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What is the difference between these 2 Android versions?I know jelly bean is for tablets and ics is for phones but is there any need to use jelly bean?
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Stupid Swype, the title is meant to be jelly bean, but I don't know how to change it :s
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5E5revikUU
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And your info aren't correct. ICS is for both phones and tablets. The same will be for JB ...
JB is an upgrade for ICS fixes stuff and adds features ... see Here for more details.
uumm, jelly bean is not only for tablet..
It's an upgrade and some bugfixing as well as performance improvements over ICS.. You may or may not need that, but it's good to have..
It's not really a major leap, unlike from 2.3 to 4.0..
You only need to use newer version of android if you are the type who always want the latest and greatest.. while it's not as smooth as ICS or JB, Gingerbread is already enough for most users, especially if you are not power-user..
If you are asking that question, chances are, you don't even need ICS, let alone JB..
No offence but Google it, there are some really good articles and videos on Google, especially those that visually show the new project Butter.
And don't fear you're not alone with the Swype issues, just need to reprogram the brain to spend half the time saved by using Swype to re-read all input....nowhere near as easy as it sounds
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ben_pyett said:
No offence but Google it, there are some really good articles and videos on Google, especially those that visually show the new project Butter.
And don't fear you're not alone with the Swype issues, just need to reprogram the brain to spend half the time saved by using Swype to re-read all input....nowhere near as easy as it sounds
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Never tried Swype, but SwiftKey 3 has never given me a problem..
Looking forward to Jelly Bean
It is the best keyboard I have found but because I say jerky more than jelly, it remembers that I'm more likely to say jerky
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JB has a app like Siri
ics i think
For now i am enjoying the ics on my note and i am waiting for the 4.0.4 update. I am satisfied with the late release of ics on note. I have n7000 and i got the update in june. Its fluid, stable just like how ginger bread was when i got my note. Jelly bean will take time to roll. My question is why all of a sudden we need jelly beans. Why not let the developers at ease so they can really make something special for all the devices at once. In current days new os is a guarantee to hi end device.
now, i understand that development takes time, but given the potential of this tablet, i am somewhat dissapointed. i haven't really seen much progress past getting root, unlock, a recovery, a few roms based on stock, and one guy trying to port cm10. i guess what we are waiting for is the official jellybean upgrade before development picks up.
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now, i understand that development takes time, but given the potential of this tablet, i am somewhat dissapointed. i haven't really seen much progress past getting root, unlock, a recovery, a few roms based on stock, and one guy trying to port cm10. i guess what we are waiting for is the official jellybean upgrade before development picks up.
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I feel you buddy, I'm coming from the Epic Touch forum that is very active in the development area. I too am disappointed with the lack of devs and ROMs for this tablet, but you have to realize its still fairly new and pretty expensive. I imagine most tablet devs would gravitate toward the Nexus 7 instead. Give it some time though, more will come.
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I feel you buddy, I'm coming from the Epic Touch forum that is very active in the development area. I too am disappointed with the lack of devs and ROMs for this tablet, but you have to realize its still fairly new and pretty expensive. I imagine most tablet devs would gravitate toward the Nexus 7 instead. Give it some time though, more will come.
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yeah, and they released this iteration way too soon (<6 months i think) for devs to leave their primes
I think a lot of the devs have sent theirs back. I'm kind of wishing I had with mine. Pretty disappointed with the device so far.
One of the AOKP devs is working on a port to the tf700, and judging by his twitter the only major things holding him back from a release are issues with Bluetooth and some visual glitches. Once we have that, roms should follow since we'll have a working AOSP base.
His twitter account is here:
www.twitter.com/_mrbirdman_
Actually to me, having custom ROMS on tablets is a little overrated. Root I can understand but seeing as I have owned the Xoom, Prime, and new the Infinity, must of the ROMS I have played with didn't add that much to the experience that stock already had. Outside of being able to use Sixaxis app, I have had little interest in rooting this Infinity. I think the wait for Jellybean is going to be with it.
Add in the fact that people are doing this on their free time, taking time away from their families, waiting a little bit won't hurt too bad.
SuperSwagSauce said:
I feel you buddy, I'm coming from the Epic Touch forum that is very active in the development area. I too am disappointed with the lack of devs and ROMs for this tablet, but you have to realize its still fairly new and pretty expensive. I imagine most tablet devs would gravitate toward the Nexus 7 instead. Give it some time though, more will come.
