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that is the question. I've been using my 32 GB Transformer since it arrived on May 12, and I have to say that overall I'm a huge fan. Since I have seen so much on these boards about the various QC issues, I gave my tablet the once-over almost immediately. The speakers seem fine, no SoD, etc. The only defects I found were about 4 points of light along the left and bottom of the tablet when held in landscape. These show up at about 80-100% brightness with a dark background (not a black jpg), and are not terribly invasive. However, as I use the tablet more, it is a bit annoying just to know they're there. I've also experienced a bit of screen flicker (only with Angry Birds so far), but suspect that this may be more of a software/rendering issue. So the question I have to ask myself is "Do I send it back?" I've heard a number of stories on these boards and elsewhere of people who RMA'ed, waited, and got back a poorer product than they started with. I can live with a little light bleed, but I'm not sure I want to. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance.
--SemTechie
I'm kind of in the same boat. I've got a single hot pixel and obvious light bleed that is mainly noticable with black/dark backgrounds. If I send it back to the retailer I could end up waiting a month or MORE for a replacement that may have the same or worse issues. And then what happens? Would the retailer take it back and keep this back-and-forth game up till I recieved a tablet that has no isses? I doubt it. I'm thinking that maybe I should call Asus and see what they have to say about the backlight bleed on the tablet.
No matter what you do you will be taken care of, if you RMA it now or in 6 months from now. Asus has great warranty support. They even pay for the shipping away to them for RMA. Most companies make you eat that cost.
Seems like the QC issues are widespread throughout the TF supply, which means the manufacturing process is flawed / needs correction. So, RMA'ing now might not yield good results. Might be better to wait a couple months to RMA, assuming that ASUS would actually address and correct the QC issues.
I've noticed some light bleed in a couple spots when cranking up the brightness, but since I don't usually have the brightness over 50% and I don't tend to stare at black backgrounds I'm just brushing it off....for now. When I read that customers are getting TF's RMA'd w/ new TF's w/out any issues, then I'll consider RMA'ing.
I am also waiting to RMA.
My HDMI port is really unreliable and the connection will be detected and dropped constantly if you touch it at all. If you jiggle it just the right way it will immediately put the tab into a SOD. I've already called ASUS to get the issue on record but I told them I'm waiting to RMA until after I've heard of other's successfully repair experiences.
I only have very minor light bleed and a tiny creak in the top left of the chassis, both a non-issues but the HDMI port sucking really bothers me.
Light bleed is pretty common to bigger ips displays. Do a search for iPad light bleed and you will see what I mean.
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However, as I use the tablet more, it is a bit annoying just to know they're there.
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This is exactly the problem. People go looking for trouble, and trouble is what they'll find.
I'm having same issue. At first I didnt' want to think of it and didn't try to look for it. But whenever I start some apps and the screen is dark. I can see som light bleed on the side and one very annoying one in the middle of the screen about an inch long. I can live with the sides...but in the middle of the screen is pretty hard to accept.
Just a quick question for other TF700 owners. I originally bought a Prime and had the bad wifi issues, exchanged it for another with no improvement so I held out for the Infinity. I now have my Infinity and the screen is loose on the right hand side about 2/3 of the way down. If you press it you can feel the give and hear a popping sound. I'm just curious if this is an isolated incident or if a loose screen an issue with the Infinity. I love the tablet and honestly have no clue what I would get instead but, for $500 I expect better build quality.
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Just a quick question for other TF700 owners. I originally bought a Prime and had the bad wifi issues, exchanged it for another with no improvement so I held out for the Infinity. I now have my Infinity and the screen is loose on the right hand side about 2/3 of the way down. If you press it you can feel the give and hear a popping sound. I'm just curious if this is an isolated incident or if a loose screen an issue with the Infinity. I love the tablet and honestly have no clue what I would get instead but, for $500 I expect better build quality.
