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Do you think when you buy a porsche or a ferrari and you can not drive because the wheel fell of or the windshield blew off in the middle of nowhere the factory tells you: oh sorry this a new model, you keep testing it and maybe if we get enough complaints we will fix it. NO!
When you pay top dollar you get a device that works out of the box,period.
HTC is using us as their testers, but makes us pay a 1000$ for it and lose our time perfecting a half-product they placed on the market before it should be released, plus the customer service treats us as idiots and lies directly : oh we got a lot of good feedback...(yeah right like I was going to call them to say how good a device is), or we dont know anything about a gps lag....f*uck you sit in the car a take a drive idiot!!
The last time I bought HTC!
Getting a nokia. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
So, what you're saying is HTC is just like Windows? ;-)
i agree htc brings out to many high tech phones.with a very high price tag.but there are always major bugs.no kinda of exception for a $900 usd phone that all of sudden does't have 3g.
now most us owners lost a good $300 of the price in less than a month because it doesn't support 3g.htc doesn't even say there working on a new radio.
i know apple brings out a new product every 90 days,at least they listen and stay with product updates.
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Do you think when you buy a porsche or a ferrari and you can not drive because the wheel fell of or the windshield blew off in the middle of nowhere the factory tells you: oh sorry this a new model, you keep testing it and maybe if we get enough complaints we will fix it. NO!
When you pay top dollar you get a device that works out of the box,period.
HTC is using us as their testers, but makes us pay a 1000$ for it and lose our time perfecting a half-product they placed on the market before it should be released, plus the customer service treats us as idiots and lies directly : oh we got a lot of good feedback...(yeah right like I was going to call them to say how good a device is), or we dont know anything about a gps lag....f*uck you sit in the car a take a drive idiot!!
The last time I bought HTC!
Getting a nokia. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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Oh come on. Everyone knows that if you are an early adopter, things never work quite as they ought to. Happens with every major tech release. It shouldn't but it does.
The reality is that the majority of features on the TP work just fine and fortunately thanks to the geniuses on this forum, the GPS lag has been all but eliminated. No doubt at some point (provided we press HTC), a fix will be released.
So when you get your Nokia, you should look forward to a whole different set of problems - no platform is even close to perfect.
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i agree htc brings out to many high tech phones.with a very high price tag.but there are always major bugs.no kinda of exception for a $900 usd phone that all of sudden does't have 3g.
now most us owners lost a good $300 of the price in less than a month because it doesn't support 3g.htc doesn't even say there working on a new radio.
i know apple brings out a new product every 90 days,at least they listen and stay with product updates.
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This post I really can't agree with, when they released it they never intended it for North American sale, and you knew that when you bought it. Did you read the part in the specs where it said UMTS 900/2100? If you did, you should've said "hey, this doesn't work with 3G on AT&T... I'm not going to buy it." Why don't we blame Toyota for their Corolla not running on diesel? Oh yeah, because it was never meant to.
When I got my N95, the battery life was terrible, it kept running out of memory and i had to use hacks to bypass their silly protection and install unsigned apps. I also had to use nemesis suite to hack the device and change the product code to prevent it from loosing Greek when I used Nokia's updater to upgrade the firmware, which cannot be downgraded and now, newer devices and latest firmwares cannot be hacked yet, so if you do buy one you won't be able to install unsigned apps.
At least with HTCs we have this magnificent community to create custom ROMs and rectify most problems. Just my .2 cents
Hands down...best $1100 I've spent in a long time. I knew going into it that I wouldn't have 3G here in the US. The advantages I have over my T-Mobile Wing (US HTC Phone) is countless. I have minimal glitches, but with all phones that do more than make calls, it is to be expected. I'll be a beta tester anytime for HTC!
i totally agree with the OP,in other hand if the devices were perfect we would not have XDA devs
what 1 must realize in todays competitive markets things get rushed out the door to make a buck ,hence why all devices will be never out of beta stage. there is 2 solutions for the problem; 1- stop buying new devices .2- learn to live with it.
well the thing is that HTC doesent even want to realize that their devices have flaws. And all the flaws are software related. In other words fixable. just look at the TyTn2 and the driver issues there. There still is no fix from HTC. And people here on the forum had to use drivers from the Diamond to fix it. HTC just keeps on making excuses like the HTC Pro was never ment to be a multimedia device when support is confronted with the fact that the TP plays video poorer that the Diamond. I know that the pro istn a multimedia device. But i expect that the hardware that i have paid alot of money for actually does what its supposed to. Why on earth shouldnt it? I love my TP, but HTC should reallt take care of their reputation..
