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Is your Web browsing extremely slow?

Everything on my 300 works excellent except web browsing. Does anyone else have this issue? It's getting to the point to where I want to sell it!
Web pages seem to load slower than on my phone. Has anyone else noticed this?
Is it a problem with the Nvidia chipset? Or is it something Asus can fix with a software update?
I am hoping I don't have a lemon.

I have been having this same issue, actually. I was just talking to the co-worker who sold me this tablet over the Prime and was expressing my concern with the really slow web browsing. Disclaimer, though, that I'm using Google Chrome to browse, not the stock browser. I was encouraged to try Opera and other browsers before condemning this device to slow browsing, so perhaps that would help us both?
I'm also in the process of rooting mine so -hopefully- the custom ROM's I install will have some performance tweaks.

Browsing seemed slow in both stock and Firefox. Tried Chrome and it seamed slow too.
On Boat browser now and it is really snappy. About as fast as my desktop. I really like the ability to import bookmarks from HTML files. Have Firefox synced to my desktop but like Boat better.

software tune up
I'm pretty sure that they just don't use the whole 100% tegra3 can give yet.
From my experience the custom + open source based ROMs usually perform better than stock.

this is probably due to slow IO performance ( internal storage)
look at the prime forums , prime has the same problem.
cfq io scheduler makes it better (kernel mod), browser2ram fixes this because it does not cache on disk but in ram..
asus is looking into this but most people believe that asus uses cheap/slow memory chips/controllers....

if you rootyour device, you can use this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25286407&postcount=61
it works extremly good

black_impact said:
if you rootyour device, you can use this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25286407&postcount=61
it works extremly good
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I was reading about that. From what I have heard it works really well. I also heard through some rumors that ASUS will be addressing this in their next update. Although it is just rumors and who knows how long until the next update.

What I find to be a problem is the freezing and hiccups which occur on large webpages. Frequently I'll see the 'This program has stopped responding' message, forcing me to click on the wait button. I really hope a firmware fix will address this - it appears on all browsers for me. My Galaxy Note is far faster than my TF300 at loading sites. It's very frustrating.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF300T using Tapatalk 2

Tempie007 said:
this is probably due to slow IO performance ( internal storage)
look at the prime forums , prime has the same problem.
cfq io scheduler makes it better (kernel mod), browser2ram fixes this because it does not cache on disk but in ram..
asus is looking into this but most people believe that asus uses cheap/slow memory chips/controllers....
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Yep the IO performance sucks, hopefully we will get custom kernels soon, or asus will fix this who knows.

Yep just rooted and downloaded the apk. It's almost necessary. Chrome runs so much better right off the bat. I will say though that you do lose all your previous browser settings but it's 100% worth it.

jgaf said:
Yep the IO performance sucks, hopefully we will get custom kernels soon, or asus will fix this who knows.
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Yea i hope asus finds a way fix this , some improvements can be made with a different io scheduler such as cfq however this will not improve raw speed, which is still terrible.
The sqlite benchmark shows us extreme bad performance especially on the 1000 inserts, 70 seconds where other devices are done in less than 1 second. I find it hard to believe that this is caused by memory chips itself , we are talking about hundred times worse?"
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using Tapatalk 2

Guys. Thanks for the help. I have only tried Boat browser so far and I have noticed it is a bit faster than all the other browsers I've tried so far. Not perfect by any means, but better.
I will try those other methods later this week.
What are the odds Asus fixes this issue?
How come there aren't more complaints about this in the TF300 forum? Or does this not affect every tablet?
Sent from my SPH-D710 using xda premium

Has anyonec changed the performance settings to Performance Mode and noticed a difference? Seemed like I did.

On some web pages I can swipe the page, and then count to two before it actually moves. Then swipe again nothing. Then a couple of seconds later the page moves!
Like the web page is stuck in jello. Really Frustrating.
I kind of hope that the Transformer Infinity uses something other than Tegra 3 as has been suggested. Not sure I want to take a chance on another Tegra 3 device just yet.

black_impact said:
if you rootyour device, you can use this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25286407&postcount=61
it works extremly good
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This has worked wonders with the speed of the stock browser. Thanks for pointing us to the link
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Anyone tried this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1714253 it was made for the prime fw. 28, maybe it will work on the 300
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The best thing to do is browser2ram, period.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25286407
second best to do is to use the cfq scheduler which is included in certain custom kernels.
and further lets wait for asus, my guess is that they will use cfq scheduler in the near future ...

