This thing is such a beast on web surfing I assumed YouTube would scream as well but I seem to be experienccng significant buffering issues, especiially on HD video.
Anyone else seeing this and can recommend a solution?
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So no feedback on this? Seems like I am having major buffering issues. The web screams on this. What gives.
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Cannot say I have had any issues.
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I had severe buffering issues with my Infinity that I returned and when I was playing with the Note at BB it was taking forever to buffer on YouTube but I chalked that up to BB poor/overloaded WiFi. Hoping when my 32g Note arrives this week it buffers better on my home WiFi. I'll update as soon as my Note arrives.
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So no feedback on this? Seems like I am having major buffering issues. The web screams on this. What gives.
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I can confirm a similar experience... great web speed but not great youtube. Only tried one video and wrote it off as a bad feed until seeing your post. Will test further.
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I can confirm a similar experience... great web speed but not great youtube. Only tried one video and wrote it off as a bad feed until seeing your post. Will test further.
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The issue seems to be if you have the video set to HD. Must be a YouTube specific issue as this tablet gets excellent WiFi signal. Hmmm will have to contact Samsung about this, should have no YouTube lag at all one tablet of this quality.
Is there an app that helps cache YouTube for android like there is for PC's?
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Are you sure that you have the most recent version? I was having this issue but I updated over the weekend and it's now it seems to be gone. :fingers-crossed:
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Are you sure that you have the most recent version? I was having this issue but I updated over the weekend and it's now it seems to be gone. :fingers-crossed:
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Haven't had this issue with updated YouTube version 4.0.23. Been playing a lot of Lady Gagy videos to test since they're high quality HD with clean sound. They start within a few seconds of clicking and buffer far in advance of play with no pause over a wimpy 4864/768kbps DSL. Suggest updating the app and making sure your broadband can play on another device such as PC/laptop and if on WIFI try a different channel with less interference from other access points.
No issues whatsoever using the YouTube App or playing YouTube videos from within Opera or the stock browser.
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Haven't had this issue with updated YouTube version 4.0.23. Been playing a lot of Lady Gagy videos to test since they're high quality HD with clean sound. They start within a few seconds of clicking and buffer far in advance of play with no pause over a wimpy 4864/768kbps DSL. Suggest updating the app and making sure your broadband can play on another device such as PC/laptop and if on WIFI try a different channel with less interference from other access points.
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You should check out the VEVO app. Video quality mucc better ands lots of GaGa.
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Horrible buffering on my EVO 4g LTE
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The problem with lag-diagnosis always is to exactly find out WHERE in the chain of data transmission ther might be a lag:
An example:
I open the browser, search and find an American site (which might be complex, buggy, not coded minimalisticly) hosted on an American server and want to load it:
I call the site
Now if the server is very busy my request will be delayed (waiting circle), then the data packets are transferred from host server to regional node then to a central node, then to the undersea data cable to the European central node, then to a local node and then to me home to my router. In alot of cases the data transferral is even much more complex and inclides many more transferral steps.
Now the data packets are transmitted from the router via WiFi to my SGN10.1:
Also here a lot of obstacles could reduce the transferral rate of the data packets and cause a lagginess: distance, how many WiFi devices are connected to the router and are they active or not (e.g. in case my 3 other Galaxy devices and notebook download updates from the Play-store data transferral rate drops to almost zero) or is there another device producing electromagnetic disturbances so that data packets are distorted and have to be reloaded.
Only if all data packets are transferred at maximum speed and arrive undistorted and You find a lag THEN You can speak of a device's lagginess and even THEN You might not know if the lag is not produced by the device itself but some other background apps or apps that secretely send infos or download/upload bloat thus blocking Your processor or surfing.
On 3G/HSP/LTE the issue could be even worse if the PROVIDER decides that everytime there is an interruption in the data transferral the data connection is interrupted to give other participants logged to the cell/radio mast more bandwidth. And THIS differs a lot between different providers HOW they handle the requests for bandwidth. (If You are on 3G You can see this on the graph for the battery in settings how the reception is and this differs a lot even if You don´t move the device from the spot)
You can blame a device to be laggy only when data stored in the internal memory and are scrolled through show lagginess.
