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[Q] Rooting for Newbies

I am getting my new Thunderbolt tonight. After some research, I have decided for some specific reasons I would like to root this phone. I have never rooted a phone before and would like some direction.
The first step as I understand it is to back up the original operating system. How is that done? After that what's next? What I need is the wifi hotspot feature unlocked. Is there a specific root to accomplish this? What's been proven the best so far?
If someone wants to email me personally on this, feel free. I need to do this, but can't afford to brick a brand new phone.
Thanks.

Rooting is just a way to gain complete control of your phone. There aren't different types and the best way to do it is in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=996616.
Just follow those steps and you should be fine. You don't need to back up your entire operating system to root but you might want to back up your applications so you can easily reinstall them. After you follow the steps in that thread and are rooted just search for wireless tether in the market and it lets you tether for free.

You. said:
Rooting is just a way to gain complete control of your phone. There aren't different types and the best way to do it is in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=996616.
Just follow those steps and you should be fine. You don't need to back up your entire operating system to root but you might want to back up your applications so you can easily reinstall them. After you follow the steps in that thread and are rooted just search for wireless tether in the market and it lets you tether for free.
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I can second that. I literally just completed rooting my Thunderbolt that I received today. I followed the 10 step program from the thread (my wife thinks I need a 12 step program with my phone addiction ). It ran without a hitch just type (or cut and paste) exactly as written. I wanted to thank the OP in the development thread, but I need 10 posts so this is another one!

I believe what you've heard about backing up the original operating system is what you do right after you've rooted before you begin flashing custom roms and kernels which is the main reason you root in the first place. There is plenty of info but here's a little list.
1. Follow the rooting thread that You posted above me (Who's on first? What's on second?)
2. Install Rom Manager (RM).
3. Launch Rom manager and install clockwork recovery(first option on RM)
4. Second option on RM is boot into recovery.
5. Once in recovery go into Backup /Restor
6. Choose Backup - This is called a Nandroid Backup and is a snapshot of your phone in it's current state. It saves the backup onto the phone under /clockworkmod/backup place a copy of the backup on your computer for safe keeping and leave the copy on your phone in case of worries.
That should get you started.

Those are the steps I took to root.
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Another option is the easyroot method:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1005292
I just rooted my thunderbolt last night using the easyroot method and didn't run into any major issues. Had to rerun a couple steps, but nothing more than that.
I'm now running BAMF-Remix 1.5 with the radio upate and status bar clock removed.
I literally had zero experience in regards to this and am still confused by some of the terminology, so if I can do it, I have no doubt you should be able to accomplish rooting your phone!
Good luck!

I would suggest using the procedure that jcase posted. It is simple, easy, and you will gain some valuable knowledge of adb which could be useful to you in the future. The process is simple, just copy and paste the commands. The adb knowledge will definitely help you down the road, even though it is minor. Also any problems can be traced to a step. With a one click process it is tough to determine where an issue went wrong.
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jmiller98 said:
I would suggest using the procedure that jcase posted. It is simple, easy, and you will gain some valuable knowledge of adb which could be useful to you in the future. The process is simple, just copy and paste the commands. The adb knowledge will definitely help you down the road, even though it is minor. Also any problems can be traced to a step. With a one click process it is tough to determine where an issue went wrong.
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Easier said than done coming from someone who has been around for a while. I couldn't even figure out how to get adb installed... I installed the Android SDK and had to install the Java SDK but I was still clueless how to actually get adb going... I downloaded the ADB+Drivers for 64bit which had the adb.exe but obviously this can't be ran standalone. So being a complete ignorant fool, is the reason I ended up opting for the easyroot method. That being said, I did intially try for the manual method lol.

