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[Q] Neutrino or ROM similar to neutrino for atrix 2?

Hey all,
So basically the wifi/Bluetooth hardware has crapped out on this phone and since there's no Atrix 4g anymore they're sending me an Atrix 2 MB865 tomorrow.
Having tried a lot of different ROMs on the 4g my favorite by far is the NEUTRINO ROM ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1398819 ).
I was curious if anyone had also made the switch from the 4g to the 2 and if they can reccomend a comparable ROM. I'll probably have to try what's available and find out for myself, but any guidance is appreciated!
Thanks.
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RebelRom or VictoryRom easy to install debloated, really responsive.
Supercharged V5, excellent Rom, bit more to install. Probably the best as well.
I use VictoryRom because I don't have the patience to install Supercharged.
Waiting for the release of RebelRom stable.
Well I am sure none of this helped!
Really you cannot go wrong with any of them, it's a matter of taste.
ATRIX 2 / Victory Rom

I would say VictoryRom is closest to that. Atrix 4G's bootloader is unlocked right? Atrix 2 is not. So there are workarounds that make installing ROMs a different process.
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Use victory Rom for simplicity and closest to stock
Rebel Rom for a bit tweaked and sony-like launcher
Supercharged Rom for heavy tweaking and slight theming
Blaze Rom for both heavy tweaking and heavy theming
But the rom you wanted is based off cyanogen mod, our bootloader is locked therefore our customizations are limited and cyanogen mod isn't available for the atrix 2 yet.

Thanks for the replies. It is going to be hard not having cyanogenmod...to the point where I may sell the phone and opt for an SGS II for the time being which I hate to say because I love my Atrix .
Are there still folks working on unlocking the bootloader? I read the project cheesecake thread but it seems it's been going on forever with no real progress.
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Some folks are working on CM7 for the Atrix 2 (using the 2nd init method iirc).
Last I heard it was close to testing...

kisnerct said:
Thanks for the replies. It is going to be hard not having cyanogenmod...to the point where I may sell the phone and opt for an SGS II for the time being which I hate to say because I love my Atrix .
Are there still folks working on unlocking the bootloader? I read the project cheesecake thread but it seems it's been going on forever with no real progress.
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People (mainly Jim) are working on a method to get around the bootloader (bypass it) using kexec. It's maybe a couple weeks from being released. And wer're getting ICS sometime in July officially. We'll probably have a leaked version months before allowing us to get CM9 in. SO I HIGHLY RECOMMEND NOT SELLING YOUR PHONE. That is all.

farshad525hou said:
People (mainly Jim) is working on a method to get around the bootloader (bypass it) using kexec. It's maybe a couple weeks from being released. And wer're getting ICS sometime in July officially. We'll probably have a leaked version months before allowing us to get CM9 in. SO I HIGLY RECOMMEND NOT SELLING YOUR PHONE. That is all.
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Couldn't have said it better myself.
Jim is working on bypassing the bootloader and CM7 so you will probably see the two released around the same time.

cogeary said:
Couldn't have said it better myself.
Jim is working on bypassing the bootloader and CM7 so you will probably see the two released around the same time.
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that too

Got the phone, rooted it and not even bothering with a ROM atm, just some tweaks (remove bloatware, deblur, launcher, cpu etc).
Honestly, in just the first day I'm liking this phone a bit more than the Atrix 4g. Phone is snappy, my speedtests are insane (don't know if it's true 4g lte, but I live in Boston and I got about 10mb/s down earlier, 1.5up), and the screen/colors seem a lot better than the 4g but that could just be all in my head due to the slightly larger screen size.
So I'm not gonna jump ship and go SGS II, just going to be patient and wait for the unlocked bootloader

CM10?

On the CyanogenMod website I don't see much CM10 support for Motorola devices :/ Do you guys think there will be a CM based ROM for this phone eventually?

Cm10 is even on the X2 so I'd assume so. Hope so at least. Give it some time.
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I'm hoping that many people are still waiting for this device to pick up, and hopefully its a large amount. If the devs get on this, I'll be a real happy dude. I loved CM9 on my Droid X, so if CM makes a comeback on this, you can bet I'll flash it.
However the phone just came out, so I can't see it happening soon. Maybe after a bit.