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I have this issue too. Both the right hand side and left hand side, and a few additional places (7 areas in total). When I closed pad on the dock station a crack formed between one of these two weak areas where screen is loose, and all points to glass cracking exactly because the strains were not supported by chassis. And I closed it the same way I closed it a few other times before (only owned it for about a month).
If you need more description in pictures, there's a thread about defects (it lists clicking/loose screen as one of defects by the way) in this same forum.
I hope that my crack is just an isolated case. This is only my personal opinion based on experience I had, but I would keep bothering the wherever you got your tablet until they give you one without loose screen.
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Just a quick question for other TF700 owners. I originally bought a Prime and had the bad wifi issues, exchanged it for another with no improvement so I held out for the Infinity. I now have my Infinity and the screen is loose on the right hand side about 2/3 of the way down. If you press it you can feel the give and hear a popping sound. I'm just curious if this is an isolated incident or if a loose screen an issue with the Infinity. I love the tablet and honestly have no clue what I would get instead but, for $500 I expect better build quality.
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Mines clicking in the exact same spot you described. Doesn't seem to be getting worse, and if it doesn't I don't think it will bother me that much. But still, for the money we're paying its inexcusable.
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Same clicking above the microSD slot and on the opposite side -> same location. But it does not really bother me.
Mine clicks a little right above the dock port on the bottom.
I'm not considering it a problem at this point.
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I have this issue too. Both the right hand side and left hand side, and a few additional places (7 areas in total). When I closed pad on the dock station a crack formed between one of these two weak areas where screen is loose, and all points to glass cracking exactly because the strains were not supported by chassis. And I closed it the same way I closed it a few other times before (only owned it for about a month).
If you need more description in pictures, there's a thread about defects (it lists clicking/loose screen as one of defects by the way) in this same forum.
I hope that my crack is just an isolated case. This is only my personal opinion based on experience I had, but I would keep bothering the wherever you got your tablet until they give you one without loose screen.
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In the Nexus 7 forum there were a number of complaints about the screen lifting, and most were found to be caused by screws that were over tightened below the areas of lift. The Nexus 7 back is easy to remove, and I wouldn't suggest doing this with the TF700, but they are both recent ASUS devices and there seems to be a possibility they could suffer from the same issue. By the way. it turns out that only a small % of Nexus 7 owners experienced screen lift, but some had multiple devices with this issue. Mine is flawless, as are the vast majority. I think that must be true for the TF700 as well. Mine is perfect, too.
Just checked. Mine has a VERY slight, not quite popping, but like a small"tic" when pressed by SD slot. Had to listen really close to hear it. My prime was nothing but problems, Wi-Fi weak, GPS totally worthless, and camera was unacceptably bad, grainy quality pics.
My Infinity is everything prime was not. Extremely pleased with it. Only problem I've noticed is I/O lag. And hopefully, that will be fixed with jelly bean.
One other thing, mine WOULD NOT OTA update. Had to d load to micro card.
Other than that, I LOVE MY INFINITY!
I don't see any issues with the building quality. I have not struggled to find flaws . my only complaint is lag and performance. Hopefully these are fixable sw issues that the jb update will fix or someone will create a good ROM to unleash this tablet.
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Build quality for mine is terrific. No complaints at all at this point.
Sitting in the airport lounge right now where my TF201 didn't get a WiFi signal. TF700 has -50dB at 54Mbps.
Build quality and performance are exactly what I would expect for a premium priced tablet.
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My first one was perfect physically, but I had to return it. My second one has the popping on the left and there's noticeable give on the bottom, right above the left keyboard dock slot (that is, you can push the screen into the casing). I'm guessing its not a big deal since there are others who have reported similar things.
I have the popping sound when applying pressure to the display on the right side, kind of where the speaker sits. I used to have a slight bulge / screen seperation above the microSD slot, but that completely went away after I left my Infinity lieing in the sun for a few hours (not on purpose, I just forgot about it and that thing got HOT).