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Not sure if this is the best place to post this, but it seemed to be the most appropriate... AFAIK Netflix streaming has never worked on a broadband connection on the island because they're identified as foreign or outside of the continental US or whatever. However, it seems that for Netflix's purpose, a Sprint connection from PR still looks like any other connection from within the US; probably because of the way it's routed. It's kinda odd considering other services like Google Voice can still make the distinction, but I'm sure there's dozens of way to do this filtering (for instance, Tivo also thinks my DVR is in the US if I tether it to my phone).
So what good is any of this knowledge? Well, the Netflix app will stream to your phone just fine over 3G; even tho it'll flash a region warning on wifi. I hear your now tho, what's the point of that? 3G streaming looks pretty bad, specially in areas with low signal where you're lucky to get 400 kbps...
Well, I'm not done, otherwise this post would be rather worthless wouldn't it? Open that oh-so-easily fooled Netflix app (seriously, it took them this long to release an app that merely discriminates amongst phones by build.prop?), start streaming over 3G, turn on Wifi, enjoy the improved quality as the phone starts to stream over Wifi without any location checks. That's all there is to it! I was able to pause and resume after switching to Wifi with no issues. I imagine it might get fixed eventually, or not, but for now it works.
I haven't tested to see if their site is just as easily fooled by a computer tethered to my phone, but since you can't handoff between different connections there quite as smoothly I guess it's kinda moot... I haven't been a Netflix subscriber for very long, just started testing it out. Frankly I'm kinda disappointed in their online catalog of movies and shows, over half the stuff I first searched for wasn't available (Mad Men, How I Met Your Mother, several movies, etc.).
Netflix on my Tivo also works if I tether it to my phone but that's a hassle (on the Tivo's end) and again, Sprint 3G really isn't fast enough for smooth playback, at least where I live (near Buchanan base). Can't wait until 4G is deployed here...
BTW Has anyone tested how Netflix app playback looks on a TV if you output it over HDMI with Full HDMI? I'll probably give it a shot later. Altho I might just drop Netflix and go back to renting off Redbox to be honest.
Workaround for Netflix block
I live in the USVI and we too are blocked from using Netflix. I posted a few articles on my blog though that explains how I've worked around this block:
How to use Netflix streaming, Amazon Instant Video and MP3 from outside the US
Installing DD-WRT mega Build on a Linksys E3000 Router to Run with HMA Pro! VPN Services
I hope these help! I've been happily streaming for quite a while now, it's great.
Sean
i would love using hdmi out with netflix!
Well I am from the south of the island and I can tell you with the latest release of it that pretty much shut down the Wifi idea tried it and did not stream at all but for those on the island I recommend an app called sensorly you can get it on the regular market it shows you where you get your signal on a map like Google maps it gives you all the signal ranges and ladies and gents they just recently started to test 4G in two areas only San Juan and ponce and to tell you that the app worked flawlessly is an understatement cause i drove from arroyo to ponce and once I reached the sprint store there I was able to get 4G when I walked into the store asked one of the CS reps and he said they are in the testing faze and once that is done they will do a roll-out with commercials and advertisements so good news for all us island folk so with netflix to be continued...
The netflix app hasn't been updated since I posted this, it should still work... You have to switch from 3G to Wifi once you're already streaming something.
I'm currently on 3.1 and facing major issues with YouTube. While the playback is smooth, the buffering of the video is pretty awful. I'm sure its not any issue with my router, as the same video streams pretty fast on my Captivate and laptop. Anyone else facing the same issue? Thanks in advance.
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I'm currently on 3.1 and facing major issues with YouTube. While the playback is smooth, the buffering of the video is pretty awful. I'm sure its not any issue with my router, as the same video streams pretty fast on my Captivate and laptop. Anyone else facing the same issue? Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE
I find buffering during playback almost never works. If you navigate to the homescreen and then back to the youtube app playback will resume.