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i totally agree with the OP,in other hand if the devices were perfect we would not have XDA devs
what 1 must realize in todays competitive markets things get rushed out the door to make a buck ,hence why all devices will be never out of beta stage. there is 2 solutions for the problem; 1- stop buying new devices .2- learn to live with it.
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ey man nice to see you again here...
take care and hope everything will be nice for you and yours....
Cheers
I've been developing software for mobile devices for five years, and worked with hundreds of models of handset from Europe and North America. I'd rate HTC devices as "above average" in terms of quality. Nokia are neither better nor worse. Get the first Nokia models of a new series, you're in for some "fun".
I have a Nokia. The MP3 player causes the phone to reboot randomly. If I cross timezones, then when I get home, some birthdays in the calendar have moved to the wrong day. Sometimes, it suddenly stops working, saying that the "SIM Locked", and I can't make or receive calls until I reboot it. It's Orange branded, so the Nokia firmware update tool won't support it. Other than that, it works a treat...
I could give you a similar list of problems with other Nokia models, or Sony Ericssons, or Motorolas... and I wouldn't even consider a Samsung, NEC or LG.
And I suspect that anyone buying a Ferrari for the reliability will be sorely disappointed.
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well the thing is that HTC doesent even want to realize that their devices have flaws. And all the flaws are software related. In other words fixable. just look at the TyTn2 and the driver issues there. There still is no fix from HTC. And people here on the forum had to use drivers from the Diamond to fix it. HTC just keeps on making excuses like the HTC Pro was never ment to be a multimedia device when support is confronted with the fact that the TP plays video poorer that the Diamond. I know that the pro istn a multimedia device. But i expect that the hardware that i have paid alot of money for actually does what its supposed to. Why on earth shouldnt it? I love my TP, but HTC should reallt take care of their reputation..
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and they will never fix that issue because their attention is in the new devices...sad but true.
@jcespi2005
thanks! and the same to you and yours.nice to see you here
It seems to me that what's getting under your skin the most is that customer service is saying their aren't serious problems, and that the phone is primarily working as intended.
Well, thats their job. Have you not ever seen a CSC in person at a corporate office? It's a bunch of highschool grads who don't know anything about anything that just talk nice, create a ticket in whatever helpdesk software they are using, and forward it or close it.
Just call in, politely state your problem, and if they get enough calls logged, development takes notice and things get fixed.
I think what you need more than an $1100 phone, is a $20.00 script for Xanax. Best of luck with Nokia though.
Mobile phone manufacturer in 'not everything works properly' shocker.
Our brand new Audi had a digital display that was on the blink from the moment we bought it. And sometimes the front windows would lower themselves 6 inches after you'd locked the car and walked away. Lots of other owners had the same thing. Think Audi fixed it? Fixed any of them? The replacement Porsche (I'm not showing off here by the way) has an lumpy idle, unreliable horn and the steering pulls harshly to the left. Fixes from Porsche? As if.
In common with a previous poster, my experience with Nokias was far more frustrating than with HTC. And if you want diabolical, allow me a few hours to relate my experience of being the fairly happy owner of a Sony Ericsson P800 even happier with the P900 and then to be floored by the abomination that was the P910. Never never again.
Yes mobile phone manufacturers are guilty of getting things wrong, but in that knowlege, I'm just happy I own an HTC and know about this forum.
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I'm just happy I own an HTC and know about this forum.
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I second that statement!
rb14 said:
Mobile phone manufacturer in 'not everything works properly' shocker.