From what I've heard at least a few known devs are picking one up. With root and SBF files already leaked, I'd say this phone is on it's way.
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I think CM10 would fly on this device. Would make it very popular since it has such an amazing battery. I would flash it on my Maxx HD in a heartbeat. Would make it my daily driver too.

Oh jeez yeah with CM the battery would last for years haha

Waiting on a stable CM10 based Rom to drop for this phone, then I'll be purchasing the Dev edition. I miss Moto devices, and have been very disappointed in the reception with my SGS3. I've dropped more calls with this phone than all my other phones combined. Especially on AOSP ROMs
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bwhite757 said:
Waiting on a stable CM10 based Rom to drop for this phone, then I'll be purchasing the Dev edition. I miss Moto devices, and have been very disappointed in the reception with my SGS3. I've dropped more calls with this phone than all my other phones combined. Especially on AOSP ROMs
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So your on nightly build asop ROMs on your sgs3 and your blaming bad reception on Samsung?
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Lol. Just to be fair though you can't beat the Moto radio.
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robstunner said:
So your on nightly build asop ROMs on your sgs3 and your blaming bad reception on Samsung?
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Yes blaming Samsung, because I still have problems with their stock TouchWhiz ROMs. I would never judge a phone by it's lack of development. I only play with AOSP ROMs in the weekends, then restore my Nandroid of TouchWhiz through the week for work. I still drop more calls with this phone then I think I should, I even had it replaced because I thought I had bad hardware.
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bwhite757 said:
Yes blaming Samsung, because I still have problems with their stock TouchWhiz ROMs. I would never judge a phone by it's lack of development. I only play with AOSP ROMs in the weekends, then restore my Nandroid of TouchWhiz through the week for work. I still drop more calls with this phone then I think I should, I even had it replaced because I thought I had bad hardware.
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Samsung has never had great radio's on VZN for some reason. I remember the GNex being bad compared to my old razr and the rezound.

Lol. Just to be fair though you can't beat the Moto radio.
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True story there. Never had a hard time with call quality/reception. I'm getting 3g in places my X2 would struggle with 1x. Very impressed with the radios here.
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robstunner said:
Samsung has never had great radio's on VZN for some reason. I remember the GNex being bad compared to my old razr and the rezound.
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its samsung cdma, they write crappy radios. the sprint epic 4g touch (the SGS2 variant) had a brand new feature called LOS, loss of signal, where your phone would lose signal and never alert you or anything. you had to toggle airplane mode when you discovered it to get it back to working.

I haven't tested it very much but my Razr HD definitely has better voice clarity than any of my previous phones, most recently a Galaxy Nexus. I AM having strange intermittend wifi issues though. It seems like my wifi connection will randomly just drop off to almost nothing or disconnect entirely. Then it'll jump back up to a good strong connection again. This happens when it's laying down, when I'm holding it, etc.
Anyway, I'm hoping this phone will get good developer support, it's got all the right features. Or, the international version does at least.

Is the original razr unlockable? If not, I'm sure it would be pretty quick to get things figured out. For now we need BSR though. Do we have any devs that at least have this phone? And are willing to cracked this thing open.
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I was told on twitter that dhacker plans to make a recovery for it along with a few other devs who have picked one up or are going to.
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GoClifGo05 said:
I was told on twitter that dhacker plans to make a recovery for it along with a few other devs who have picked one up or are going to.
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THIS MAKES ME TINGLY. I'm ready to get a new phone, my galaxy S 1 has seen over 9000 (what, 9000?) ROM flashes and kernels and CWM and Odin and all that jazz... if the Maxx HD is ready to get that same ez-update framework, I am ready to get one right now.
the XDA community is just amazing. it has extended the GS1 to be competitive even into the LTE era.
Hopefully the Maxx HD is worthy of the XDA devs, it sure looks like a viable option right now - it passes the preliminary geek tests, right!?!?

