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Android 4.1 ports?

As Jelly Bean (Android 4.1) has just been released and has already been ripped from the GNex, I am wondering about the portability of it. It seems pretty close to ICS, so will all the mods and fixes the amazing Sensation devs came up with for ICS still work with JB with minimal tweaks? Not asking for any sort of ETA, just wondering if porting will be similar to ICS.

Jelly bean vs ics

What is the difference between these 2 Android versions?I know jelly bean is for tablets and ics is for phones but is there any need to use jelly bean?
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Stupid Swype, the title is meant to be jelly bean, but I don't know how to change it :s
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Click edit post then go advance. you should be able to edit title from there.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5E5revikUU
check this video out :laugh:

And your info aren't correct. ICS is for both phones and tablets. The same will be for JB ...
JB is an upgrade for ICS fixes stuff and adds features ... see Here for more details.

uumm, jelly bean is not only for tablet..
It's an upgrade and some bugfixing as well as performance improvements over ICS.. You may or may not need that, but it's good to have..
It's not really a major leap, unlike from 2.3 to 4.0..
You only need to use newer version of android if you are the type who always want the latest and greatest.. while it's not as smooth as ICS or JB, Gingerbread is already enough for most users, especially if you are not power-user..
If you are asking that question, chances are, you don't even need ICS, let alone JB..

No offence but Google it, there are some really good articles and videos on Google, especially those that visually show the new project Butter.
And don't fear you're not alone with the Swype issues, just need to reprogram the brain to spend half the time saved by using Swype to re-read all input....nowhere near as easy as it sounds
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ben_pyett said:
No offence but Google it, there are some really good articles and videos on Google, especially those that visually show the new project Butter.
And don't fear you're not alone with the Swype issues, just need to reprogram the brain to spend half the time saved by using Swype to re-read all input....nowhere near as easy as it sounds
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Never tried Swype, but SwiftKey 3 has never given me a problem..

Looking forward to Jelly Bean

It is the best keyboard I have found but because I say jerky more than jelly, it remembers that I'm more likely to say jerky
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JB has a app like Siri

ics i think
For now i am enjoying the ics on my note and i am waiting for the 4.0.4 update. I am satisfied with the late release of ics on note. I have n7000 and i got the update in june. Its fluid, stable just like how ginger bread was when i got my note. Jelly bean will take time to roll. My question is why all of a sudden we need jelly beans. Why not let the developers at ease so they can really make something special for all the devices at once. In current days new os is a guarantee to hi end device.

LG Motion Jelly Bean!

OK I've used Google and done some digging on other forums with no results.
Is there a working Jelly Bean Cyanogen or AOKP ROM for the LG Motion? I'd really like to have Jelly Bean and I'm sure I'm not the only one patiently waiting... If anyone has any updates on obtaining Jelly Bean, or links to working custom ROMs for the LG Motion, post them here.
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LG Motion Jelly Bean
There are only un-official Cyanogen Mod 10.1 (Which is Jelly Bean) ports out there.
They are all what I would call Alpha coming close to Beta level of done-ness.
Do a google search for "playfuldroidz CyanogenMod 10 Motion" and you will find the best one I've found.
Also search for BobZhome and PlayfulGod in the forums as they are the main developers.
But no one has completely ported Jelly Bean to the Motion.
I've installed the port listed above a few times and have watched it get better and better, but keep switching back, because of one thing or another. Other people are not having the problem, but I keep being un-successful in getting the GPS to work. There are volume problems or echo problems (When they fix one it causes the other and they haven't pieced together a solution for both.) So because it's too soft and because I can't get the GPS working I always flash back to ICS.
The Motion has some unique problems that have prevented it from getting a lot of developer support.
1. It's screen resolution is small and weird.
2. It's a very in-expensive phone, most developers want the biggest and the best.
3. It's on MetroPCS... most developers go with a more mainstream phone service.
4. It's now getting to be an older phone with regards to the forward movement of technology.
Because of this Cyanomod will never support it officially. The only developers who are working on it have multiple projects going and the LG Motion is not their main phone... they just kinda play with it as a hobby project... and as bigger and better and newer phones come out... they will get bored and move on. I have a feeling we will never really get a fully fleshed out version of Jelly Bean for the Motion...I'm sorry.

Galaxy S4 software on Galaxy S3

Hi guys Happy 4th of July!
Question is: I am liking the Galaxy S4 a lot and I don't have an upgrade available until Oct/2014. Is there any ROM for the S3 that is similar to the Galaxy S4? or does anyone knows of any specials anywhere where I can upgrade now instead of waiting so long?
Best,
M

Remember you can only get so close to the s4 software, as the hardware is entirely different, the software is usually based on the hArdware.but there is the s4 voice,s4 launcher, there's a couple of roms similar to the s4 can't think of any rite now but it's very easily found in the forum.
clean Rom/xda powerd by zero-lemon & tweaked out Guided by the power of Zeus kernel!!