Our brand new Audi had a digital display that was on the blink from the moment we bought it. And sometimes the front windows would lower themselves 6 inches after you'd locked the car and walked away. Lots of other owners had the same thing. Think Audi fixed it? Fixed any of them? The replacement Porsche (I'm not showing off here by the way) has an lumpy idle, unreliable horn and the steering pulls harshly to the left. Fixes from Porsche? As if.
In common with a previous poster, my experience with Nokias was far more frustrating than with HTC. And if you want diabolical, allow me a few hours to relate my experience of being the fairly happy owner of a Sony Ericsson P800 even happier with the P900 and then to be floored by the abomination that was the P910. Never never again.
Yes mobile phone manufacturers are guilty of getting things wrong, but in that knowlege, I'm just happy I own an HTC and know about this forum.
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Amen to that brother. While I may not own the Touch Pro, Fuze, or whatever the hell you feel like calling it, I know for me personally, HTC has put out some of the best phones I've ever used. I remember way back when, I was in love the Moto Razr (ew, I know) but then I laid eyes on the good ol' boy that was the Cingular 8125 aka the Wizard. I've been hooked on HTC ever since. Lets face it, if you try to go back to a cheesy ass LG or Samsung phone, you're going to be disappointed as all hell. They just don't compare to the customizable nature of the WinMo HTC devices. Granted pretty much all of HTC phones have had (and still have) their share of issues, but lets get real here, they are simply the ****. I've had my 8525 since its release and there's no way I'd switch to the X1 for example. SE?? Would you rather have a WinMo rookie in SE or the season veteran that is HTC? I don't know about you guys, but I like experience.
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I don't know about you guys, but I like experience.
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experience in what? deploying bugs?
@zex11 I agree with you.. but we don't have so many alternatives in WM area.
and nokia is not the solution..
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I think what you need more than an $1100 phone, is a $20.00 script for Xanax. Best of luck with Nokia though.
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Put this in my sig, legendary. haha
Hopefully when Microsoft gets off their lazy asses and overhauls the OS, it will be easier for the manufactures to make a reliable device.
Hi, new to HTC phones, been an apple fanboy, but now I'm trying out different phones. I've been eyeing this one, HTC Fuze of late, cause mainly, I don't have a data plan and don't plan on too either. I want to know what owners think about this phone, and I can decide from there.
I mean many youtube comments of reviews over this phone been on both sides, and I mean the phone has been discontinued and people say from all the bugs and problems.
Sway me people on the XDA forums! Are you happy with the choice of this phone and recommend it? Or pull me out of its death trap.
Please comment cause it would really help. Thank you.
Fuze is a pretty good cell phone.It's vga lcd is impressing!!!
I use mine daily for work & leisure with a TAEL ROM, works fine for me I like it.
If you can live without a keyboard it may be worth looking at the Diamond 2.
These devices are good but you do need to more technically capable to get the most from them.
Will be sticking to mine for a while as minimal button & no d-pad devices are ****e in the real world, I have yet to see anyone who can type as fast & error free on a touch keyboard.
I've had my fuze since it came out and i love it. I usually run the latest energy rom on mine though and I didn't like the phone near as much without it. So my advice is if you have a little computer know-how and are willing to read the forums the hardware is just fine and everything is here to make the fuze exactly what you want it to be, well aside from the 1Ghz speed and wvga res of the new gen of phones I'd say go for it
Oh and I second the look at the diamond 2 if you don't need hardware keys cause it has a better blue tooth stack, but no keyboard means I won't buy personally
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Hi, new to HTC phones, been an apple fanboy, but now I'm trying out different phones. I've been eyeing this one, HTC Fuze of late, cause mainly, I don't have a data plan and don't plan on too either. I want to know what owners think about this phone, and I can decide from there.
I mean many youtube comments of reviews over this phone been on both sides, and I mean the phone has been discontinued and people say from all the bugs and problems.
Sway me people on the XDA forums! Are you happy with the choice of this phone and recommend it? Or pull me out of its death trap.
Please comment cause it would really help. Thank you.
