This is my first tablet and I've always stored my backups on an external card, so using the internal memory on the 300 brings up some questions.
When flashing a rom and wiping data, will that wipe the folders and app data on the internal memory?
Is it best to keep TWRP and Rom Toolbox (app) backups on the external SD card?
I could be wrong here, but before flashing a new (testing AOKP and CM10), I did the 'factory reset' in twrp, as I would normally wipe data & cache before flashing a new rom on my other devices... but it appears that twrp doesn't completely wipe the data partition and some of the app data was still there. Am I wrong or does twrp not touch the internal memory, other than whats in the 'data' folder?
FWIW, I'm doing twrp backups on my SD card, but RTB app backups on internal... but if flashing a new rom will wipe the RTB folder from internal memory, I'll have to start backing up to the SD.
thx for any help/advice.
beepea206 said:
When flashing a rom and wiping data, will that wipe the folders and app data on the internal memory?
Is it best to keep TWRP and Rom Toolbox (app) backups on the external SD card?
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I think the wipe doesn't touch either the internal or external SD cards. At least that's been my experience with CWM.
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Want to install cynogen mod from my SD card using rom manager, but want to know if this will wipe my SD card? Also, will it wipe my SMS's? I have backed up my SMS's using SMS back up, but if it wipes my SD, it will wipe that app aswell I presume?
Searched everywhere for an answer to this
thanks
prawnguevara said:
Want to install cynogen mod from my SD card using rom manager, but want to know if this will wipe my SD card? Also, will it wipe my SMS's? I have backed up my SMS's using SMS back up, but if it wipes my SD, it will wipe that app aswell I presume?
Searched everywhere for an answer to this
thanks
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No, flashing a new rom will not wipe your SD card.
It will wipe your
/data en /cache section
So only your apps and data of the apps
But not the whole SD Card.
No
It will wipe the old os and all of your contacts
the fise system will not be interacted or changed. Therefore your files will be safe
If I have a backup on the internal sd card, when wipe data before flashing a rom, will that delete my nandroid backups? Don't know if I should backup my roms to internal storage or external.
Wipe data won't delete your nandroids on the internal but Odin a stock ROM and you will loose them... all of them.
I now backup on a weekly basis and transfer what need to extSD when I'm thinking of doing something potentially dumb.
Farabomb said:
Wipe data won't delete your nandroids on the internal but Odin a stock ROM and you will loose them... all of them.
I now backup on a weekly basis and transfer what need to extSD when I'm thinking of doing something potentially dumb.
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okay cool thanks. Just wanted to make sure it doesn't delete after wiping data.
Farabomb said:
I now backup on a weekly basis and transfer what need to extSD when I'm thinking of doing something potentially dumb.
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LOL at "potentially dumb".
Couldn't have put it any better myself. I use the same procedure, I make a weekly nandroid to the internal storage & then copy the backups to both my 64gig card & also to my PC occasionally.
I can't make a nandroid directly to my 64 gig card as I won't format it to FAT32 because of some of the restrictions of FAT32.
tu3218 said:
If I have a backup on the internal sd card, when wipe data before flashing a rom, will that delete my nandroid backups? Don't know if I should backup my roms to internal storage or external.
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No put them where ever you want.
Farabomb said:
Wipe data won't delete your nandroids on the internal but Odin a stock ROM and you will loose them... all of them.
I now backup on a weekly basis and transfer what need to extSD when I'm thinking of doing something potentially dumb.
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Not true...IF you wipe data/factory reset from stock recovery, it reformats the whole internal sd card(everything is wiped). Now if you wipe data from cwm recovery, then no nandroids are not deleted. Also odin does not wipe internal sd either...again you have to boot into stock recovery and wipe data/factory reset to reformat internal sd. I still always back my nandroids up to external sd, just incase my internal ever corrupts, I wont lose them!
droidstyle said:
Not true...IF you wipe data/factory reset from stock recovery, it reformats the whole internal sd card(everything is wiped). Now if you wipe data from cwm recovery, then no nandroids are not deleted. Also odin does not wipe internal sd either...again you have to boot into stock recovery and wipe data/factory reset to reformat internal sd. I still always back my nandroids up to external sd, just incase my internal ever corrupts, I wont lose them!
