If I have a backup on the internal sd card, when wipe data before flashing a rom, will that delete my nandroid backups? Don't know if I should backup my roms to internal storage or external.
Wipe data won't delete your nandroids on the internal but Odin a stock ROM and you will loose them... all of them.
I now backup on a weekly basis and transfer what need to extSD when I'm thinking of doing something potentially dumb.
Farabomb said:
Wipe data won't delete your nandroids on the internal but Odin a stock ROM and you will loose them... all of them.
I now backup on a weekly basis and transfer what need to extSD when I'm thinking of doing something potentially dumb.
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okay cool thanks. Just wanted to make sure it doesn't delete after wiping data.
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I now backup on a weekly basis and transfer what need to extSD when I'm thinking of doing something potentially dumb.
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LOL at "potentially dumb".
Couldn't have put it any better myself. I use the same procedure, I make a weekly nandroid to the internal storage & then copy the backups to both my 64gig card & also to my PC occasionally.
I can't make a nandroid directly to my 64 gig card as I won't format it to FAT32 because of some of the restrictions of FAT32.
tu3218 said:
If I have a backup on the internal sd card, when wipe data before flashing a rom, will that delete my nandroid backups? Don't know if I should backup my roms to internal storage or external.
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No put them where ever you want.
Farabomb said:
Wipe data won't delete your nandroids on the internal but Odin a stock ROM and you will loose them... all of them.
I now backup on a weekly basis and transfer what need to extSD when I'm thinking of doing something potentially dumb.
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Not true...IF you wipe data/factory reset from stock recovery, it reformats the whole internal sd card(everything is wiped). Now if you wipe data from cwm recovery, then no nandroids are not deleted. Also odin does not wipe internal sd either...again you have to boot into stock recovery and wipe data/factory reset to reformat internal sd. I still always back my nandroids up to external sd, just incase my internal ever corrupts, I wont lose them!
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Not true...IF you wipe data/factory reset from stock recovery, it reformats the whole internal sd card(everything is wiped). Now if you wipe data from cwm recovery, then no nandroids are not deleted. Also odin does not wipe internal sd either...again you have to boot into stock recovery and wipe data/factory reset to reformat internal sd. I still always back my nandroids up to external sd, just incase my internal ever corrupts, I wont lose them!
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Ahh yeah, that makes sense. That's how it was on my nexus with being just internal storage and nandroids never were deleted. Thanks for the clarification.
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Not true...IF you wipe data/factory reset from stock recovery, it reformats the whole internal sd card(everything is wiped). Now if you wipe data from cwm recovery, then no nandroids are not deleted. Also odin does not wipe internal sd either...again you have to boot into stock recovery and wipe data/factory reset to reformat internal sd. I still always back my nandroids up to external sd, just incase my internal ever corrupts, I wont lose them!
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There's something in Odin that wipes it because when I used it to go back to stock it wiped mine...
Either way though, backup your nandroids to your ext card... saves you all the hassle lol
Does not erase backups unless they are stored internally by default
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I can see the stock recovery wiping it but since the OP used the term nandroid I assumed CWM. Good to know the stock wipes it clean if there is ever a time I have to send it back.
I had an issue back before we were unlocked and when I ODINed back to stock all the internal SD was wiped. Wasn't too pleased but my fault for not backing up.
Sidenote about backing up. I tend to backup the entire internal and external SD every Sunday. The app I use for backup doesn't see the S3 as a media device so I can't use it to make incremental backups. Is there any program that would do that? I use karens replicator for backup btw. That's the one that doesn't work.
I need to clear it - I made "wipe data/factory reset" in stock ICS recovery menu - is it going to cause deleting ROM (and reboot will make brick) OR just wil get it back to clean factory ROM?
I found few threads here about "wipe data"-thing, but it seems to me, that every version of Android / custom ROM / recovery type could behave different.
My device is Thinkpad Lenovo tablet (rooted) with Android 4.0.3..my apology by writing in here, but I'm a newbie on this forum and that's why I can't write in some threads, including more relevant ones.