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and if you were in the e4gt forums from the beginning you will remember that it took several months for anything worth while to show up and how long for stable cm9? it took that forum quite a while to really get going.
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Actually to me, having custom ROMS on tablets is a little overrated. Root I can understand but seeing as I have owned the Xoom, Prime, and new the Infinity, must of the ROMS I have played with didn't add that much to the experience that stock already had. Outside of being able to use Sixaxis app, I have had little interest in rooting this Infinity. I think the wait for Jellybean is going to be with it.
Add in the fact that people are doing this on their free time, taking time away from their families, waiting a little bit won't hurt too bad.
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Well to each their own, but to me, it's in custom development that you really begin to use the device to it's full potential. For instance, the OG Xoom has been literally given new life with EOS Jellybean builds. Yes, the Xoom wifi did get the JB OTA update, but stock JB is nowhere near as great as the EOS nightlies. They have tweaked it to capacity. The same will happen with the TF700 in time, I hope.
I also have the Nexus 7 and it's true that development has exploded for it, but honestly, it's a really limited device. For that reason, devs are in a performance competition...pushing things to the max. The TF700 though needs to be able to work really well...we'll need to be able to find the balance between high performance and stability. The fact that it's not really skinned is in its favor. It's not a Nexus device though and so some devs will not be interested in working with it.
Part of the problem in developing custom roms - which I have been doing for the Galaxy S 2/3 - is that currently you cannot decompile/recompile the SystemUI.apk file for the TF700T. XDA user iBotPeaches has taken over development of the apktool (tool to decompile/recompile APKs) project and is aware of the problem I and others are having. He is working to fix it.
As soon as it is fixed, I will be releasing a custom rom for the TF700T, but I need to make changes to the SystemUI.apk file. I can decompile/recompile the framework-res.apk file (have added CRT OFF effect already - and it works better than on my Galaxy S3).
So please have a little patience while the development tools are fixed and improved.
One other point to consider is that the Jelly Bean update is right around the corner, so putting much effort into modifying the current ICS version or actually making Jelly Bean work on the tablet is a waste of time.
Just curious...What's the deal with the lack of development with our tab...specifically with the wifi version? Are the developers more interested in other tabs or what? Development just started to pick up and then went dead.
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Just curious...What's the deal with the lack of development with our tab...specifically with the wifi version? Are the developers more interested in other tabs or what? Development just started to pick up and then went dead.
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I'm not a developer but speaking strickly as a tablet user I can honestly say this is the first tablet I have owned where I had no desire to modify it in any way. This tablet functions just the way I want it too right out of the box.
So for me , lack of development has never been an issue.
Have to admit, even though I rooted so I could use Apps2SD, my Note is fairly perfect just the way it is.
It could be that they're waiting for jelly bean.
And yeah, the note is pretty much perfect the way it is.
I will say that I had the same problem with my note GT 7000 (the phone) having the perfect GUI.
It would be nice to see some fast kernels and slim Roms though. Maybe some themes.
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It would be nice to see some fast kernels and slim Roms though. Maybe some themes.
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+1. Exactly my point. ROMs arent always aosp. With our tab, because of the s pen functionality, its a given that custom stock roms would make more sense. But stock roms can always be slimmed down and tweaked.
I have asked a few devs if they could consider developing for the Note 10.1. And they have all asked they have a very tight schedeule but maybe later ( Indiemega) and another said about the same but he would be glad to help (Wanam) if i liked to develop myself. And its really no point in just building something thats no better or diffrent from stock. And that would be what i would have come up with, i dont have any skills to see what MOD or TWEAK would fit nice and that doesnt interfere with some other tweak. Lets just hope for the best and maybe when prices goes down in a couple of months the devs start coming.
I too don't pretty much have any issue in the way my Note 10.1 performs. It is already cool. Plus the promised JB update will make it even better. So why bother developing anything for something that's bound to get better in near future?
Let's wait and see and in the meantime enjoy our precious
Im going to say this again... theres always a need for development. No matter how good the stock rom is we as a community need custom roms. Lol
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I don't feel the need for this tablet... Just waiting for Jelly Beans!
Also can't wait for the Note II!