Is there a 1 click root available? I have never used adb. I'm too noobish.
I've rooted several phones with 1 click root, never done a root the way they suggest.
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Zdidge said:
Is there a 1 click root available? I have never used adb. I'm too noobish.
I've rooted several phones with 1 click root, never done a root the way they suggest.
Sent from my SPH-D710 using xda premium
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I got mine yesterday and its already rooted. All I did was install the asus pc suite for the driver. Then be sure to close Asus Sync in the system tray. Then I used this method.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1711678
It was more like 5 clicks but took all of two minutes.

I put these drivers on my pc, correct?
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Memory Specifications & Speed Issues

I've read several posts where people were having various speed/lag issues. There is a dedicated thread about the TF300 being almost unusable when a market update is being downloaded. I have the same problem on mine. Also have the occasional stall on a webpage, but it doesn't happen often. I have seen no other thread dedicated to the internal memory so I guess this will be the first!
So my questions are:
1) Is this due to a file system issue? (On the SGS, we used VooDoo Lagfix to change the FS to EXT4 which greatly increased the speed)
2) One person suggested that the TF300 uses single-channel memory (I don't know what is meant by this as I know the TF300 has DDR3 whereas the Prime uses DDR2)
3) How is the internal memory mounted? I haven't seen anyone tear one of these open yet. I remember a smartphone that was taken apart to find that the "internal" storage memory was nothing more than a micro-sd card! It could be replaced with a faster class memory to improve performance.

I think it's the I/0 scheduler.
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2

Well, I identified the file system - EXT4. So that's not the problem.
What's the I/O scheduler entail? Is that something that's controlled by the OS? Perhaps a custom ROM or an update from ASUS can fix it?

Subbed.
The stock browser is painfully laggy.

meatrocket said:
Well, I identified the file system - EXT4. So that's not the problem.
What's the I/O scheduler entail? Is that something that's controlled by the OS? Perhaps a custom ROM or an update from ASUS can fix it?
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The I/O scheduler is part of the kernel. It can be fixed by an update from Asus, but I wouldn't expect them to change it any time soon. Apparently, if you go to the Prime dev forums, there is a module to add support for the Simple I/O scheduler, which is supposed to run well on the Transformer tablets. Not sure if it would work on the stock kernel, but you could try.

Trying the SI0 schedualer from the AOKP rom and the speed issues pretty much went away.
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2

Looks like success with the IO scheduler is erratic. I'll watch that thread for a few more days before I take the plunge.

meatrocket said:
Looks like success with the IO scheduler is erratic. I'll watch that thread for a few more days before I take the plunge.
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Can you let me know if you get this I/O Scheduler to work without a custom rom, I am roted just not unlocked.
Thanks
Rob
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF300T using Tapatalk 2!

rlanza1054 said:
Can you let me know if you get this I/O Scheduler to work without a custom rom, I am roted just not unlocked.
Thanks
Rob
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It works running it on stock rom. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27862975&postcount=149

My battery is amazing on the aokp rom
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Just sent my tablet back for warranty because of this, didn't see many complaints on it so I figured I had a lemon (in addition to insane backlight bleeding)
Somewhat worried now that I've seen this thread. Subscribed, hopefully some information will pop up. I'll post results when I get my tablet back.

[Info] Possible fix for I/O issues

Here's a nice thread about a possible solution for I/O issues/bottleneck.The topic is for the Transformer Prime but i guess the devs in here will also found interesting infos.

Pretoriano80 said:
Here's a nice thread about a possible solution for I/O issues/bottleneck.The topic is for the Transformer Prime but i guess the devs in here will also found interesting infos.
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What issues? I don't experience any issues anymore with the .26 update. I am rooted and unlocked, but I haven't done anything to improve on that part. In .22 it was quite necessary, but ASUS has done a good job with .26.

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It's been pretty OK since the update.
And I don't think that moving all data to an external microSD card is such a good idea, I'd rather depend on internal storage, I want my SD to be totally removable.
I'd like to know more about this SQL patch though, but they don't provide much info really.
BTW, there's a typo in your link (no colon after http).

firetech said:
What issues? I don't experience any issues anymore with the .26 update. I am rooted and unlocked, but I haven't done anything to improve on that part. In .22 it was quite necessary, but ASUS has done a good job with .26.
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I agree with you, my tablet also work quiet nice with .26 but if you look at the benchmarks the internal storage on our tablet is very slow compared with other old and new devices.
With the above kernel mode we could use external storage for /DATA and /CACHE partition and gain a substantial speed increase.
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d14b0ll0s said:
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It's been pretty OK since the update.
And I don't think that moving all data to an external microSD card is such a good idea, I'd rather depend on internal storage, I want my SD to be totally removable.
I'd like to know more about this SQL patch though, but they don't provide much info really.
BTW, there's a typo in your link (no colon after http).
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Here's more info regarding that sql patch

