So im looking to upgrade my phone soon. I currently use a Sidekick ID (Yes yes I know). Been a long time reader of the XDA forums so im looking for some expert advice from well, you guys(the experts). From my understanding the Tilt and Wing are pretty much the exact same phone with different carriers with the exception that the 8925(tilt) has double the ram speed and a faster cpu than the Herald(wing) as well as gps. Anyway the OBVIOUS choice is (Or at least I thought it was) the 8925(tilt). I proceeded to do some more research on the phone and soon discovered the Video Driver\No Hardware accelaration problem on those phones which was a huge turn off for me once I found out about it. As far as the Herald(wing) goes, it is obviously alot slower than the 8925(tilt) due to the slow cpu ,and freeing up memory is something that seems to be more of a tedious task that you have to do every so often. A friend of mine owns a Herald(wing) and he uses the OpenTouch Rom by Ttrans1 which is awesome and is definitely better/speedier than the stock rom. Anyway it seems to me that no matter which phone I get, I am taking a loss in some form or another. So I am here to ask you guys, would I be better off with a slow phone WITH proper video hardware acceleration (Herald/Wing) or a much faster Phone WITHOUT proper video hardware acceleration (Tilt/8925). Any advice,comments or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
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ReDxKinG said:
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Both are more or less the same
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/cellphones/htc-herald-reviewed-verdict-thin-and-awesome-211475.php
http://tecmoviles.com/htc-8925-sencillamente-espectacular/
But black looks better
.. wait .. why? Wait a month or two and use the upgrade on a newer phone (HTC Rapheal). Or, just upgrade to the HTC Dream if you don't mind an O.S. switch as it has the larger screen.
Trust me, you're going to be disappointed if you do the Tilt/etc and see the new ones out in a month or two at incredible prices (to compete with the iPhone's popularity and price-range).
Not sure if T-Mobile is getting the Rapheal, but AT&T should be getting it at the end of October from what I've been told. Obviously, T-Mobile's HTC Dream (G1) is releasing on the 14th of October I think (for $179 w/2yr).
Or even better, wait a little longer and you can get the HD!!!
That´s a real piece of work!
you can get teh G1 thats coming out next month. I currently have a wing and im really happy with it, but im selling it and getting the g1.
orb3000 said:
Or even better, wait a little longer and you can get the HD!!!
That´s a real piece of work!
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I second that!! The HD will be the ultimate device!
First off,Thanks for the replies, I appreciate it. The general responses seem to be to wait for a newer/better device which makes sense and is the smarter choice Howeverm, the problem (which I failed to mention in my original posting) is that I need to decide within the next week because my job requires me to have a phone with exchange server email(Which I think the sidekick doesnt have and even if it does, the sidekick is not a very "professional" phone and I dont want to use it for work). After reading about the HD though I am DEFINITELY going to upgrade to it when it comes out, but for right now I need to decide between the wing or tilt as I can get either one for 150$. So anyone have any advice as far as those 2 phones go? I understand that they are more or less the same but they both have 2 different problems So I need advice as to which one would be the better choice FOR NOW given the problems they both suffer. Thanks
I figured I'd just throw this out there, I almost went for the AT&T Tilt but decided to forgo that and got the ETEN Glofiish M800. The Tilt and the M800 are pretty much direct competitors. The M800 has a VGA res screen so I got that . As far as I know, the specs were very similar.
There are some reported bugs with the M800, I've fixed all the issues I've had so far and all seems well.
Legodude522 said:
I figured I'd just throw this out there, I almost went for the AT&T Tilt but decided to forgo that and got the ETEN Glofiish M800. The Tilt and the M800 are pretty much direct competitors. The M800 has a VGA res screen so I got that . As far as I know, the specs were very similar.
There are some reported bugs with the M800, I've fixed all the issues I've had so far and all seems well.
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Ive read up on the glofiish and while its a pretty cool phone it is outside of my price range. But thanks for the suggestion as I had never even heard of that phone before prior to you mentioning it lol. Unfortunately, My choice is only between the Wing and The Tilt
Hi there,
I was wondering why does one of the boards have 288MB and the other 198MB. Then it occurred to me that maybe the space is there, just hidden from us. Why do I say this? Well, since the 198MB are Google enhanced devices, they allow OTA updates. If we look into the firmware file sizes, they are about that size. Could this be space reserved to keep firmware files while downloading updates? What if we find a way to bypass this "reserved space", activating the remaining space on the 32B boards?
This is just me brainstorming in my head. Let me know what you think.
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Hi there,
I was wondering why does one of the boards have 288MB and the other 198MB. Then it occurred to me that maybe the space is there, just hidden from us. Why do I say this? Well, since the 198MB are Google enhanced devices, they allow OTA updates. If we look into the firmware file sizes, they are about that size. Could this be space reserved to keep firmware files while downloading updates? What if we find a way to bypass this "reserved space", activating the remaining space on the 32B boards?
This is just me brainstorming in my head. Let me know what you think.
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HMMM yep i think your onto something their i mean why would htc waste money on 2 boards ????? cheaper to sell to voda but then why bother i mean we are talking pence per board here for htc so yea i think your prob right
We don't have something like iFixit ? No one has ever tried to open these toys and see what's inside?
OTA updates don't require any additional RAM, just FLASH. That means that the 192/288 thing doesn't apply.
And BTW: They're all OTA capable.
Check the specs on HTC site, nice idea, but really can't see this happening. Even a few cents per unit adds up when producting millions.
Producing 2 revisions of the board won't be that much trouble for them
as far as i know they use different chips too...