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Yes, I have this problem also. No matter what I play on Youtube using the built in app, it plays fine, but stops to buffer constantly. I have a perfectly good connection and can play these videos on other machines. In fact, they played without all the buffering on the 3.01 software. Even regular def videos have the problem.
I just watched about 8 videos using the YouTube app. I set all videos to play in HD within my settings and I don't have any buffering issues. Right now I'm watching a 12 minute video of Battlefield 3, which had to buffer on my iPad, and so far no buffering what so ever
I'm loving the TF more and more!
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I just watched about 8 videos using the YouTube app. I set all videos to play in HD within my settings and I don't have any buffering issues. Right now I'm watching a 12 minute video of Battlefield 3, which had to buffer on my iPad, and so far no buffering what so ever
I'm loving the TF more and more!
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Its funny That you say this because I have been trying to watch that same 12 minute video for an hour and ended up having t come here t try and find out how t fix the'biffering issue. Can anyone comment?
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Its funny That you say this because I have been trying to watch that same 12 minute video for an hour and ended up having t come here t try and find out how t fix the'biffering issue. Can anyone comment?
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The video is freaking sick!!! Have you rebooted it? I keep it off while not in use, so I just turn it on when needed. Also, are you close to your router? I'm a few feet away from mine.
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The video is freaking sick!!! Have you rebooted it? I keep it off while not in use, so I just turn it on when needed. Also, are you close to your router? I'm a few feet away from mine.
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It doesn't matter. The same video plays smoothly on the stock browser, without buffering issues. I'm feel its something to do with the Youtube app
I have this issue with only true 720p or 1080i videos. Remember every video says HD even if its not.
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I have this issue with only true 720p or 1080i videos. Remember every video says HD even if its not.
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I had the issue in the app with 360p videos also.
I know this is going to seem ridiculous, but try something as an experiment. Change your dns server on the device to googledns or open dns. Lt us know if that impacts anything. I have a suspicion about the way dns routing may happen via certain isp's. This is something that has been going on with iOS devices regularly and I'm curious to see if it carries across platforms.
Sorry I can't be more help, but for the limited time it takes, can't hurt to try!
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I know this is going to seem ridiculous, but try something as an experiment. Change your dns server on the device to googledns or open dns. Lt us know if that impacts anything. I have a suspicion about the way dns routing may happen via certain isp's. This is something that has been going on with iOS devices regularly and I'm curious to see if it carries across platforms.
Sorry I can't be more help, but for the limited time it takes, can't hurt to try!
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Care showing me how to change dns? Having an issue doing so
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Care showing me how to change dns? Having an issue doing so
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Sorry, I don't have my android device yet :/ you can try changing it on the router, that also fixed iOS devices.
8.8.4.4 and 8.8.8.8 are google's, 4.4 seems anecdotally quicker. http://code.google.com/speed/public-dns/docs/performance.html
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The video is freaking sick!!! Have you rebooted it? I keep it off while not in use, so I just turn it on when needed. Also, are you close to your router? I'm a few feet away from mine.
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I'm in the same room as my router and it does it under almost all circumstances. Funny thing is that sometimes it will load just fine. I haven't experimented much with the browser YouTube though.
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Sorry, I don't have my android device yet :/ you can try changing it on the router, that also fixed iOS devices.
8.8.4.4 and 8.8.8.8 are google's, 4.4 seems anecdotally quicker. http://code.google.com/speed/public-dns/docs/performance.html
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My DNS is the same as my routers ip address. Can anyone change this to confirm its working?
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Just did another random test with the YouTube app and that 12 minute video buffered just fine. I even fast forwarded and rewinded to different parts and it picked up and buffered just fine. I don't know what the deal is.
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My DNS is the same as my routers ip address. Can anyone change this to confirm its working?
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I don't even find an option in the TF to move to OpenDNS. My Youtube app still has pathetic buffering. I'm trying to watch a 50 min video on Youtube and it buffers always. Pretty frustrating
In my case, the problem appears to be something to do with my route to Youtube or the particular server that I'm using there. It bothers my desktop too. I can play high def videos from Vimeo and other sources full screen on the TF, so I assume that youtube would work fine if I could get a good connection. I've always used openDNS, so that's not it. I can't even play 240p videos on Youtube any more.
