Good morning, I'm here to do some questions about the nandroid backup.
Fist of all I'm using rashed's cm10.1.5 with halo and I have s2e installed and all running smoothly. I also have Clockwork 5.Now the questions.
1- Can I do a nandroid backup from my clockwork? Do I have to install something? Or something like that? What is the easy way to make a backup of my data?
2- In case I decide to change the rom, can I get my app back with my nandroid backup? How?
3- Will my ext partition in the sd work like before? I mean if the nandroid backup will restore my s2e, my app in the ext partition and the script or it will show an error because the appdata will take more space than the free space in the phone. For example I have my ext part with 400mb occupied. So I do a nandroid backup. When I'm going to restore it, it will restore to te ext, or to the phone?
3- I think this is not number free but number 6534532, and it's a noob (very nooooob) question. I always have trouble when a zip says "flash it from recovery" or "Install it from recovery" and all that options. How I know when I have to choose "Install ZIP from sd card" or "Install UPDATE from sd card"? what is the difference? -because I think that I have half bricked (bootloops, stuck in logo) a lot of times because from this. Thanks from now.
And please forgive my english, my noobing and the big number of questions.
1. Yes you can do a nandroid backup from CWM
2. As CWM backups all the data i.e settings,Google accounts but AFAIK you may lose the apps which were on SDcard
If all apps are on internal memory then you will not lose them (If you want, you can backup all your apps with MyBackup Root)
3. SDext partition has been a hit-and-miss for me on CWM
It did not restore my sdext backup sometimes and when it did, the ROM boot looped
TWRP is the best for wiping/backup/restoring SDext backup
6534532. Choose Install ZIP from SD card.
Install update from SD card means it flashes /sdcard/update.zip from SD card if it exists
Always use 'Install zip'
akiratoriyama said:
1. Yes you can do a nandroid backup from CWM
2. As CWM backups all the data i.e settings,Google accounts but AFAIK you may lose the apps which were on SDcard
If all apps are on internal memory then you will not lose them (If you want, you can backup all your apps with MyBackup Root)
3. SDext partition has been a hit-and-miss for me on CWM
It did not restore my sdext backup sometimes and when it did, the ROM boot looped
TWRP is the best for wiping/backup/restoring SDext backup
6534532. Choose Install ZIP from SD card.
Install update from SD card means it flashes /sdcard/update.zip from SD card if it exists
Always use 'Install zip'
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mmm The bakcup save the app in the phone. But how about the symlinks that are created in the phone that directs to the ext? It will backup the app anyway in the ext or only will backup the "Link"?
Another question. The Dalvik cache is important? Because I can move all the app to the phone, but if I move the app, the app data and the dalvik cache all that get bigger than my internal memory, but if I move only the app and the app data it fits perfectly. So can i backup the app and the data only and wipe the dalvikcache?
Dalvik cache is not important while backing up
AFAIK SDext backup saves the links only
But I have limited knowledge on SDext backups
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I think I'll move all the app and the appdata to internal memory and then do the backup. So all the app and the data will be saved. And after flashing rom y will put it. But the dalvik cache i'll leave in the sdext. So it will be erased, but i was thinking it doens't matter, but I wanted an expert opinion, to aovid getting bootloops or have to reflash the rom 2 or 3 times or whatever problem can be found. Thanks a lot.
akiratoriyama said:
Dalvik cache is not important while backing up
AFAIK SDext backup saves the links only
But I have limited knowledge on SDext backups
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The backups, for any partition, besides cache and dalvik cache, are exact duplicate images of the partition(s). Comparable to that of an ISO image for the PC.
akiratoriyama said:
Dalvik cache is not important while backing up
AFAIK SDext backup saves the links only
But I have limited knowledge on SDext backups
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If you choose to backup both sd-ext and the data then the apps symlinked to the sd-ext will be restored on restoring from the clockwork recovery...
Hit thanks if i helped you.. !
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Do you need to back up apps found in link2sd with titanium backup if you want to restore it after flashing a new rom?? I mean its already in the sd card so do i need to back it up? Any help would be appreciated!!
Yes, you still need to back up your apps. The files in the 2nd partition will probably get wiped if you flash your phone and the links on the internal memory will definitely get wiped.
Easy steps:
backup your apps & data with titanium
flash and install new ROM
[preferably] change setting so that all apps are installed to internal memory
install link2sd and install script. Reboot.
restore apps from Titanium. Note: if you run out of internal memory while Titanium is reinstalling all your old apps, it will proceed to install the remaining apps on your SD using a2sd.
androidlover123 said:
Do you need to back up apps found in link2sd with titanium backup if you want to restore it after flashing a new rom?? I mean its already in the sd card so do i need to back it up? Any help would be appreciated!!
