I have tried several ics roms and the Sense browser and Chrome are slow, take a long to load a page, white spaces while loading, fuzzy text while scrolling or pinch zooming... Everything ok with ginger roms
Is this a known issue with ics or am I doing something wrong?
It's ICS - needs a newer kernel to address these display issues.
Try JB - the stock browser is pretty good, though Chrome has problems.
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BillGoss said:
It's ICS - needs a newer kernel to address these display issues.
Try JB - the stock browser is pretty good, though Chrome has problems.
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Which jb version do you recommend? I thought Chrome was the stock browser with jb...
I don't like Sense, so the best ROM for me at the moment is this one:
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Andromadus
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Andromadus JellyBelly Beta 3 using Kernel 3
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Download version 0821 from test in
http://goo.im/devs/Super/andromadus
Also download kernel 77n.
Then flash the Rom, then the kernel, then anything else you want.
Note, some people have issues with in-call sound, but many don't. Also front facing camera doesn't work yet.
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Try opera...found it to be the smoothest of the lot...
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If I'm correct there is also Webkit Hw acceleration which
cannot be enabled on ICS roms without some additional work on the
recently released kernel source.
also there are a lots of alternative browsers.
For Example:
Dolphin... ( especially the beta which is VERY fast)...
Opera.. Maxthon...
I Don't even use the stock one
BillGoss said:
I don't like Sense, so the best ROM for me at the moment is this one:
Download version 0821 from test in
Also download kernel 77n.
Then flash the Rom, then the kernel, then anything else you want.
Note, some people have issues with in-call sound, but many don't. Also front facing camera doesn't work yet.
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Tried that setup and better than ics but still worse than gingerbread. Hope this week's kernel gives a clue to fix that
Its a common ICS problem. Its one of the things Google fixed in JB. No kernel or such will address this issues AFAIK. Sense ROms are already using the official kernel.
Try loading dailymail.co.uk on ICS, it will always lag. But on JB it is smooth. The same also applies to my Tab, so I don't think its a ds issue
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Seems it's about the opengl rendering enabled, tiles rendering etc in Android >=3 You can type about:debug in the url bar, then in options go to debug and uncheck enable opengl rendering. That will make the browser to behave like a gingerbread browser
The opengl gives smoothness on scrolling or zooming, but at the same time I think I browse faster with it disabled. Maybe out gpu is not fast enough?
Give it a try and comment...
Still slow with jb?
code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=25147
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Just a heads up. Have always been a fan of xScope Browser but gave it up for a while as the new xScope 6 seemed buggy to me.
Not sure what has changed with recent updates, but the latest version is FAST, really really FAST. Also, lots of cool features. Anyway, check it out in the market. The bookmarking feature takes a little getting used to as it uses HTML to represent bookmarks, but I'm sure that is one reason it is so fast - less overhead. When working with bookmarks, the controls for how they appear are on the bottom of the page. You can do icons, lists, etc...
Also, it has tabs and if you press and hold a tab, all kinds of cool options appear.
Tried it, slow. Im running calkulins 1.6.1 and its about 4 times faster than xscope. Are you rooted ? It is faster than a stock ego but in my opinion its not even close to rooted.
Tried it, slow. Im running calkulins 1.6.1 and its about 4 times faster than xscope. Are you rooted ? It is faster than a stock evo but in my opinion its not even close to rooted.
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Tried it, slow. Im running calkulins 1.6.1 and its about 4 times faster than xscope. Are you rooted ? It is faster than a stock ego but in my opinion its not even close to rooted.
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Isn't calkulin a rom? xScope is a browser. How can you compare the two?
He means that the default browser in caulkins is better then xscope
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I m using Xscope 6.21 and I am unable to view /data/ folder using its folder view. Though I can see all apks in /system/app. Is it supposed to not show data folder?
I've always been a fan of xscope, it has great media download options and a nice simple ui. Latest update supports themes, so expect for nice themes to be rolling out like the older versions. I think its built based off the stock browser just with some extra features.
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does it have option to download youtube videos?
Crossrocker said:
He means that the default browser in caulkins is better then xscope
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Yeah the stock browser in calkulins new rom is faassst, I thought cyanogen and miui were fast but they don't even compare. Im a little off topic so my bad.
