Laptop fast charge - HTC Sensation

Many of you are probably familiar with the USB cable hack that I believe started in the galaxy s forums but I believe it also works for us also. The main idea is that when we are connected to our laptops via USB we are limited to a very low current to charge our phones. This hack involves shorting I believe are the data transfer lines in the short male and female extension cord so that the laptop will not recognize the phone as a data transfer. You guys can search around for the thread but if you need it I will provide it. Below is a snapshot of my cables and charge rate of USB plugged in and ac charge from the laptop.
I do feel the quality of the cable does matter also. Below is a generic htc cord from dealextreme and a mediabridge cord from amazon. The mediabridge cord provided a charge of at least 700mA connected to the shorted extension cord while the generic HTC cord provided a number of about 200mA. Also provided in the pictures is where you see in battery monitor widget a number of about 400mA. That is the mediabridge cord connected straight to the laptop.
These are my findings. Mods or anyone, if you find that this is not legit enough of a post, then go ahead and remove it. I did not provide any instructions to do this, just my findings.
Feel free to correct me and refute my findings. This could all be a placebo.
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Well, I wouldn't be so sure the DX cord is legit.. Cord length and quality means a lot, also not every laptop.can.produce enough juice anyway.
I would have checked each with a power socket usb, of 1A 5V output. Again, would not trust DX on that one
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For sure. This is reference to those who are still iffy about buying things from DX or some sellers from ebay who may sell things like these. Mostly a recommendation to just stick with oem cords or more higher end cords with a higher guage and quality.
Yes, true not all laptops can produce all that juice, but for those who do have the laptop that can, this is a good temporary method for those times where you haven't received your good oem adaptor yet. I'm actually waiting for mine in the mail since I gave all mine to my sisters. :] Because of that, I decided to try this method. And lucky me it works just fine!

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Short HTC Micro USB cable

Hi,
I'm looking for a short usb cable to charge my DHD...I searched the forums and found this link:
h t t p ://shop.brando.com/brando-workshop-usb-to-micro-usb-adapter_p04234c1181d039.html
Will this be compatible with the HTC Desire HD?
I could swear someone I've met before - who has a Desire - has got a short HTC marked usb cable - does anyone know anything about that?
Thanks
As long as it's a USB to Micro USB cable any will do fine no matter brand.
Otterjasie said:
Hi,
I'm looking for a short usb cable to charge my DHD...I searched the forums and found this link:
h t t p ://shop.brando.com/brando-workshop-usb-to-micro-usb-adapter_p04234c1181d039.html
Will this be compatible with the HTC Desire HD?
I could swear someone I've met before - who has a Desire - has got a short HTC marked usb cable - does anyone know anything about that?
Thanks
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It should be. Any standard USB cable should do.
try something like this :
www.dicksmith.com.au/product/E6201/milkshake-retractable-cable-usb-to-mini-micro
you can find these cables on ebay.
works well and also does mini usb. be careful some usb to micro usb cables are for charging only and do not have the data lines connected.
Yeah. I've always been amazed by vendor branded usb cables - nokia is guilty too, they try to give the impression that their ones are different but any compliant usb cable will work.
I've just ordered a couple of Micro to Mini USB adapters. I have loads of Mini USB leads at home but only 1 micro USB which is the one that came with the phone.
be careful with those mini to micro usb adapters as a lot of them do not have the data lines connected so they are only useful for charging.
I have a short Nokia CA-101D cable that came with a 5800. Works fine with Samsung i8910, HTC Desire and Desire HD (from my experience) for both data and power.
Cable is 20cm long and can be bought for less than £2 from various places including Amazon and Ebay.
Hope this helps. John
Check this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=669622&highlight=smartcable
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Check this thread
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That's cute and clever that thing, but to the OP: if you want a short cable to charge off your laptop then it won't work. Even off the PC. It will only charge from the mains.
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That's cute and clever that thing, but to the OP: if you want a short cable to charge off your laptop then it won't work. Even off the PC. It will only charge from the mains.