SeatownGST said:
my galaxy S 1 has seen over 9000 (what, 9000?) ROM flashes
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That can't possibly be right!
CAN IT?

shabbypenguin said:
its samsung cdma, they write crappy radios. the sprint epic 4g touch (the SGS2 variant) had a brand new feature called LOS, loss of signal, where your phone would lose signal and never alert you or anything. you had to toggle airplane mode when you discovered it to get it back to working.
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Im on my 3rd Galaxy nexus for signal issues. My Day 1 has horrible issues now, and every VZW replacement has had issues, purple screen and now this one has a power button sunken into the chassis..... Ill never buy a samsung again

I've built recovery's before, but not BSR style. I'm researching it now. I have a cwm image built, but have to figure out how to use it for BSR.
Hopefully someone more knowledgeable will beat me to it, but if not, I'm working on it.

[Q] Lost data

I just flashed the latest version of cm10.1 and now i have an R over my signal bar. Can someone tell me how to fix this? This happened once before when i flashed the 12182012 cm10.1 and it took me forever to fix.

Try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2066275. Try what's in the last post before following the instructions in the OP.

gocool767 said:
I just flashed the latest version of cm10.1 and now i have an R over my signal bar. Can someone tell me how to fix this? This happened once before when i flashed the 12182012 cm10.1 and it took me forever to fix.
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BigErnM said:
Try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2066275. Try what's in the last post before following the instructions in the OP.
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Yea we are in the hundreds of new posts on this one. Would help if some would read before they flash.

Agreed, it's getting ridiculous!
People know this.... 4.2 rom's have data problems. Practically every rom thread discusses this in a high level of detail. There are fixes if you read. Not gonna hand out this answer, as it's been said over and over in the forums. It's a source issue, even nexus devices are experiencing this issue.
Next, 4.2 will completely change your storage arrangement on your device. Legacy/and 0 folders will become dominant due to the multiuser features. Read, and learn what this will do, and how to recover from it if you downgrade back to 4.1. The op's all warn of these issues! :screwy:
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annoyingduck said:
Agreed, it's getting ridiculous!
People know this.... 4.2 rom's have data problems. Practically every rom thread discusses this in a high level of detail. There are fixes if you read. Not gonna hand out this answer, as it's been said over and over in the forums. It's a source issue, even nexus devices are experiencing this issue.
Next, 4.2 will completely change your storage arrangement on your device. Legacy/and 0 folders will become dominant due to the multiuser features. Read, and learn what this will do, and how to recover from it if you downgrade back to 4.1. The op's all warn of these issues! :screwy:
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Damn Duck. Even the devices released with 4.2 have problems. How they think gonna be stable on unsupported devices. I have $600 device. I want everything it came with to go faster but not willing to have cutting edge broke ****.

Dog, it took me all of 2 min of reading to know to stay away from 4.2 on our s3 at this time. I agree, the hit or miss on data is to risky, especially when I'm a year and a half from an upgrade!
I'm running stock rooted pure Google 4.2.1 on my Nexus 7, and it is still a WIP. For custom roms, the multiuser partitioning for source/cm based roms is causing headaches. So much is different than 4.1. Simple theme engine themes are borking the devices, as the legacy folder doesn't know where to apply it. Brand new nexus and s**t is broken, how the hell is our s3 gonna be any better running this android version at this time! Hell, cm10 based roms are still lacking full Samsung source coding....
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annoyingduck said:
Dog, it took me all of 2 min of reading to know to stay away from 4.2 on our s3 at this time. I agree, the hit or miss on data is to risky, especially when I'm a year and a half from an upgrade!
I'm running stock rooted pure Google 4.2.1 on my Nexus 7, and it is still a WIP. For custom roms, the multiuser partitioning for source/cm based roms is causing headaches. So much is different than 4.1. Simple theme engine themes are borking the devices, as the legacy folder doesn't know where to apply it. Brand new nexus and s**t is broken, how the hell is our s3 gonna be any better running this android version at this time! Hell, cm10 based roms are still lacking full Samsung source coding....
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Glad to see you duck. Haven't heard from you for a while. Hey man. I'm rockin stock deodexed,kerneled, tweaked, themed 4.1.1 with all the 4.1.1-4.2 inverted apps available. **** stable. Everything works. And no hiccups. I'm good to go. Running 1.72/384 with Quad of 6500. If they didn't see my right handed app button wouldn't know I was running TW. Fast and smooth enough for me and I can call home if I need to.

