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[Q] Eee Pad Slider vs. Transformer

With the Eee Pad Slider coming "soon" according to Engadget, is anyone thinking of getting the Slider instead of the TF? Personally, I think the TF is still a better option because of the keyboard dock USB ports, SD slot and extra battery life, but I'm really beginning to like the Slider too.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/27/asus-eee-pad-slider-going-on-sale-soon-price-is-still-anyone/
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Is the keyboard always attached to the tablet? the article don't explain that part.
If it does, then the TF is better for me since there is the option to use as tablet only or netbook.
Still, the slider looks nice.

No touchpad so no
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Such a large sliding device is a little ambitious in my mind, have you watched any of the hands on vids from CES? I saw a guy open one and he had to be real careful to apply even pressure on both sides while sliding. I think the slider is a little too bulky, not that the tf is small but you can detach if you want. Just got mine in today and liking it so far.
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frosty5689 said:
No touchpad so no
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Good point. Plus, it's missing the keyboard shortcuts. Plus, one of the nice things about the dock is that it protects the screen when it's closed. The Slider has no screen protection.

The slider is cool, but I personally prefer the detachable dock approach. That way when you are actually using it as a tablet you drop the bulk added by the keyboard, the slider will always be a bulky device even when you have the keyboard closed. In all honesty though I'm still in the honeymoon phase with my Transformer so that may sway my decision a little. Pricing will be a huge factor I think, if they can get the slider somewhere between $500-$600 it will do very well.
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the slider really is a cool device and a cool concept, but it's not really that practical.
With the transformer you can lose the keyboard when you want, and then dock it when you need it. Also means you can carry it around without having to worry about the screen getting destroyed.
and as it's been said. 2x USB ports and trackpad. good enough reason right there.

how about $449

frosty5689 said:
No touchpad so no
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doesnt the touchscreen render the touchpad at most a secondary input device, at the very least, useless? i have the dock with my tf and i mostly turn off the touchpad since i have the tendency to touch with when typing, causing inadvertent movement of the cursor.
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finalhit said:
doesnt the touchscreen render the touchpad at most a secondary input device, at the very least, useless? i have the dock with my tf and i mostly turn off the touchpad since i have the tendency to touch with when typing, causing inadvertent movement of the cursor.
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quite the opposite for me .... when i have the keyboard attached i find myself using the touchpad much more than the touchscreen ..... seems awkward to reach over the keyboard ..... of course my attitude might change over time but this way at least i have the choice

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With the transformer you can lose the keyboard when you want, and then dock it when you need it.
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+1 When I first saw both devices, I wanted the weight advantage of using just the tablet i.e. 680g for just the TF vs 886g for the Slider!

and I'm sure you won't get the 16hr battery life on the slider

Another (small) point to make is that the angle of the Slider's screen cannot be adjusted to get rid of reflections etc like the transformer can.....

The article says the Slider will use the Atom Z670 processor instead of Tegra 2. Any advantages to this?
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gadgetfann said:
The article says the Slider will use the Atom Z670 processor instead of Tegra 2. Any advantages to this?
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Touchscreen lap warmer.

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Touchscreen lap warmer.
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Assuming you can comfortably keep it on your lap with that form factor. From my lap height and with the screen that close to the keys i think i would be poking at the bottom of the screen edge a lot. Interesting design, but it seems a bit awkward overall.
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depends, the transformers dock makes it alot heavyer and thicker, if the sliders keyboard is ultra light and thin i could see it playing a huge part in the tablet world. and since there isnt a mouse pad u dont have to reach nearly as far to get to the screen to scroll.

nrapallo said:
+1 When I first saw both devices, I wanted the weight advantage of using just the tablet i.e. 680g for just the TF vs 886g for the Slider!
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How much weight it the tf + dock i wonder.. I'd estimate 950. Just curious, obviously I prefer the tf
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gadgetfann said:
The article says the Slider will use the Atom Z670 processor instead of Tegra 2. Any advantages to this?
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It's a x86 processor, meaning it can run everything your desktop pc can. Prepare for battery life to take a nose dive.

klau1 said:
It's a x86 processor, meaning it can run everything your desktop pc can. Prepare for battery life to take a nose dive.
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+1
That was my first thought when I read it came with Atom instead of Tegra... Bye bye to big battery times.
Regards.