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Errrm, no. Mine charges just fine from the USB port on the pc and laptop.
Yeah, can draw up to 500mA from a standard usb port.
lol damn i got a crappy usb connection then! I say there watching 60% for over an hour so I was left thinking it didn't charge, only transferred data!
IMO USB charges should be avoided, it should be possible to turn off charging.
While it is not exactly harmful to the battery like it used to be, I have the pretty strong feeling that low-ampere charges suck. Try it your self one day, after your battery is fully conditioned. Go down to like 40% of charge and then leave it at some USB port overnight. Then watch how quickly the power drains the next day. Then compare that to a charge from 40% to full on a high ampere (1000-1200mah) connections like the mains charger or a good car charger.
The charge seems to last longer. I have noticed this with multiple USB-charging devices now and I think it has to do with the amperage / time of the charger. The lower it is, the longer the charge takes the shallower the carged battery is.
That was the feeling I had too psychotic, but when I claimed this at a different forum I was laughed at and told that a full charge is a full charge except that a USB-charge takes longer... Do you have anything to back it up?
If looking to charge in the car...
... then aren't there specific USB cables where a couple of the pins are shorted or something so that the car panel opens? Seen a thread on this site, but can't find it right now!
wineds said:
try something like this :
you can find these cables on ebay.
works well and also does mini usb. be careful some usb to micro usb cables are for charging only and do not have the data lines connected.
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That was the feeling I had too psychotic, but when I claimed this at a different forum I was laughed at and told that a full charge is a full charge except that a USB-charge takes longer... Do you have anything to back it up?
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Actually I read somewhere that a computer slow charge actually gives you slightly more capacity. Can't remember where though! makes sense since fast charges usually get a bit lower capacity.
jords12 said:
Actually I read somewhere that a computer slow charge actually gives you slightly more capacity. Can't remember where though! makes sense since fast charges usually get a bit lower capacity.
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I think that's the case. Slow charging via USB also doesn't heat the battery up so much, so is kinder to it.
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That was the feeling I had too psychotic, but when I claimed this at a different forum I was laughed at and told that a full charge is a full charge except that a USB-charge takes longer... Do you have anything to back it up?
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If anything I can only the battery university website they do a lot of in depth explaining on how modern batts work. Please run a google search for battery university yourself cause I am in a hurry. I will give the link later tonight if you can't find it.
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Issue with charger

When I bought the Infuse Wednesday, I was excited to discover that the charging port is the same as my Bluetooth headset (Plantronics Voyager Pro) but while using the phone at work with the charger plugged in for the last 4 hours, I noticed my battery is around 20%. So my question is, do chargers and data cables made for other products not work with the Infuse? And if so, WHY!?
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i can't tell you offhand exactly why but its definitely true. My wifes samsung focus (wp7) charger actually doesnt charge my phone faster than it dies unless I am doing absolutely nothing on it. My phone actually died watching a movie through the hdmi out using her charger. And of course it died with 6 minutes to go. If I find any more info as to the "why" part I will be sure to post. But I wanted to let you know the charger definitely makes a difference
ok so I found a better answer: even though they all use the same voltage. Those 5v chargers have 1 main difference. Different Amperage. Some chargers output only .5A, while others put out 1A. These differences will in turn make the difference between how fast or well it charges your device. This is info I gathered so take it with a grain of salt. If anyone has a better answer or can elaborate feel free to do so!!
Ok, this does make sense. The charger I've been using all night is 5V 180mA... Not all that powerful. Just didn't think it would leave me at 5% 8 hours into my night shift...
Thanks.
Pat713 said:
When I bought the Infuse Wednesday, I was excited to discover that the charging port is the same as my Bluetooth headset (Plantronics Voyager Pro) but while using the phone at work with the charger plugged in for the last 4 hours, I noticed my battery is around 20%. So my question is, do chargers and data cables made for other products not work with the Infuse? And if so, WHY!?
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Plantronics headset chargers are rated, at MOST, 300 mA. (That's what the one that came with my 975 is rated.)