Here is an interesting thread.
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/youtube/thread?tid=60d5dd88d1570daf&hl=en&start=40
and here is an official youtube video test page.
http://www.youtube.com/my_speed
I don't see an option to change it on the tf.
Log into your router and configure those two as your dns server....I'd bet your other devices will be thankful too.
If not you can always delete them!
Ok I don't seem to be having any buffering issues whatsoever anymore. The only thing I have noticed is that with HD videos you have to pause the videos before fast forwarding or rewinding if you want it to properly buffer. Other than that everything is working great!
I started noticing this buffering issue yesterday while trying to watch a HD clip.
It would do it every 10 seconds... so I started to do some searching.
Initially I suspected Android until I found this link.
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/youtube/thread?tid=4cd2cff3bad5f19d&hl=en
Then I realised PCs, ipads etc are also affected.
The strange thing is though that flash imbedded video works fine.
Now my question is, would Youtube which is owned by google be making it difficult for other companies that dont have flash? and did the Facebook app dissappear because Google+ started?
hmmm I wonder...
Hi guys,
I guess we all spent quite I time now playing with our Surfaces, so I wonder what the things are that bother you the most right now?
For me personally it comes down to two main things: Performance and a real video player
Performancewise I think the Surface has really good hardware, but either WinRT or the App optimization clearly lacks so far, as there are quite a few times when I'm thinking: Come on, that's all you got?! And I'm not even thinking UI performance or Desktop performance, as I'm quite happy with that, Metro's probably not iOS fluent, but it's definitely fluent enough, and also the occasional little lag when opening Apps is fine for me.
But the in-App performance is simply too bad. No matter if it's games (I guess I didn't find a single game with at least modest graphics which was really fluent) or the video player (come on, not being able to play a single SD .avi fluently?!).
And that already brings me to my secong point: Video Player. To put it quite simple, either Microsoft will come up with a better looking, better performing player that supports all the usual types of files (no .mkv?!), or a third party player will do the job. Or I'm going to send it back, as that's simply a no go for a tab.
In then meantime I'm halfway between amazed and frustrated what the Surface can and can't do
I could do with a video player that will play dvd ts format as I have loads on my nas, if anyone knows one already would be good to know i loved media centre would be great to get something like that.
I found pinball being open even in background creates a lag issue so i always have to shut it down fully, i wander if other apps are also having this effect? Could explain lag issues as once closed mine is back to full no lag speed. It has same effect if its only thing open or there is a load.
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I could do with a video player that will play dvd ts format as I have loads on my nas, if anyone knows one already would be good to know i loved media centre would be great to get something like that.
I found pinball being open even in background creates a lag issue so i always have to shut it down fully, i wander if other apps are also having this effect? Could explain lag issues as once closed mine is back to full no lag speed. It has same effect if its only thing open or there is a load.
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Thats the difference between RAM management in Windows compared to Android
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Hi guys,
I guess we all spent quite I time now playing with our Surfaces, so I wonder what the things are that bother you the most right now?
For me personally it comes down to two main things: Performance and a real video player
Performancewise I think the Surface has really good hardware, but either WinRT or the App optimization clearly lacks so far, as there are quite a few times when I'm thinking: Come on, that's all you got?! And I'm not even thinking UI performance or Desktop performance, as I'm quite happy with that, Metro's probably not iOS fluent, but it's definitely fluent enough, and also the occasional little lag when opening Apps is fine for me.
But the in-App performance is simply too bad. No matter if it's games (I guess I didn't find a single game with at least modest graphics which was really fluent) or the video player (come on, not being able to play a single SD .avi fluently?!).
And that already brings me to my secong point: Video Player. To put it quite simple, either Microsoft will come up with a better looking, better performing player that supports all the usual types of files (no .mkv?!), or a third party player will do the job. Or I'm going to send it back, as that's simply a no go for a tab.