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for around 100 bucks its a really solid phone assuming you only need english load up the latest http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=536751 energy rom(id suggust cookie 23xxx builds) and all those problems disappear (except camera, still as in reviews)
once you put the new roms on it you would think it was released in late 2009
So does any one know what are the best roms and changes?
it all depends on which phone did you previously used...if you have used low level phone..then definately you will like this......i love this phone.....especially when using energy roms.....as previously i had htc opal.....
I had the HTC Fuze and the problem with these phone with a keyboard is that it will eventually break over time. The phone was also thick and heavy. Oh yeah, the D-pad was practically unusable. I dont know if the Touch Pro shares the same problem as the Fuze. Anyways the main thing that got me to sell the phone was the keyboard breaking.
the board will break????
So, I'm on the Legend (previous Hero) and I'm tired of HTC updating FW. I want pure Google.....
I'm not particularly "happy" or impressed with the Nexus S. It's basically a year old phone...bla bla, you know what I mean. It SHOULD have been more impressive. Right now it's being overshadowed by nearly every new phone, even the new SE phone. Who would have thought.........perhaps Google didn't want the Nexus to outshine other phones, but wanted a safe/tested platform to test new Android on?
BUT I'm willing to give it a try, only because I hate HTC and their update policy. But I have to get this from the US since I'm in Europe and....I'm uncertain about the build quality and hardware quality. A lot of people are reporting problem allready. If I get it, I prob won't be able to return it for warranty.
How safe a bet would getting the Nexus S be?
ANOTHER one of these posts? Seriously, there's tons of threads about people "unsure" of the Nexus S. Why not post there or something.
Me, personally, I love the Nexus S, much better than the crappy Nexus One I had, which has/had REAL issues. Nexus S? It has ZERO issues for me.
Sounds already you don't want the Nexus S, by saying you're not happy/impressed/year old phone/etc.. so don't get it. We're not going to convince you otherwise.
This thread is pointless.
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I'm tired of HTC updating FW. I want pure Google.....
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That's all that matters.
there's no safe bet
there will always be a new phone around the corner with better of everything
if you need a new phone now, buy it
if not, keep waiting for the next best thing
There only seems to be a lot of issues for the Nexus S. People that are not having issues are not posting nearly as much (or not at all) as those that are experiencing some kind of issue. By that, I mean starting new threads with "x is broken, check yours?!"
Personally, I love my Nexus S and I am experiencing no issues. If you keep waiting because there is a newer phone around the corner, you'll end up never getting a new phone.
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There only seems to be a lot of issues for the Nexus S. People that are not having issues are not posting nearly as much (or not at all) as those that are experiencing some kind of issue.
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Exactly, and a common phenomenon across any product-related forum. Most of the happy people with no problems don't spend time posting how much they love their device on a forum, unless they're like many of the regulars here who just love chatting in the forum about the device or trying to help others. (The Development section's a different beast, of course.)
A personal example is me and the Ford/Microsoft Sync forums. I've only ever visited them when I was having issues with my Sync features. To read those forums you'd think Sync and MyFordTouch was total crap, but they're not, once you get past the few problems early adopters had. I haven't been back to the forums there since resolving mine, because I'm not really interested enough in the product to talk about it a lot.
If you want pure Google then it is definitely a safe bet. How often to any other pure Google phones come out?
Even though my I know my nexus s is outclassed by the newer DC phones coming out, I am still keeping it because I know when honeycomb comes out for phones the NS get it and all the other phones will be stuck on 2.2.
So yes its worth it to me.
I have a wifi xoom and although it has some great features but the force closes and the non functioning sd card (from the factory) is very annoying. I thought Moto and google would have a fix by now. The force closes make me mad. I have 15 days left to return and will do so if there is not a major update before then. I should have know better than to expect Moto to do anything right.
Here is an quote from an article in the Wall Street Journal about xoom sales.
"Global Equities analyst Trip Chowdry estimates that Motorola Mobility has manufactured between 500,000 and 800,000 Xooms, but has sold only 5 to 15 percent of them.
Best case scenario then, according to Chowdry, is that Motorola has sold 120,000 Xooms; worse case scenario, it’s sold just 25,000. Now, admittedly, that’s a very large range, and one could argue that it makes Chowdry’s estimate largely meaningless. But remember that original forecasts suggested Motorola would sell between 3 and 5 million Xooms this year and earlier this month some analysts were calling for first quarter sales of 300,000.