I knew nothing about rooting and followed the steps after not being able to do the quick root. AND learned a lot about adb. Good Luck

Your no fool. Alot of the adb setup videos and tutorials are old. It change the execute file from the "tools" directory to "platform-tools" directory. That did stump me since i had to reset up adb on a new computer. I have not been around that long, just did alot of reading, and came from the incredible forum where i turned into a flash junkie with alot of help.
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after you are done rooting deffinately flash clockworkmod recovery and flash a custom rom. I trouble getting root to stay without a custom rom.

In rom manager it gives me an option to flash cwm. What does it do when I flash clockwork recovery?
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Rooting my TB was a pain but it was well worth it. Hopefully there is a faster, easier method now.
Battery life on my rooted TB with leankernel is comparable to what my battery was on my Droid x, if not better

If you're having problems with getting started, you can check out this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=502010
Breaks it down and walks you through setting up ADB. Had I found this prior to doing the easyroot method, I'd have gone through the manual way as well.
Just got ADB installed and gonna start tinkering around with the manual way of things.
Good luck.

Nexus S 4G OneClickRoot!

Is anyone able to create a OneClickRoot for the Nexus S 4G? If not what is keeping someone from creating one?

This would be AWESOME! the unrooting process wasnt that difficult but it did take some time for me since i'm a noob at using the SNS 4G.
The rooting/unrooting sticky in the development section was extremely helpful.

Yeah.. It's really rather easy.
Unlock
Push CWM
Flash SU in CWM
Done

styckx said:
Yeah.. It's really rather easy.
Unlock
Push CWM
Flash SU in CWM
Done
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You for the step where you have to rename install-recovery.sh, otherwise CWM will keep getting removed everytime you reboot.
And, to anyone that is savvy with command line, yes this phone is super easy to root.
But oneclickroot's are nice to have for those less savvy folks out there.
No harm in having extra root methods, it would only help to grow the community.

It appears to be much easier than other phones. Look up the HTC Thunderbolt, for example.
Scary.

AshsToAshs said:
You for the step where you have to rename install-recovery.sh, otherwise CWM will keep getting removed everytime you reboot.
And, to anyone that is savvy with command line, yes this phone is super easy to root.
But oneclickroot's are nice to have for those less savvy folks out there.
No harm in having extra root methods, it would only help to grow the community.
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The NS4G doesn't have that file, CWM stays permanently so its a non issue

My NS4G had it. I was confused about why it kept booting into stock recovery until I read about renaming it. Anyhow, all I did was install Super Manager from the Market, grant it root access, and rename install-recovery.sh to install-recovery.bak. Pretty easy.

Not entirely true. I have it.
If someone can read and follow a guide then they can unlock, recovery, root this phone. Like someone said when I first started reading before doing anything, this phone is a very easy one to root and recovery and unlock (not in that order).
Just do it yo!
Just follow the directions. Look in the dev section. There's two stickies that talk about this stuff for the gsm and the cdma versions. If it were a snake, it would bite you! You can't miss it

terminal emulater
I have been rooting since the g1 and yes it appears to be extremely easy but it would be nice if some one could show the commands to do it through the terminal emulater. Plz someone help

Quite odd, if that is the case I wonder why some have it and some don't?

I know mine didn't.
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I though that all of them did? Mine was in the 'etc' folder in the root partition of my phone.

See now this is odd.... I can definitely say I DO NOT have that file. What I'd love to know is why people with the same phone do

I'm interested in a one-click root not because it is easier, but because most of the one-click methods enable you to root without a data wipe. It is my understanding that there is currently no way to root the NS4g without completely wiping your data. Am I correct?

davpel said:
I'm interested in a one-click root not because it is easier, but because most of the one-click methods enable you to root without a data wipe. It is my understanding that there is currently no way to root the NS4g without completely wiping your data. Am I correct?
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As far as I know, yes you are correct since it requires you to unlock the bootloader, but if you leave it unlocked then it shouldn't mess with any of your data (internal and sd partition).
I have the T-mo version and I don't have the install-recovery.sh anymore. I'm assuming because it was taken out in the custom rom that I'm using.

[Q] Sorry, I'm new...