Asus Eee Pad Transformer weight vs Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1

I asked this question before BUT Samsung just released their keyboard
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Now, I develop websites for a living, so for me it's important to show my client his webpage and generate that "wow" factor in them
So even though it sounds superficial, I'm all about looks
With the keyboard, this baby looks GREAT (I saw it today at the Verizon store)
Anyway, with both tables having nice keyboards, my question is
if I buy the 32GB Verizon of the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1, and I return the Asus Eee Pad transformer, what will I miss from the Transformer?
I guess I will miss the extra battery that comes from the keyboard
Today is THE LAST day I can return my Asus Eee Pad and put some extra cash and buy the Samsung Galaxy Tab
Benefits I see is
1) looks (again, for me that means clients will be happy with the display f their site)
2) lighter
3) smaller
4) better screen colors
Has anybody switched to the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 from the Asus Eee Pad Transformer
If so, why? How's the experience so far?

Have you bothered researching the Tab dock? From what I've seen, it's buggy and not great. It doesn't fold, as I understand it, so it's two separate pieces unless docked. And, personally, I think it looks stupid. It's wider than the Tab itself, it's white against the Tab's black, and it lacks a trackpad (not necessary for a touchscreen, but it has convenience). And you'll be dropping another $100 just to switch to the Tab of the same capacity, assuming you have a 32gb TF. Plus you need to buy the dock. And as it has no battery, it's actually going to decrease your battery life to use it by drawing power from the Tab. In your own terms, if a website looks great to the buyer but doesn't work right, is that better or worse than a (still great looking) website of a different design that does everything right? And has twice the battery life? Websites run on batteries these days, right?
I say stay with Asus.
Edit: Good review here: androidpolice.com/2011/08/04/samsung-galaxy-tab-10-1-keyboard-dock-review-video/. Looks like you'll also miss out on expanded connectivity, and you'll be switching your input method every time you undock if you don't normally use the stock soft keyboard.
Man, the Galaxy Tab keyboard sucks on all fronts! They've got advertising dollars, but they should put some quality behind them or they risk doing the Apple thing and just end up selling a logo. Which they don't even have.

Well the keyboard DOES has an option to connect a Samsung USB extension
So really the only thing we would be missing is the battery
Let's say the website works great (good programming)
I just feel I can get a extra hundred here and there, and everything helps
If the device looks awesome, man I think it will make me a few more sales here and there
Even if the keyboard is not as great, I think the lightness of the new tablet will bring a new benefit
I have the Asus Eee Pad and man I LOVE it, however I don't feel it's a tablet, because it's too heavy, so I will never read an ebook for example
There should be a Keyboard done by Asus that works with Samsung

So, what you're saying is, you already decided and just wanted to let everybody know that you were switching?
If you really want a keyboard, you could get a Bluetooth keyboard. Either way, I think it will be awkward to be lugging two pieces around and assembling them every time you want to use them. You can connect a Samsung extension to the tablet itself (it's the same connector). Plus the bugs reported by others, the resetting of the input preferences . . . . In the end, everything you're touting as being better is just personal preference anyway. If it's better for you then that's great.
If form is more important than function to you, get the Tab, or an iPad. It's your money.

You can't really ask us what you'll miss from the TF. You have to ask yourself that. Is battery life important to you? How bout a native keyboard dock that is actually efficient?
They're both great devices, but I really think the 10.1 is geared more towards fun, media, and a average user. The Transformer is also geared towards fun as well as business and a average/professional user.
If I was showing a client something, I think the Transformer would make a better impression just because of it's look alone, it looks professional..the 10.1 has more of a playful look to me.

A couple of thoughts for the OP:
If it's about showing sites to clients, is the keyboard going to really be used ? Or are you looking for it to operate as a stand? Or just as a port for a mouse?
If you're developing mobile/tablet-friendly websites (which makes a lot of sense these days), then I'd say let them hold the tablet and experience the site that way.
IMO, one particular tablet isn't going to be responsible for a dramatic increase in sales over any other tablet. What you're really after is what the setup says about you and how seeing it all together makes them, and more importantly, you feel.
I'm biased, but to me an Android tablet would say to a customer that you're pretty tech savvy and wanted to go against the iPad flow. While the Gtab arguably looks more stylish, you could make an argument that the TF is a more considered purchase.
At the end of the day, it's all about how you choose to spin it.
And, echoing one of the previous posters, if you've already decided to switch and want to make the switch, do it. That setup obviously makes you feel better -- that will create more sales than any device that you happen to trot out.
Best of luck!