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Ahh yeah, that makes sense. That's how it was on my nexus with being just internal storage and nandroids never were deleted. Thanks for the clarification.
droidstyle said:
Not true...IF you wipe data/factory reset from stock recovery, it reformats the whole internal sd card(everything is wiped). Now if you wipe data from cwm recovery, then no nandroids are not deleted. Also odin does not wipe internal sd either...again you have to boot into stock recovery and wipe data/factory reset to reformat internal sd. I still always back my nandroids up to external sd, just incase my internal ever corrupts, I wont lose them!
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There's something in Odin that wipes it because when I used it to go back to stock it wiped mine...
Either way though, backup your nandroids to your ext card... saves you all the hassle lol
Does not erase backups unless they are stored internally by default
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I can see the stock recovery wiping it but since the OP used the term nandroid I assumed CWM. Good to know the stock wipes it clean if there is ever a time I have to send it back.
I had an issue back before we were unlocked and when I ODINed back to stock all the internal SD was wiped. Wasn't too pleased but my fault for not backing up.
Sidenote about backing up. I tend to backup the entire internal and external SD every Sunday. The app I use for backup doesn't see the S3 as a media device so I can't use it to make incremental backups. Is there any program that would do that? I use karens replicator for backup btw. That's the one that doesn't work.
I need to clear it - I made "wipe data/factory reset" in stock ICS recovery menu - is it going to cause deleting ROM (and reboot will make brick) OR just wil get it back to clean factory ROM?
I found few threads here about "wipe data"-thing, but it seems to me, that every version of Android / custom ROM / recovery type could behave different.
My device is Thinkpad Lenovo tablet (rooted) with Android 4.0.3..my apology by writing in here, but I'm a newbie on this forum and that's why I can't write in some threads, including more relevant ones.
Bumerank said:
I need to clear it - I made "wipe data/factory reset" in stock ICS recovery menu - is it going to cause deleting ROM (and reboot will make brick) OR just wil get it back to clean factory ROM?
I found few threads here about "wipe data"-thing, but it seems to me, that every version of Android / custom ROM / recovery type could behave different.
My device is Thinkpad Lenovo tablet (rooted) with Android 4.0.3..my apology by writing in here, but I'm a newbie on this forum and that's why I can't write in some threads, including more relevant ones.
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Well, in the recovery for our device that would just wipe the data and not the ROM. I use TWRP
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Good morning, I'm here to do some questions about the nandroid backup.
Fist of all I'm using rashed's cm10.1.5 with halo and I have s2e installed and all running smoothly. I also have Clockwork 5.Now the questions.
1- Can I do a nandroid backup from my clockwork? Do I have to install something? Or something like that? What is the easy way to make a backup of my data?
2- In case I decide to change the rom, can I get my app back with my nandroid backup? How?
3- Will my ext partition in the sd work like before? I mean if the nandroid backup will restore my s2e, my app in the ext partition and the script or it will show an error because the appdata will take more space than the free space in the phone. For example I have my ext part with 400mb occupied. So I do a nandroid backup. When I'm going to restore it, it will restore to te ext, or to the phone?
3- I think this is not number free but number 6534532, and it's a noob (very nooooob) question. I always have trouble when a zip says "flash it from recovery" or "Install it from recovery" and all that options. How I know when I have to choose "Install ZIP from sd card" or "Install UPDATE from sd card"? what is the difference? -because I think that I have half bricked (bootloops, stuck in logo) a lot of times because from this. Thanks from now.
And please forgive my english, my noobing and the big number of questions.
1. Yes you can do a nandroid backup from CWM
2. As CWM backups all the data i.e settings,Google accounts but AFAIK you may lose the apps which were on SDcard
If all apps are on internal memory then you will not lose them (If you want, you can backup all your apps with MyBackup Root)
3. SDext partition has been a hit-and-miss for me on CWM
It did not restore my sdext backup sometimes and when it did, the ROM boot looped
TWRP is the best for wiping/backup/restoring SDext backup
6534532. Choose Install ZIP from SD card.
Install update from SD card means it flashes /sdcard/update.zip from SD card if it exists
Always use 'Install zip'
akiratoriyama said:
1. Yes you can do a nandroid backup from CWM
2. As CWM backups all the data i.e settings,Google accounts but AFAIK you may lose the apps which were on SDcard
If all apps are on internal memory then you will not lose them (If you want, you can backup all your apps with MyBackup Root)
3. SDext partition has been a hit-and-miss for me on CWM
It did not restore my sdext backup sometimes and when it did, the ROM boot looped
TWRP is the best for wiping/backup/restoring SDext backup
6534532. Choose Install ZIP from SD card.
Install update from SD card means it flashes /sdcard/update.zip from SD card if it exists
Always use 'Install zip'
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mmm The bakcup save the app in the phone. But how about the symlinks that are created in the phone that directs to the ext? It will backup the app anyway in the ext or only will backup the "Link"?
