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Hey all,
So basically the wifi/Bluetooth hardware has crapped out on this phone and since there's no Atrix 4g anymore they're sending me an Atrix 2 MB865 tomorrow.
Having tried a lot of different ROMs on the 4g my favorite by far is the NEUTRINO ROM ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1398819 ).
I was curious if anyone had also made the switch from the 4g to the 2 and if they can reccomend a comparable ROM. I'll probably have to try what's available and find out for myself, but any guidance is appreciated!
Thanks.
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RebelRom or VictoryRom easy to install debloated, really responsive.
Supercharged V5, excellent Rom, bit more to install. Probably the best as well.
I use VictoryRom because I don't have the patience to install Supercharged.
Waiting for the release of RebelRom stable.
Well I am sure none of this helped!
Really you cannot go wrong with any of them, it's a matter of taste.
ATRIX 2 / Victory Rom
I would say VictoryRom is closest to that. Atrix 4G's bootloader is unlocked right? Atrix 2 is not. So there are workarounds that make installing ROMs a different process.
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Use victory Rom for simplicity and closest to stock
Rebel Rom for a bit tweaked and sony-like launcher
Supercharged Rom for heavy tweaking and slight theming
Blaze Rom for both heavy tweaking and heavy theming
But the rom you wanted is based off cyanogen mod, our bootloader is locked therefore our customizations are limited and cyanogen mod isn't available for the atrix 2 yet.
Thanks for the replies. It is going to be hard not having cyanogenmod...to the point where I may sell the phone and opt for an SGS II for the time being which I hate to say because I love my Atrix .
Are there still folks working on unlocking the bootloader? I read the project cheesecake thread but it seems it's been going on forever with no real progress.
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Some folks are working on CM7 for the Atrix 2 (using the 2nd init method iirc).
Last I heard it was close to testing...
kisnerct said:
Thanks for the replies. It is going to be hard not having cyanogenmod...to the point where I may sell the phone and opt for an SGS II for the time being which I hate to say because I love my Atrix .
Are there still folks working on unlocking the bootloader? I read the project cheesecake thread but it seems it's been going on forever with no real progress.
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People (mainly Jim) are working on a method to get around the bootloader (bypass it) using kexec. It's maybe a couple weeks from being released. And wer're getting ICS sometime in July officially. We'll probably have a leaked version months before allowing us to get CM9 in. SO I HIGHLY RECOMMEND NOT SELLING YOUR PHONE. That is all.
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People (mainly Jim) is working on a method to get around the bootloader (bypass it) using kexec. It's maybe a couple weeks from being released. And wer're getting ICS sometime in July officially. We'll probably have a leaked version months before allowing us to get CM9 in. SO I HIGLY RECOMMEND NOT SELLING YOUR PHONE. That is all.
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Couldn't have said it better myself.
Jim is working on bypassing the bootloader and CM7 so you will probably see the two released around the same time.
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Couldn't have said it better myself.
Jim is working on bypassing the bootloader and CM7 so you will probably see the two released around the same time.
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that too
Got the phone, rooted it and not even bothering with a ROM atm, just some tweaks (remove bloatware, deblur, launcher, cpu etc).
Honestly, in just the first day I'm liking this phone a bit more than the Atrix 4g. Phone is snappy, my speedtests are insane (don't know if it's true 4g lte, but I live in Boston and I got about 10mb/s down earlier, 1.5up), and the screen/colors seem a lot better than the 4g but that could just be all in my head due to the slightly larger screen size.
So I'm not gonna jump ship and go SGS II, just going to be patient and wait for the unlocked bootloader
Ive been an htc and sprint user for ever and i finally switched to verizon and got me the samsung gs3
i know this device is new so development is just getting started.
I hope to see some awesome roms on this phone
cause right now stock i dont like it at all...
im not a fan of touchwiz at all
what is the the go to rom at the moment for this phone
I am actually running stock rom on my phone but theres a thread for CM10 here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1788443
Though I see lots of people posting issues, so I've been staying away from it, and looking into the Touchwiz ROMS more.