7200 and 7201, which is an altered version of 7200 for markets where(e.g. US) the 7200 has breached some patents and is not allowed to be sold
So they do have slightly different boards.
Can't some smart guy add memory to the system by taking some from that extra interal space that 192MB boards have?
Such a thing is definitely not unheard of in the computing world.. CPU manufacturers have been doing that for years selling 2 identical chips, except one intentionally clocked slower at a lower price.. Hell if you want to take it 1 step farther look at the AMD Phenom x3's where they disable a core on the CPU to sell it cheaper, where as a good motherboard now can re-enable that missing core for use.. I haven't seen the inside of a Magic to see the memory modules, but it is definitely more expensive to produce 2 boards then it is to produce 1.. However the board doesn't have to change, just the modules that are soldered to it.. You can often see this used in PC motherboards.. 1st time I noticed it was I had a Abit KT7 & an Abit KT7-Raid sitting next to each other.. They were identical except the raid module wasn't soldered onto the kt7 board even though all the contact points were there..
Basically the boards are going to be identical more then likely, But they would just leave out 1 step in the manufacturing process..
Anybody willing to crack open their Magic to make sure?
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Anybody willing to crack open their Magic to make sure?
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i would but have no idea what to look for
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i would but have no idea what to look for
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Yeah same here. I'm pretty sure I'd succeed in breaking my beautiful Ion
If you compare them to HTC Diamonds, you'll see that 32B is very similar to HTC Diamond and 32A is similar to HTC Diamond 2. Therefore, I assume that they are very close to their Diamond equivalents.
I would love to see this happen. could it really be as simple as it seems? from 192 to 288, thats a favorable jump I must say....crack the phone open and just post up a bunch of hi-res close up pictures and have one of the techy geniuses on the forums look solve the case.
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I would love to see this happen. could it really be as simple as it seems? from 192 to 288, thats a favorable jump I must say....crack the phone open and just post up a bunch of hi-res close up pictures and have one of the techy geniuses on the forums look solve the case.
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hell yeah! do it
You'd need a very tiny star/Allen wrench. There are six screws under the battery cover, and a small tab that voids your warranty if you open the phone.
I'd consider doing it (since I don't use my Ion anyway). I fear there will be tiny, pain-in-the-ass-to-reinsert ribbons under there to connect things like the camera. It would maybe be possible to take the shell off without affecting them; however, it depends on how the thing is built.
Do it!!! Please?
Edit: If theory is indeed fact this could make a world of difference for those with the 32B board.
Ok guys, found something to help you open your Sapphire without being blindfolded
http://phandroid.com/htc-magic-manual.pdf
Get it before someone takes it out
So the idea is opening the device, take good close-up pictures of its guts and let us analyze it and see if there is any indication of what is the real available memory. Hopefully, we should see enough memory banks, totaling 288MB
I'm enjoying the irony of being asked by a community of phone aficionados to crack open a phone I don't use.
Hero is cool, but I still don't think I'll be giving up my iPhone anytime soon... =P
If we could get access to SAPPDIAG.ZIP or SAPPDIAG.NBH (perhaps from the people who leaked the Hero RUU), we could maybe run a RAM test that would show how much ram fastboot has access to.
That service manual confirms my fear of many ribbons and such that would need to be disconnected. Do we have good photos of the 32A, so we at least know where to look/what to compare?
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I'm enjoying the irony of being asked by a community of phone aficionados to crack open a phone I don't use.
Hero is cool, but I still don't think I'll be giving up my iPhone anytime soon... =P
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Yup, thats irony alright. Now rip that bad girl apart and get us some nice spreads of her innards!
I hope someone takes up this challenge as I know I am curious to see if there is a possibility of the memory being there but not enabled for use...
Just curious. I'd like to get my hands on one.
i dont believe there are many in the US. also a lot of what the devs are doing on here apparently dont wok on them so unless you can do it yourself you would kinda be on your own as far as dev support.
most people (myself included) never get anywhere near maxing out their RAM which is the only difference from what i have read is the 1Gb versus our 512mb.
i am always hunting around the web so if i see one i will post a link but i believe the few that are out there were just random mistakes.
Hello,
I only hear bad reviews on the SE LiveView... Do you guys have experience with it? I want to buy one online but i'm still having some doubts.
Thanks.
AFAIK, those reviews are for an earlier version with a crapton of issues. It was rushed to market, and the firmware upgrades have improved upon the stability of the connection and all that.
That said, I have noone in my vicinity with it, so cannot ask.
(yes, I'm oogling one too...)
Something cool: http://www.imwatch.it/en/smartwatch/features/
I have one of first Live Views. How can I upgrade it? To your question i had some trouble with connection.
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i had one of these, they are not worth it, the software is very buggy and its always loosing connection with the phone. also the wrist band it comes with it rubbish and starts to fall apart after a week. like many items its a good item in theory but in real life it just stinks
I'm looking for a new phone, maybe even downgrade. Currently have a Galaxy S3 (that I've messed up trying to root and can't fix) but I want something quick, with good battery life, a smaller screen (around 4.5") decent enough camera, has all the apps etc on but must must be at least android 4.4 kitkat purely because my galaxy is the older one and that's the only sense I'm looking to upgrade in
I like the look of the LG F60 but I'm really struggling to find any reviews on it. Google is full of sites announcing the specs and release date but I'm still none the wiser
EDIT: The only place I can find to buy it is here http://www.mobilephonesdirect.co.uk/sim-free-mobile-phones/lg-f60 and a lot of sites that come up when searching are foreign, did it not get a large release in the UK? There's hardly any youtube videos on it. I'm just stumped