Develop for those that really need it.
this is the first tablet where i've had where stock is pretty damn good. great battery life, snappy processor, no real bugs... other than some apps i don't need this thing is great as is. even overclocking wouldn't make much of a difference in my usage.
still i'd probably flash a good JB rom when ever they start rolling out.
Devs come super handy when the product you like so mucho gets dropped officially, say goodbye to sweet potatoe pie 6.0, unless you upgrade the hardware.
dont burn bridges man, we need devs in the later years, no doubt.
This thread may interest some of you,
[PETITION] Let's get some Exynos sources!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1925709
spreading the good word
OK I've used Google and done some digging on other forums with no results.
Is there a working Jelly Bean Cyanogen or AOKP ROM for the LG Motion? I'd really like to have Jelly Bean and I'm sure I'm not the only one patiently waiting... If anyone has any updates on obtaining Jelly Bean, or links to working custom ROMs for the LG Motion, post them here.
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LG Motion Jelly Bean
There are only un-official Cyanogen Mod 10.1 (Which is Jelly Bean) ports out there.
They are all what I would call Alpha coming close to Beta level of done-ness.
Do a google search for "playfuldroidz CyanogenMod 10 Motion" and you will find the best one I've found.
Also search for BobZhome and PlayfulGod in the forums as they are the main developers.
But no one has completely ported Jelly Bean to the Motion.
I've installed the port listed above a few times and have watched it get better and better, but keep switching back, because of one thing or another. Other people are not having the problem, but I keep being un-successful in getting the GPS to work. There are volume problems or echo problems (When they fix one it causes the other and they haven't pieced together a solution for both.) So because it's too soft and because I can't get the GPS working I always flash back to ICS.
The Motion has some unique problems that have prevented it from getting a lot of developer support.
1. It's screen resolution is small and weird.
2. It's a very in-expensive phone, most developers want the biggest and the best.
3. It's on MetroPCS... most developers go with a more mainstream phone service.
4. It's now getting to be an older phone with regards to the forward movement of technology.
Because of this Cyanomod will never support it officially. The only developers who are working on it have multiple projects going and the LG Motion is not their main phone... they just kinda play with it as a hobby project... and as bigger and better and newer phones come out... they will get bored and move on. I have a feeling we will never really get a fully fleshed out version of Jelly Bean for the Motion...I'm sorry.
The Google edition of this phone looks incredible, although its really expensive. I don't know if its even worth it, when ROMs like AOKP are available. I have a few issues with the idea of buying it or the desire to do so.
When the Google edition comes out, will the device even be able to use the hardware like the IR blaster? Also, will users on the ATT and other models be able to flash the ROM/firmware anyway?
What do you guys think? Are there any other advantages to the Google edition?
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No IR support. Rumor has it for 4.3 release supposedly. If you don't have the Google edition you can't install it on none google versions and you won't get updates from Google. However I am sure there will be Dev who port it for the telco vendor versions to work.
That's so strange that they'd even consider selling hardware with components that aren't supported. So besides stock jelly bean (which doesn't even have the features of AOKP), the Google version has almost no advantages? And for more than three times the price? I saw earlier that they're on pre-order on eBay for $850. What's the point? I must be missing something.
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This is the point, the Google Edition devices are meant to be developer friendly and showcase stock vanilla android...the IR blaster is something thats proprietary hence no AOSP code is available for it (stock android), drivers/source needs to be released for those components... the Google Edition devices are bootloader unlockeable unlike the ATT version (ours uses a bypass exploit to install custom things which by all accounts has been patched in a future OTA due to be released)....also they come factory sim unlocked...they will get Google Updates first before carrier branded devices, think of them as Nexuses without the Nexus name. I won't be getting a GE S4 as I have a Nexus and will wait for the next Nexus, however I'm excited to see the GE released as it means AOSP code will drop, this will help devs tremendously in fixing issues such as bluetooth.
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That's so strange that they'd even consider selling hardware with components that aren't supported. So besides stock jelly bean (which doesn't even have the features of AOKP), the Google version has almost no advantages? And for more than three times the price? I saw earlier that they're on pre-order on eBay for $850. What's the point? I must be missing something.
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It's less about the phone itself.