You too, been on eclipse aosp for the longest time. All decked out. Running a mix of Gunthermic's dh inverts, b-boys, and justins. Will be rocking some synergy once I finish up some beta theme testing

[Q] Really need to ask these questions before I go further

Okay, i'm new to the whole rooting thing and I think I get the basic concept and all of that, but is it beneficial for me?
- Right now i'm running Nova launcher and have it set up perfect for me. No problem with speed or any of that, so not an issue there,
- I have windows 8 so does this make the process of rooting any different? I hear it does in some cases and I don't want to be screwed if I get stuck
- The only reason I am even thinking about rooting is to just get a dang update on my phone. I'm tired of waiting for updates I feel will never come.
- I would need a ROM that I could count on without checking for updates religiously.
- Is rooting something for me? Or should I stick with Nova seeing that I get a satisfying experience with it. (I also hear a lot of ROM's ship with Nova anyway.)
- Is there any step by step tutorials with windows 8 complete with all of the files I will need? (Excluding ROM's of course. I would get those on my own)

If you haven't fully researched rooting or completely understand it I don't recommend it. Also, what's so bad about ics that makes you think jb will blow it away?
Don't take offense as that's not my intention. There are so many posts about people soft bricking their phone or worse mainly because they don't fully understand it or to impatient to wait. The only real reason I rooted was to remove bloatware. I'm still on 4.0.4 and not complaining a smidge
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Spastic909 said:
If you haven't fully researched rooting or completely understand it I don't recommend it. Also, what's so bad about ics that makes you think jb will blow it away?
Don't take offense as that's not my intention. There are so many posts about people soft bricking their phone or worse mainly because they don't fully understand it or to impatient to wait. The only real reason I rooted was to remove bloatware. I'm still on 4.0.4 and not complaining a smidge
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No offence taken at all. I just like the stock android so much which is why I wish I could get my hands on a nexus device, but unfortunately being a college student, I take what I can get.
And iv'e researched it as much as I could im just still confused with a couple things such as the Drivers some people have told me I need to get etc etc. I've watched flows videos over and over and I get HOW to do it, but was there anything done before in any way?

If you dig your setup with nova launcher id suggest sticking with that and wait till official ota. However if u still want to root, make sure its not a USB 3.0 connection as I've seen from another post doesn't seem to work.
Rooting is pretty easy as long as you don't skip steps. Unlock bootloader, flash recovery, flash superuser, flash Rom after wiping everything but not before you make a nandroid backup of stock Rom and save it to storage externally, flash boot.img located within zip after Rom flash
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By the sound of it, you have no need for root. You are happy with your current setup and doesnt appear to be an 'advanced user' who messes around in the system all day.
My suggestion is to read up what root actually does, then decide if its something you need/want.
By the sound of your first post - no, you dont need root.

Re: [Q] Really need to ask these questions before I
If you are happy running Nova launcher on a sense kernel than just wait for ota.
By the way... Nova being used by a rom is no different than what you are doing now.
Now if you want the Nexus experience then by all means root. CyanogenMod is awesome on the One S and has everything working fine. I am using it and have the latest Android 4.2.2. CM gives us updates almost as quickly as the Nexus gets.
To the other poster mentioning why would one need jellybean.
Jellybean is on a whole new level compared to ICS. Much faster and smoother. Until you try it you will not understand how ICS is just not as good. Plus the Google Now and the rest of Google services are amazing on JB.
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I'm very familiar with jb for your information...
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LikeaG2root said:
Jellybean is on a whole new level compared to ICS. Much faster and smoother. Until you try it you will not understand how ICS is just not as good. Plus the Google Now and the rest of Google services are amazing on JB.
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If you are comparing stock ICS with stock JB, JB is terrible compared to ICS. AOSP JB is better than ICS though, on that I can agree.

I was referring to AOSP JB. I gave up on Sense a long time ago. The only thing I miss about sense kernel is the loudness of Beats Audio. There are sound mods available but none are as loud as Beats on stock.
I did try the EU update version of JB and I felt it was much smoother than ICS. Battery life was the negative on stock JB.
CM 10.1 has been incredible. CM will help me hold on to this phone a little longer until I decide between the One, rumored Moto X, or next Nexus.
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How is developer support for the Galaxy line of phones?