Is it possible to change the default google search from international to local(Aus)?
Guys can somebody help me out? I've flashed the very latest 3.32 firmware package from this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1412618) and I've tried out both DarkForest and the very latest Elegancia ROMs. On each, the browser is absolutely awful, Xda for example takes forever to fully load before you are able to double tap to zoom and then scale the page up. And then when you do, the text goes unfocused for a second and then finally scales up appropriately. Also panning around the page tends to get a bit 'sticky'.
This is driving me nuts, the browser in Gingerbread was MUCH more fluid and text scaling was instantaneous. I've tried searching but no one seems to be reporting this issue. Please don't tell me that this is by design? It's really awful, I mainly use my phone for web browsing and ICS has ruined for me a previously enjoyable experience.
Does anyone have this same issue as me?
use google chrome
Browser is super smooth and is loading web pages fast. Perhaps you have high standards.
The only issue I have is, that if I click on a link within a different app, say gmail, it won't take me to the link, but rather the last page I had opened.
ccs16rocks said:
Browser is super smooth and is loading web pages fast. Perhaps you have high standards.
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You didn't answer my question; are you seeing the weird unfocused and then scale up issue when you double tap?
Well, for me in Gingerbread, that NEVER happened, it was much much faster. And I shouldn't have to use Google Chrome, the point is HTC have broken something.
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The only issue I have is, that if I click on a link within a different app, say gmail, it won't take me to the link, but rather the last page I had opened.
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Yep, it's a bug with the stock Browser.
Also, can people say exactly which firmware version they are using? Maybe there is a problem with the latest one? I want to try every possible permutation to help get rid of this issue.
Also I found this thread; http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1550841
Seems like I'm not the only one to have seen this issue.
I have absolutely no issues with the ICS stock browser. Since I've tried it, it's the only one I use. I don't like HTC's take on it though.
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I have absolutely no issues with the ICS stock browser. Since I've tried it, it's the only one I use. I don't like HTC's take on it though.
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Are you saying that when you double tap to zoom, the text DOES NOT got fuzzy for you for a split second, before properly scaling up and into focus?
If it absolutely doesn't then I'd be very interested to know which firmware and rom you are using.
On Gingerbread you see, this fuzziness 'middle step' never occurred, it when straight into scale.
use a different browser, stock everything is lame I use a different launcher GO SMS for messaging and chrome for web
ICS Browser+
Try ICS Browser+ in the Play Store. I prefer using it over the stock one only because of the added functionality and features. Expanded Quick Controls and Gestures are awesome!
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Try ICS Browser+ in the Play Store. I prefer using it over the stock one only because of the added functionality and features. Expanded Quick Controls and Gestures are awesome!
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But does that fix the fuzziness on double tap zoom? I don't care about extra features really, I care about the rendering and the speed.
I haven't had any of the probs you mentioned. I've been using the ARHD 6.5.1 ROM for ICS. However, are you using the stock HTC Browser or the AOSP one? Its easy to confuse the two. The HTC Browser is 'stock' for an HTC phone but its NOT the real ICS browser that Google makes. Once I figured out how to get the AOSP one in my ROM over the HTC one, I've switched to that every time I loaded a new ROM. I feel that its better than the HTC one and I think its hardware accelerated too, but I could be wrong. There's another thread somewhere on how to switch the browser.apk files that I've posted in before. Maybe that could resolve your issue? Also it could be possible that those ROMs removed something or did a tweak that could be causing your prob too.
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I haven't had any of the probs you mentioned. I've been using the ARHD 6.5.1 ROM for ICS. However, are you using the stock HTC Browser or the AOSP one? Its easy to confuse the two. The HTC Browser is 'stock' for an HTC phone but its NOT the real ICS browser that Google makes. Once I figured out how to get the AOSP one in my ROM over the HTC one, I've switched to that every time I loaded a new ROM. I feel that its better than the HTC one and I think its hardware accelerated too, but I could be wrong. There's another thread somewhere on how to switch the browser.apk files that I've posted in before. Maybe that could resolve your issue? Also it could be possible that those ROMs removed something or did a tweak that could be causing your prob too.