In then meantime I'm halfway between amazed and frustrated what the Surface can and can't do
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I am able to play 720p xvid/avi ripped from bluray with no problem. What type of avi are you playing?
Here is my list of complaints:
- No LTE
- Lack of apps
- Random hang ups or general app slowness and/or crashing (not a major problem, and will hopefully be resolved through OS and app updates)
- My iPad now is boring to use
I try to play xvid avis which are way more fluent on my notebook... But also other avis are more fluent on the notebook...
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My negatives:
Very low volume
Quite heavy
No GPS
Occasionally touch pin keyboard does not show on wake up despite folded back. Need to use touch cover.
Occasional brief lags
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My negatives:
Very low volume
Quite heavy
Occasional brief lags
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There is a fix for the low volume. Check the tips and tricks thread.
I like the weight, right now the only downside I have is lack of VPN connectivity.
I'd like to see general performance enhancements but I believe those will come.
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There is a fix for the low volume. Check the tips and tricks thread.
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I know. I am the one who started the tips thread ? Still no loud enough though.
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My negatives:
Very low volume
Quite heavy
No GPS
Occasionally touch pin keyboard does not show on wake up despite folded back. Need to use touch cover.
Occasional brief lags
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I think it's heavy as well...1/4 lb shaved off would be great, but it is the same weight as an iPad for those wondering.
My main complaint is the lack of POP3 email capability. I bought it mainly for work and my work email is a POP3, so this is a thing that will make me return it, even that I really love it far.
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My main complaint is the lack of POP3 email capability. I bought it mainly for work and my work email is a POP3, so this is a thing that will make me return it, even that I really love it far.
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While somewhat convoluted, a work around is to send your work email to something like gmail which does support POP3, then link your gmail to the e-mail app on the surface.
To the OP, no tablet that I'm aware of supports MKV playback with first party video players. That is something the app store will take care of in time.
Anyways, no real complaints on my end, just some minor issues like the trackpad being a bit twitchy for my taste. Obviously the app store is a weak point, but that will get better with time and I bought the Surface understanding that.
Xda forum makes my Surface unresponsive if I'm using IE MetroStyle. If I switch to the full version everything works more or less fine.
thanks for posting these! I'm considering buying a surface and need to know these things.
I found in another thread that adding ad blockers lists in the Settings of IE fixes my performance issues when I'm using XDA, I tested and it works.
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To the OP, no tablet that I'm aware of supports MKV playback with first party video players. That is something the app store will take care of in time.
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O/T but the Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 does support MKV playback on the stock video player.
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Dave
I don't know if this is also a wnrt app but a video app that might help in the app store is called multimedia8 give that a try they market it as being a multimedia playing app
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I don't know if this is also a wnrt app but a video app that might help in the app store is called multimedia8 give that a try they market it as being a multimedia playing app
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It is a Windows RT app (which is different from a WinRT app- all apps are WinRT apps), however it still only plays the same files that the built-in player can. It's just a wrapper for that.
One of the primary reasons for getting a Surface for me was consuming video content. So far;
- Sky Go in the UK website uses Silverlight and there's no Silverlight support
- UK Football League websites 'Player' video services use Flash and they're not on Microsoft's whitelist (thank the lord for XDA Devs workaround for that one)
- No support for Windows 7 Media Center .wtv Recorded TV files, of which I have tons
Add on top of this buggy built in apps like People, Music & Video. There's enough about Surface that I still love it, and I know apps and updates will eventually resolve these issues but it's frustrating none the less.
My Surface creaks. Around the bezel at various spots near the edge of the tablet, if I press the bezel it goes in slightly as if there is a gap behind it or as if it hasn't been glued down properly. I tried this all around the tablet. I tried this on my friend's Surface last night but her screen is fine. So I am returning my Surface ? Does your creak?
I am missing a good forum to discuss issues people are having with their surface devices. I am totally happy with mine, but still misisng sume things. Where can I have useful discussions about this ?