Pretoriano80 said:
Here's more info regarding that sql patch
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Ok, so this simply disables fsync, not something I'll be doing anytime soon, at least until the reboot issues are completely solved (I'll be happy with 30 days uptime).
Plus, this is not the greatest idea on a device that had some I/O issues, as it seems sync is even more needed with it.

I don't think the infinity needs an external SD card, it's fast enough and even scoring better than his prime with external SD card.
This is my stock infinity:

That's not really testing the part that fails horribly though. Where our storage performs miserably is random writes. It's around 40-50 IOPS and under 200kB/s. Absolutely ridiculous for a flagship device.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29660695&postcount=25

I'm amazed that folks are happy with the performance on .26. It is better than .22 but performance is still pretty terrible for me compared to my other devices. If you guys use Browser2ram or disable fsync in sqlite you'll realize just how slow this thing still is. In my opinion, buying a fast microSD card(harder than you think for random access) and moving /data and /cache is the best option.

I am noticing pretty slow browsing, pages load terribly slowly. I've tried chrome, Firefox and built in browser. While I agree there has been some improvement, i still get pretty noticeable stutters in ICS.
I mean this tablet has pretty much the best specs on the market...quad core, clocked @ 1.6 and a gig of ram with a substantial internal hd. It would seem to me that there is still a lot of untapped horse power.
That said, early adopters of new technology should often expect some quirks at the beginning, i know i did. Asus has always been great about getting updates out fast for other hardware i have purchased.
I personally feel that with a little patience, we will not only get our fixes and jelly bean, but some great devs making new ROM'S that will really showcase the performance we can expect from this device.
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urrlyx said:
That's not really testing the part that fails horribly though. Where our storage performs miserably is random writes. It's around 40-50 IOPS and under 200kB/s. Absolutely ridiculous for a flagship device.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29660695&postcount=25
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But it's not getting better with the partition moving?! Haven't seen a single Androbench screenshot which shows a big improvement on random writes.

paysen said:
But it's not getting better with the partition moving?! Haven't seen a single Androbench screenshot which shows a big improvement on random writes.
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Which is why we don't think moving it helps at all.

urrlyx said:
Which is why we don't think moving it helps at all.
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So why are you quoting my post with the benchmark where I say that moving to the SD card wouldn't be helpful for the TF700? :angel:

paysen said:
So why are you quoting my post with the benchmark where I say that moving to the SD card wouldn't be helpful for the TF700? :angel:
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Only because that benchmark doesn't show the problem in question. Wasn't trying to disagree with you. =)

urrlyx said:
Only because that benchmark doesn't show the problem in question. Wasn't trying to disagree with you. =)
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Thats what I misunderstood :silly: So when moving to a fast sd card won't help - maybe a software fix can help there to boost it up :fingers-crossed:

Im not complaining cause i fricking love this tablet but shouldnt these issues been caught during development and testing by Asus? I understand a few small issues may slip through but not something as glaring as some of the I/O problems. Did they not download and install an app while multitasking? lol. Dont get me wrong i am in no way bashing them and would still buy this tablet if i could do it over again.... I'm just not very familiar with the [email protected] process for something like this. Do they just accept a few flaws in order to bring it to market as soon as possible and work hard to push updates?
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cctaylor410 said:
Im not complaining cause i fricking love this tablet but shouldnt these issues been caught during development and testing by Asus? I understand a few small issues may slip through but not something as glaring as some of the I/O problems. Did they not download and install an app while multitasking? lol. Dont get me wrong i am in no way bashing them and would still buy this tablet if i could do it over again.... I'm just not very familiar with the [email protected] process for something like this. Do they just accept a few flaws in order to bring it to market as soon as possible and work hard to push updates?
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To be honest this is 1 million dollars question but only Asus (QA department maybe?) can answer. Anyway they already did a good job with the latest update and compared with previous firmwares the tablet is much better and the lag issue many users seems to be gone.
The bad part is the internal memory overall performance because imo that is just poor hardware quality and you don't expect to have such a poor hardware on a high-end device like that.
So if Asus doesn't prove the contrary (but i hope they do) this become a pure hw design flaw and there's not much we could do about it... we will have a nice "bottleneck" on this tablet.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk 2

The poor random I/O performance is not limited to the Infinity. The entire line of Transformer tablets is plagued with this issue. Most likely Asus is just making a poor choice when they choose their emmc chips. Part of the problem is that emmc is the same stuff that goes into a sdcard and sdcards are generally designed with fast sequential performance with little regard for IOPs and random performance since most sdcards end up in cameras where most files are 1MB+ in size and you're usually only writing one file at a time.