I hope this is an isolated case (though my "popping" wasn't so severe, I didn't pay attention to it either!), but just so you know, this is what happened when I normally (no extra force) closed it with my dock station.
I initially ignored the problem too. So be careful when handling it around dock station (if I'm right, it's only bending which is created by dock station that can do this, simply holding it in hand or closing dock station by holding it in middle will not cause any cracks or damage).
Topic.
1: Volume rocker did not work properly.
2: Many scratches on the backplate.
3: loose screen causing clicking noise.
Twice.
#1 - Wifi died after a week.
#2 - Screen was completely detached on one side out of the box.
Almost returned my third since it looked like the spring was missing from my SD card slot (that is, the card went in with no resistance and wouldn't push in to pop out)... but on a whim I decided to try it again right before I finished boxing it back up and it started working.
Its a great tablet, but Asus really needs to improve their quality control.
ZROW
Returned mine no times...
Thought about it-didn't do it.
0 cakes out of infinity
did not return my tablet, was flawless unit
Did the Infinity even come with plastic covers for the keyboard dock connections and the charging port like the TF201 model? The Infinity I saw, brand new right out of the box there were no plastic protective covers at all.
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Did the Infinity even come with plastic covers for the keyboard dock connections and the charging port like the TF201 model? The Infinity I saw, brand new right out of the box there were no plastic protective covers at all.
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All three of mine had the cover on the dock connector itself, but not the two slots where it connected to the dock.
Edit: Sigh... Now I"m considering returning mine for the third time. When I got it, I noticed the screen could be pushed in a little along the bottom, like it wasnt completely attached but I figured it'd be ok since it was just one spot. Now its doing it along the top. My local best buy has them in-store now so I could exchange it no problems, but I've been holding off during my return period before unlocking and I dont want to push that back again...
I heard you can get banned for 90 days from Best Buy if you return too much... They scan your driver's license to keep a log of your returns. Not sure if it applies to defective tablets but they will probably assume that you're doing the damage one day. Anyways, time to exchange it.
Zero. Slight clicking sound. GPS is a bit slow. Nothing else.
4: Loose screen, clicking noise
5: Loose screen, clicking noise
6: Loose screen, clicking noise
7: 5 pieces of dust under screen.
This is outrageous.
Vibrating Motor didn't work at all.
This one is perfect. Everything works great. No creeking of the screen, no light bleed no problems what so ever. For now.
4 times....... 1- had dust under screen, 2- dead pixels, 3-dust under screen 4-dead pixels again, and the one I currently have seems like a keeper, I am used to it already as I had to do the same for the Prime and tf300 at least twice, but once I got a good one it held up good, Im very satisfied with the one I currently have. the infinity is clearly a beast!
8: dusts under screen
Finally got a good one on my ninth... everything is good except for the minor lightbleed but IDC I have found THE ONE!
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8: dusts under screen
Finally got a good one on my ninth... everything is good except for the minor lightbleed but IDC I have found THE ONE!
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I highly doubt you can go through 9 units in 2 days. Are you near a real store?
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Keion said:
I highly doubt you can go through 9 units in 2 days. Are you near a real store?
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I live between two BB stores that are under 3 miles away.
I work in the city where two BB stores are less than 1 mile away so I can walk.
I also open the box in the store after exchanging and check for problems. If I do, I exchange it again. Started this after my fourth exchange cause I was getting annoyed driving back and forth.
wow. I feel lucky. I got mine first week available in North America and have NO issues. no dust, no light bleed. Been working great. No complaints, except with Chome being a big laggy.
Zero.
Original TF101 - 7 TIMES. Yup..dead pixels, blemishes on screen, dead WIFI, crappy QA until I got a good one.
TF201 - Twice. Dead pixels, dead GPS. End of romance.
TF700 - Returned once. Original one had cosmetic imperfections (large dark stain/spot on the side), loose screen and clicking on left side of screen. Picked up another one, PERFECTION. No dead pixels, no clicking, no cosmetic damage.