I think one of the biggest ways to make touchwiz feel more like stock android experience is to use Apex or Nova launcher.
XTRoRDiNAiRE said:
Ive been an htc and sprint user for ever and i finally switched to verizon and got me the samsung gs3
i know this device is new so development is just getting started.
I hope to see some awesome roms on this phone
cause right now stock i dont like it at all...
im not a fan of touchwiz at all
what is the the go to rom at the moment for this phone
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I recommend Synergy. Team Synergy has been very active in the community with suggestions and developing the rom. I believe nightlies are coming soon. Link below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1792499
Thanks for the responses
I'm confused tho I always thought that these phones get updates before other phones or is that the nexus phones?
I thought we had jelly bean already
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XTRoRDiNAiRE said:
Thanks for the responses
I'm confused tho I always thought that these phones get updates before other phones or is that the nexus phones?
I thought we had jelly bean already
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Nexus devices receive updates first, they have stock Jellybean officially released.
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I am looking into getting the GS3 sometime this week as a Bday gift to myself. Turned 31 today and I am damned tired of my iphone. I had the Moto X2 and I hated it. I was always having to reboot the phone because of lag or it just freezing up. I went to the iphone to get away from this. I had read that because the X2 was one of the 1st duel core phones, there were a lot of issues. The GS3 being a quad core, there is almost zero lag and one of thos issues.
I knw this doesn't relate to the topic and I am sorry. Just really happy to be getting the GS3 to go with my Samsung Tab 2
rbellis said:
The GS3 being a quad core, there is almost zero lag and one of thos issues.
I knw this doesn't relate to the topic and I am sorry. Just really happy to be getting the GS3 to go with my Samsung Tab 2
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The international version is the only version of GSIII with quad core. The US variants are dual core S4 (only processor that combined LTE) which benchmark quite favorably against quad core. Just clarifying because this is the Verizon model's thread were discussing this in.
Welcome to the GSIII either way! Overall, this phone has been great for me in almost every capacity.
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I just switched from iPhone, I love it. It's so fast you could just run an alternate launcher if you dislike TouchWiz, there's no performance hit. I consider rooting essential for everyday apps but beyond experimentation I have no deep desire to flash a ROM. I'd like Jelly Bean but it's the fastest ICS device I've used even with a skin on it.
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This is the first device that I'm kinda scared to root.. The process looks pretty complicated
I can't believe there is no switch to turn 4G off.. And it would be nice to be able to change the lock screen shortcuts
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XTRoRDiNAiRE said:
This is the first device that I'm kinda scared to root.. The process looks pretty complicated
I can't believe there is no switch to turn 4G off.. And it would be nice to be able to change the lock screen shortcuts
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Take this with a grain of salt but I went from the moto droid(original) to gs3. rooted the droid, rooted my s3. I found S3 so easy it was almost dummy proof.
Rooting this phone is a piece of cake. Now getting CM10 or AOKP on it without anything going wrong is another story...
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Rooting this phone is a piece of cake. Now getting CM10 or AOKP on it without anything going wrong is another story...
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I guess this is what I mean.. It looks like there are more steps to flashing roms
Will this get easier in the future? I I ask this because I've never owned a galaxy phone
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XTRoRDiNAiRE said:
I guess this is what I mean.. It looks like there are more steps to flashing roms
Will this get easier in the future? I I ask this because I've never owned a galaxy phone
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Only the Verizon version has any issues with ROMs. The locked bootloader makes custom kernels difficult; you have to bypass it using the kexec method and all this convoluted bull****.
If you want a custom ROM that's relatively easy to get, use a stock ROM like Synergy or Beans. I believe there's a holo theme for Synergy that makes the phone look like stock. Search around the Themes&Apps forum. Personally, I use Synergy 1.7, which has been pretty great.
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I can't believe there is no switch to turn 4G off.. And it would be nice to be able to change the lock screen shortcuts
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Go to Settings/Security/Lock Screen options then tap on the word "Shortcuts."
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Taehee. said:
Only the Verizon version has any issues with ROMs. The locked bootloader makes custom kernels difficult; you have to bypass it using the kexec method and all this convoluted bull****.