In other words, even Chowdry’s best case scenario is a worst case scenario. It’s just a bit less ugly."
Personally, I could care less how many have been sold. I love my Xoom and maybe I'm lucky but I haven't faced many of the problems I read about here.
As for SD card support, I'm not bothered by that either. I have no need for a SD card at this time. 32GB is plenty of storage for me.
I'm treating Honeycomb the same way I did with android 1.0. Its basically a new platform and the apps and fixes will come as more tablets hit the market.
I heard all the same jargon in the media after I pre-ordered my G1. Well look at android now.
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Personally, I could care less how many have been sold. I love my Xoom and maybe I'm lucky but I haven't faced many of the problems I read about here.
As for SD card support, I'm not bothered by that either. I have no need for a SD card at this time. 32GB is plenty of storage for me.
I'm treating Honeycomb the same way I did with android 1.0. Its basically a new platform and the apps and fixes will come as more tablets hit the market.
I heard all the same jargon in the media after I pre-ordered my G1. Well look at android now.
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I feel the same way. No announcement was made as to when an update would come. I'm sure everyone knew the SD slot wasn't functioning way before they purchased the device.
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It will be DOA if we keep starting threads like "Is the XOOM DOA" and prospective customers see all these threads in search engines.
Then prospective customers start having unfounded doubts and the XOOM's demise becomes a self-fulfilling prophesy.
First of all, many of us knew that Xoom won't sell that well. This is because it's new, OS is new, hardware is new, everything about it is new and many people don't want to be lab rats. But with Moto rolling out Xoom on other networks in many countries will help sales. And we will have to wait till Thursday for Motorola to announce their earnings and see how many they sold.
Secondly, I understand the frustration of lacking SD support but I personally don't really care since I never really used my microSD on my N900.
And about force closes, like I said everything about Xoom is new and it was first to the punch. Other honeycomb tabs will have everything working, but Xoom was still first and that what counts.
I would never return mine, I would never even sell mine after Xoom2 arrives. Why? Because it is the first and maybe even one of the only "Pure Google Experience" devices that will be available.
Simple answer. No.
Sent from my Xoom the way it should be, rooted and with SD card.
Google needs to release a big Honeycomb update including one that enables the mircoSD card slot, Motorola needs to lower the price and release 16GB models and more manufactures need to release more tablets which will bring in more tablet apps. If you had your Xoom since day one like I have, you will already see the improvement in the selection of tablet apps. I hope that the microSD card slot is fixed soon though. Watching the new tablets come out with working slots is starting to make the Xoom look abandoned.
Despite this, I love my Xoom and it will get better with time. Who else has a working Barometer by the way? lol
i don't care about the sd card function cause i still have 32GB for my media. however, i have a terrible experience with my xoom's web browser ( even i tried another web browser apps like dophin...)Yes, surfing web is the main point for me to buy this tablet. Web browser is FC a lot (besides, it made my xoom rebooted once), stuck at loading pages (i have to go to app manager=> force close web browser..), Flash doesn't work properly. I never had this terrible experience with my android devices before. I understand that Honeycomb is a new OS, and it will be improved over by next updates but how can't google/motorola/ adobe make sure some basic functions work well before selling their products ?
What would have all the customers who went to buy an ipad2 have done when they got to the store and were told they would have to take a number and wait a month or more? BUY A XOOM!!! This was great timing for Moto to deliver the product but kinda sucks for the consumer at first. However, this is not the first time a company has done this. And as someone laready pointed out, if you have had the Xoom from day one you will have already seen the improvement in the app market. Also remember that the honeycomb source has not been released yet. When that happens you will see things explode here on XDA. So if you have filled up your 32g internal storage, and their just are not enough apps for you at this time and so on........return your Xoom and take a number for the ipad! (it has Netflix out of the box). If you are one of those people who just like to complain, well then I got nothing for you. Otherwise be patient and enjoy what you have. Good things WILL come to our Xoom's!!!
For the record: I have NEVER considered an ipad. And I am very happy with my Xoom!