Wasn't sure if this is more Q&A or not.
Right now I have the evo 3d. Support for it was really good, actually still 2 or 3 developers working with it, so I'm running kitkat on it right now, which has kept me from feeling the need to upgrade right away.
Anyway, like a lot of other people I'm deciding between the m8 and s5, I might wait a little longer just to see what LG drops. I'm not too familiar with how developer friendly the Galaxy line of phones are, specifically the Sprint models. I've read varying opinions from there's little development outside of some TW roms to development is strong.
Developer support is a big deciding factor for me since it can really allow you to prolong the life of your phone, hence why I'm still using my evo 3d, though it's falling apart now and showing its age so its time to finally bite the bullet and upgrade.
Not asking anyone to predict the future on how dev support will be for the s5 but just looking for input on how it's been for the previous Galaxy phones just so I have some idea. Talking TW roms as well as AOSP roms.
Thanks!

Once you get used to using Odin to flash you'll be fine. I find that Samsung Galaxy's (I've now owned Sprints epic 4g touch, S4 and now S5) have always had excellent support here. I generally only root stock to clean up the crap software but on numerous occasions I've used full roms from XDA to see what else is out there.
A few annoyances:
1) Knox is security software that trips when you modify parts of the system and supposedly Sprint can use a tripped Knox counter to refuse warranty work. This has never happened to me however and I've had to swap handsets many times.
2) Samsung is good at getting you hooked on touchwiz and their ecosystem of apps; I like the smart view covers and it's been tough getting it to work on some of the roms available. I also like the Samsung default camera which thankfully works well on most roms, but some functions within the camera weren't available.
3) Root, in my opinion, is required to make Sprint's handsets run optimally. Mostly because you need to remove the crap software, but so far Chainfire has been fantastic getting root out very quickly for most of the handsets/providers within days of release.
Hope this helps!

So why don't you just look in the respective Galaxy phone forums and see for yourself how development is coming along? It's a simple thing to pop in here and there and just see the different ROMs, etc.
The Galaxy line is by far the most popular Android brand right now and as such gets a lot of developer attention.

I just pray @sacs will get an s5. He had the best rom ever for the s4. Id be willing to drop some $ if it would guarantee he got this phone. Kind of worried about development right now haven't seen any devs talking about doing anything for is yet. I guess thats what you get when you get a phone at release.
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durandetto said:
I just pray @sacs will get an s5. He had the best rom ever for the s4. Id be willing to drop some $ if it would guarantee he got this phone. Kind of worried about development right now haven't seen any devs talking about doing anything for is yet. I guess thats what you get when you get a phone at release.
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Unfotunately he won't be. He's devoted to the Note series at the moment, and has not expressed any need to get teh S5
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I just jumped from the S2 to the S5 - I was hooked on Dirty Unicorns and SlimBean, so I'm crossing my fingers they release those (or some variant them) for the S5 soon. I've already rooted mine, but just sitting here waiting with a boring stock ROM is killing me!
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I'm stewing on it. Cost is an obvious factor but I have an idea on how to pull it off.
If do it won't be likely until May at earliest.
Regardless whether I get or not I'll do what I can to help things move along.

Where is the almighty Myn these days....?
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rhizomorph said:
I just jumped from the S2 to the S5 - I was hooked on Dirty Unicorns and SlimBean, so I'm crossing my fingers they release those (or some variant them) for the S5 soon. I've already rooted mine, but just sitting here waiting with a boring stock ROM is killing me!
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I know what you mean. Same here.

rhizomorph said:
I just jumped from the S2 to the S5 - I was hooked on Dirty Unicorns and SlimBean, so I'm crossing my fingers they release those (or some variant them) for the S5 soon. I've already rooted mine, but just sitting here waiting with a boring stock ROM is killing me!
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Robbie Doo said:
I know what you mean. Same here.
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Once we get our trees up Slim will be one of the first I build

The S2 was my first time playing around with custom ROMs, and by the time I got around to it there were already several available - how long does it usually take custom ROMs to hit the community when a new phone comes out? Are we talking months?
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bmark34 said:
Where is the almighty Myn these days....?
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Myn switched over to T-mobile years ago, but I don't think he does much develop like he used to
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I love Samsung...but looks like the majority of Devs went to the M8...reason why I switched over....both are amazing devices...but I love to have a phones with a lot of options....but im sure both phones with have good support....