Bumerank said:
I need to clear it - I made "wipe data/factory reset" in stock ICS recovery menu - is it going to cause deleting ROM (and reboot will make brick) OR just wil get it back to clean factory ROM?
I found few threads here about "wipe data"-thing, but it seems to me, that every version of Android / custom ROM / recovery type could behave different.
My device is Thinkpad Lenovo tablet (rooted) with Android 4.0.3..my apology by writing in here, but I'm a newbie on this forum and that's why I can't write in some threads, including more relevant ones.
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Well, in the recovery for our device that would just wipe the data and not the ROM. I use TWRP
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This is my first tablet and I've always stored my backups on an external card, so using the internal memory on the 300 brings up some questions.
When flashing a rom and wiping data, will that wipe the folders and app data on the internal memory?
Is it best to keep TWRP and Rom Toolbox (app) backups on the external SD card?
I could be wrong here, but before flashing a new (testing AOKP and CM10), I did the 'factory reset' in twrp, as I would normally wipe data & cache before flashing a new rom on my other devices... but it appears that twrp doesn't completely wipe the data partition and some of the app data was still there. Am I wrong or does twrp not touch the internal memory, other than whats in the 'data' folder?
FWIW, I'm doing twrp backups on my SD card, but RTB app backups on internal... but if flashing a new rom will wipe the RTB folder from internal memory, I'll have to start backing up to the SD.
thx for any help/advice.
beepea206 said:
When flashing a rom and wiping data, will that wipe the folders and app data on the internal memory?
Is it best to keep TWRP and Rom Toolbox (app) backups on the external SD card?
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I think the wipe doesn't touch either the internal or external SD cards. At least that's been my experience with CWM.
Hi guys, I've been flashing my new Galaxy S3 lately and have started to migrate my music library onto my internal 32GB. It's a healthy 15GB of music.
I run SynergyROM r66, and would like to load up r71 fairly soon, bu would not like to lose my music, as it is a pain to resync for me.
How do I do so without it reformatting my internal memory? I'm sticking with Synergy so I don't think I need to do a "clean wipe" right?
Is it as simple as Wipe Cache/Wipe Dalvik, then Install from SD, then reboot? No factory reset?
Any help is appreciated, thank you.
Blutonic said:
Hi guys, I've been flashing my new Galaxy S3 lately and have started to migrate my music library onto my internal 32GB. It's a healthy 15GB of music.
I run SynergyROM r66, and would like to load up r71 fairly soon, bu would not like to lose my music, as it is a pain to resync for me.
How do I do so without it reformatting my internal memory? I'm sticking with Synergy so I don't think I need to do a "clean wipe" right?
Is it as simple as Wipe Cache/Wipe Dalvik, then Install from SD, then reboot? No factory reset?
Any help is appreciated, thank you.
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data wipe/ factory reset from stock recovery formats internal memory. data/wipe factory reset from Cwm recovery only wipes system data and does not reformat internal sd, unless you manually do it thru mounts/storage menu in cwm...although you should be fine with just a cache wipe going to r71.
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data wipe/ factory reset from stock recovery formats internal memory. data/wipe factory reset from Cwm recovery only wipes system data and does not reformat internal sd, unless you manually do it thru mounts/storage menu in cwm...although you should be fine with just a cache wipe going to r71.
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Cool, what about the Dalvik cache, what does that do?
Blutonic said:
Cool, what about the Dalvik cache, what does that do?
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I always wipe dalvik cache to be safe.
Blutonic said:
Cool, what about the Dalvik cache, what does that do?
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The Dalvik virtual machine deals with your apps. Whenever changing apps it's a good idea to clear it's cache so you don't have cached data for a different version of an app - this could confuse the machine and lead to problems.
Perfect. thanks for the help guys.
Wiping through cwm recovery in recovery (not the app itself) will not wipe your media or pictures or downloaded files etc. Your Music will be intact, but something not mentioned here yet, do you have an external sd card? Always a good idea to put that important stuff on it,or at least copies of it to be safe, including titanium backups. Though cwm won't wipe your media, if something goes wrong and you have to do a stock recovery, you may forget that cwm is NO LONGER there, and accidentally wipe your media like I did once bricking my galaxy player 5.0!