I just don't get these type of posts. So because you hated the xoom or the wsj says it hasn't sold enough everyone else should go and return their xooms. What should I get an I pad 2? What if I want my websites to work with flash? What if I want actual multitasking? So get an I pad 2 that doesn't even have an SD slot forget when it will be activated.
Anyway, I have been happy with the xoom.
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I just don't get these type of posts. So because you hated the xoom or the wsj says it hasn't sold enough everyone else should go and return their xooms. What should I get an I pad 2? What if I want my websites to work with flash? What if I want actual multitasking? So get an I pad 2 that doesn't even have an SD slot forget when it will be activated.
Anyway, I have been happy with the xoom.
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i don't want to get a lot of FC on my web browser. this is the only thing i complain.
I want the Xoom to work. I do not own a single Apple product. I am not patient enough to wait months for the Xoom and Honeycomb to work. I want to be able to root and load new themes and Myn's Warm Honeycomb but Google has already said they would not release the sources code anytime soon.
If no one is buying the Xoom, the developers will not develop apps and it may never reach the point where it is a commercial success. I will stick with the Xoom if a significant upgrade comes very soon.
Everywhere I go the xoom seems to be sold out and people are constantly asking for it. It may not have that "Apple" demand but people are interested, I love mine, cant wait for some more apps and updates to come out so it will be a beast!
this post is DOA
This is the beauty of Android, It doesn't matter about the Xoom Google will keep developing 3.0 and onward.
with Apple if interest in a new product dips it dies!
Thats why clean OS's like the xoom will always win the day and thats why extra software just slows down development!
there is more sense in nonsense
remember that!
We do need a way to release frustration and these blogs are it. This is a first honeycomb version, effectively a beta. On the other hand, I feel for Motorola, as when that update comes long, they will have to spend millions double handling the already sold Xoom.
Don't get me wrong, I love my Xoom, and I can see its potential.
I am sure one of the reasons people are not buying Xooms is that thay'd rather wait until it is finished, and some more of bugs are squashed (See googles bug tracket) the SD card is one of the lesser problems.
When that happens we will be riding a steeper adoption curve that will scare apple a little.
I found that every store in the st. Louis area that carries the xoom was sold out so I had to order mine from amazon (not a big fan). So its a bit shocking to hear that sales are bad. Maybe they just didn't make enough. Maybe its been selling fine for motorola and its the market that had unrealistic expectations.
In any case, I think as more manufactures produce more honeycomb tablets the momentum will pick up just like what happened with android phones. The g1 did not exactly fly off the self when it was introduced. Hell I didn't which from blackberry until recently.
Some of this is part of being an early adopter. I mine the ipad2 is simiply a scaled up iphone so no surprise that it works well the os has been out for some time. Honeycomb is a much bigger jump for android and therefore the problems
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The crazy amount of FUD surrounding the xoom makes me wonder if there's some propaganda machine in operation.
I don't even think that the problem is the software or bugs. I think the main thing that hurt the Xoom is price. After announcing the price Motorola did not listen to consumers and they stuck with their pricing, which ultimately hurt the success of the xoom. Prime example is the Asus Transformer, they are flying of shelves, not because of the dock as much as the price.
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I found that every store in the st. Louis area that carries the xoom was sold out so I had to order mine from amazon (not a big fan). So its a bit shocking to hear that sales are bad. Maybe they just didn't make enough. Maybe its been selling fine for motorola and its the market that had unrealistic expectations.
In any case, I think as more manufactures produce more honeycomb tablets the momentum will pick up just like what happened with android phones. The g1 did not exactly fly off the self when it was introduced. Hell I didn't which from blackberry until recently.
Some of this is part of being an early adopter. I mine the ipad2 is simiply a scaled up iphone so no surprise that it works well the os has been out for some time. Honeycomb is a much bigger jump for android and therefore the problems
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HC is new, but overall it is still based on android. Why does it have a lot of bugs?