I think Dees_Troy is correct, we just don't really have a full fledged SSD controller in tablets yet
The controller is more like the first gen ssd controllers that we had for sdd hdds
I guess with software optimization by ordering as much as possible the access and maybe caching more in the normal ram it could be a bit better
But in the end i think it is just pure hardware, we don't have Marvel or Sandforge ssd level controllers yet in tablets, that would make a bit more expensive and power hungry i guess.
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The sad part is my laptop HDD (not SSD) has 10 times Infinity's random write and one would expect more from a flash chip.

tf700 sluggish

Someone may be able answer but i doubt but i have to ask the question...
Had my tf since november - the business on it as soon as it was out of the box. But no matter what image ive loaded onto it its always been slow ( i think ive tried them all) ie my nexus4 runs greasy smooth compared to my tf, almost to the point that a guy at work gave me a 300 to unlock and his seemed a lot better/smoother/faster than mine....is it just mine or is it the norm
currently im on cyanogen 10.1 latest nightly with the bryce overclocked kernel running at 1.9gb if i was a betting man i would say the nova launcher was running about 10fps with all the special effects off...as a guide...
ps especially the browser - no matter which one it always takes ages to load pages....
Thanks to anyone that can shed any light on it....

I must admit I struggle with your story language-wise, but I think I do get your general statement. CROMI, for example, should run smoothly, no matter what, UNLESS your device is faulty.
I'd recommend wiping EVERYTHING -- so you do not run into remnants form earlier ROMs/installations -- and starting anew with CROMI, just to be sure. Update your bootloader (to the JB version), and then try data2SD if it is still not to your liking.

MartyHulskemper said:
I must admit I struggle with your story language-wise, but I think I do get your general statement. CROMI, for example, should run smoothly, no matter what, UNLESS your device is faulty.
I'd recommend wiping EVERYTHING -- so you do not run into remnants form earlier ROMs/installations -- and starting anew with CROMI, just to be sure. Update your bootloader (to the JB version), and then try data2SD if it is still not to your liking.
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And to add to Marty's efforts what ever you do if flashisg from a custom recovery with JB 4.1 or later do not use an older version of any recovery!

Hi - which rom is that...?
I must say im kind of trying that right now....complete wipe, factory reset and then a factory reset from the recovery screen....its auto loading the apps at the moment....thanks for the reply all the same....ive never tried that bit of software that goes on the memory card...is there a walkthrough somewhere?

im pretty sure im on the jb bootloader but is there a way to check??

You can flash the latest bootloader form page 2 of the CleanRom Inheritance thread And CROMI from page 1

Mr read PLZ
As far as I know stock TF700 related ROMs are laggy and require a custom Over clocked kernel such as Clemsyn which is rubbish and even with this performance is sluggish. But her is a way to get rid of the lag once and for all. Unlock and root the TF700. Then install Cyanogenmod 10.1 latest build and then when you boot into it set the IO as CFQ permenantly and then use Seeder with the settings on aggressive and the IO extend option unticked but all the rest of the options ticked. Also use lightning browser or Browser2RAM which enhances the stock Android browsers performance.
After that enjoy a super fast transformer like never before. Don't use any other rom . My transformer got nearly 150000 on Antutu which is really good and I got nearly 5500 on Quadrant with it on performance mode (I didn't use the custom CM10.1 customs kernel or any other one just the stock CM10.1 kernel). My transformer in balanced seems to be on par with an iPad 2, 3 and better than a normal Asus transformer Prime or TF300 and I have over 40 applications with several games with 1+GB data. The IO problem is still there as it is hardware based although with this their is nearly no lag for the first time. Beautiful TF700 CyanogenMod developers. I read the commit log and checked the code many gerrit optimisations for the IO and Armv7 cores. Enjoy!!!!! Wohoo Project Butter!!!!!
Continue Cyanogenmod providing better support than Asus. One reason to jailbreak (Root) is because of this.