If you want a custom ROM that's relatively easy to get, use a stock ROM like Synergy or Beans. I believe there's a holo theme for Synergy that makes the phone look like stock. Search around the Themes&Apps forum. Personally, I use Synergy 1.7, which has been pretty great.
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Well, there is this whole IMEI bonanza going on. Flashing CM on captivate was never a problem. This one is a headache.
Nexus it is from now on.
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Well, there is this whole IMEI bonanza going on. Flashing CM on captivate was never a problem. This one is a headache.
Nexus it is from now on.
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I think I'm going to have to go to the gnex
This is where impatience gets the best of me
I can't wait around for bootloader to be un locked.. Touch wiz is hands down the lamest ui ever
I can't stand this lock screen
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XTRoRDiNAiRE said:
I think I'm going to have to go to the gnex
This is where impatience gets the best of me
I can't wait around for bootloader to be un locked.. Touch wiz is hands down the lamest ui ever
I can't stand this lock screen
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will dev's ever be able to get this bootloader unlocked? I had always thought that Samsung was good about leaving it unloacked on their phones. I am guessing that once again, this is all on Verizon!
XTRoRDiNAiRE said:
I guess this is what I mean.. It looks like there are more steps to flashing roms
Will this get easier in the future? I I ask this because I've never owned a galaxy phone
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People are working on getting the bootloader unlocked, but honestly I don't see it happening unless the FCC forces Verizon to do so. Flashing roms isn't that difficult really, but it's certainly not as easy as it was on my OG Moto Droid. Kexec is a workaround which I'm somewhat thankful for I guess. The main problem is there are currently many scary complications that can occur just from flashing any of these non TW roms right now. These problems aren't Verizon S3 specific I hear.
Personally I don't think CM/AOKP etc is worth flashing right now because of kexec and the possibility of losing IMEI/data. Yes the IMEI can be backed up or restored, but what a hassle. I flashed a CM10 nightly and then my data randomly died forever 10 minutes later. Flashing to stock/anything else was useless. Luckily reprovisioning my phone fixed the problem, but if it didn't..
I'm hoping that CM and stuff will be stable/safe within the next month or two but who knows? Verizon probably won't release JB until December or later on the S3.
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Personally I don't think CM/AOKP etc is worth flashing right now because of kexec and the possibility of losing IMEI/data. Yes the IMEI can be backed up or restored, but what a hassle. I flashed a CM10 nightly and then my data randomly died forever 10 minutes later. Flashing to stock/anything else was useless. Luckily reprovisioning my phone fixed the problem, but if it didn't..
I'm hoping that CM and stuff will be stable/safe within the next month or two but who knows? Verizon probably won't release JB until December or later on the S3.
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Agreed. There's still a bit of work that needs to happen in CM10...particularly it dropping data coverage without warning.
I've had an OptT for about a year now and well a biddy of mine is selling me a sgs...I'm not exactly new to the whole rooting and custom roms ordeal but I am new to this forum...I've seen quite a few good looking roms in the dev section (things I can't wait to try out) . I've taken a quick look thru the stickies so I hope no one feels as if I'm completely new to android considering I've done development for the G1 back in 2008-2010...anyways what all do I need in order to get the sgs4g rooted and enjoying these roms? Has anyone used gingerbreak to root there sgs4g or is everyone using one click? I haven't taken a look at gsmarena for the exact specs of the phone but I'm assuming its an armv7 because I'm coming from an armv6 device. Also the LG OptT does have a few good ICSs roms even an unofficial build of jellybean but since the device runs an armv6 processor we are missing omx forecast. Is the sgs4g missing anything? That's about all I can think of right now bit ill be scanning this forum and I hope to hear some good feedback b4 I decide to buy my buddies phone
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Use "Auto" in SuperOneClick. If it ever freezes up DO NOT TOUCH! Little Zerglings are rushing inside your phone to root it.
We also have ICS and we have an upcoming major ICS update which will fix allot of issues pertaining things such as battery life.