Zero. No problems in 3 weeks.
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Really This is shocking to hear. I bought mine online from america, because I couldnt buy the cheaper speced version here. But mine is perfect thank god. I do actually have a very slight clicky sound in one of the corners. But I'll live with that. I don't really know what I could do if this craps out on me.
Asus really need to work on their QC...
No returns on my infinity yet, I have had mine for almost 30 days (have 60days for BB returns). Have a 2yr ADH from square trade just incase. Looks like this infinity is a keeper.
My primes on the other hand was just a QC problems after QC problems... very dissapointed with the prime.
So, I've just received my third Infinity, after having to send the first two back because of defects with the screen. The first had a large speck of dust trapped right under the centre of the screen, and the screen on the second gave everything a horrible yellow tinge.
The one I've just received has what looks like a perfect screen image wise, but there's a horrible clicking sound when I press along the right hand edge - so, it appears that this infinity also has a fault, which I know from reading these forums is fairly common.
I'm really starting to loose heart with this tablet - it's my first one, and as much as I want to love it, I'm sick of receiving defective units. If I return this one, then I'm going to be running the risk of receiving another with a dodgy screen or worse.
If I decide to keep this one, what are the chances of the clicking/unbonded screen becoming worse? Can anyone who's had this problem comment on whether the area that clicks has expanded over time, or if your screen has started to separate noticeably? Is this likely to happen?
I've bought through Amazon so I'm able to return it without any hassle, but I'm reluctant to go through the ASUS quality control lottery for a fourth time.
I would appreciate any advice or comments.
Mine is 2 months old and i had the clicking issue from the beginning but it didn't got worse and to be honest i don't even notice the clicks anymore (i guess that my brain got used to it ).
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Ok, thanks mate... hopefully it won't get any worse. I'll give it a week or two and see if mine spreads at all.
Nexus 7 has same problem
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MisterEz said:
So, I've just received my third Infinity, after having to send the first two back because of defects with the screen. The first had a large speck of dust trapped right under the centre of the screen, and the screen on the second gave everything a horrible yellow tinge.
The one I've just received has what looks like a perfect screen image wise, but there's a horrible clicking sound when I press along the right hand edge - so, it appears that this infinity also has a fault, which I know from reading these forums is fairly common.
I'm really starting to loose heart with this tablet - it's my first one, and as much as I want to love it, I'm sick of receiving defective units. If I return this one, then I'm going to be running the risk of receiving another with a dodgy screen or worse.
If I decide to keep this one, what are the chances of the clicking/unbonded screen becoming worse? Can anyone who's had this problem comment on whether the area that clicks has expanded over time, or if your screen has started to separate noticeably? Is this likely to happen?
I've bought through Amazon so I'm able to return it without any hassle, but I'm reluctant to go through the ASUS quality control lottery for a fourth time.
I would appreciate any advice or comments.
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Send it back - that's not acceptable for a highend electronic product. You keep doin this until you get one with accaptable build quality or you buy another brand. Choice is yours. But never accept poor build quality in high end consumer electronics
Had mine for about 3 weeks and received a screen protector a couple of days ago, no problems with the screen but was worried applying the screen protector would show up any defects clickingwise. Panic over screen protector on and display is looking good.
Yeah, I think too many people here accept the fact that their unit has some fault and then just think "well, it could be worse. Be happy with what you got". No way! this should be THE high end tablet, one of the most expensive ones there are and then it has this kind of faults.
IF everybody would be same and think "well this is ok" then Asus wouldn't even learn from their mistakes. They would just keep on with the crappy QC and nothing would be fixed. Maybe they would even worsen the qc to save money and try to find out where is the line that people don't accept the product.
For me, I spend a lot of money and I want my unit be perfect out of the package. It is other issue then if I break it..