coolmsb said:
As far as I know stock TF700 related ROMs are laggy and require a custom Over clocked kernel such as Clemsyn which is rubbish and even with this performance is sluggish. But her is a way to get rid of the lag once and for all. Unlock and root the TF700. Then install Cyanogenmod 10.1 latest build and then when you boot into it set the IO as CFQ permenantly and then use Seeder with the settings on aggressive and the IO extend option unticked but all the rest of the options ticked. Also use lightning browser or Browser2RAM which enhances the stock Android browsers performance.
After that enjoy a super fast transformer like never before. Don't use any other rom . My transformer got nearly 150000 on Antutu which is really good and I got nearly 5500 on Quadrant with it on performance mode (I didn't use the custom CM10.1 customs kernel or any other one just the stock CM10.1 kernel). My transformer in balanced seems to be on par with an iPad 2, 3 and better than a normal Asus transformer Prime or TF300 and I have over 40 applications with several games with 1+GB data. The IO problem is still there as it is hardware based although with this their is nearly no lag for the first time. Beautiful TF700 CyanogenMod developers. I read the commit log and checked the code many gerrit optimisations for the IO and Armv7 cores. Enjoy!!!!! Wohoo Project Butter!!!!!
Continue Cyanogenmod providing better support than Asus. One reason to jailbreak (Root) is because of this.
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Well not to brag but flash CROMI which is based on stock and you can achieve 17000 on antutu and over 7000 on quadrant. So much for stock ROMs being laggy eh?
Now with no overclocking you are looking at 5500 - 6000 on quadrant so would seem to be on par with CM based ROMs. I do like CM but you lose some functionality whilst gaining others and you have to suffer some stability issues especially if doing nightlies. Also they never seem to finish them.....

coolmsb said:
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2164090
This user posted the same response in the above thread also.
Looks to me like someone has an agenda.

Thats OK said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2164090
This user posted the same response in the above thread also.
Looks to me like someone has an agenda.
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Don't you? I know I have!

MartyHulskemper said:
Don't you? I know I have!
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Yes I do

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Yes I do
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Me three!

[Q] Does rooting speed this thing up?

My TF700t is still stock. One thing that bugs me is how slow it is! Choppy, loads apps kinda slow. Will rooting and using a custom ROM speed things up?
Also ---- I read on here that custom ROMs put the navigation buttons in the middle? Is that true?
Thanks for you help!

Rooting allows certain apps that will speed the tablet up. Installing a custom rom will increase the speed of the tablet tremendously,however to do so you must unlock your bootloader which then voids the warranty on your tablet. If you install a 4.2.x rom yes it will move the navigation buttons into the middle, however not all roms are 4.2 yet. When ASUS releases 4.2.1 for the tf700 they will have it optioned to switch between layouts, which will be implemented into Cromi when it is update, is what I guess will happen. So you will have the choice. But you wont be forced to use the new layout.
Tylor
Sent from my ASUS Transformer TF700T Infinity Pad Using Tapatalk HD
Rom: Cyanogen Nightlies 10.1 or CleanRom 3.4.4 - Depends on the mood .

PaulQ602 said:
My TF700t is still stock. One thing that bugs me is how slow it is! Choppy, loads apps kinda slow. Will rooting and using a custom ROM speed things up?
Also ---- I read on here that custom ROMs put the navigation buttons in the middle? Is that true?
Thanks for you help!
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If you root it, you can install Browser 2 Ram and that will help with the browser lag.
To install a custom ROM you will have to unlock the bootloader, which will void your warranty -for good!
And it can make all the difference...
I was frustrated and disappointed with the TF700 until I unlocked and flashed CROMI -now I adore it!
Each custom ROM is slightly different. What you are referring to may be the 4.2. launcher which puts the soft key buttons in the middle.
There is no 4.2. stock or custom Rom for the TF 700 yet. But the 4.2. release for the TF 300 lets you choose between the 4.1. and 4.2. launcher. I would expect it to be the same once we get 4.2.
But then... I would not touch 4.2. unless it's been CROMI'd
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk HD

berndblb said:
If you root it, you can install Browser 2 Ram and that will help with the browser lag.
To install a custom ROM you will have to unlock the bootloader, which will void your warranty -for good!
And it can make all the difference...
I was frustrated and disappointed with the TF700 until I unlocked and flashed CROMI -now I adore it!
Each custom ROM is slightly different. What you are referring to may be the 4.2. launcher which puts the soft key buttons in the middle.
There is no 4.2. stock or custom Rom for the TF 700 yet. But the 4.2. release for the TF 300 lets you choose between the 4.1. and 4.2. launcher. I would expect it to be the same one we get 4.2.
But then... I would not touch 4.2. unless it's been CROMI'd
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk HD
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Cyanogen is 4.2.2. and I also expect they give the tf700 users the option between the 4.1 layout and the 4.2 layout, or I'll be stuck of 4.1.1 for awhile. lol
Tylor
Sent from my ASUS Transformer TF700T Infinity Pad Using Tapatalk HD
Rom: Cyanogen Nightlies 10.1 or CleanRom 3.4.4 - Depends on the mood .