As it is easy to hack the SGS4G it is also easy to brick, so read instructions. If you don't understand anything, read the forums, search, find out more and if you do find out your answer maybe you'll find more things than you actually need which is good. Do not ask a question unless you are sure of it. LG is different from Samsung so don't assume that because they're both android doesn't mean they're the same thing.
And also welcome to the SGS4G forums*
I took a look at gmsarena and I saw the specs..only 512mb ram with 1gb internal storage,I figured it was alittle more than that but switching from my current phone to the sgs4g is an upgrade..I have prepaid by the way,I'm guessing theres no difference....I appreciate the quick response though....
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This phone is not exactly brickable..
Its one of the most durable phones on the market actually.
Its easy to "soft brick" but that's easily recoverable as well
Ha! This phone is as good as the newer phones. But with lower specs.
I might get the new Galaxy Nexus for the newest official Google updates. If bhundven releases the majorly updated ICS, I might keep my SGS4G for a few weeks to taste the new ICS flavor and after I get bored with it, I might sell it, either in stock form or a custom ROM.
are you sure it's the Samsung galaxy s 4g t959v?
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That's great because its easy as hell to brick the LG optimus T..I bricked 2 of em...we have basebands that improve signal ie..v10 for early froyo builds and v20 series for GB and up.one thing I've noticed is there doesn't seem to be any official cm7 builds but I haven't explored every thread in the forum either (kinda hard to do on just my phone alone). Than again I don't have a computer either...I took a look at the wiki page and its full of information that is somewhat overwhelming considering its easy as hell to root my current device back in the day rooting phones was a bit more tedious but now people have created applications for that sorta thing? Another question,I've seen the phone has the option for TV out bit I've seen quite a few remarks on ICS development threads that TV out isn't working. For my current phone,development is slow considering we are on an outdated processor (armv6)...I just wanna make sure that my new phone (sgs4g) hasn't seen any slowed progress in development because I would like to start developing again...hearing about ODIN isn't my first trail,I e just never used it....currently I'm on popdog123's oxygen gb rom,I was using an ICS rom but true development for ICS on the LG Optimus T is slowly coming to a halt and were starting to see alot more themed gingerbread roms. Were also missing omx codecs for HD video playback. Its an adreno220 so for a while we never thought we would have ICS..Panorama doesn't work for LG Optimus T on ICS roms atleaat not entirely and considering it has low memory,performance does lag..I'm an advanced user with LG but completely new to Samsung devices,LG is ****ty so I'm hoping there are no barriers with the phone im about to purchase,eventually I'd like to settle for a more advanced phone but the sgs4g is a huge update considering I've never had a phone with more than 600mhtz processor either. If all of this is in any speculation of moronic,please feel free to to close thread but I have a good feeling that I've placed it in the right forum,just trying to get some good info b4 I dish out hard earned money on a slightly better phone...any suggestions on where to begin (from others other than the user who replied first,please tell me)
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First you have to have access to a computer to root this thing.
We have unofficial cm7 & cm9 and
ATM we do not have TV out working on ics builds.
We have 2 one-click programs that work well for this device.
1- gremlin remover (the one i use which is an oden program)
2-heimdall one-click (never used it personally)
Both programs are also used to bring you back to stock rooted state if and when you soft brick your device.
So there's no way I can root the phone unless I had a computer with two programs you speak of? I was under the assumption that I could use superoneclick or gingerbreak to root
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Jrhodes85 said:
So there's no way I can root the phone unless I had a computer with two programs you speak of? I was under the assumption that I could use superoneclick or gingerbreak to root
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You still need a computer for super one click. But it is much easier to flash a custom kernel and recovery via heimdall one clicks. With SoC it takes about 10-15 minutes, with a heimdall one click its a matter of 5 minutes if you are already on Gingerbread. If not then its about 15 mintues.
That's odd, not that I don't believe you but I never used a computer to root a phone with super one click, maybe that's because I have a LG phone...I did use super one click once and gingerbreak twice
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Unfortunately thereseems to be no way out without a computer
Also you don't need both programs I mentioned.....just one or the other
Ugh.....well maybe I can attempt to use my sisters computer....who knows.....so is there an updated thread with rooting instructions because after viewing the wiki page there just seems to be so many different ways of rooting bit all of em are a year old or older...