Our phones need at LEAST 500 mA. The wall charger is rated 700 mA, if you want to run navigation in a car dock it looks like you need at least 1000 mA.
Also, our chargers signal that a "dumb charger" is present by shorting D+ and D- together. I'm not sure what our phones will do with chargers that don't do this (at the moment I'm assuming the phone goes into USB charging mode instead of AC.) In the case of the car dock, what the charger does is irrelevant, as the dock signals its presence in another way and does not pass through D- and D+ from the charger. (D+ and D- go to the audio line out of the dock.)
Also, our phone (and likely many others) assume that they can get whatever current is needed from the charger, so if the charger "droops", it doesn't seem to do anything other than act weird (in most cases, drain the battery).
And another problem I found.. When I first got my Infuse, I was thrilled to see that it used the same type of cable that several other devices I have used. MicroUSB...
So I tried charging with the cable & charger from my Kindle. No go.
It will charge with the Kindle charger, just not the Kindle USB cable. Which makes the 4 extra kindle cables I have useless..
If I had time and inclination, I'd set about to figure out what the difference is between the two cables.
One of the reasons I returned my Atrix and bought an Infuse was because None of my MICRO-USB chargers worked with the Atrix. So far they have all worked with my Infuse.
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And another problem I found.. When I first got my Infuse, I was thrilled to see that it used the same type of cable that several other devices I have used. MicroUSB...
So I tried charging with the cable & charger from my Kindle. No go.
It will charge with the Kindle charger, just not the Kindle USB cable. Which makes the 4 extra kindle cables I have useless..
If I had time and inclination, I'd set about to figure out what the difference is between the two cables.
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That's odd, I was able to use the usb cable that came with my kindle 3.
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One thing I learned working at multiple cell phone places: Motorola phones are PICKY when it comes to chargers. Sprint basically has an ongoing memo to every tech, moto phones are ONLY to be used with moto chargers. It makes no real sense, but it's true.
I've also noticed that my iGo charger takes a good bit less time for a full charge than what came with the phone. Also, not using the adapter and plugging the phone directly into a computer via USB, also makes charging faster. I this k the problem is the USB adapter that Samsung tossed in. Just my .02!
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One thing - phones vary widely in how they determine that a "dumb charger" is connected.
Samsungs look for D- and D+ shorted to each other. A lot of generic chargers (like the $1.25 Monoprice car chargers) do this.
Apple devices look for weird resistor combinations from D- and D+ to +5 and ground. See http://www.ladyada.net/make/mintyboost/icharge.html
Mini-USB motos used weird combos of resistors to D- and D+ along with resistors between a normally unconnected pin and GND. MicroUSB defines this extra pin as "ID". Our phone uses resistors between ID and GND to determine if "other" devices are connected, such as the Jig, Car Dock, Home Dock, etc. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=820275 for more details.
The MicroUSB cable that came from our phones is pretty thin-gauge wire. I have a cable from Monoprice that should work MUCH better at high currents, and HAS worked better at high currents with the car dock and an iPad charger. (Without the car dock, it gets seen as a USB charger due to the funky iCharging resistors mentioned above. The car dock works because it doesn't pass USB D+ and D- from the charger to the phone.)
WARNING: I reference the Monoprice cheapo chargers above. They claim they are a 1A charger but they are NOT. They have a resistor that sets peak switch current of the regulator to 600 mA, and output current is going to be less than this.

USB cable?

Anyone know where to buy the same cable with charger plug that comes with the phone? I bought a samsung cable off amazon and it doesn't work. Thanks.
It's a standard micro-USB cable. Amazon has some non-generics made by Blackberry for a little over a dollar.
I bought the Samsung Replacement USB Data Charging Cable for Samsung SPH-M330, SCH-R100, SGH-T939, SCH-R850 and it does not work with the Charge.
I bought this
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0049IE70I and
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001XXUOQI
I think the second one is the one you are saying you bought...I bought 4 of them and they all work.