OK...I've read the Wiki and the Glossary, I've searched the forums, I've been obsessively reading this forum for a week, and I still have some very basic questions that I'm hoping someone can either point me to a link or just drop some info for me. I know many of you have been at this since the Dawn of Android, but sometimes I feel like I'm walking into my first day of med-school when everyone else has been here for 5 years. Assume for a moment that I am a tabula rasa where the rest of you are now writing in the margins of a dense technical manual. Because that's what it feels like for me.
First, some background info: I want to learn how to do all this stuff, but this phone was expensive! I don't want to break it. So I'm cautious. I'm not a programmer but I'm not technically inept. I am good at following directions. I don't panic when things go wrong. So I think I can root, flash, and all the fun stuff that comes with having an Android device. But I have some questions that are still unanswered. I'll try to be as concise as possible (too late, I know):
1) I have the SPH-D720 model. I see rooting guides for the I9020 but not the SPH-D720. Will those other guides work for my device? I've seen other people ask this same question get sent to BuglessPete's guide so I'm assuming so, but I want to be sure.
2) I know that GRJ90 and 2.3.5 just came out. My phone is updated to both. It looks like most of the root guides are still referring to 2.3.4 or 2.3.3. Should I wait until someone releases an updated 2.3.5 guide, or is the method still the same?
3) Backups...these are different than saved settings, yes? So when I root my phone (which apparently requires unlocking the bootloader now) I'm going to lose all of my apps/themes/settings, right?
4) Do any of the developers offer tech support?
I now throw myself to the mercy of the masses, prepared for flames, but hoping for help.

NoobyMcNoob said:
1) I have the SPH-D720 model. I see rooting guides for the I9020 but not the SPH-D720. Will those other guides work for my device? I've seen other people ask this same question get sent to BuglessPete's guide so I'm assuming so, but I want to be sure.
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It's the same.
- fastboot oem unlock
- flash a custom recovery for your device (crespo4g) using fastboot
- boot into CWM, mount system and flash the su binary
NoobyMcNoob said:
2) I know that GRJ90 and 2.3.5 just came out. My phone is updated to both. It looks like most of the root guides are still referring to 2.3.4 or 2.3.3. Should I wait until someone releases an updated 2.3.5 guide, or is the method still the same?
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No change unless you are trying to flash a modified boot.img for adb remount (this is not necessary if you merely want root access)
NoobyMcNoob said:
3) Backups...these are different than saved settings, yes? So when I root my phone (which apparently requires unlocking the bootloader now) I'm going to lose all of my apps/themes/settings, right?
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Yes, fastboot oem unlock wipes everything, including the SD card.

Thanks. So a follow up question then:
Is it possible to back up all of my settings and whatnot, and then quickly put them back after rooting the phone? No biggie if not, and since all of my contact info is on Google that sync happens automatically.

Another question - when I'm installing the sdk, do I need all the other stuff that it automatically selects or can I dump all that and just download the USB driver package?

NoobyMcNoob said:
Another question - when I'm installing the sdk, do I need all the other stuff that it automatically selects or can I dump all that and just download the USB driver package?
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You will need the usb driver and platform tools.
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NoobyMcNoob said:
Thanks. So a follow up question then:
Is it possible to back up all of my settings and whatnot, and then quickly put them back after rooting the phone? No biggie if not, and since all of my contact info is on Google that sync happens automatically.
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You could use something like titanium backup, but watch what you restore as some things cause issues.
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Awesome. I'm taking the leap now! So far, nothing screwed up...

So...I can't get the correct driver installed. In all the guides it says I should have the Bootloader Interface listed as the driver. But that is not one of my options - Allgamer's guide says there should be 3 choices, but I only have 2:
Android ADB Interface
and
Android Composite ADB Interface
How do I choose the Bootloader Interface?

You need to be in the bootloader on the phone I believe. I am new to the nexus s so I am not 100 percent sure.

Didn't work from the bootloader either - still showing Android ADB Interface.
I guess I'll uninstall everything and start from scratch.