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From what I have seen so far ... stores are sold out, dont have accesories, (which means it is obviously selling out) and in best buy the tablets are with the computers (not with the tablets!), how are people/consumers supposed to know about it and that it is a tablet that is better than the pad when there is a big ipad2 display while the xoom is over by all the laptops and when you ask for it they take you to the zune stuff?
Oh well, and from what i have seen lately, displays are popping up, I have seen more commercials on tv, and now I hope store start stocking it to show it off.. that is the only way to sell it. I think the xoom will do just fine and as it was mentioned earlier in this thread, xoom will not die because android will not die, just wait and see
XOOM FTW!
Hi people.
It's my first post in here, and, firstly, i may appologize myself for being a little "repetitive". I already read a lot of similar threads, but none of these answer my question. And, besides it, none of the threads considered a lot of conditions that certainly influence my choice.
I'm about to buy a Tablet, i have 2 options, but i'm still stucked in wich one to buy.
Again, i'm sorry for being repetitive, but this was the last mean i found to finally help me decide wich one.
First, the conditions i'm in(the most relevant are numbere in red):
1- Both tablets (Motorola Xoom 32gb WiFi only and a500), are priced almost in the same(in U$ equivalent U$700);
2- I live in Brazil, and in here all the tech is overpriced, no way i can buy one tablet for the "real" price, or lower, the tech support is hard to reach(specially Acer's one). Considering this fact, when Xoom arrived in here it's cost was something like U$1000, so, it's almost -U$300 now. So, guys, buying it for -U$300 in my conditions, is a great deal.
3- Motorola is about to release the new version of Xoom, so, one of my questions is just about this... Will the support(updates, etc) to Xoom be discontinued? If so, it still be a good option?
4- I loved the full USB port of a500's, but i have a baad, bad, bad history with Acer's support,because, as i said, I live in Brazil, and in here there's no "cheap" technology, and all the support stuff takes a long long time to be solved. in other hand, the Motorola is present in here. And with it i had more "happy enddings" than with Acer(that never fixed my notebook);
5- Again about the USB... I read that Xoom has also support for USB hosting, and i will be able to use a physical keyboard, instead of a Touch one, and, many other features just like: using Pen-drivers, external HD's, mouse & keyboard, whatever... The Xoom has the same support? It's easy to use it's USB capabillities?(with a proper USB OTG host cable, of course)
6- Let's say that Brazil isn't the "safiest" of the countries, specially the city i live in(Rio). Considering this, wich one is more easily to behiden on a backpack, or a bag?
7- I already used a a500 and i noticed that it does not run smoother as i thought. It "freezes" quickly in the main screen, and the app/game(City Jump 2 and CK Zombies) took several seconds to load, but ran nice. In the Xoom is the same?
8- Is it possible to make WiFi Tethering between both of the Tablet's and my Phone(Galaxy Ace)?
So, considering these facts, wich one is more "indicated" to me? Wich one worth's more?
It's a tricky question, but it will surely help me decide what to buy and where do i will invest a LOT of my money in.
Thanks for all of the answers.
p.s.: I appologize myself again, for this question, but i think it was more recommended to make this questions to you, that probably had some experience and/or own one or both tablets.
p.s2.: Don't think if it's necessary, but, i should use the Tablet in College, for games, and etc. And i don't care for the lack of 3G, since i have a mobile with 3G support and a 3G plan.
Please, guys, anyone?? In a few hours i will buy the thing! =(
I wouldn't buy the XOOM since XOOM 2 is just around the corner.
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imo, the xoom 2 is a DOWNGRADE...
n4ndoz said:
Hi people.
It's my first post in here, and, firstly, i may appologize myself for being a little "repetitive". I already read a lot of similar threads, but none of these answer my question. And, besides it, none of the threads considered a lot of conditions that certainly influence my choice.
I'm about to buy a Tablet, i have 2 options, but i'm still stucked in wich one to buy.
Again, i'm sorry for being repetitive, but this was the last mean i found to finally help me decide wich one.
First, the conditions i'm in(the most relevant are numbere in red):
1- Both tablets (Motorola Xoom 32gb WiFi only and a500), are priced almost in the same(in U$ equivalent U$700);
2- I live in Brazil, and in here all the tech is overpriced, no way i can buy one tablet for the "real" price, or lower, the tech support is hard to reach(specially Acer's one). Considering this fact, when Xoom arrived in here it's cost was something like U$1000, so, it's almost -U$300 now. So, guys, buying it for -U$300 in my conditions, is a great deal.