I want to say I changed the Asus Eee Pad for the Galaxy Tab 10.1
Couldn't be happier about my choice
If the Asus Eee Pad would weight the same as the Galaxy Tab, it would be perfect
but with that weight even though it's well built, it's just too heavy to hold it and read an eBook for example

I'm trying to decide between these two tabs right now,
I originally dismissed the asus because it was older, we know the problems are weight (not the thickness as i nearly snapped my friends ipad)
but the asus is uglier, sharper and its screen doesnt look as nice (could really do with a goldilocks point between hyper saturation and the current screen)
oh and the prime, but that is out of my price range anyway

The ASUS Transformer Pad Infinity Thread

Since there isn't a TPI forum (yet), I thought we should have a thread to discuss all issues related to the Infinity. News/announcements, release dates, spec changes, etc. So here we go.
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What are the implications of the improved screen resolution? Someone mentioned eBooks... obviously 1080p movies. Other ideas?

Ughh... I know the new back plate is appose to help with the wifi, GPS, issue for those suffering from it. Personally i am not but that new back plate i think is yucky compared to the current.
But the higher resolution does grab my attention.

I think this will be unnecessary upgrades for the most part.
Resolution your eyes will barely notice.
Different cpu thats slightly improved.
plastic panel so it will actually work.
Everything else is practically the same.

The question is will it blend! At least if you are a original Prime owner and want a the new model when it arrives. The current dock will work with the TF-700. One less thing you have to buy i guess.

Vcolassi said:
The question is will it blend! At least if you are a original Prime owner and want a the new model when it arrives the dock the new TF-700 will fit in it. One less thing you have to buy i guess.
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One of the press releases said it'll come in Amethyst and Champagne Gold.

Yes, it should blend. I am hoping so, my dock is non-returnable so I'll keep it for the Infinity.

****ing_lukin said:
What are the implications of the improved screen resolution? Someone mentioned eBooks... obviously 1080p movies. Other ideas?
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For me, remote desktop using native Res, and movies

Lolento said:
For me, remote desktop using native Res, and movies
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But my icons would be so small! I need lower resolution so that my fats fingers can tap the icons. Sorry, I don't want to hijack the thread.

I wonder if the full HD resolution has any upside if you don't plan on watching a ton of movies on it? Wouldn't the text be much smaller, obviously. I can't see the resolution helping youtube videos out much being most of the HD ones are in 720p. I dunno if that made sense lol.

Reading text is a huge benefit. Big docs done in Word and Excel will also be much easier to read and manage with a higher resolution screen. If your video library is done in 1080P/MKV not only with they look better they'll play better because they'll no longer have to downscaled buy the GPU and s/w to fit a lower res screen.

****ing_lukin said:
But my icons would be so small! I need lower resolution so that my fats fingers can tap the icons. Sorry, I don't want to hijack the thread.
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I agree with that! I have a Galaxy Note with a 1280x800 on a 5.3" screen i believe. And the icons are small!

Vcolassi said:
I agree with that! I have a Galaxy Note with a 1280x800 on a 5.3" screen i believe. And the icons are small!
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If you look at the pics and video of the TF700 and Acer A700 the UI seems to scale up so it seems that icons and such will be the same size. In-app icons and navigation buttons would be smaller I'd imagine.

BarryH_GEG said:
If you look at the pics and video of the TF700 and Acer A700 the UI seems to scale up so it seems that icons and such will be the same size. In-app icons and navigation buttons would be smaller I'd imagine.
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Gotcha, makes sense. When is the 700 due for release in the USA. June? Id gladly hold onto my Prime for 2-3 months and sell it a few weeks before it arrives "IF... i decided on it". Im sure there will be plenty of vids on youtube of people over in Europe that get their hands on it first to test soon. This way i can decide is it really worth it.

Since the Prime is mentioned as being "for early adopters," one wonders then if other models--being more mainstream--will have bootloader unlock. Somebody should ask Gary Key.

e.mote said:
Since the Prime is mentioned as being "for early adopters," one wonders then if other models--being more mainstream--will have bootloader unlock. Somebody should ask Gary Key.
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The 300 should.. It was in the build prop as transformer tf201x lite....
I imagine they have it setup with the updates that it would change the necessary things between tablets... Just like changing the few things from us build to WW build
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Hopefully we'll start seeing these puppies for sale in June

The date of the availability of the Infinity is very important.
It should replace the TF201 and the 300 series should replace the TF101.
I expect the same range of prices of the actual products.
In terms of diferences between Prime and Infinity, the improvement of the Wifi and GPS with the plastic part on top of the pad should be main thing.
The screen resolution wil not benefit for 95% of the users.

nunoloule said:
It(the Infinity) should replace the TF201 and the 300 series should replace the TF101.
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That would make a lot more sense than keeping the 4 products on the market. Probably this will be the long term goal.

nunoloule said:
The screen resolution wil not benefit for 95% of the users.
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Funny, on what grounds do you say that the resolution wont benefit 95% of the users.
If thats the case then they should have just kept 1024x600 till now

[Q] is Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus a good Tablet?