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Another reason to do it via backup is that if you're using link2sd's dalvik-cache linking, the optimized dalvik may not match the new ROM. For example, I'm not sure I would wouldn't want to take optimized dalvik generated on a JIT-enabled 2.1 and run it on a 2.2.1 system or vice versa.
jayarmstrong said:
Yes, you still need to back up your apps. The files in the 2nd partition will probably get wiped if you flash your phone and the links on the internal memory will definitely get wiped.
Easy steps:
backup your apps & data with titanium
flash and install new ROM
[preferably] change setting so that all apps are installed to internal memory
install link2sd and install script. Reboot.
restore apps from Titanium. Note: if you run out of internal memory while Titanium is reinstalling all your old apps, it will proceed to install the remaining apps on your SD using a2sd.
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What do you mean by "install script" in the 4th step ? Titanium Backup's Backup / Restore is so confusing with Link2SD
Thanks
optimusodd said:
What do you mean by "install script" in the 4th step ? Titanium Backup's Backup / Restore is so confusing with Link2SD
Thanks
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Sorry, but that was so long ago I don't recall any of the details.
jayarmstrong said:
Sorry, but that was so long ago I don't recall any of the details.
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Haha yeah it's been almost 5 years
Anyway I have resolved the "Link2SD +TB" backup and restore issue.
Thanks for taking your time to reply.Cheers!!
Hi
I usually using different Roms and should do full wipe and lose my data !
Is there any app to make back up to external storage ???
Thanks
Backup with nandroid, copy it to your sd card? Works fine 4 me..
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Titanium backup, worth every penny
There is default backup app that backups data to SD card.
alfa7d said:
Hi
I usually using different Roms and should do full wipe and lose my data !
Is there any app to make back up to external storage ???
Thanks
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Set the Titanium backup directory to /Removable/MicroSD/TitaniumBackup (selecting a directory is not user friendly, use back key to up one directory).
ARHD offers Super_Wide_Lite that does not delete /sdcard partition, it is not fun to backup 10GB of data.
sorry posted in the wrong thread..deleted.
This is my first tablet and I've always stored my backups on an external card, so using the internal memory on the 300 brings up some questions.
When flashing a rom and wiping data, will that wipe the folders and app data on the internal memory?
Is it best to keep TWRP and Rom Toolbox (app) backups on the external SD card?
I could be wrong here, but before flashing a new (testing AOKP and CM10), I did the 'factory reset' in twrp, as I would normally wipe data & cache before flashing a new rom on my other devices... but it appears that twrp doesn't completely wipe the data partition and some of the app data was still there. Am I wrong or does twrp not touch the internal memory, other than whats in the 'data' folder?
FWIW, I'm doing twrp backups on my SD card, but RTB app backups on internal... but if flashing a new rom will wipe the RTB folder from internal memory, I'll have to start backing up to the SD.
thx for any help/advice.
beepea206 said:
When flashing a rom and wiping data, will that wipe the folders and app data on the internal memory?
Is it best to keep TWRP and Rom Toolbox (app) backups on the external SD card?
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I think the wipe doesn't touch either the internal or external SD cards. At least that's been my experience with CWM.
If I have a backup on the internal sd card, when wipe data before flashing a rom, will that delete my nandroid backups? Don't know if I should backup my roms to internal storage or external.
Wipe data won't delete your nandroids on the internal but Odin a stock ROM and you will loose them... all of them.
I now backup on a weekly basis and transfer what need to extSD when I'm thinking of doing something potentially dumb.
Farabomb said:
Wipe data won't delete your nandroids on the internal but Odin a stock ROM and you will loose them... all of them.
I now backup on a weekly basis and transfer what need to extSD when I'm thinking of doing something potentially dumb.
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okay cool thanks. Just wanted to make sure it doesn't delete after wiping data.
Farabomb said:
I now backup on a weekly basis and transfer what need to extSD when I'm thinking of doing something potentially dumb.
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LOL at "potentially dumb".
Couldn't have put it any better myself. I use the same procedure, I make a weekly nandroid to the internal storage & then copy the backups to both my 64gig card & also to my PC occasionally.
I can't make a nandroid directly to my 64 gig card as I won't format it to FAT32 because of some of the restrictions of FAT32.
tu3218 said:
If I have a backup on the internal sd card, when wipe data before flashing a rom, will that delete my nandroid backups? Don't know if I should backup my roms to internal storage or external.
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No put them where ever you want.
Farabomb said:
Wipe data won't delete your nandroids on the internal but Odin a stock ROM and you will loose them... all of them.
I now backup on a weekly basis and transfer what need to extSD when I'm thinking of doing something potentially dumb.