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My prefered choice is to go to the dev thread and dl gremlin remover extract it and follow just the last instructions
TV Out does work on the Aries build.
OP: Look at the guide in the first link of my signature.
I have flashed custom roms to a crap ton of phones. I've gone from a Optimus V (same exact thing on a different network), all the way up to a galaxy s2 ( hercules) with, a G1, motorola backflip, motorola triumph, samsung vibrant, galaxy s 4g, lg g2x, samsung blaze, and an htc sensation and I'm sure I'm missing a few and I can say with %100 confidence the galaxy s 4g was the biggest pain in the A.
Going from the optimus to the 4g is a deceptively large jump. You're getting twice the processing power and a much better over all phone. The screen will make you weep with joy after using the optimus for so long.
I'd recommend using http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1223765 right off the bat and then just immediately flashing from the recovery that that installs to an ics build.
I tried other methods and got stuck in a recovery loop that drove me crazy and then I found that link and it fixed all my problems and let me flash to cm9 right from it. When you flash cm9 it will update the recovery and then you have to flash it again right after a reboot.
I tossed Google Now on there and for all major appearances it acts a lot like JB. I think google now is the single major noticeable difference between ics and jb besides the saposed speed increases.
So in short, yes get the phone if you can get it for a good price. Then install ICS right away unless battery life is a huge deal breaker. If it is then there's some great GB builds, but I personally prefer the cm9 nightlies.
On the CyanogenMod website I don't see much CM10 support for Motorola devices :/ Do you guys think there will be a CM based ROM for this phone eventually?
Cm10 is even on the X2 so I'd assume so. Hope so at least. Give it some time.
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I'm hoping that many people are still waiting for this device to pick up, and hopefully its a large amount. If the devs get on this, I'll be a real happy dude. I loved CM9 on my Droid X, so if CM makes a comeback on this, you can bet I'll flash it.
However the phone just came out, so I can't see it happening soon. Maybe after a bit.
From what I've heard at least a few known devs are picking one up. With root and SBF files already leaked, I'd say this phone is on it's way.
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I think CM10 would fly on this device. Would make it very popular since it has such an amazing battery. I would flash it on my Maxx HD in a heartbeat. Would make it my daily driver too.
Oh jeez yeah with CM the battery would last for years haha
Waiting on a stable CM10 based Rom to drop for this phone, then I'll be purchasing the Dev edition. I miss Moto devices, and have been very disappointed in the reception with my SGS3. I've dropped more calls with this phone than all my other phones combined. Especially on AOSP ROMs
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Waiting on a stable CM10 based Rom to drop for this phone, then I'll be purchasing the Dev edition. I miss Moto devices, and have been very disappointed in the reception with my SGS3. I've dropped more calls with this phone than all my other phones combined. Especially on AOSP ROMs
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So your on nightly build asop ROMs on your sgs3 and your blaming bad reception on Samsung?
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Lol. Just to be fair though you can't beat the Moto radio.
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So your on nightly build asop ROMs on your sgs3 and your blaming bad reception on Samsung?
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Yes blaming Samsung, because I still have problems with their stock TouchWhiz ROMs. I would never judge a phone by it's lack of development. I only play with AOSP ROMs in the weekends, then restore my Nandroid of TouchWhiz through the week for work. I still drop more calls with this phone then I think I should, I even had it replaced because I thought I had bad hardware.
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Yes blaming Samsung, because I still have problems with their stock TouchWhiz ROMs. I would never judge a phone by it's lack of development. I only play with AOSP ROMs in the weekends, then restore my Nandroid of TouchWhiz through the week for work. I still drop more calls with this phone then I think I should, I even had it replaced because I thought I had bad hardware.
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Samsung has never had great radio's on VZN for some reason. I remember the GNex being bad compared to my old razr and the rezound.
Lol. Just to be fair though you can't beat the Moto radio.