[Q] ALL steps to root Motorola Xoom 4.0.4?

So I recently got a Xoom and would like to root it. I can easily search through forums and follow instructions, but I want to be sure on what I have to do. I've rooted and flashed several Android devices already, so I'm no newbie, but once I bricked an Atrix so since then I've always been super cautious.
So now.. how do I root and install CWM on the Xoom? It's on 4.0.4 OTA.
Do I have to unlock the bootloader first?
Specific references to threads and step by step instructions preferred. Thank you!

xFrozen said:
So I recently got a Xoom and would like to root it. I can easily search through forums and follow instructions, but I want to be sure on what I have to do. I've rooted and flashed several Android devices already, so I'm no newbie, but once I bricked an Atrix so since then I've always been super cautious.
So now.. how do I root and install CWM on the Xoom? It's on 4.0.4 OTA.
Do I have to unlock the bootloader first?
Specific references to threads and step by step instructions preferred. Thank you!
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Yes, you will have to unlock first. There's a bit to set up first, but if you read the instructions and get everything you need set up in one place it's pretty easy. Also, it's actually hard to really brick a Xoom. A few have managed but it's not easy.
Try this guide...everything should still work fine, and it explains a lot
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1249798
Good luck!

Hello Everyone im new to the boards here
I'm Trying to root my Friends Xoom for him. He told me he already started the process and unlocked stuff but cant flash anything or succesfully root. I dont know what he actually did and to be honest neither does he..... * put a gun in my mouth haha*
So my question is can i just follow the guide posted and start from the very first step and redo everything and still be ok ?? He has it updated to OTA ICS 4.0.4 I found several guides for 4.0.3 but im not sure if those instructions would still work if anyone could clarify this for me i'd greatly appreciate it

okantomi said:
Yes, you will have to unlock first. There's a bit to set up first, but if you read the instructions and get everything you need set up in one place it's pretty easy. Also, it's actually hard to really brick a Xoom. A few have managed but it's not easy.
Try this guide...everything should still work fine, and it explains a lot
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1249798
Good luck!
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Ah, thanks, it worked
Dooms87 said:
Hello Everyone im new to the boards here
I'm Trying to root my Friends Xoom for him. He told me he already started the process and unlocked stuff but cant flash anything or succesfully root. I dont know what he actually did and to be honest neither does he..... * put a gun in my mouth haha*
So my question is can i just follow the guide posted and start from the very first step and redo everything and still be ok ?? He has it updated to OTA ICS 4.0.4 I found several guides for 4.0.3 but im not sure if those instructions would still work if anyone could clarify this for me i'd greatly appreciate it
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I also had a problem after unlocking. It unlocked fine, but then I couldn't flash CWM through fastboot. My problem was the Application Variable thing, I assume. What I did was go to the platform tools folder (which for me was C:\Program Files (x86)\Android\android-sdk\platform-tools ). I held shift and right clicked Platform Tools, then pressed "open command window here" and then I flashed CWM through fastboot in that window. Just make sure the CWM image is in the Platform Tools folder, along with fastboot.exe.
If you have any issues with that, PM me and I'll try to help.

omg Frozen thank you so most for that post i literally had the same problem CWM would not flash till i did exactly what you said in the last post thank you soo much greatly appreciated