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Sorry for being to quick, I wanted to add some of my probs:
Pop 3 account. I already have read a lot of disussions on this and found some tips, but my provider only supports POP3
Synching my Windows Phon 7.5 (simply not working)
Locking the device when I close the lid, meaning if I close the cover (touch or type) I want the device to be locked
Support for older micro SD Cards. I cant my SD cards to work only the new SDHCX cards work
Does anyone know a good method to search the AppStore ? I realized that I am getting different results if I do a "general" search in the store or If I look for an app in the specific section. This is getting me mad.
When will MSFT release the final version of its Office 2013 products to the Surface users ? I already have it on my PC but the Surface still has a preview of Office 2013
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I searched everywhere, but couldn't find answer to my problem. Maybe you can help me.
I have N8000 with JB 4.1.2 (N8000XXCMA2) with Allshare Play app 1.0 (201302250623). I love Allshare, because I can play my HD mkv files with subtitles without any problems. That is, I could play. Now every time I try to open a file from my PCs (i have two laptops, and it's the same) with "mobile optimization" unchecked I got "sorry this video cannot be played" message. What's bizarre, I can play files with "mobile optimization" on, but the quality is really crappy, subs do not work, and I can't forward or reverse it (it plays like live stream). What's more bizarre, I can play files normally with BubbleUPnP, using default player (but it's choppy, and doesn't show all files, so it's not as reliable as Allshare Play).
I really don't know why it stopped working. I believe it might have something to do with frequent updates of the app, or maybe with JB update. Don't know. Any ideas? Thanks in advance.
I have found that if your video has a data rate of higher than 3800 kbps it will most likely not stream.
I think it all depends on the speed of your router so yours may not be the same as mine.
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kkretch said:
I have found that if your video has a data rate of higher than 3800 kbps it will most likely not stream.
I think it all depends on the speed of your router so yours may not be the same as mine.
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Like I said before, it had been working since day one, and then stopped, so the bandwidth or date rate is not the issue here.
Hi!
I have a problem that drives me mad: I have a m3u8 playlist with IPTV channels. I can watch TV on all of my mobile and home devices with this playlist - TV, PC, Mac, iPhone. But! If I play this playlist on my Galaxy Note 20 Ultra - video quality automatically switches (I don't know if I can call it 'adapt') to low bitrate: 5000 kbps with Wi-Fi and 500 kbps instead after turning Wi-Fi off.
4G quality is very stable and fast but it switches bitrate to low all the time! It's more weird because if I share this LTE connection from another device and start playing playlist with Wi-Fi connected - it doesn't degrade bitrate!
For the record:
- playlist plays fine without degrade with the same SIM card on iPhone 11 Pro Max.
- playlist plays fine without degrade with the same SIM card on Samsung Note 10+.
- playlist plays fine without degrade with the same SIM card on Samsung S8.
- playlist plays fine without degrade with the same SIM card on Samsung S8+.
But:
- playlist plays WITH degraded bitrate on Samsung Tab S7.
What are those new settings or parameters for Android Samsung applied that makes IPTV to degrade bitrate?
Thanks in advance.
A few things I can think of that may cause this.
What video player are you using? / Have you tried a different player?
Is video enhancer on in settings?
Does your carrier throttle video ect to 480? (Most do.) But won't always throttle Hotspot data.
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A few things I can think of that may cause this.
What video player are you using? / Have you tried a different player?
Is video enhancer on in settings?
Does your carrier throttle video ect to 480? (Most do.) But won't always throttle Hotspot data.
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Hi! Thank you for your reply.
1. OttPlayer / VLC - result is the same
2. Yes but I don't think it may be a reason (on Galaxy Note 10+ and S8/S8+ it's enabled too)
3. I've called my carrier's technical support but they said that my tariff doesn't throttle anything. Besides I've forgot to mention that problem persists on two different carriers (I've tried two different SIM cards).
So the problem is in Note 20 Ultra/ Tab S7 for sure. But what is the reason for trouble I can't get.
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Hi! Thank you for your reply.