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Wiping through cwm recovery in recovery (not the app itself) will not wipe your media or pictures or downloaded files etc. Your Music will be intact, but something not mentioned here yet, do you have an external sd card? Always a good idea to put that important stuff on it,or at least copies of it to be safe, including titanium backups. Though cwm won't wipe your media, if something goes wrong and you have to do a stock recovery, you may forget that cwm is NO LONGER there, and accidentally wipe your media like I did once bricking my galaxy player 5.0!
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Yea, I got it all backed up to one of the Hard Drives on my computer. This should go smoothly.
Ok, how do i completely wipe everything off of my AT&T 1.14 HOX, except for TWRP so that I can install a new rom.
RC196 said:
Ok, how do i completely wipe everything off of my AT&T 1.14 HOX, except for TWRP so that I can install a new rom.
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I assume you already have twrp installed if so boot into fast boot flash the boot. IMG of rom you desire them boot into recovery wipe system factory reset than flash ROM and enjoy
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I assume you already have twrp installed if so boot into fast boot flash the boot. IMG of rom you desire them boot into recovery wipe system factory reset than flash ROM and enjoy
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Can I delete everything leaving the TWRP folder and a copy of my rom?
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Can I delete everything leaving the TWRP folder and a copy of my rom?
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Are you talking about the internal SD? If you use Titanium Backup, then obviously you should not delete that folder, as that is where the backup files are located. Aside from that, if you don't want to keep any past data from apps, pics etc, then yes you can delete the internal SD contents (aside from the ROM and TWRP nandroid). There may be some other exceptions (particularly for other backup software that you may be using). But in general, the folders on the internal SD are disposable (if flashing a new ROM). When you install a new app after flashing, if the new app needs a folder on the SD, it will just be created automatically.
Aside from the internal SD, before flashing a new ROM do a factory reset (in TWRP not within hboot) and wipe Dalvik and cache. Nothing else really "needs" to be wiped. System partition (where the ROM is stored) will get wiped when the ROM flashes.
I like to format my SD every Sunday to keep this beast on a diet. Then I flash a Rom, inject it with steroids via a custom kernel, and watch it poop all over the s3's I work with
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Are you talking about the internal SD? If you use Titanium Backup, then obviously you should not delete that folder, as that is where the backup files are located. Aside from that, if you don't want to keep any past data from apps, pics etc, then yes you can delete the internal SD contents (aside from the ROM and TWRP nandroid). There may be some other exceptions (particularly for other backup software that you may be using). But in general, the folders on the internal SD are disposable (if flashing a new ROM). When you install a new app after flashing, if the new app needs a folder on the SD, it will just be created automatically.
Aside from the internal SD, before flashing a new ROM do a factory reset (in TWRP not within hboot) and wipe Dalvik and cache. Nothing else really "needs" to be wiped. System partition (where the ROM is stored) will get wiped when the ROM flashes.
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Yes that's exactly what I want. To wipe out with a fresh start. No apps, no files.
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then do it buddy!!!
So when you say internal are you talking about the SD or everything?
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So when you say internal are you talking about the SD or everything?
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If you want to wipe the SD card (then flash a ROM), the best way is probably to:
Connect phone to your computer, and copy your TWRP folder (nandroid) to your computer, along with any other backup data, such as Titanium Backup. Then wipe the SD in TWRP.
Mount USB to your computer again, and move the TWRP folder, new ROM zip file, and other backups (like Titanium).
Then in TWRP, factory reset, wipe cache, Wipe Dalvik, then install the ROM.
There is no reason to wipe system, as this gets wiped when your flash the ROM. Some people like to do it "just to be sure". But IMO it serves no purpose. Also keep in mind the second you wipe system, the phone will no longer boot, since you just wiped the OS. People seem to forget that a lot and ask "I wiped system, why won't my phone boot now?"
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If you want to wipe the SD card (then flash a ROM), the best way is probably to:
Connect phone to your computer, and copy your TWRP folder (nandroid) to your computer, along with any other backup data, such as Titanium Backup. Then wipe the SD in TWRP.