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Well, I've just flashed LeeDroid, and it does exactly the same thing, so that's 3 roms now all with the same issue. I tried ICS Browser+ just now which I believe is pretty much the stock ICS AOSP browser, and it was the same deal. I also earlier found a flashable zip file which installs the AOSP Browser and I gave that a try, I still got the split second fuzziness on double tap or pinch to zoom.
I'm wondering if I might have had a bad firmware flash and it's broken something; I've tried re-flashing the latest ICS firmware but nothing improved. I think I'd like to go back to Gingerbread and start again, but I have no idea where the Gingerbread firmware can be found.
One other thing, do you use the 'fomat to fit screen / text reflow' option? I've noticed that turning it off speeds things up a bit, although there is still a slight moment of fuzziness during the zoom after double tap.
I've also got ICS installed on my HTC Desire and it does not have that issue, but it mentions in the changelog that a fix was applied. This leads me to thinking that it is a problem with the ICS version of WebKit. But, you say you don't have any issues, which is baffling. Which version of the ICS Firmware are you using?
What you're seeing is normal for ICS. The reason it does that is because it is rendering the page into an array of images - this is called a backing store. It is much easier to scale and transform an image than it is to redraw the page for every frame of a scroll or zoom animation. This makes for better frame rates during scrolling and zooming, at the cost of that momentary pixelation when you zoom in. A lot of people whined about the non-smooth scrolling in older versions so I guess they decided to go this route with ICS (which, by the way, is what Apple does in iOS, and if you've ever used an iWhatever you'll see the same thing when zooming in).
More information here:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5310/samsung-galaxy-nexus-ice-cream-sandwich-review/5
And here:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4686/samsung-galaxy-s-2-international-review-the-best-redefined/4
This is not unique to Sense ROMs either, I'm on a de-Sensed ROM at the moment and even then the browser does the same thing. In any case, personally I find the scrolling much smoother than before, and I think it's a worthwhile tradeoff.
I don't know if it works on Sense 3.6 ROMs, but try typing "about:debug" in the address bar, hit enter, then go to Settings>Debug and then uncheck "Enable OpenGL Rendering". Then you get no pixelation on zooming in, but the scrolling will be slower.
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Are you saying that when you double tap to zoom, the text DOES NOT got fuzzy for you for a split second, before properly scaling up and into focus?
If it absolutely doesn't then I'd be very interested to know which firmware and rom you are using.
On Gingerbread you see, this fuzziness 'middle step' never occurred, it when straight into scale.
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I do see what you're talking about, but the pixelation is only for like 2 milliseoconds, so who cares.
Nick L said:
What you're seeing is normal for ICS. The reason it does that is because it is rendering the page into an array of images - this is called a backing store. It is much easier to scale and transform an image than it is to redraw the page for every frame of a scroll or zoom animation. This makes for better frame rates during scrolling and zooming, at the cost of that momentary pixelation when you zoom in. A lot of people whined about the non-smooth scrolling in older versions so I guess they decided to go this route with ICS (which, by the way, is what Apple does in iOS, and if you've ever used an iWhatever you'll see the same thing when zooming in).
More information here:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5310/samsung-galaxy-nexus-ice-cream-sandwich-review/5
And here:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4686/samsung-galaxy-s-2-international-review-the-best-redefined/4
This is not unique to Sense ROMs either, I'm on a de-Sensed ROM at the moment and even then the browser does the same thing. In any case, personally I find the scrolling much smoother than before, and I think it's a worthwhile tradeoff.
I don't know if it works on Sense 3.6 ROMs, but try typing "about:debug" in the address bar, hit enter, then go to Settings>Debug and then uncheck "Enable OpenGL Rendering". Then you get no pixelation on zooming in, but the scrolling will be slower.
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Thank you SO MUCH! This is exactly what I was looking for, I searched around but had you not said this, I would never have known.
I can live with the slightly jerkier scrolling, in fact I don't really notice it. What I did notice was the slow zooming and rendering, but thanks to you that's now fixed. Cheers!
this is why i don't use custom ROMS. to many bugs/issues and no matter how much someone that makes a roms and tests it, they will never have a perfect product. Let me ask a few questions that may get your attention. One big issue for me is that how do you know that the folks that make these things aren't embedding malicious software in there? How many people pay bills or access their bank accounts with their phones and how do you know that the ROM isn't sending your data back to it's creator?