I know its just a normal micro usb cable, but I also would like to find a few more of the factory cables that came with the Charge. They are really nice quality. If you compare part numbers the Charge cable and charger have a newer part number than what is currently available on samsungs website. Maybe they are slowly phasing the new cable and charger in replacing the older style.
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The micro USB cable I'm using now that worked with the Thunderbolt does not work with the Charge. Does anyone know of any 6ft cables they know work with the Charge? I'm also wondering if it might be the cigarette adapter that is not up to the task.
you do have to be careful because several merchants are going to see the term "Charge Cable" and think that it is meant for the Charge, however it is actually meant for "Charging only"
I have several microusb charging cables and they do not allow usb mode, however if it clearly states "for sync" it should work...
cheap generics
MyCableMart offers some great deals on cables. I bought a 6ft and a 10ft from them and both work great with my Charge.
mycablemart(dot)com/store/cart.php?c=26&m=product_list#USB
p.s. I can't post links yet
foister82 said:
you do have to be careful because several merchants are going to see the term "Charge Cable" and think that it is meant for the Charge, however it is actually meant for "Charging only"
I have several microusb charging cables and they do not allow usb mode, however if it clearly states "for sync" it should work...
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+1. Be careful. Any old USB to micro-USB cable will charge the phone, but you won't be reading or writing data without the proper version of the cable. I found that out the hard way after trying to get Odin to recognize the Charge with a generic cable for an hour before finally trying the OEM Samsung cable
I used my OG Motorola Droid's micro USB cable to root the other day, it worked flawlessly.
Any micro USB should work and can be bought anywhere. I used the micro USB cable from my WD Passport.
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Just go with monoprice... http://www.monoprice.com/products/subdepartment.asp?c_id=103&cp_id=10303#1030307
If you're not familiar with them- they do great quality cables (across the board) for dirt cheap...hdmi, home theater, computer etc...p.s. their LCD mounts are great and cheap too.
I'm personally trying to track down a good quality retractable micro-usb cable for use in the car...I looked at a few on amazon, but the reviews were sketchy for some issues with the connector not being long enough. Anyone have any experience?
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I used my OG Motorola Droid's micro USB cable to root the other day, it worked flawlessly.
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+1 I am also using Motorola cables without any issues. Superb quality, using them for everything.
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I only use the samsung cable when using odin. I read there is an extra pin for data but I might be wrong or motorola used the same data pin. I have 2 retractable cables I use, ine I keep in my bag for data transfer/charging and one in my work desk for charging only. My work Mac hates when I plug in the data cable so It's just safer to use the charge only cable if I'm not transfering data.
Apparently the Charge has a special cable with some pin that allows flashing through Odin.
Not only that, I'm pretty sure you need the correct type of cable for the correct voltage output(if you want a full and fast charge)
Hi all. I am deciding between the Charge and the Infuse for work (we have contracts with both ATT and Verizon).
I was reading about the USB cable for the Charge. Looks like I need the "special" cable to do both charging AND data as you guys are discovering.
Can anyone confirm if that is the same case for the Infuse?
Thanks
Ernie
aesalazar said:
Hi all. I am deciding between the Charge and the Infuse for work (we have contracts with both ATT and Verizon).
I was reading about the USB cable for the Charge. Looks like I need the "special" cable to do both charging AND data as you guys are discovering.
Can anyone confirm if that is the same case for the Infuse?
Thanks
Ernie
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I wouldn't join AT&T over something so minor as a USB cable. Verizon's network much more reliable imo.
It's not the phone that is causing the charge only/charge and data issue it's the cable itself. Some cables are marketed as charge only cables that are not made with any wires for data. There are universal cables for data and charging that have these wires.
What I was talking about is a special pin for use with Odin. Possibly a special factory function or error checking. That's why I always use the factory cable for flashing.
FYI: The cable I bought is defective as it won't work on my friends dx2 either. I still would like to know where to get the official cable from (assuming the price is not crazy) if anyone knows.
Thanks for the info guys. Interesting about that extra pin. Also a bit of a PITA since it nice to be able to use just any cable lying around.
Ernie

Infuse picky about cables.