Tylorw1 said:
Cyanogen is 4.2.2. and I also expect they give the tf700 users the option between the 4.1 layout and the 4.2 layout, or I'll be stuck of 4.1.1 for awhile .
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Won't be too long. My bet is, Asus releases 4.2. for the TF700 within the next 3-4 months. Then the only question is what the bootloader will look like and how long it will take sbdags and _that to create a CROMI version...
I'm not in a hurry. Entirely happy with what I got right now
And actually.... I'm so contend right now, 4.2 is going to have to have some serious candy to make me move....
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk HD

PaulQ602 said:
My TF700t is still stock. One thing that bugs me is how slow it is! Choppy, loads apps kinda slow. Will rooting and using a custom ROM speed things up?
Also ---- I read on here that custom ROMs put the navigation buttons in the middle? Is that true?
Thanks for you help!
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Short answer: yes it makes everything MUCH faster!
Certainly if you would run a custom rom on it

berndblb said:
And actually.... I'm so contend right now, 4.2 is going to have to have some serious candy to make me move....
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If the best they can do is that multi-user capability, I will probably stick to CROMI 3.4.4 as well -- at least we have very little known bugs whereas a new 4.2 stock ROM might bring unknown new and fresh ones. Ugh. Another boatload of work for sbdags and _that...

One thing rooting does is give you the authority to define which apps load on boot (startups). This is huge since you can disable most of these and get back tons more RAM after boot, which is the main reason this device is so glitchy in my opinion - lack of sufficient RAM. Phones run strong in 1GB RAM. Tablets do not. Because you typically load so many more apps on the tablet, all the RAM is gone by the time you boot. And when its gets low on RAM, all hell breaks loose. Not to mention the lag, if thats not bad enought, but 25 apps just can't run together properly in 250MB of space. Now try 260 user apps like I have and you'll agree you have to root.
After rooting and tweeking I now get about 500MB of free RAM after boot and use RAM booster (by Root Uninstaller) to manage and autoboost my RAM regularly. Its now fast, reliable, and runs all week without ever random rebooting like it used to do all the time. Also, Dev Options, enabling "Force GPU rendering" is highly recommended.
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VERY interesting discussion. I think I might do it. Excellent feedback! Much appreciated!

Unlocked. Rooted. ROM'd.
I feel like such a rebel! So much for the warranty.
Not sure I notice the speed up yet but I haven't used it enough. Went with CROMI.
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elfaure said:
One thing rooting does is give you the authority to define which apps load on boot (startups). This is huge since you can disable most of these and get back tons more RAM after boot, which is the main reason this device is so glitchy in my opinion - lack of sufficient RAM. Phones run strong in 1GB RAM. Tablets do not. Because you typically load so many more apps on the tablet, all the RAM is gone by the time you boot. And when its gets low on RAM, all hell breaks loose. Not to mention the lag, if thats not bad enought, but 25 apps just can't run together properly in 250MB of space. Now try 260 user apps like I have and you'll agree you have to root.
After rooting and tweeking I now get about 500MB of free RAM after boot and use RAM booster (by Root Uninstaller) to manage and autoboost my RAM regularly. Its now fast, reliable, and runs all week without ever random rebooting like it used to do all the time. Also, Dev Options, enabling "Force GPU rendering" is highly recommended.
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I'm going to go ahead and add to the countless times this has been said aready, just for the record, and for the future readers of this thread.
1. Free RAM is wasted RAM.
2. I had a lot of apps installed, but I didn't get past the 130 mark. Who the Hell has so many apps in use anyway? This is an invalid remark, im ny opinion, for it has absolutely no bearing on the device's capabilities, but only says something about the owner. With that kind of number of apps installed, you make it impssible for ANdroid to manage your memory.

I haven't rooted my device yet but when you root it you can use programs that allow you to speed your phone up (battery drain)
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