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True story there. Never had a hard time with call quality/reception. I'm getting 3g in places my X2 would struggle with 1x. Very impressed with the radios here.
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Samsung has never had great radio's on VZN for some reason. I remember the GNex being bad compared to my old razr and the rezound.
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its samsung cdma, they write crappy radios. the sprint epic 4g touch (the SGS2 variant) had a brand new feature called LOS, loss of signal, where your phone would lose signal and never alert you or anything. you had to toggle airplane mode when you discovered it to get it back to working.
I haven't tested it very much but my Razr HD definitely has better voice clarity than any of my previous phones, most recently a Galaxy Nexus. I AM having strange intermittend wifi issues though. It seems like my wifi connection will randomly just drop off to almost nothing or disconnect entirely. Then it'll jump back up to a good strong connection again. This happens when it's laying down, when I'm holding it, etc.
Anyway, I'm hoping this phone will get good developer support, it's got all the right features. Or, the international version does at least.
Is the original razr unlockable? If not, I'm sure it would be pretty quick to get things figured out. For now we need BSR though. Do we have any devs that at least have this phone? And are willing to cracked this thing open.
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I was told on twitter that dhacker plans to make a recovery for it along with a few other devs who have picked one up or are going to.
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I was told on twitter that dhacker plans to make a recovery for it along with a few other devs who have picked one up or are going to.
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THIS MAKES ME TINGLY. I'm ready to get a new phone, my galaxy S 1 has seen over 9000 (what, 9000?) ROM flashes and kernels and CWM and Odin and all that jazz... if the Maxx HD is ready to get that same ez-update framework, I am ready to get one right now.
the XDA community is just amazing. it has extended the GS1 to be competitive even into the LTE era.
Hopefully the Maxx HD is worthy of the XDA devs, it sure looks like a viable option right now - it passes the preliminary geek tests, right!?!?
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my galaxy S 1 has seen over 9000 (what, 9000?) ROM flashes
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That can't possibly be right!
CAN IT?
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its samsung cdma, they write crappy radios. the sprint epic 4g touch (the SGS2 variant) had a brand new feature called LOS, loss of signal, where your phone would lose signal and never alert you or anything. you had to toggle airplane mode when you discovered it to get it back to working.
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Im on my 3rd Galaxy nexus for signal issues. My Day 1 has horrible issues now, and every VZW replacement has had issues, purple screen and now this one has a power button sunken into the chassis..... Ill never buy a samsung again
I've built recovery's before, but not BSR style. I'm researching it now. I have a cwm image built, but have to figure out how to use it for BSR.
Hopefully someone more knowledgeable will beat me to it, but if not, I'm working on it.
Not looking for a Who's Better war here. Just wondering if getting a custom ROM onto an HTC phone is really as hard as some Samsung people make it sound.
Getting an upgrade in mid-January, trying to survive by my stupid ass Samsung Infuse 4g until then, which is gradually falling apart. I was looking into either the Note II or HTC One X+. I like the unibodyness of the 1X because I have a habit of dropping everything I pick up, but I like removable battery, microSD, and SAMOLED+ screen of the Note II.
It's kind of down to will the process of getting and changing ROMs on an HTC piss me off even more than Samsung(I'd have to use odin to return to stock every other time I flashed a ROM because it would mess something up)?
Yes
Once you are rooted and have an unlocked bootloader flashing roms is pretty simple on the one x. Im a noob and haven't had issues flashing different roms.
You wouldn't have to use Odin every other time. Samsung is pretty simple.
After having an HTC, I wouldn't say it was really all that much trouble. The only thing is s-off or not making the difference. IIRC, it made kernel flashing a pain not having s-off at the beginning.
Neither of them is a bad choice IMHO if you are a flashaholic.
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If it was 2 years ago I woukd say HTC all the way but right now samsung
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Well with the one x + since HTC only let's you unlock the bl and that program doesn't allow you to install custom kernels.... So on the one x+ you'd have to fast boot flash the boot IMG every time you flash a Rom ... Until s-off that's how it wil be on most new HTC devices
There are a few extra steps to unlock the bootloader on HTC devices. Plus if you are on AT&T, you currently have to temp root and get SuperCID in order to unlock the bootloader.