So turns out I didn't ship this week... -_- Just what I've come to expect from the military lol. But on to my thread! Is it just me, or do any of you guys ever have issues with certain USB cables? My phone seems extremely picky about which ones work and whatnot. I've tried an LG one for a Sprint Optimus S, borrowed from my sister to charge and it wouldn't charge, tried an HTC from my girlfriend's Inspire, and I also tried an AT&T generic cable. The last two cables will charge, but no data will work, and I know there's nothing wrong with them because they all work with other people. So far I've only had luck with the Samsung official, and it seems as if mine has lost it's data abilities So on my quest to find a new one to purchase, I've wanted to avoid one that wouldn't work. If any of you guys have this problem with your phone being picky about cables, please let me know so I don't feel like I'm just crazy, lol.
Yes, i have had my share of problems with cables. I had one from my old Aria that i tried to use to charge one day and completely mest up my phone. My computer wouldn't recognize the phone, it wouldn't charge, etc. That was a headache. I just stick with the Samsung cables.
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honestly ive never had issues, i just got my infuse today but its charged from several differnt cables,
Car Charger
Blackberry Charger and Cable
HTC Cable in PC (and data worked)
Ive never had issues, it seems that I have about 7 or 8 micro usb cables/chargers and from my captivate to my brand new infuse ive never experienced an issue..
I've had some issues with the orignal charging cable actually wanting to charge my phone.
Also, when plugging the phone into the computer I can't use the stock cable to do any flashing and sometimes USB doesn't work. I end up using a charging cable from my Logitech K800 keyboard and it works like a charm.
Maybe look at the cables for the K800 from Logitech, I have used it to charge via wall adapter, computer USB port, and it works for flashing. It's also longer than hell and comes with a little Velcro hoop attached to it for easy storage / transportation.
I'm glad I'm not the only one with this issue, lol. I thought my phone was just crazy, haha.
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I've never had a problem with any cable (BlackBerry, HTC, various Samsung) on any of my Samsung devices. Used them on Captivate, Epic and Infuse with no problems. I almost wonder if the USB port's quality is as big a factor as the cables.
My phone will charge about 55% of the time. It is the most annoying and aggravating thing I have ever encountered. Of course I can't take it back because I dropped it and shattered the screen about 2 days before my case came in the mail
Some of the AT&T cables are charging-only and won't pass data (they get lots of bad reviews for this...)
General rule:
A straight-through cable will depend on the charger to determine how the device charges. If the charger shorts D+ and D- together on its end, the phone assumes AC. If the charger uses iPad/iPhone resistors to indicate a dumb charger, the Samsung will assume USB. Not sure what happens if the charger has nothing on D+/D-.
Some of the AT&T cables short D+ and D- together in the cable - meaning they'll always charge as an AC charger but won't work for data.
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Entropy512 said:
Some of the AT&T cables are charging-only and won't pass data (they get lots of bad reviews for this...)
General rule:
A straight-through cable will depend on the charger to determine how the device charges. If the charger shorts D+ and D- together on its end, the phone assumes AC. If the charger uses iPad/iPhone resistors to indicate a dumb charger, the Samsung will assume USB. Not sure what happens if the charger has nothing on D+/D-.
Some of the AT&T cables short D+ and D- together in the cable - meaning they'll always charge as an AC charger but won't work for data.
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If anyone is short on micro usb or in the market for one,
look for data cables instead of just a charge cable.
they're about a buck ea. on ebay
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trk...&_sticky=1&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_sop=15&_sc=1
I picked up about a half-dozen Blackberry branded micro USB cables off ebay for a buck a piece, shipped; they worked like a charm.
I mistakenly thought it wouldn't matter, and on a business trip to NY took my son's cable from his LG dumb-phone. I had all kinds of problems with it, so yes, I see that behavior too. It wouldn't charge unless I fully seated the cable and then removed it halfway out of the USB connector on the phone. Even then, I occasionally had problems with it.