There is one VERY important piece that is left out of most threads.
The newest Xooms that were release overwrite CWM files upon reboot unless you take specific steps to make sure it doesn't... e.g.
have the update.zip you want to use preloaded on the sdcard via pc
or
use a usb with a otg and a version of CWM that can apply update.zip from the USB drive.
Also beware of threads that dont mention what version of the OS they are for. For example its very easy to root your device, but it be on an on 3.x OS and then the OS will update it to 4.04 on the next boot cycle, and wont give you a chance to pick your ROM update. As a result your device is not rooted at this point, and CWM is not installed because you didnt have root in time to move these files:
adb shell mv /system/recovery-from-boot.p.old /system/recovery-from-boot.p
adb shell mv /system/etc/install-recovery.sh.old /system/etc/install-recovery.sh
while in root.
Really sucks.
So in a nutshell those with the latest Xoom tablets that were released, must make sure you find a update.zip that is compatible with ICS 4.04 and then get it to your SDCARD or USB Drive via any method possible - and then flash the right CWM that supports what you want to do, then catch that as it reboots the very first time but pushing the down button and then up button of the volume controls, and then you can install the root (update.zip).... then if all is well you will be able to boot normally, and then go back and get into CWM and install the ROM of your delight.
Experts feel free to chime in so I don't mislead anyone. I wouldn't follow the above advice until an expert puts their AOK on it.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1242241
Any Xoom any update BTW I had my mz601( Telstra ) on offical ics rooted by this method.

[Q] Stock Rooted 4.1.2 rom

Is there a purely stock, rooted, fully functional rom for the Relay out there? I know how to use ADB and prefer doing so as opposed to odin and other methods. Not interested in CWM either. I just need root[for firewall and backup utility reasons] and will debloat manually after installation.

The only method to root the Relay is by using a custom Recovery of some form and ODIN or heimdal. We can not use adb to flash a Relay, it does not have fastboot. ODIN or heimdall are used to flash a Samsung device.

I made a stock rooted, debloated rom. On the Relay, I think you will want to use heimdall (or Odin) to flash CWM. From there, you can root the stock rom or flash custom roms.
The other option would be finding a root exploit.

Magamo said:
The only method to root the Relay is by using a custom Recovery of some form and ODIN or heimdal. We can not use adb to flash a Relay, it does not have fastboot. ODIN or heimdall are used to flash a Samsung device.
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Magamo, You are VERY wrong. I have used ADB to flash my relay from the original T-699UVLH1 to the rooted version. So using a "custom recovery" is most definately not the only way to do it. Perhaps you lack the knowledge to properly use ADB. And I just re-verified, The Relay does indeed have "fastboot". Your post was wrong on so many levels...

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I made a stock rooted, debloated rom. On the Relay, I think you will want to use heimdall (or Odin) to flash CWM. From there, you can root the stock rom or flash custom roms.
The other option would be finding a root exploit.
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Ya, not interested in heimdall, odin and CWM methods. Just looking for a purely stock rom with stock recovery, both in the rooted state.

Well if you can root via adb, then just flash back to 4.1.2 and root it.

lexluthermiester said:
Magamo, You are VERY wrong. I have used ADB to flash my relay from the original T-699UVLH1 to the rooted version. So using a "custom recovery" is most definately not the only way to do it. Perhaps you lack the knowledge to properly use ADB. And I just re-verified, The Relay does indeed have "fastboot". Your post was wrong on so many levels...
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I'm not really certain what you are trying to prove here. If you have a better way, then post your steps so that we all might learn from your awesome knowledge, oh great one. Meanwhile, I'll stick to doing things the proven way for our phone that doesn't involve things that have been unproven, and risky. More than likely, the only way you'll be able to root the relay using ADB only, is by having a modified kernel installed, which... Means you will have had to have rooted the phone already. So you're talking yourself into a catch 22 already. But please, post your process. I'd love to verify the veracity of this.