I willing to buy this tablet but i have some questions:
1- How is the battery life?
2- Is the screen to small for reading, movies and games ?
3- How is the resolution and clarity of text?
4- any common problem that faced veteran users

Please answer quickly because i am going to buy this tablet tomorrow

I greatly like this tablet though it is my first tablet.
1. Very good and even better when you tweak certain things in for your general use.
2. Movies are fine, reading is fine and I use it often, games are great also comparability is on the low side of things though.
3.Resolution is fine. It has a dpi of 160 and that's nothing to sneeze at.
4. Common problem are SOD's and the lack of source code for the tablet. (SOD is the sleep of death which is when you turn off the screen and it freezes) those are the two things that stand out to me.

mohamedawad said:
I willing to buy this tablet but i have some questions:
1- How is the battery life?
2- Is the screen to small for reading, movies and games ?
3- How is the resolution and clarity of text?
4- any common problem that faced veteran users
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1. slightly above average (of 7" tablets)
2. personally, I think its a perfect size.
3. it's "okay." Not great, but not the worst I've seen.
4. quite a few people have experienced problems called "sleep of death" - which basically means the tablet appears dead with the screen off... the only way to recover is press/hold the power button until the tablet reboots. A handful have had issues with corrupted flash memory that rendered the tablet useless. There have also been reports of wifi issues.
Gary

Thank you guys, that was really helpful

no, its just not snappy, the resolution and display quality is poor, battery life (and more importantly: battery life management) is poor.
unfortunately, apple hasnt produced a 7" ipad... cuz that would be a better choice
i have GN as my phone, so i support the android platform. its just that this tablet isnt very fun to use. ICS may change that... buts its a longing hope that'll wont get raelied

Wow, that isn't even remotely close to the truth. Do you even own one? The Tab Plus is easily the fastest and the nicest built seven incher on the market.

robyr said:
Wow, that isn't even remotely close to the truth. Do you even own one? The Tab Plus is easily the fastest and the nicest built seven incher on the market.
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It's more responsive without Touchwiz, though. But it's still faster than the original 10.1, which was rather sluggish on the TW launcher.

robyr said:
Wow, that isn't even remotely close to the truth. Do you even own one? The Tab Plus is easily the fastest and the nicest built seven incher on the market.
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now what possible incentive do i have for not expressing the truth?
it may be the best 7" tablet on the market, but that only speaks to the dearth of good tablets in that space. it does not make the 7GT+ a good tablet per se.
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and whats with the default browser trying to dim the screen compared to the rest of the environment? utter bunk.
and the fact that certain apps are not available on 3.x. i have nice magazine readers and browsers on my phone... but want to use it on the tab? no go

I love my tablet, though I only slightly somewhat regret not waiting for the 7.7. Basically the same tablet with a Verizon connection that I'd never use, but with a lot nicer screen. However, I was able to get my 7+ for $270 of eBay, and the 7.7 I probably would have to pay full retail at almost $400 more. I like having cutting edge products that I hold onto forever, but I'm not sure the nicer screen is with that kind of premium in price.

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no, its just not snappy, the resolution and display quality is poor, battery life (and more importantly: battery life management) is poor.
unfortunately, apple hasnt produced a 7" ipad... cuz that would be a better choice
i have GN as my phone, so i support the android platform. its just that this tablet isnt very fun to use. ICS may change that... buts its a longing hope that'll wont get raelied
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Are you sure you are talking about the right tablet?

Love it, expect ICS to make it even better, and I have no "death sleep" issues, but then I have a refurbished one so maybe they fixed it.
For $275 only thing I know even close is the slower Best Buy version for $250.