No worth the risk for me.
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this is why i don't use custom ROMS. to many bugs/issues and no matter how much someone that makes a roms and tests it, they will never have a perfect product. Let me ask a few questions that may get your attention. One big issue for me is that how do you know that the folks that make these things aren't embedding malicious software in there? How many people pay bills or access their bank accounts with their phones and how do you know that the ROM isn't sending your data back to it's creator?
No worth the risk for me.
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The risk is just about nothing, and you think carriers or manufacturers make a perfect product?
im using the revolution HD 3.0.0 rom and have tested this with 4 different browsers, but ever since I got ICS i cannot use flash video in fullscreen anymore. windowed works fine but assoon as i want to expand to fullscreen, no matter what website, the sreen just stays completely white or black but the sound still runs.
already searched the forum, none of the hreads offer any solutions.
anyone else havint his isse and know any fixes for this? other than that ICS seems to run quite poorly, maybe its the ROm im using but i have frequent app crahes etc.. i want to stay with ICS but it seems very broken.
I have never run into that issue and have used various ICS ROMs for the Transformer.
Hell, I really haven't run into any problems since using ICS based ROMs on the Transformer. I have noticed improvements more so than bugs since updating the Transformer to ICS.
EDIT: I just tested the fullscreen Flash video and it worked perfectly fine. I was able to fullscreen the video and go back to the regular view without any issues. Also resized the webpage to see if it would crash.. nope.
I upgraded to revolution HD 3.2.1 now, still the same issue.
I dont get it.. im using the most recent flash player, wiped the tablöet before upüdating..
so whats different for your tf101? what rom are you on? have you tried several websiteswith flash video?
Yes, and I have used several ROMs. Stock, Revolver, Android Rev, AOKP and now Megatron 1.0.4.
Are you installing some flash .apk you kept around for whatever reason? Or are you downloading it from the Market? If the former, I will smack you.
no im using the flash from the play store so the most recent one
now on revolution 3.2.0, still having the same issue.. any help?
You could try flashing Guevor's Kernel and the Nvidia codecs, they help out flash video play alot.
Hey guys,
Im not allowed to post on the ROM thread. But i need help. I wanna have CM10 on my device which is a HTC sensation. I'v installed the 23 Sep update. Everything works fast. But when ever i open an app the animations are really choppy. You can actually see the frames. The ROM is great and fast but this low frame rate is annoying. I just wanna know the possible reasons or is it there in all CM10 sensation phones. And the update says Vsync and Triple Buffering enabled ;its even more annoying. Please Help.!!
P.S: Iv tried Sense 4 roms after flashing CM10 . Even Sense 3.6 roms. Animations work just fine. Its just with CM10 i face this problem.
Mine works fine, using cm-10-20120924-bruce2728-pyramid
Try downloading the Sep 24th version, backup anything you need backed up, then reboot into 4EXT recovery and format all partitions (excluding SDcard) from the wipe/format menu. After that is done, while still in recovery flash the cm-10-20120924-bruce2728-pyramid.zip file.
CM10 is snappier for me than any Sense ROM so this should fix the issue.
Thanks. But..
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Mine works fine, using cm-10-20120924-bruce2728-pyramid
Try downloading the Sep 24th version, backup anything you need backed up, then reboot into 4EXT recovery and format all partitions (excluding SDcard) from the wipe/format menu. After that is done, while still in recovery flash the cm-10-20120924-bruce2728-pyramid.zip file.
CM10 is snappier for me than any Sense ROM so this should fix the issue.
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yeah man. Thats what i do every time. The ROM sure is fast. but the opening of apps animations is choppy for me. Even closing apps sometimes. Anyway il download the 24th sep build. Give it another shot. Thanks anyway.
Try today's test version with included new kernel!
9/24 build is running perfect no reboots,good battery life.
Bruce's J.b. 4.1.1
The only thing which I feel choppy in CM10 is still the flicking and scrolling up and down especially in a browser. However, the UI is smooth. Perhaps it'll still take a bit more time to reach fluidity for all apps running in CM10. By the way, I'm trying out the 24/9 build right now and there has been great improvements over the older builds.