Hulk0069 said:
Remember you can only get so close to the s4 software, as the hardware is entirely different, the software is usually based on the hArdware.but there is the s4 voice,s4 launcher, there's a couple of roms similar to the s4 can't think of any rite now but it's very easily found in the forum.
clean Rom/xda powerd by zero-lemon & tweaked out Guided by the power of Zeus kernel!!
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Thanks

I think the major issue is the S4 is 4.2 based and our devices are still on 4.1. I remember when I was on my Incredible we got sense 3 and 3.5 ROMs once our gingerbread leak came out, so I'm guessing we'd need a 4.2 based touchwiz kernel for our device before we could get the S4's 4.2 based ROM ported to our device.
Even if we get 4.2 (it would be about 8-9 months from now) there's no guarantee it would work out that way. Many of our devs have already moved on to the S4 or other devices so they might not be interested in porting that for us. It may not even be possible - consistencies don't always apply in the technology world, even if we have a 4.2 kernel there might be some other reason why a port isn't possible.
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Div033 said:
I think the major issue is the S4 is 4.2 based and our devices are still on 4.1. I remember when I was on my Incredible we got sense 3 and 3.5 ROMs once our gingerbread leak came out, so I'm guessing we'd need a 4.2 based touchwiz kernel for our device before we could get the S4's 4.2 based ROM ported to our device.
Even if we get 4.2 (it would be about 8-9 months from now) there's no guarantee it would work out that way. Many of our devs have already moved on to the S4 or other devices so they might not be interested in porting that for us. It may not even be possible - consistencies don't always apply in the technology world, even if we have a 4.2 kernel there might be some other reason why a port isn't possible.
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So what ROM would be the most similar to the one on the S4? I am running CleanRom 6.2 and I like it but is there any other option?

Div033 said:
I think the major issue is the S4 is 4.2 based and our devices are still on 4.1. I remember when I was on my Incredible we got sense 3 and 3.5 ROMs once our gingerbread leak came out, so I'm guessing we'd need a 4.2 based touchwiz kernel for our device before we could get the S4's 4.2 based ROM ported to our device.
Even if we get 4.2 (it would be about 8-9 months from now) there's no guarantee it would work out that way. Many of our devs have already moved on to the S4 or other devices so they might not be interested in porting that for us. It may not even be possible - consistencies don't always apply in the technology world, even if we have a 4.2 kernel there might be some other reason why a port isn't possible.
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It is not as simple as having 4.2 kernel plus you have to better your explanation as we have Google AOSP 4.2 just not touchwiz 4.2. It is more to do with the hardware as it is easier to port from phones with similar hardware then it is to port from a phone with different specs. The best alternative is to port the apps and make an app like windows 8 launcher and Xperia Z launcher. So there isn't a "might be " there is another reason and that is hardware inconsistencies.

docmarioce said:
So what ROM would be the most similar to the one on the S4? I am running CleanRom 6.2 and I like it but is there any other option?
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Your best bet is to use a stock-ish MF1 based rom (cleanrom isn't up to date) and find + install a S4 apps package compatible with the S3. The S4 launcher and clock works fairly well on our phones. I don't think there are any roms that aim to mimic the S4 experience exclusively. They all have different theming elements with S4 apps here and there.
jmxc23 said:
It is not as simple as having 4.2 kernel plus you have to better your explanation as we have Google AOSP 4.2 just not touchwiz 4.2. It is more to do with the hardware as it is easier to port from phones with similar hardware then it is to port from a phone with different specs. The best alternative is to port the apps and make an app like windows 8 launcher and Xperia Z launcher. So there isn't a "might be " there is another reason and that is hardware inconsistencies.
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Sure, no problem.
The reason we're able to have a working 4.2 kernel for AOSP is because we're not reliant on Samsung's kernel source for that side of development. AOSP is completely open source as opposed to touchwiz which has proprietary framework that's closed source.
You mention hardware differences. I know things have changed drastically since GB, so perhaps the argument I'm about to make is invalid. On the Incredible we got roms from the Runnymede which had 100% completely different hardware. It had a chipset which was many generations ahead yet devs still managed to get Sense 3.5 roms running on a device which was not intended to run anything beyond Sense 1.0. It wasn't possible til we had a GB leak made for our phone (still sense 1.0). This is due to proprietary sense framework built in at the kernel level which the devs relied on for porting - they needed the updated 2.3 version of the sense bits. I know touchwiz isn't sense, so I could be making a bad comparison here, but saying "the hardware is too different" isn't a valid reason for porting to not be possible. It could be a very similar setup. I'm not familiar enough with touchwiz to be able to make that distinction though.
These Sense 3.5 roms were marred with several issues which ultimately made them impractical to use as a daily driver. This was mainly due to how outdated the incredible was and that it simply didn't have the resources to run the software adequately. They did get it working really well considering the limitations. It's also interesting to note that the development of the incredible still continues to this day with unofficial CM 10.1 roms. It's pretty amazing what these devs are actually capable of. It's just about getting the right dev interested enough to invest the time doing it.