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I willing to buy this tablet but i have some questions:
1- How is the battery life?
2- Is the screen to small for reading, movies and games ?
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1 - I've not had an issue with battery life, using it all day at work then reading before bed. I charge it at night, and I also prefer a very low screen brightness.
2 - I've read 4 novels in the 6 weeks I've owned it. It's maybe a tad small for comics but works OK. I don't have much opportunity to watch movies on it. I do like to use it as a 2nd/3rd screen to run youtube video, video podcasts, or a TV episode while doing something else on my computer.
3 - Text clarity is fine. I use Aldiko for reading and have the font set to Molengo set at 16 it looks great and is very comfortable for me to read.
4 - Not sure what is meant, I'm a veteran technology user and this is my first Android device. With that in mind the biggest issue I have with the device is that after an extended web browsing session it will heat up on the upper left side of the tablet. Also the tablet is picky about power, you will have to use the factory adapter or go out of your way to find a workaround to charge the device.
Overall I'm very satisfied. I think I would also have been satisfied with the 2 version vs the plus. I really love the form factor, the sd slot is handy, and it has good overall performance.

Where do we use the high Resolution?

Internet sites are the same. I dont see more real estate nor do I see in Facebook or other apps. I thought websites would be the same just like My 1920x1200 monitor. If that is so, what is the use of hi-rez on tablets?
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Cleaner and sharper images and text.
Which makes it more comfortable to read for a longer period for example.
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They wouldn't design it so that it looks like it would on a desktop. That isn't usability to anyone to have a ton of white space on a website. They utilize the screen as much as possible. It mainly means cleaner text (not being able to see pixels) and being able to play HD content. Outside of that, you won't see that many use cases for the extra high Res screen. Same as the new iPad.
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games look even more badass=)

1080p anime.
I got b& at /g/ for sh!tposting ;_;

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Internet sites are the same. I dont see more real estate nor do I see in Facebook or other apps. I thought websites would be the same just like My 1920x1200 monitor. If that is so, what is the use of hi-rez on tablets?
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The purpose is better is cleaner picture quality.
Android is mostly resolution independent by design(this is a good thing). This allows display elements to be the proper size no matter what resolution the device is. However, if you want more screen real estate then you should adjust the lcd density in Android.
To give you an idea, the TF700 is lcd density 240 while the TF201 is 160.
If you changed the lcd density to 160 then you would see much much more real estate.
This can be changed by any number of apps or by modifying your /system/build.prop file. I don't know of anyway to change this without root.

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1080p anime.
I got b& at /g/ for sh!tposting ;_;
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I see what you did there.
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HD pr0n

I just used Splashtop HD on the 700 today to connect to my desktop and for the first time I realized the benefit of the increase in resolution.
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Pornography looks much more natural in full HD. Also, crisper text makes it easier to spot trolls and sh*tposters.

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Pornography looks much more natural in full HD. Also, crisper text makes it easier to spot trolls and sh*tposters.
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this thread is getting funny

now when I attach my Transformer to my HDTV, my HDTV sees a 1080p connection and displays ICS in high resolution. Before when I had the Prime the 720p was just not up to snuff over HDMI with my LED HDTV.

ZankerH said:
Pornography looks much more natural in full HD. Also, crisper text makes it easier to spot trolls and sh*tposters.
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However, I don't like the scenes where you previously couldn't really discern shaving errors or pieces of **** or strings of ass hair or boob job scarring or worse while you now get to witness that up close and rather personal in glorious full HD resolution. Also, previously, I'd never imagine ducking away during a train commute to evade the threatening physical consequences of an on-screen "finishing move" --- glad this is not a 3D screen.
EDIT: in this regard, there is no tangible advantage in having crisper text and such, since this filmic genre usually lacks relevant subtitling.
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will hand writing text on the FHD screen make a difference?

For seeing high resolution movie.
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watching 1080p movies
reading sharp text
sharp photos and need to zoom in to choose the best photo
games really look better
and at the end why not
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I will reiterate the sharper text but add another perspective. The sharper text may not seem like a big deal, yet once you are use to it, it is hard to go back. Heck for the first time i am even looking into hi rez laptops.
Many ipad 3 users will say the same thing about ipad 2.

Its kinda like asking why people get HDTVs and dont stick with the old CRT screens.
Personally, I got it mainly for the higher resolution, albeit significantly more light bleed and other issues. I had the TF300, and Acer A500, and others before hand with no similar issues.
All for the same reason that I got my laptop with a 1080p 120hx 3D display. Things just look better.
My only real complaint when it comes to the higher res, if the galaxy on fire game has smaller controls, and gets a little annoying. lol

jdeoxys said:
I got b& at /g/ for sh!tposting ;_;
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