3- Motorola is about to release the new version of Xoom, so, one of my questions is just about this... Will the support(updates, etc) to Xoom be discontinued? If so, it still be a good option?
4- I loved the full USB port of a500's, but i have a baad, bad, bad history with Acer's support,because, as i said, I live in Brazil, and in here there's no "cheap" technology, and all the support stuff takes a long long time to be solved. in other hand, the Motorola is present in here. And with it i had more "happy enddings" than with Acer(that never fixed my notebook);
5- Again about the USB... I read that Xoom has also support for USB hosting, and i will be able to use a physical keyboard, instead of a Touch one, and, many other features just like: using Pen-drivers, external HD's, mouse & keyboard, whatever... The Xoom has the same support? It's easy to use it's USB capabillities?(with a proper USB OTG host cable, of course)
6- Let's say that Brazil isn't the "safiest" of the countries, specially the city i live in(Rio). Considering this, wich one is more easily to behiden on a backpack, or a bag?
7- I already used a a500 and i noticed that it does not run smoother as i thought. It "freezes" quickly in the main screen, and the app/game(City Jump 2 and CK Zombies) took several seconds to load, but ran nice. In the Xoom is the same?
8- Is it possible to make WiFi Tethering between both of the Tablet's and my Phone(Galaxy Ace)?
So, considering these facts, wich one is more "indicated" to me? Wich one worth's more?
It's a tricky question, but it will surely help me decide what to buy and where do i will invest a LOT of my money in.
Thanks for all of the answers.
p.s.: I appologize myself again, for this question, but i think it was more recommended to make this questions to you, that probably had some experience and/or own one or both tablets.
p.s2.: Don't think if it's necessary, but, i should use the Tablet in College, for games, and etc. And i don't care for the lack of 3G, since i have a mobile with 3G support and a 3G plan.
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For all those questions, I think the original Xoom is your best bet. Especially if you plan to unlock/root it and flash a custom kernel, or else update to Ice Cream Sandwich when it's released.
Sorry to answer you late...hope you made the decision for the Xoom.
okantomi said:
For all those questions, I think the original Xoom is your best bet. Especially if you plan to unlock/root it and flash a custom kernel, or else update to Ice Cream Sandwich when it's released.
Sorry to answer you late...hope you made the decision for the Xoom.
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Man, thanks for the help, all of you.
I bought the Xoom!!
I'm glad to have such a piece of hardware!! The only thing i'm not that happy is with the "Protective Film"(don't know the exact name in english) for the screen. It's very, very, very hard to apply. =)
n4ndoz said:
Man, thanks for the help, all of you.
I bought the Xoom!!
I'm glad to have such a piece of hardware!! The only thing i'm not that happy is with the "Protective Film"(don't know the exact name in english) for the screen. It's very, very, very hard to apply. =)
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There are lots of different types of screen protectors--different brands and ways to apply. See this thread for some different information if you don't like the one you have. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=985885
Hey, okantomi!!
U know if the Steinheil shipps worldwide?
BEcause i'm in Brazil, an in here it's hard to find such a Screen shield.
Well, i hope they ship this, 'cause i hate finger prints, scratches, etc.
Btw, one last question...
If, one day i break my screen, Motorola changes it to me? Or is better to buy a new tab?
Thanks a lot.
n4ndoz said:
Hey, okantomi!!
U know if the Steinheil shipps worldwide?
BEcause i'm in Brazil, an in here it's hard to find such a Screen shield.
Well, i hope they ship this, 'cause i hate finger prints, scratches, etc.
Btw, one last question...
If, one day i break my screen, Motorola changes it to me? Or is better to buy a new tab?
Thanks a lot.
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I think Motorola would change your screen but it would cost you a bit of money. But be careful, keep it in a case, and it should be ok. I don't know where Steinheil ships. I agree that the screen protectors that reduce glare and fingerprints are great!