@lexluthermiester
I'm actually curious on this, I bought a relay months ago but was too busy to play with it much. I can't think of any way to root it solely with adb, are you attempting to push psneuter or some other program to root this way? I guess I just don't see it happening, but please tell as I'm a curious learner
Also how did you re-verify the relay has fastboot? I only know a handful of Samsung devices that have a bootloader capable of using fastboot and am shocked to know this phone does, can you please tell me how you were able to do this?
And for the record I'm not trying to instigate you I just don't see how anything you are saying works, maybe the kernel allows for a simple push of busybox and then you can push superuser into /system/apps after you mount it writeable, I don't see how but would really like to see this method, but mostly I would like to know how to use fastboot on this phone as it would open more possibilities. Did you need to flash a new bootloader to get it to work? If so where did you get it?
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demkantor said:
@lexluthermiester
I'm actually curious on this, I bought a relay months ago but was too busy to play with it much. I can't think of any way to root it solely with adb, are you attempting to push psneuter or some other program to root this way? I guess I just don't see it happening, but please tell as I'm a curious learner
Also how did you re-verify the relay has fastboot? I only know a handful of Samsung devices that have a bootloader capable of using fastboot and am shocked to know this phone does, can you please tell me how you were able to do this?
And for the record I'm not trying to instigate you I just don't see how anything you are saying works, maybe the kernel allows for a simple push of busybox and then you can push superuser into /system/apps after you mount it writeable, I don't see how but would really like to see this method, but mostly I would like to know how to use fastboot on this phone as it would open more possibilities. Did you need to flash a new bootloader to get it to work? If so where did you get it?
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I first learned how to root on my old LG C800[My Touch Q] here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1752704
I ultimately decided that I didn't like the CWM parts and looked for a way to just push the ROM and recovery to the C800. Then looked up a tutorial on how to use ADB properly[can't remember were that was] because of problems with the C800 recovery and discovered in said process, that MOST[dare I say all?] Android phones have a fastboot mode as it is part of the recovery runtime mode. This includes Samsung devices. After finally successfully installing a rooted stock recovery on the C800 I discovered the problem I was having with it was not something I could fix as it was software problem on LG's side[headphone volume issue]. Got rid of it and bought a Relay.
After finding a few different methods rooting the Relay, I decided to use the ADB method I already knew would work. I downloaded a stock rooted ROM[UVLH1, found here on XDA] and painlessly installed it using more or less same methods and procedures that were used on the C800. Installing the recovery was equally as painless. I have had zero problems with the Relay and love it. Have been curious about the update to JB though and have been looking for the aforementioned purely stock rooted ROM. Thing is I like and use a few of T-mobile's preinstalled apps so a debloated ROM is useless to me. I know which software to remove[CarrierIQ for a start] and which to freeze and prefer to do so on my own. So Gee One's rooted ROM doesn't have what's needed. I can fully value and appreciate his work though.
To answer one of your questions directly, I did not use a new bootloader. While CWM is a very handy tool, I don't ROM switch enough and haven't changed the ROM on this Relay since getting the rooted UVLH1 on it.
As for the "instigate" remark, I think the word you likely were looking for is "provoke". You are asking honest questions presented in a lucid and civilized fashion. My response to "Magamo" was invoked because he/she/it came off as a complete dolt and posting woefully inaccurate information, which not only does a dis-service to anyone reading this post, but makes himself look like a monkey diddling football.

Magamo said:
I'm not really certain what you are trying to prove here. If you have a better way, then post your steps so that we all might learn from your awesome knowledge, oh great one. Meanwhile, I'll stick to doing things the proven way for our phone that doesn't involve things that have been unproven, and risky. More than likely, the only way you'll be able to root the relay using ADB only, is by having a modified kernel installed, which... Means you will have had to have rooted the phone already. So you're talking yourself into a catch 22 already. But please, post your process. I'd love to verify the veracity of this.
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Not trying prove anything. And it's not MY "awesome knowledge". ADB was created by, let's think.... OH ya - Google, for use on and for the Android platform. As for your proven/unproven comments, can you be any more misinformed? I've rooted 2 of my own personal phones and dozens of others for family, friends and coworkers, all using ADB. Hmmm.... Your above statement only proves you don't understand or know how to use ADB properly[if at all]. Here's a great idea for you, read a tutorial about how to use ADB and verify it yourself.
And FYI, I did read your message before you edited it, and if this is the kind of help you have to offer on regular basis, kindly DON'T in future. You have my sincerest thanks!

gee one said:
Well if you can root via adb, then just flash back to 4.1.2 and root it.
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I simply used ADB to flash a pre-rooted ROM[UVLH1] to the Relay. I'm currently on 4.0.4 and would like to try 4.1.2, but need a few things you seem to have removed from the ROM you posted. If you happened to have a stock + rooted ROM, could you post it? And if you do would you all like me to post a step by step for installing it using ADB?