1. OttPlayer / VLC - result is the same
2. Yes but I don't think it may be a reason (on Galaxy Note 10+ and S8/S8+ it's enabled too)
3. I've called my carrier's technical support but they said that my tariff doesn't throttle anything. Besides I've forgot to mention that problem persists on two different carriers (I've tried two different SIM cards).
So the problem is in Note 20 Ultra/ Tab S7 for sure. But what is the reason for trouble I can't get.
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Yes that is quite puzzling. I know that with most streaming apps. Like netflix, Youtube, disney+ the device chooses what quality of stream ti choose from while the host / server is usually streaming or atleast rendering multiple streams for it at different bitrates. (Basically this is agreeing that the device is just choosing a lower bitrate thinking there may be a network issue with the stream or speed issue.)
I haven't used VLC in a long while, but is there a way to force highest quality like in youtube / netflix? Curious if you can force it if it will play and buffer throughout?
Also what software version is your phone running currently? Last 4 and security update.
MaddKorben said:
Hi!
I have a problem that drives me mad: I have a m3u8 playlist with IPTV channels. I can watch TV on all of my mobile and home devices with this playlist - TV, PC, Mac, iPhone. But! If I play this playlist on my Galaxy Note 20 Ultra - video quality automatically switches (I don't know if I can call it 'adapt') to low bitrate: 5000 kbps with Wi-Fi and 500 kbps instead after turning Wi-Fi off.
4G quality is very stable and fast but it switches bitrate to low all the time! It's more weird because if I share this LTE connection from another device and start playing playlist with Wi-Fi connected - it doesn't degrade bitrate!
For the record:
- playlist plays fine without degrade with the same SIM card on iPhone 11 Pro Max.
- playlist plays fine without degrade with the same SIM card on Samsung Note 10+.
- playlist plays fine without degrade with the same SIM card on Samsung S8.
- playlist plays fine without degrade with the same SIM card on Samsung S8+.
But:
- playlist plays WITH degraded bitrate on Samsung Tab S7.
What are those new settings or parameters for Android Samsung applied that makes IPTV to degrade bitrate?
Thanks in advance.
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That's an interesting problem that only shows up on Samsung's new devices.
I have many questions though, like, how did you set up your devices, as new or from backup?
Does this only happen with IPTV or it also happens with other streaming apps?
Running any special dns or vpns?
Is data saver on?
Have you tried reseting network settings yet?
Have you tried disabling com.qualcomm.embms?
I was going to suggest checking data saver also.
Maybe even turn off optimization on battery usage for the app in use (or all together for testing). I have heard the optimizer loves to cause throttling issues for streams speed and everything else in between.
lennie said:
That's an interesting problem that only shows up on Samsung's new devices.
I have many questions though, like, how did you set up your devices, as new or from backup?
Does this only happen with IPTV or it also happens with other streaming apps?
Running any special dns or vpns?
Is data saver on?
Have you tried reseting network settings yet?
Have you tried disabling com.qualcomm.embms?
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how did you set up your devices, as new or from backup?
As new.
Does this only happen with IPTV or it also happens with other streaming apps
Only with IPTV.
Running any special dns or vpns?
Nope. I'd like to remind that smartphones with the same SIM card and same settings but not Note 20 Ultra or Tab S7 show stream smoothly without degrading bitrate.
Have you tried reseting network settings yet?
Nope. What network settings do you mean?
Have you tried disabling com.qualcomm.embms
Nope. My devices built with Exynos onboard.
MaddKorben said:
how did you set up your devices, as new or from backup?
As new.
Does this only happen with IPTV or it also happens with other streaming apps
Only with IPTV.
Running any special dns or vpns?
Nope. I'd like to remind that smartphones with the same SIM card and same settings but not Note 20 Ultra or Tab S7 show stream smoothly without degrading bitrate.
Have you tried reseting network settings yet?
Nope. What network settings do you mean?
Have you tried disabling com.qualcomm.embms
Nope. My devices built with Exynos onboard.
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To reset network settings : it will revert all network changes to default
Settings»general management» reset» reset network settings
After reset network settings restart your phone see it improves.