Another question. The Dalvik cache is important? Because I can move all the app to the phone, but if I move the app, the app data and the dalvik cache all that get bigger than my internal memory, but if I move only the app and the app data it fits perfectly. So can i backup the app and the data only and wipe the dalvikcache?
Dalvik cache is not important while backing up
AFAIK SDext backup saves the links only
But I have limited knowledge on SDext backups
Asking @ibub @Junior Einstein and @shinobisoft
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I think I'll move all the app and the appdata to internal memory and then do the backup. So all the app and the data will be saved. And after flashing rom y will put it. But the dalvik cache i'll leave in the sdext. So it will be erased, but i was thinking it doens't matter, but I wanted an expert opinion, to aovid getting bootloops or have to reflash the rom 2 or 3 times or whatever problem can be found. Thanks a lot.
akiratoriyama said:
Dalvik cache is not important while backing up
AFAIK SDext backup saves the links only
But I have limited knowledge on SDext backups
Asking @ibub @Junior Einstein and @shinobisoft
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The backups, for any partition, besides cache and dalvik cache, are exact duplicate images of the partition(s). Comparable to that of an ISO image for the PC.
akiratoriyama said:
Dalvik cache is not important while backing up
AFAIK SDext backup saves the links only
But I have limited knowledge on SDext backups
Asking @ibub @Junior Einstein and @shinobisoft
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If you choose to backup both sd-ext and the data then the apps symlinked to the sd-ext will be restored on restoring from the clockwork recovery...
Hit thanks if i helped you.. !
I am use to working with phones that have a removable SD-Card. Since our Note 5 does not have a micro card slot, I have a question.
Using TWRP, when I do a nandroid backup it obviously backs up to the phone SD. If I do a FULL wipe via TWRP (system / data / user / cache) wont it also delete my TWRP backup file located in ..mnt/sdcard/TWRP ?? normally I would backup to the removable SD Card and just format / wipe the internal memory and safely have my nandroid backup on the removable stick for future recovery.
Please advise ??
Also what about a full DATA wipe (/media/data/..) is that safe ?
Thanks
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Thibor69 said:
I am use to working with phones that have a removable SD-Card. Since our Note 5 does not have a micro card slot, I have a question.
Using TWRP, when I do a nandroid backup it obviously backs up to the phone SD. If I do a FULL wipe via TWRP (system / data / user / cache) wont it also delete my TWRP backup file located in ..mnt/sdcard/TWRP ?? normally I would backup to the removable SD Card and just format / wipe the internal memory and safely have my nandroid backup on the removable stick for future recovery.
Please advise ??
Also what about a full DATA wipe (/media/data/..) is that safe ?
Thanks
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It only wipes internal sdcard if you select that option in twrp.
Wiping system,data,cache and dalvik does not wipe internal sdcard.
If you want to wipe internal sdcard you need to select the option separately.
Good luck,
Have a great day!
Misterjunky said:
It only wipes internal sdcard if you select that option in twrp.
Wiping system,data,cache and dalvik does not wipe internal sdcard.
If you want to wipe internal sdcard you need to select the option separately.
Good luck,
Have a great day!
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Ok ... I am use to checking all the tick boxes so my device is truly clean and all stuff erased. Since twrp was on external SD there was no issues, but now I guess I could just put the nandroid backup onto a flash drive via OTG, then I could wipe entire internal and restore from external by mounting the external device huh .. how about if I chose format data ( /media/data/.. ) is internal safe then also ?
Thanks !
Hi, i have an htc m7 and as you know it's got no sd card slot. Now if i browse the internal storage i see a folder named sdcard when all my data is stored. If i wipe data in twrp before flashing, after installing the rom, the data wont get deleted. This time i wanto to delete all data on the sdcard, what option do i choose? Do i select internal storage before wiping? I want to reinstall the rom on a clean phone, without finding my data still there. Thanks