I too am having some screen issues, but I think I will have to send my unit back to ASUS completely. Most Dutch retailers only have a very short return period, and I've already had mine for 19 days. I guess I will contact the retailer and ask them what I should do. However, it is really unacceptable that you pay a high price for such a premium product and that it has issues that really should not ocur. The reason why I didn't go back to the retailer was because I didn't really notice it at first, it just got more annoying later on...
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Mine has the loose screen issue all around. But no clicking. So I'm having the same debate in my mind. I think I'm going to return and try for another one.
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I'm returning my 2nd TF700t tomorrow 'cause of loose screen. This time it also made the clicking sound :/
Mine has a loose screen but it's the lower left hand corner by the headphone jack, hdmi port, microphone area. You don't even need to squeeze it hard, it feels hollow in that area and it makes a crunching sound. My biggest fear is the ports there are either going to get damaged or cause a short touching the case. Amazon is sending me a replacement which I should have tomorrow.
Amazon was really gracious in taking my 201 back that I bought in May, but man, WTF, I love Tegra games so the samsung tab is out and I hate Samsung with their wishy washy update and the fact they stop supporting their legacy products fairly fast.
If this next one is trash I don't know what to do, I don't want to be banned by Amazon for returns, sucks ass.
Thanks for all the replies and comments - it seems that this loose/unbonded screen issue is more widespread than I first thought...
All those who have said that I shouldn't accept this on a premium device are, of course, correct. Although the tablet seems to work properly now, I'm worried that several months down the line the screen might start to separate or some other related problem will arise, & I'll be left to deal with Asus direct for a warranty repair. It makes far more sense to get it replaced now, so I'm just about to contact Amazon to tell them that this tablet, the third one that they have sent me, is also faulty.
Here's hoping my fourth will be fault free as it'll be the last one I get - if there's a problem with it then it'll be returned for a refund & I'll start to look at other brands of tablets to buy instead.
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Thanks for all the replies and comments - it seems that this loose/unbonded screen issue is more widespread than I first thought...
All those who have said that I shouldn't accept this on a premium device are, of course, correct. Although the tablet seems to work properly now, I'm worried that several months down the line the screen might start to separate or some other related problem will arise, & I'll be left to deal with Asus direct for a warranty repair. It makes far more sense to get it replaced now, so I'm just about to contact Amazon to tell them that this tablet, the third one that they have sent me, is also faulty.
Here's hoping my fourth will be fault free as it'll be the last one I get - if there's a problem with it then it'll be returned for a refund & I'll start to look at other brands of tablets to buy instead.
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If you check out the Nexus 7 forum (also an ASUS tablet) you can gleam some interesting information about the screen separation issues. It's not as easy to take the Infinity apart, so fixes aren't readily available, but I'm sure the issues are related.
I wonder if the glass and digitizer on this tablet are stuck down by something similar to double sided foam tape.
Might be a contact film type adhesive too.
My experience with these type of sticky adhesives is that sometimes a little warmth or just over time they will adhere better.
I did have a slight clicking on the bottom of my tablet, it's not there now.
Just some thoughts.
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I wonder if the glass and digitizer on this tablet are stuck down by something similar to double sided foam tape.
Might be a contact film type adhesive too.
My experience with these type of sticky adhesives is that sometimes a little warmth or just over time they will adhere better.
I did have a slight clicking on the bottom of my tablet, it's not there now.
Just some thoughts.
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From the ASUS Nexus 7 forums I understand that the loose screen/screen separation may be due to adhesion issues that can be somewhat or completely solved by gentle heat followed by light, consistent pressure. Someone did try that with his Infinity with limited results but I think his frame may not have fit properly as well. The crunching sound some have reported may be due to a really crunchy type of tape used to hold down the battery, if there's any excess flex that causes the screen/digitizer to touch the tape. There was also a screen lift/light bleed issue caused by over-tightened screws in the frame holding the motherboard, etc together. That was user fixable, by just loosening the screws and making sure that they were all fairly evenly tightened. That also really helped with the light bleed issues too.