Had the same issues. Good cables has associated "click" event when it inserted, bad ones are loose. If you look at USB connection from Samsung made cables it has significantly larges pins on bottom (probably 2x time bigger then other brands) and that's what makes a difference. This is also important in a car with a lot of vibration. I just bought specifically Samsung OEM branded microUSB cables from eBay and never had any issues after that.
FWIW... USB cables from Monoprice work just fine on my Infuse.
And I had issues charging with a cable from another Samsung phone.
My Infuse stopped being reconized by computer and at same time I realized that it wasn't charging also. It would charge on my computer but not wall or car charger. While munchin down on some wings I dropped it and it splashed into the bleu cheese dressing. The mic and charge port were crammed with cheese. I thought I cleaned it but no. I took a tooth cleaning pick (used to get food out of your teeth, has a green brush on one end) swabbed it in alcohol, the rubbing variety and gently scrubbed the contacts. Phone now charges on all chargers, computer still won't connect.
Had all sorts of issues with cords/ports. I'm convinced it has something to do with the dual sd cards. But who knows. Anyways now using a monster data cord and it works great! well as long as I only use it on one specific USB port
socialal said:
Had all sorts of issues with cords/ports. I'm convinced it has something to do with the dual sd cards. But who knows. Anyways now using a monster data cord and it works great! well as long as I only use it on one specific USB port
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The SD cards have nothing to do with it.
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I used to have the Captivate and when I bought the Infuse 4G, I accidently sent the cable that came with the Infuse with the Captivate. It turned out the two cables were the exact same model but somehow my Infuse will only allow me to charge with the Captivate cable and not data.
That is why I have resorted to cloud syncing. It is the future!

there IS a difference in usb cables

I have read so many threads with problem x solved by using a quality USB cable, and yet I still find others arguing that there is no difference in cheap cables. In-fact i have just had a discussion about this with a friend yesterday so i thought i would just let everyone know - USE A GOOD CABLE!
To test this I used an ebay cable, oem samsung, oem moto, and a case logic cable. I then simply transferred a small 6 mb file and a larger 200mb file to the phone.
Ebay - phone wouldn't even connect to pc.
Sam - both worked
Moto - both worked
Case - 6 mb worked, 200 started and then completely froze forcing phone reboot.
So again, especially when flashing, use a good cable!
Good to know. Thanks
Just another heads up... My wife has a Motorola and I have the siii. Using my siii cable, both of our phones charge at least three times faster. Using the Motorola cable, both of our phones charge much slower.
Another heads up... Get the best of both worlds, high quality and low price on a usb cable. Go to monoprice.com!
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Most Likely those talking about difference in Cables could be talking about how each manufacture alters their cable.
For example, Moto and Samsung have a Resister that links 2 of the 5 pins which is hidden in the plastic. Reason for this is, Car docks, it would tell phone to open car dock App etc, Same for media docks.
Charger usb cables are same because some phones can handle a higher amp of charging which charges faster while a standard usb cable needs to made to have a limit to not fry the device it is being used on.
Hope This helps, i know it did when I learned this,. Now it makes more reasons and ideas for Mods...LOL
This is news??
Duh.
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Isn't it just safe to use the USB cable that came with the device?
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This is news??
Duh.
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News???
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News???
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I mean, I thought this was a given...
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I mean, I thought this was a given...
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LOL....Was trying to be nice and spread a little learned knowledge to person here talking about differences in usb ....and why
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LOL....Was trying to be nice and spread a little learned knowledge to person here talking about differences in usb ....and why
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Fair enough!
***bows head in silence
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monoprice
TheHobbyist said:
Get the best of both worlds, high quality and low price on a usb cable. Go to monoprice.com!
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I'll second that, best place to get almost any cable you can think of. I have yet to be disappointed.
sircody said:
Most Likely those talking about difference in Cables could be talking about how each manufacture alters their cable.
For example, Moto and Samsung have a Resister that links 2 of the 5 pins which is hidden in the plastic. Reason for this is, Car docks, it would tell phone to open car dock App etc, Same for media docks.