And as also mentioned on the 1.14 hboot (which comes with the newest 2.20 AT&T firmware) you have to flash boot.img separately using fastboot.
But its my personal belief that anyone that wants to flash custom ROMs on phones should have some level of knowledge and skill in order to do so, or they shouldn't be messing with such things to begin with. None of these things are that hard if you do a bit of research beforehand, and follow instructions properly. Some people seem to make things out as harder than they really are.
Bottom line: if you really want a custom ROM on either brand phone, its really not difficult, and you shouldn't let a couple extra steps here and there deter you.
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Not looking for a Who's Better war here. Just wondering if getting a custom ROM onto an HTC phone is really as hard as some Samsung people make it sound.
Getting an upgrade in mid-January, trying to survive by my stupid ass Samsung Infuse 4g until then, which is gradually falling apart. I was looking into either the Note II or HTC One X+. I like the unibodyness of the 1X because I have a habit of dropping everything I pick up, but I like removable battery, microSD, and SAMOLED+ screen of the Note II.
It's kind of down to will the process of getting and changing ROMs on an HTC piss me off even more than Samsung(I'd have to use odin to return to stock every other time I flashed a ROM because it would mess something up)?
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I have both the HOX (Not the HOX+) and the Note 2. I do have to admit that rooting the N2 with Odin was super easy. Having said that, I will have to echo what redpoint said before. If anyone has any business looking to root, flash or modify their phone in any way, they should put the effort into using ADB, the Android SDK and potentially HTCDev (if on a HTC device). IMO, dumbing things down too much results in way too many bricks and leads to "how do I unbrick my phone" or "I flashed a Vzn ROM on a AT&T phone and now I'm stuck" threads.
In terms of specs, my HOX beats the N2 in almost all day-to-day aspects. Screen is sharper and more true to colour, camera sensor on the N2 makes things look washed out and yellow; whereas the sensor on the HOX is more true to what you would see with your own eyes. Sure the battery and SD card are a bonus, and trust me, I wish the HOX had those, but we have OTG now and it effectively boosts the capacity of the phone. Touchwiz has gotten better but Sense just looks more refined, especially with Sense 4 and above, not as laggy as Sense 3.5 and below and doesn't take as much resources.
So really, if you want to learn a thing or two about the flashing and modding community, take the HOX+ as it will force you to learn and make you a better person on XDA. If you just want a phone that makes it easy to flash things, take the N2.
I'll agree with the comments above. You need to know/learn certain things to root and rom the One X, but those are things you really need to know anyway.
Personally, I wish there were fewer "one-click" and "all-in-one" toolkits floating around because they make it much easier for people to get in over their heads.
One-click or manual, you should never be doing anything to your phone unless you understand what you're changing and how to undo it if necessary. There are few things that annoy me more than "How do I go back to stock?" threads. If you don't know that when you start you shouldn't be rooting.
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Personally, I wish there were fewer "one-click" and "all-in-one" toolkits floating around because they make it much easier for people to get in over their heads.
One-click or manual, you should never be doing anything to your phone unless you understand what you're changing and how to undo it if necessary.
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Very much agree. The OP isn't asking for any one-click solutions in particular. But far too many times, I've seen people on here begging for one-click solutions, instructional videos, etc. when the means already exist and are not at all difficult. Seeking such things usually indicates a lack of desire to research and do any actual learning. One clicks are convenient. But if you absolutely need them, you probably shouldn't be rooting or flashing to begin with.
Athrun88 said:
I have both the HOX (Not the HOX+) and the Note 2. I do have to admit that rooting the N2 with Odin was super easy. Having said that, I will have to echo what redpoint said before. If anyone has any business looking to root, flash or modify their phone in any way, they should put the effort into using ADB, the Android SDK and potentially HTCDev (if on a HTC device). IMO, dumbing things down too much results in way too many bricks and leads to "how do I unbrick my phone" or "I flashed a Vzn ROM on a AT&T phone and now I'm stuck" threads.