I received my replacement from Amazon, this one is all good, it even has the cooler color screen I like compared to original, sweet!
I have just sent back my second tablet to amazon after receiving the first one with nearly jammed in buttons and a clicking screen. The second one I got had a little clicking to start and then got progressively worse until I chose to return it. Amazon emailed me and said that they are just going to refund me my money instead of sending out another one with probably similar problems... don't really know what to do now... any other good tablets coming out? Haha
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The way these tablets are held together is via a longer L shaped plastic edge on the faceplate that mates top edge first to a the ledge built into the backshell. Once inserted under the shell at the top edge the rest of the screen can lay down into the rest of the backshell. There are smaller L shaped clips up and down the outsides which click into place via finger pressure. The bottom edge is secured by two metal slide locks which mount the front to the back much like an old style door chain where the round part fits into a large hole and then slides into a narrower opening to latch it into place.
The point of this post? if the sides or top seem loose you can probably click them together with finger pressure. if the bottom is loose the latch got locked without the round part in place. for this you should return if you have warranty left. If it crunches they probably broke an L shaped clip while assembling.
I received my 2nd Infinity today and I immediately noticed the screen on the bottom left hand corner is above the frame and the rest of the bottom part of the screen flexes when I hold it normally. I'm sending it back. I'll give the Infinity one more chance and hope I get a good one. If not, I'll have to look at other options. At some point enough is enough.
My advice for anyone that has build quality issues with their Infinity is to return it. That is a lot of money to spend to keep a tablet that could break down the line. I wouldn't take any chances, but that's just me.
Seriously though, does anyone know of any other top end tabs coming out soon? I'm tired of dealing with sh*t quality
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I notice a small (3mm x 3mm ) spotty blemish (four tiny dots arranged like the new windows icon) on the screen, probably in the actual LCD (cannot touch it).
It is only visible when the screen displays white.
I suppose this is a manufacturing defection. Anything else about the screen seems fine. quite solid build, except for negligible 0.5mm give on the left edge.
Anything else I should particularly check for? Shall I exchange it at bb?
There is really no anything else as big and as light as tf700, right?
Thanks.
Hello.
Not sure if we talking about same issue but I also have this white dot, almost like a dead pixel but it isn't. Its possible to be seen only when white background and easier to spot when viewing from side, not straight ahead.
I believe this is what is called hot pixel.
Bad thing about this is that I first had 1, then 2. Then I returned it. Asus said no problems. Now I have 4 and I am seriously considering to returing this. Just that I need my tablet for work and I know for Asus it takes over 2 weeks to consider what they would do.
Probably when not so hectic at work I will go and try returning again.
I have on right hand side some loosening. If I press the screen where is the volume buttons I can feel it moves. It is the only place of the tablet where this kind of movement can be spotted.
Yet 3 of the hot pixels are on the left side of the tablet. The newest one is close to middle but a bit more to right side.
I'll definitely return mine to Best Buy, but a bit debating whether I shall stick with tf700t after all.
Any clue whether there is any systematic difference between retailers / batches of s/n's ?
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Hello.
Not sure if we talking about same issue but I also have this white dot, almost like a dead pixel but it isn't. Its possible to be seen only when white background and easier to spot when viewing from side, not straight ahead.
I believe this is what is called hot pixel.
Bad thing about this is that I first had 1, then 2. Then I returned it. Asus said no problems. Now I have 4 and I am seriously considering to returing this. Just that I need my tablet for work and I know for Asus it takes over 2 weeks to consider what they would do.
Probably when not so hectic at work I will go and try returning again.
I have on right hand side some loosening. If I press the screen where is the volume buttons I can feel it moves. It is the only place of the tablet where this kind of movement can be spotted.
Yet 3 of the hot pixels are on the left side of the tablet. The newest one is close to middle but a bit more to right side.
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