Hmm
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The only thing which I feel choppy in CM10 is still the flicking and scrolling up and down especially in a browser. However, the UI is smooth. Perhaps it'll still take a bit more time to reach fluidity for all apps running in CM10. By the way, I'm trying out the 24/9 build right now and there has been great improvements over the older builds.
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I did try out the 24/9 build . The animations were back to smooth. but then still scrolling through the app drawer isnt 60 fps by any means. even the fluidity while droping the notification menu is not perfect and pretty erratic. I mean isnt Vsync and triple buffering suposed to mean ultimate fluidity? or we arent experiencing because of the unavailiblity of proper graphics drivers? Is there a long way to go or is it near what jelly bean is on the GNex.
After I installed the latest update which I think is JellyBean the ICS+ browser doesn't work. I uninstalled and reinstalled and it just crashes when the program is ran. Dolphin and Firefox still works, but I was getting used to the ICS+ browser. Anyone else have this problem or are there any other browser alternatives out there? Dolphin is really nice and I'll probably stick with that if I have no choice. Hey, at least flash works! I bust my girlfriends chops all the time about her iPad not having flash and some of her web pages just look horrible with Safari. She could never find an alternative browser for her iPad. Apple makes it very difficult to find programs that replace the core stuff on the iPad. A huge negative and one of the many reasons why I love Android so much better then ios.
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After I installed the latest update which I think is JellyBean the ICS+ browser doesn't work. I uninstalled and reinstalled and it just crashes when the program is ran. Dolphin and Firefox still works, but I was getting used to the ICS+ browser. Anyone else have this problem or are there any other browser alternatives out there? Dolphin is really nice and I'll probably stick with that if I have no choice. Hey, at least flash works! I bust my girlfriends chops all the time about her iPad not having flash and some of her web pages just look horrible with Safari. She could never find an alternative browser for her iPad. Apple makes it very difficult to find programs that replace the core stuff on the iPad. A huge negative and one of the many reasons why I love Android so much better then ios.
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yes, for me it's the same.
Did you read the app description in the Play Store? It says "Not compatible with Jelly Bean"...
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Stock browser is just as good now imo. What are you missing that ics+ gives you?
It was called ICS+ (Ice Cream Sandwich +) for a reason. It was an extension of the ICS browser. I used myself as my primary, but yest with Jelly Bean the ICS browser is different, and as stated before it is shown in the app description that it will not work on JB. Now that said. I do hope they might make a JB+, but really the JB browser works just the same for me, without the home button.
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Stock browser is just as good now imo. What are you missing that ics+ gives you?
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I agree.
Stock in JB is just fine.
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Stock browser is just as good now imo. What are you missing that ics+ gives you?
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One of the features that I miss to this day is an extended version of "Quick Controls" -- the controls option you can turn on in Settings / Labs that displays a semi-circle pop-up menu when you tap right right or left edge of the screen. In the stock browser, the menu is very limited, with just a few functions. In ICS+, you could choose to add / activate numerous functions and customize your installation pretty extensively. It was very powerful, and very useful. At the time, it became a must-have feature for me, and I wound up preferring ICS+ to Dolphin, Firefox, Maxthon, etc. Really miss ICS+ and hope dev considers implementing a JB version.
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One of the features that I miss to this day is an extended version of "Quick Controls" -- the controls option you can turn on in Settings / Labs that displays a semi-circle pop-up menu when you tap right right or left edge of the screen. In the stock browser, the menu is very limited, with just a few functions. In ICS+, you could choose to add / activate numerous functions and customize your installation pretty extensively. It was very powerful, and very useful. At the time, it became a must-have feature for me, and I wound up preferring ICS+ to Dolphin, Firefox, Maxthon, etc. Really miss ICS+ and hope dev considers implementing a JB version.
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Yes I use these as well but there are over 15 given in the new stock JB. If you use quick ics browser you can configure them as well.
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Yes I use these as well but there are over 15 given in the new stock JB. If you use quick ics browser you can configure them as well.
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yes....I went back and checked. Some of what I was missing is in the fly out sub menus.
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Yes I use these as well but there are over 15 given in the new stock JB. If you use quick ics browser you can configure them as well.
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Also, see this thread for info on a setting in the stock browswer that really speeds things up-- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1923285
If you're not rooted you can't use browser2ram, but honestly, I don't think it's needed to apply this tweak. Good luck!