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Not true...IF you wipe data/factory reset from stock recovery, it reformats the whole internal sd card(everything is wiped). Now if you wipe data from cwm recovery, then no nandroids are not deleted. Also odin does not wipe internal sd either...again you have to boot into stock recovery and wipe data/factory reset to reformat internal sd. I still always back my nandroids up to external sd, just incase my internal ever corrupts, I wont lose them!
droidstyle said:
Not true...IF you wipe data/factory reset from stock recovery, it reformats the whole internal sd card(everything is wiped). Now if you wipe data from cwm recovery, then no nandroids are not deleted. Also odin does not wipe internal sd either...again you have to boot into stock recovery and wipe data/factory reset to reformat internal sd. I still always back my nandroids up to external sd, just incase my internal ever corrupts, I wont lose them!
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Ahh yeah, that makes sense. That's how it was on my nexus with being just internal storage and nandroids never were deleted. Thanks for the clarification.
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Not true...IF you wipe data/factory reset from stock recovery, it reformats the whole internal sd card(everything is wiped). Now if you wipe data from cwm recovery, then no nandroids are not deleted. Also odin does not wipe internal sd either...again you have to boot into stock recovery and wipe data/factory reset to reformat internal sd. I still always back my nandroids up to external sd, just incase my internal ever corrupts, I wont lose them!
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There's something in Odin that wipes it because when I used it to go back to stock it wiped mine...
Either way though, backup your nandroids to your ext card... saves you all the hassle lol
Does not erase backups unless they are stored internally by default
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I can see the stock recovery wiping it but since the OP used the term nandroid I assumed CWM. Good to know the stock wipes it clean if there is ever a time I have to send it back.
I had an issue back before we were unlocked and when I ODINed back to stock all the internal SD was wiped. Wasn't too pleased but my fault for not backing up.
Sidenote about backing up. I tend to backup the entire internal and external SD every Sunday. The app I use for backup doesn't see the S3 as a media device so I can't use it to make incremental backups. Is there any program that would do that? I use karens replicator for backup btw. That's the one that doesn't work.
I need to clear it - I made "wipe data/factory reset" in stock ICS recovery menu - is it going to cause deleting ROM (and reboot will make brick) OR just wil get it back to clean factory ROM?
I found few threads here about "wipe data"-thing, but it seems to me, that every version of Android / custom ROM / recovery type could behave different.
My device is Thinkpad Lenovo tablet (rooted) with Android 4.0.3..my apology by writing in here, but I'm a newbie on this forum and that's why I can't write in some threads, including more relevant ones.
Bumerank said:
I need to clear it - I made "wipe data/factory reset" in stock ICS recovery menu - is it going to cause deleting ROM (and reboot will make brick) OR just wil get it back to clean factory ROM?
I found few threads here about "wipe data"-thing, but it seems to me, that every version of Android / custom ROM / recovery type could behave different.
My device is Thinkpad Lenovo tablet (rooted) with Android 4.0.3..my apology by writing in here, but I'm a newbie on this forum and that's why I can't write in some threads, including more relevant ones.
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Well, in the recovery for our device that would just wipe the data and not the ROM. I use TWRP
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I'm sorry for this very basic question. I've tried to read some thread, but I haven't understood if wipe data (CWM 6.0.1.0) deletes also the internal sd (music, download and so on) or not.
Thanks for your attention.
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In my experience..if you do full wipe/factory reset, it only reset or delete system file..
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I've read (but the thread wasn't about GT plus) that CWM wipes only system files and leaves all the user files in the internal sd. On the contrary, stock recovery and android factory reset should wipe the internal sd too.
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gabripranzo said:
I've read (but the thread wasn't about GT plus) that CWM wipes only system files and leaves all the user files in the internal sd. On the contrary, stock recovery and android factory reset should wipe the internal sd too.
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/data
Also called userdata, this partition contains the user data - and here that the contacts, messages, settings and applications that are installed by the user are saved. Erasing this partition is essentially performs the data recovery device to factory defaults, returning to the state it was in when the first restart, or after the installation of an official update or a custom ROM. When you run wipe data\factory reset is clear in practice this partition.
/sd card
This is not a partition on the internal flash of the device, but the SD card In terms of use, this is the storage space used to store media files, documents, etc ROM on it.
Delete this partition is completely safe, enough to have done before a backup of all data that affect on your computer. We must bear in mind that even different applications installed by the user save the data and settings on the SD card, and then delete this partition will make you lose all of these data.
If it is not directly selected "Format sd ", the internal memory will be deleted and the data such as photos, videos, backup, etc. will remain.
For cleaning system , enter Recovery Mode wipe data/factory reset , wipe cache partiton ,wipe dalvik cache,format /sdcard!