Also do you mind posting a link to the IPTV Playlist so I can check it out on my devices too. You can post it here or Direct message
lennie said:
To reset network settings : it will revert all network changes to default
Settings»general management» reset» reset network settings
After reset network settings restart your phone see it improves.
Also do you mind posting a link to the IPTV Playlist so I can check it out on my devices too. You can post it here or Direct message
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Hi!
I've sent you private message with one of channels that degrades bitrate. Check it please.
Resetting network settings didn't make difference.
SrgWallopy said:
I was going to suggest checking data saver also.
Maybe even turn off optimization on battery usage for the app in use (or all together for testing). I have heard the optimizer loves to cause throttling issues for streams speed and everything else in between.
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Power mode I'm using is "Optimized".
SrgWallopy said:
Also what software version is your phone running currently? Last 4 and security update.
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ATJ1, 1st of October security patch.
MaddKorben said:
Power mode I'm using is "Optimized".
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I was thinking of removing the app from the optimize list so it can use full resources and not get throttled by the system.
Since the note 20 series has 'smart ai usage and optimization' it may be auto throttling for battery usage.
MaddKorben said:
ATJ1, 1st of October security patch.
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I've tried a number of different m3u8 streams (direct links) and find that VLC buffers A LOT with bit rate jumping all over the place 161 to 6200. A couple other players from the play store seems to play the stream just fine, not sure what's up with VLC.
lennie said:
I've tried a number of different m3u8 streams (direct links) and find that VLC buffers A LOT with bit rate jumping all over the place 161 to 6200. A couple other players from the play store seems to play the stream just fine, not sure what's up with VLC.
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What players did u try?
Can someone confirm (or not)this?? Still on note 9 here and was considering upgrading but this would make me waiting more.
And OP : can you try say iptv extreme to check your streams quality ? VLC not the best for iptv (not for me at least).
Envoyé de mon SM-N960F en utilisant Tapatalk
MaddKorben said:
What players did u try?
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I can't even remember all the ones I've tried but I've found that IPTV works great. I'll upload screenshots below.
I've tried the playlist you've PM'd me and it works just fine in IPTV. I find IPTV to be more comfortable to use and seems to do 60fps video stream I'm not too sure but it does seem like it. It shows the full playlist and is fast to load them (well most of them). It does buffer on some of the streams like sk* au streams and f*x streams but not so bad as when using VLC.
Just FYI I have a snapdragon device so we're sort of fundamentally using different devices so not sure if that has anything to do with it.
Caius_Marius said:
Can someone confirm (or not)this?? Still on note 9 here and was considering upgrading but this would make me waiting more.
And OP : can you try say iptv extreme to check your streams quality ? VLC not the best for iptv (not for me at least).
Envoyé de mon SM-N960F en utilisant Tapatalk
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Yeah iptv extreme does work. Quality is good too but just like in IPTV app some streams do buffer.
lennie said:
I can't even remember all the ones I've tried but I've found that IPTV works great. I'll upload screenshots below.
I've tried the playlist you've PM'd me and it works just fine in IPTV. I find IPTV to be more comfortable to use and seems to do 60fps video stream I'm not too sure but it does seem like it. It shows the full playlist and is fast to load them (well most of them). It does buffer on some of the streams like sk* au streams and f*x streams but not so bad as when using VLC.
Just FYI I have a snapdragon device so we're sort of fundamentally using different devices so not sure if that has anything to do with it.
Yeah iptv extreme does work. Quality is good too but just like in IPTV app some streams do buffer.
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I've tried IPTV Extreme and it does the same as other players so we can assume that the reason is not Stream or Player - it's device.
By the way I've uploaded screen rec to show what I meant: https://youtu.be/qwIN8LmFce4
OMG guys... I'm really confused how this could happen but I've found solution: it was about Samsung MAX app which provides free VPN! The point is: it has several tabs including Wi-Fi and Mobile connection settings. And default mobile option "Data saving mode" was turned on! That's why it was degrading bitrate! Unfortunately it didn't show any badges or window telling me that now I have data saving mode on or something.
So I'm really sorry and thank you for trying to help. It was my fault.