1. Having a stock rom version appeals to many advanced users, such as us on XDA. It has the stock experience, without the nexus line limitations, such as the SD card. It makes their die hard fans happy and most of us are very enthusiastic about it.
2. It is a key strategic move by Google. By allowing other manufacturers to sell "stock" versions on the play store, Google can move ahead and sell Motorola phones from the store without appearing to be biased to their own hardware. They're telling consumers they have options.
Unlike Apple this is what I like about Google. Give me options and let me decide which I want.
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It's less about the phone itself.
1. Having a stock rom version appeals to many advanced users, such as us on XDA. It has the stock experience, without the nexus line limitations, such as the SD card. It makes their die hard fans happy and most of us are very enthusiastic about it.
2. It is a key strategic move by Google. By allowing other manufacturers to sell "stock" versions on the play store, Google can move ahead and sell Motorola phones from the store without appearing to be biased to their own hardware. They're telling consumers they have options.
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Idk about you guys but I find this amazing! I have fallen in love with the ir blaster I wish they would have it in the Google s4
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Rumor is Android 4.3 will have native support for IR blasters.
I'd rather have an RF capability though.
I'm in a bind myself of what to do with the Google Edition S4. While I know that with this available to developers, ROMs will become much more stable, but really I'm not interested in that. I want to be able to completely flash my S4 to the Google Edition essentially, the biggest thing being able to receive OTA updates from Google. I imagine just downloading an image of the GE S4 and just flash it with Odin for example, and just go.
Is that realistically something that could happen, or is that just completely out of the question? I'm trying to avoid having to drop $650 on the same phone I already have, but don't want to wait to find out I can't do what I want, then be stuck with another Nexus 4 fiasco, where it's back-ordered for 2 months
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I'm in a bind myself of what to do with the Google Edition S4. While I know that with this available to developers, ROMs will become much more stable, but really I'm not interested in that. I want to be able to completely flash my S4 to the Google Edition essentially, the biggest thing being able to receive OTA updates from Google. I imagine just downloading an image of the GE S4 and just flash it with Odin for example, and just go.
Is that realistically something that could happen, or is that just completely out of the question? I'm trying to avoid having to drop $650 on the same phone I already have, but don't want to wait to find out I can't do what I want, then be stuck with another Nexus 4 fiasco, where it's back-ordered for 2 months
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Totally in the same boat. I got this S4 last week and I'm already hearing that I'd have to drop $650US for the GE
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Personally I would not drop 650 on a phone you already have. You want the Google experience install CM10.1. You want touchwiz and IR you can go back to Samsung ROM. Plus I am sure DEVs will have the image ported to our phones. Its a waste of money imo. I would rather save that money for the new nexus or x phone.
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How does google know exactly which devices are "Nexus" devices? Do they send the updates out to a list based on known Nexus/GE IMEIs, or is there something in the ROM that sends a beacon to them asking for the udpates, or?
I'm really hoping I can just flash the GE ROM to my S4 and slip into the update loop like the rest of the Nexus/GE owners.
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How does google know exactly which devices are "Nexus" devices? Do they send the updates out to a list based on known Nexus/GE IMEIs, or is there something in the ROM that sends a beacon to them asking for the udpates, or?
I'm really hoping I can just flash the GE ROM to my S4 and slip into the update loop like the rest of the Nexus/GE owners.
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I can't speculate on how the phone actually gets the ROM update and/or how the almighty Google gods know which device it is, but I do know that when people got their LG Optimus G's running the Nexus 4 software, they were able to pull down OTAs from Google directly.
How many times can the same conversation be had on this site?
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I can't speculate on how the phone actually gets the ROM update and/or how the almighty Google gods know which device it is, but I do know that when people got their LG Optimus G's running the Nexus 4 software, they were able to pull down OTAs from Google directly.
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Well that sounds pretty awesome, definitely gives us hope then!
I don't know why anyone is surprised about price and features. Samsung is not going to alienate the carriers that sell 99% of their phones.
So isn't it supposed to be available today? Any know where and how to purchase one
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How many times can the same conversation be had on this site?
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Lol - over and over until the release the damn thing and we know for sure ...
Thursday isn't it ?
G. :angel:
Seriuosly when is this going to be released? I thought it was today too. I was trying to order it last night at midnight
Yes I was excited of purchasing it today but its on the 26th that it will go on sale.. :banghead: oh well two more days
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