In terms of specs, my HOX beats the N2 in almost all day-to-day aspects. Screen is sharper and more true to colour, camera sensor on the N2 makes things look washed out and yellow; whereas the sensor on the HOX is more true to what you would see with your own eyes. Sure the battery and SD card are a bonus, and trust me, I wish the HOX had those, but we have OTG now and it effectively boosts the capacity of the phone. Touchwiz has gotten better but Sense just looks more refined, especially with Sense 4 and above, not as laggy as Sense 3.5 and below and doesn't take as much resources.
So really, if you want to learn a thing or two about the flashing and modding community, take the HOX+ as it will force you to learn and make you a better person on XDA. If you just want a phone that makes it easy to flash things, take the N2.
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I had to do a **** ton to get my Kindle Fire rooted. I had to download the android SDK, make a windows XP virtual machine, type out hundreds of things into a command prompt, mostly because it didn't work the first 11 times. Then I had to download more stuff and run more commands to get the FFF kernel on it (to keep it from killing itself). Is it going to be harder than that? (also had to do that to my infuse when I accidentally put unrooted GB on it, since oneclick doesn't work for GB sometimes)
Also a couple years ago my Gtablet wasn't being very nice. I figured it out, almost bricked it, and managed to return it to stock well enough that they accepted a return when the charging port farted out.
How long does it usually take to get/make/whatever S-Off?
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I had to do a **** ton to get my Kindle Fire rooted. I had to download the android SDK, make a windows XP virtual machine, type out hundreds of things into a command prompt, mostly because it didn't work the first 11 times. Then I had to download more stuff and run more commands to get the FFF kernel on it (to keep it from killing itself). Is it going to be harder than that? (also had to do that to my infuse when I accidentally put unrooted GB on it, since oneclick doesn't work for GB sometimes)
Also a couple years ago my Gtablet wasn't being very nice. I figured it out, almost bricked it, and managed to return it to stock well enough that they accepted a return when the charging port farted out.
How long does it usually take to get/make/whatever S-Off?
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I don't remember having so much issue with my fire. S-off depends on quite a bit. Some phones have only taken a few weeks, but the rezound took months along with vivid and raider. Hboot updates can affect this as well if htc discovers holes first. It's a toss up.
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Sooo Note II?
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Sooo Note II?
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Play with the phones stock. See what floats your boat. I went with s3 instead of either Note 2 or One x+. Just the right size and screen is well enough along with battery. Sense is heavier than touchwiz. Keep that in mind when thinking skin features if you stay with stock based ROMs. AOSP was my thing coming from Nexus.
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Play with the phones stock. See what floats your boat. I went with s3 instead of either Note 2 or One x+. Just the right size and screen is well enough along with battery. Sense is heavier than touchwiz. Keep that in mind when thinking skin features if you stay with stock based ROMs. AOSP was my thing coming from Nexus.
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How am I supposed to play with them stock? No one I know has either, and the AT&T store isn't going to take out 2 brand new phones and give them to me to play with.
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How am I supposed to play with them stock? No one I know has either, and the AT&T store isn't going to take out 2 brand new phones and give them to me to play with.
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Most att stores have phones set up to play with as well as bestbuy.
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How am I supposed to play with them stock? No one I know has either, and the AT&T store isn't going to take out 2 brand new phones and give them to me to play with.
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Actually, all AT&T stores should have sample phones to play with. Otherwise, go to another store or Best Buy or Wal-Mart to get an idea.
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Actually, all AT&T stores should have sample phones to play with. Otherwise, go to another store or Best Buy or Wal-Mart to get an idea.
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And the reps all have AT&T phones as well, odds are they have different ones you can look at
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Went to the att store. No matter how many times I see the note ii it feels big as f**k. They both seem pretty nice to me. Tried an siii just cuz and it was noticeably choppier with half the cpu. The note ii might have been a very tiny bit laggier but that's just tw.
Both good...
Might go with the one x+ just because of 64gb and better build quality slightly.
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HTC makes better hardware with useful features. Samsung builds device with features that make you say WOW, but many aren't that useful.