Mount USB to your computer again, and move the TWRP folder, new ROM zip file, and other backups (like Titanium).
Then in TWRP, factory reset, wipe cache, Wipe Dalvik, then install the ROM.
There is no reason to wipe system, as this gets wiped when your flash the ROM. Some people like to do it "just to be sure". But IMO it serves no purpose. Also keep in mind the second you wipe system, the phone will no longer boot, since you just wiped the OS. People seem to forget that a lot and ask "I wiped system, why won't my phone boot now?"
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Is it normal for TWRP to be 2.58GB?
No its not
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Are you talking about the TWRP folder? Your NANDROID backups are in there if you took any. That might explain why it's large.
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Are you talking about the TWRP folder? Your NANDROID backups are in there if you took any. That might explain why it's large.
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Yes that was it. I just copied my backup to my pc. Freed up a lot of space on phone storage but in app storage it shows 4.23gb and under other it shows 3.85gb. Not sure what that is all about?
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No its not
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Yes, its somewhat normal. It depend on the size of the ROM that is currently on the phone, and the other data (apps, etc.). But its not unusual for a nandroid to be a GB or so, so if you have 2 nandroids on the SD = 2.5 GB.
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Yes, its somewhat normal. It depend on the size of the ROM that is currently on the phone, and the other data (apps, etc.). But its not unusual for a nandroid to be a GB or so, so if you have 2 nandroids on the SD = 2.5 GB.
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Thanks for the help
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I'm wanting to install a custom ROM and I've read when you do so you will need to do a factory wipe before hand. I did a full backup using CWM Touch and it saved to my internal memory card, not external. I also backed up my IMEI using Terminal, which I'm guessing is saved on my internal as well. So If i download a customer ROM and do a factory wipe along with a cache and delvik wipe, won't I loose those backups that I will need in case of an emergency? Can I just move the CWM Touch backup folder to my external or will that cause issues? I'm clueless.
Thanks,
It'll stay on your internal sd card.
Doing a factory wipe basically resets the data partition and caches, erasing all user and app data leaving the phone as a clean slate. However, this will not erase files from your phone. Your backup will be fine on an internal sd, and things like pictures, music, and downloaded files will stay there as well. You're imei backup is actually stored on your boot partition. That's pretty much as safe as it gets unless you hard brick your phone.
I put all my backups on an external so I can always pull them off if something horrible goes wrong. To move them you have to move the entire folder including the backups and blobs. They have to stay together or if you try to restore a nandroid it won't work.
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Hello,
I have flashed hundreds of Roms on my S3 until recently landing on the ML1 Rooted from Old&Slow. The problem is that I am running out of internal storage. This is partially due to the residual files left over from Roms, Apps & Stuff.
How can I clean it out? I don't want to go in and start deleting things....out of fear of deleting the wrong files and bricking.
Running TWRP. Can I format internal storage?
If I mess up, I would have to Odin back to MF1, root, unlock....blah, blah, blah.
Maybe that's what I should do regardless...I am still partially scared that the 4.3 update will sneak on before I can ulock, root etc.....
Any easier way?
Thanks!
Yes, format internal SD.
I would factory reset, clear cache, clear dalvik cache, format system, then format internal SD card, then reflash the rom.
Everything that's needed will get repopulated when you reflash the rom, just make sure the rom and your backups are on your external SD card.
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BadUsername said:
Yes, format internal SD.
I would factory reset, clear cache, clear dalvik cache, format system, then format internal SD card, then reflash the rom.
Everything that's needed will get repopulated when you reflash the rom, just make sure the rom and your backups are on your external SD card.
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Thanks, After formatting, could I restore a backup of the rom?
I have a lot of Mods in place and would prefer to not have to set it all up again.
Thanks!
ripdoozer said:
Thanks, After formatting, could I restore a backup of the rom?
I have a lot of Mods in place and would prefer to not have to set it all up again.
Thanks!
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Sure you can, but if you restore a backup it'll probably just rewrite everything the exact same way it was. But it might solve the problem.
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