Charger usb cables are same because some phones can handle a higher amp of charging which charges faster while a standard usb cable needs to made to have a limit to not fry the device it is being used on.
Hope This helps, i know it did when I learned this,. Now it makes more reasons and ideas for Mods...LOL
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If you're using a charger for a different device, it's likely that they have different amperage. A 2 amp charger will charge your phone a LOT faster than, say, the 0.5 amps off your computer's USB port. In this case, it's not the USB cable itself, but the amperage of the transformer in the charger. Some may argue that the slower charge is "better" and will help your battery last longer.
If you're using the same charger with different USB cables, then this is news.
I haven't even used the OEM cable that came with my GSIII. I picked up a 6 foot no name USB cable from newegg for $1.39 and it works fine.
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tech.kyle said:
If you're using a charger for a different device, it's likely that they have different amperage. A 2 amp charger will charge your phone a LOT faster than, say, the 0.5 amps off your computer's USB port. In this case, it's not the USB cable itself, but the amperage of the transformer in the charger. Some may argue that the slower charge is "better" and will help your battery last longer.
If you're using the same charger with different USB cables, then this is news.
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Was going to point this exact thing out. It is also possible the cables could be rated for passing different rates but it is much more likely that something is putting off more power so it charges faster. I do tend to agree though that slower is better since you can pull the plug faster and not overcharge
Over time I end up having loose connection problems with virtually any microusb cable i buy, including from monoprice. At first the cable plugs into the phone fine and charges. Overtime somehow the microusb part that goes in the phone is looser in the phone than before, and i have to angle my phone in way to get it to start charging. The slightest movement causes the charging to stop. I have had this problem with almost every micro usb cable i ever owned ever since I got an htc thunderbolt and the problem continues now with my s3.
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These work fine for me
http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?itemId=400319400418&index=0&nav=SEARCH&nid=76893193121
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going to mono price. I'll report the results.
One thing to keep in mind also is that most, if not all, USB cables aren't shielded so the longer they are they degrade the transfer speeds etc. I don't think it would make a difference for charging, but to transfer data a shorter higher quality cable would be your best bet. I don't know if the degradation would be noticeable tho...
zmedhaug said:
going to mono price. I'll report the results.
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You wont be disappointed. Quality products at great prices. They also stand behind their products if, in the rare event, you have a problem with one.
zedocus16 said:
I have read so many threads with problem x solved by using a quality USB cable, and yet I still find others arguing that there is no difference in cheap cables. In-fact i have just had a discussion about this with a friend yesterday so i thought i would just let everyone know - USE A GOOD CABLE!
To test this I used an ebay cable, oem samsung, oem moto, and a case logic cable. I then simply transferred a small 6 mb file and a larger 200mb file to the phone.
Ebay - phone wouldn't even connect to pc.
Sam - both worked
Moto - both worked
Case - 6 mb worked, 200 started and then completely froze forcing phone reboot.
So again, especially when flashing, use a good cable!
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When you say the transfer started and then froze, I would have to ask what ROM you're running. If it's TW or TW-based, I'd be much more willing to blame the software than the cable. Using Samsung's MTP interface, I have had plenty of large file transfers crap out using both high and low quality cables.
Either way, this test is hardly complete. Obviously somethings wrong with the Ebay cable, but for the other tests, you need to run them more than once. To give any statistical significance to the data, the tests have to be run a bunch of times. Otherwise it is (as far as you know) just luck.
Also, as others have said, I think the primary differences between cheap and "quality" usb cables are
Amperage (which is mostly due to the charger, not the cable, but generally you want a cable that can handle it)
Quality of the connector (cheap cables generally have flimsy connectors)
Quality of construction/Durability (may work fine, but die after a month or two).
I don't think data transfer is something that is really impacted much by the quality of the cable (until you hit that point where the cheap cable just stops working). Getting back to my earlier point about the limited testing, I think if you ran the same test a whole bunch of times (like 100 times for each file on each cable), you'd find that as long as the cable actually works (which seems to exclude the ebay one), they'd probably perform about the same on average.
Just my two cents.

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