root process all over again?
Again much thanks is given for all help.
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Mobile Odin will work... However you'll want to run it in odin and flash CWM.
No you don't have to start the root process over again. I am assuming your stock rooted?
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Ya im still on the stock rom, I was wondering if I could just flash it over
Using Odin. Thanks for the hekp! Anyine got some ideas on what the best rom is for the SGT2?
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JLloydMedia said:
Ya im still on the stock rom, I was wondering if I could just flash it over
Using Odin. Thanks for the hekp! Anyine got some ideas on what the best rom is for the SGT2?
I spent the last year solely working with only iOS (learning purposes), and let me say, dam it feels good to be back with my fellew Androidians.
"Jebus save me!" - H.S
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You can go for CM10.1..But I personally like stock..So rooted with unbloated Stock.

I kept reading that stock is best still for maintaining gaming levels (gaming usually pushes a system to its limits more so that anything else). I only just got my sgt2 so im in no rush. Yet
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JLloydMedia said:
I kept reading that stock is best still for maintaining gaming levels (gaming usually pushes a system to its limits more so that anything else). I only just got my sgt2 so im in no rush. Yet
From my sexy ass GT2
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Just downloaded ICS from sam mobile yesterday and I'm reinstalling it tomorrow. Yea I am sick of swapping out roms constantly. I have the JB rom downloaded also in case I decide to reinstall it in the future
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JLloydMedia said:
I kept reading that stock is best still for maintaining gaming levels (gaming usually pushes a system to its limits more so that anything else). I only just got my sgt2 so im in no rush. Yet
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From what I've read IR Blaster is only working on select ROMs. Dunno if that's important to you.