There is a stock mc5 rom that has all the stuff that I took out. You could use that to add back in the pieces that I took out of my version. I think you might need simg2img to convert the stock system to an ext4 img file that can be loop mounted,
I think the http://samsung-updates.com/ site should have the JB rom.

@lexluthermiester
I'm not seeing where this hostility toward Magamo is coming from, I'm sure he knows how to use adb as he appears to be on team apex who devs for this phone. But I still am not sure how you were able to root your relay just with adb, I guess I just wasn't able to find the method you used looking through the mytouch q thread. Again not trying to instigate or rather provoke you but could you lay it out for me, just not wrapping my head around this
And also I only know of three or so Samsung devices with fastboot capabilities, all of which are nexus devices, can you explain how to get into fastboot, this would be super cool to me, as for answering your question on stock jellybean ROM can you not just update your phone via ota or did your root method break this, thanks
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gee one said:
There is a stock mc5 rom that has all the stuff that I took out. You could use that to add back in the pieces that I took out of my version. I think you might need simg2img to convert the stock system to an ext4 img file that can be loop mounted,
I think the http://samsung-updates.com/ site should have the JB rom.
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I've posted a stock MC5 Image that's been run through simg2img on the Stock ROM thread. It's in update.zip form, it also contains a boot.img simply unzip that, and there you go. I've also posted a stock recovery in the same post.
And lexluther, you still haven't posted the steps you took. I'm still quite interested in verifying the veracity of this, considering that the stock image and kernel has adb root access disabled, so how did you enable fastboot, especially since as we all on TeamApexQ who have disassembled both the software and hardware of the relay never found a way to, hence my posts. Instead of being insulting, confrontational and provocative with me, how about you just be rational and helpful, hmmm? Saying you did it on a completely different phone by a different manufacturer is ... less than helpful.

@lexluthermiester
I know you confirmed once and then reconfirmed but I'm still not seeing any fastboot option for this phone, maybe you could help me out on this
And I feel I'm well versed in adb but I still can't find a wat to root this phone without a custom kernel or recovery, I would really like to know how. Are you sure you can't just write out these steps quick for me, thanks again
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demkantor said:
@lexluthermiester
I know you confirmed once and then reconfirmed but I'm still not seeing any fastboot option for this phone, maybe you could help me out on this
And I feel I'm well versed in adb but I still can't find a wat to root this phone without a custom kernel or recovery, I would really like to know how. Are you sure you can't just write out these steps quick for me, thanks again
Sent from my Nexus 4 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
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Sorry mate, I would have if I'd ever seen this message. Sadly I don't have the Relay anymore, battery popped and killed the phone with it. If memory serves you needed to have a stock rom[before the update] and then pushed the rooted rom to it through adb, then letting it update itself that way, but I'm not sure as it's been so long.

demkantor said:
@lexluthermiester
I know you confirmed once and then reconfirmed but I'm still not seeing any fastboot option for this phone, maybe you could help me out on this
And I feel I'm well versed in adb but I still can't find a wat to root this phone without a custom kernel or recovery, I would really like to know how. Are you sure you can't just write out these steps quick for me, thanks again
Sent from my Nexus 4 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
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You may also wish to check out this thread;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2256821

demkantor said:
@lexluthermiester
I know you confirmed once and then reconfirmed but I'm still not seeing any fastboot option for this phone, maybe you could help me out on this
And I feel I'm well versed in adb but I still can't find a wat to root this phone without a custom kernel or recovery, I would really like to know how. Are you sure you can't just write out these steps quick for me, thanks again
Sent from my Nexus 4 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
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And/Or this one;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2528752