Div033 said:
Your best bet is to use a stock-ish MF1 based rom (cleanrom isn't up to date) and find + install a S4 apps package compatible with the S3. The S4 launcher and clock works fairly well on our phones. I don't think there are any roms that aim to mimic the S4 experience exclusively. They all have different theming elements with S4 apps here and there.
Sure, no problem.
The reason we're able to have a working 4.2 kernel for AOSP is because we're not reliant on Samsung's kernel source for that side of development. AOSP is completely open source as opposed to touchwiz which has proprietary framework that's closed source.
You mention hardware differences. I know things have changed drastically since GB, so perhaps the argument I'm about to make is invalid. On the Incredible we got roms from the Runnymede which had 100% completely different hardware. It had a chipset which was many generations ahead yet devs still managed to get Sense 3.5 roms running on a device which was not intended to run anything beyond Sense 1.0. It wasn't possible til we had a GB leak made for our phone (still sense 1.0). This is due to proprietary sense framework built in at the kernel level which the devs relied on for porting - they needed the updated 2.3 version of the sense bits. I know touchwiz isn't sense, so I could be making a bad comparison here, but saying "the hardware is too different" isn't a valid reason for porting to not be possible. It could be a very similar setup. I'm not familiar enough with touchwiz to be able to make that distinction though.
These Sense 3.5 roms were marred with several issues which ultimately made them impractical to use as a daily driver. This was mainly due to how outdated the incredible was and that it simply didn't have the resources to run the software adequately. They did get it working really well considering the limitations. It's also interesting to note that the development of the incredible still continues to this day with unofficial CM 10.1 roms. It's pretty amazing what these devs are actually capable of. It's just about getting the right dev interested enough to invest the time doing it.
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True the sense 3 and 3.5 wasn't really good. We do have a Note 2,MIUI, and Sense 5 port for our devices and will likely to get ubuntu touch as soon as it is stable. Problem is that most of the developers don't have that much free time to attempt an international S3 or an US S4 port so they do what they can with the time they have.

jmxc23 said:
True the sense 3 and 3.5 wasn't really good. We do have a Note 2,MIUI, and Sense 5 port for our devices and will likely to get ubuntu touch as soon as it is stable. Problem is that most of the developers don't have that much free time to attempt an international S3 or an US S4 port so they do what they can with the time they have.
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I definitely agree; time is a huge issue. I'm assuming it's much more work porting a 4.2 based rom than it is a 2.3 based one. There's a good chance it's not worth the time investment considering the potentially buggy outcome.
Also, I apologize for assuming you didn't have any experience with earlier phones. Your join date threw me off

Div033 said:
I definitely agree; time is a huge issue. I'm assuming it's much more work porting a 4.2 based rom than it is a 2.3 based one. There's a good chance it's not worth the time investment considering the potentially buggy outcome.
Also, I apologize for assuming you didn't have any experience with earlier phones. Your join date threw me off
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I learn fast as the S3 is my first android device and within 3 days of buying the phone I rooted it and started flashing roms. I had ample opportunities to root/jailbreak my previous phones but waited until developers come up with better methods. As for the opening poster's question he will have to get the S4 launcher app and flash some of the S4 apps.

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Updates straight from google

So guys as most of you will know , Samsung will put touch wiz ui over jelly bean 4.3 before giving it to us. But why does it take long. I guess it just taking touch's wiv's coding and putting it on top of jelly bean...
So I'm really confused why does it take so long and why can't Google give us an option to get updates straight from them...

They would have to work around the TW frame work and it's stability before they release it. Also they would have to make sure that the air view and all that stuff work as well.

Wrong forum. But we're already getting one of the fastest updates from custom ROMs by our developers already since we have GE versions of our phones, thanks devs.
OTA of pure google roms with almost no delay is a reason why some people would choose GE phones or Nexus phones over the others.
Cheers.
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