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Thoughts on the HTC Fuze?

Hi, new to HTC phones, been an apple fanboy, but now I'm trying out different phones. I've been eyeing this one, HTC Fuze of late, cause mainly, I don't have a data plan and don't plan on too either. I want to know what owners think about this phone, and I can decide from there.
I mean many youtube comments of reviews over this phone been on both sides, and I mean the phone has been discontinued and people say from all the bugs and problems.
Sway me people on the XDA forums! Are you happy with the choice of this phone and recommend it? Or pull me out of its death trap.
Please comment cause it would really help. Thank you.

Fuze is a pretty good cell phone.It's vga lcd is impressing!!!

I use mine daily for work & leisure with a TAEL ROM, works fine for me I like it.
If you can live without a keyboard it may be worth looking at the Diamond 2.
These devices are good but you do need to more technically capable to get the most from them.
Will be sticking to mine for a while as minimal button & no d-pad devices are ****e in the real world, I have yet to see anyone who can type as fast & error free on a touch keyboard.

I've had my fuze since it came out and i love it. I usually run the latest energy rom on mine though and I didn't like the phone near as much without it. So my advice is if you have a little computer know-how and are willing to read the forums the hardware is just fine and everything is here to make the fuze exactly what you want it to be, well aside from the 1Ghz speed and wvga res of the new gen of phones I'd say go for it
Oh and I second the look at the diamond 2 if you don't need hardware keys cause it has a better blue tooth stack, but no keyboard means I won't buy personally

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pwntatochips said:
Hi, new to HTC phones, been an apple fanboy, but now I'm trying out different phones. I've been eyeing this one, HTC Fuze of late, cause mainly, I don't have a data plan and don't plan on too either. I want to know what owners think about this phone, and I can decide from there.
I mean many youtube comments of reviews over this phone been on both sides, and I mean the phone has been discontinued and people say from all the bugs and problems.
Sway me people on the XDA forums! Are you happy with the choice of this phone and recommend it? Or pull me out of its death trap.
Please comment cause it would really help. Thank you.
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for around 100 bucks its a really solid phone assuming you only need english load up the latest http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=536751 energy rom(id suggust cookie 23xxx builds) and all those problems disappear (except camera, still as in reviews)
once you put the new roms on it you would think it was released in late 2009

So does any one know what are the best roms and changes?

it all depends on which phone did you previously used...if you have used low level phone..then definately you will like this......i love this phone.....especially when using energy roms.....as previously i had htc opal.....

I had the HTC Fuze and the problem with these phone with a keyboard is that it will eventually break over time. The phone was also thick and heavy. Oh yeah, the D-pad was practically unusable. I dont know if the Touch Pro shares the same problem as the Fuze. Anyways the main thing that got me to sell the phone was the keyboard breaking.

the board will break????

[Q] What do you use your transformer for ?

OK... heres the thing ... its my 40th birthday coming up and the wife wants to buy me a slightly more special gift than usual
Do i:
a) end up with something that she chooses herself
b) ask for a transformer
She currently has a kindle and is raving about that so im trying to figure out what id use a tablet for over a 'kindle + HTC Desire' combo.
The transformer has no 3G (yet) so i wouldnt use it for web or email whilst out and about.
The transformer has a shiny screen so wont be as good for ebooks as a kindle.
Ive seen the asus commercial so i know the 'standard' suggested uses for a transformer - but im no teen and cant stand up on a skateboard
so .... what do you guys use your transformer for in the 'real world' ? especially with no 3G ??
I LOVE gadgets but im just struggling to justify the expense
Please help me

Adding to the wondering:
will I be able to play facebook games on it (cityville, poker,etc..) From the browser?
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Right now, I'm using mine as a laptop replacement. I haven't had to turn my Macbook on since getting ths out of the box. Its a lot easier to just pick up and use... so if you just do casual browsing, this is ideal. I have my iMac for when I'm doing 'serious' work.
DKM119 said:
Adding to the wondering:
will I be able to play facebook games on it (cityville, poker,etc..) From the browser?
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If they are flash based, then you should be able to. I haven't tested them, but everything else flash seems to work well, so I don't see why not.

Admittedly I did buy mine to use as a laptop replacement, but I'm waiting for the keyboard dock to arrive. At the moment I'm using it as an ebook reader and for general browsing - it drives my girlfriend nuts as I'm always playing with it!!
I'm not a facebook fan so can't say for sure, but it does have flash, so I don't see why not.

Planning to pick up one very very soon.
Anyway, i plan to use it as a laptop replacement (get Ubuntu running on it )
and WiFi tether it to my Captivate for teh internetz.

wilbur-force said:
The transformer has no 3G (yet) so i wouldnt use it for web or email whilst out and about.
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You could tether your Desire via Android AP which would essentially give you internet where ever you are. I did this with my XOOM and it worked very well. I had to return it though because the Transformer just seemed like a more practical option for me.

Does anyone know if the keyboard dock will be available in all countries(I'm danish)? The 32gb/no dock version is released earlier here, but I want to make sure I can get the keyboard dock later on!

defeating the decepticons

You can use it out and about with WiFi hot spot on your desire .for this reason I don't understand ,why people want 3 G model as most of the people buying tablets would have a moviles with a decent internet contract
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DKM119 said:
Adding to the wondering:
will I be able to play facebook games on it (cityville, poker,etc..) From the browser?
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I've played Facebook Scrabble on it. It's a bit picky about keypresses to select and place the tiles, but it's usable.

I use my Xoom (to be replaced with a Transformer once it's available in the US) for everything I use my notebook for except long-form writing, and I don't do that on the Xoom only because there's no physical keyboard. With the Transformer+keyboard dock, I think my HP Envy notebook will get much less work and might even go to the wife.
So, that means I do all of the following on my tablet:
1. Browsing, including all but the most hardcore research
2. Newsfeed reading
3. Email triage (best device for this by far)
4. Ebook reading for all but the longest reading sessions (when I use my Nook)
5. Ebook annotations (for research, and it's great for that)
6. Casual gaming (of course, I still play Crysis 2 and the like on the desktop)
7. Forum browsing/posting using Tapatalk
8. Note taking using the outstanding Evernote client (not optimized for Honeycomb but still quite usable)
9. Light blog posting (long-form and complex graphics still done on the notebook)
The instant-on nature of the device and the extremely long battery life means it's far more convenient to use, in more places, and more ad hoc. Whether you're sitting on the couch, lying in bed, or whatever you can grab a tablet and start using without waiting for it to boot/wake up, finding a flat surface to put it on, plugging into an outlet, etc. as you do a notebook or netbook.
The bottom line is that I'm using my Xoom even more than I thought I would. I have to give Apple credit for recognizing the value of a relatively light device running a mobile OS with really long battery life. And I think Honeycomb offers more value than iOS because it's actively useful, not just an app launcher.

You could use it to read comics on, people have started to buy tablet comics, like from this app
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.iconology.comics

I went through the decision making process as you did. I had the Amazon Kindle 2, but for me, I don't read as much as I should. So I sold it off and bought a Nook Color. Rooted it and used it to read news, manage ebay sales, emails, etc. After a while, the Nook felt too small for me to get anything done. And I required a real laptop for any true productivity when producing documents or typing out an email. A few weeks ago I sold my Nook in anticipation for the Transformer's release and I'm a bit bummed with the availability to the US.
Bottom line, if you do a lot of serious reading, then use an e-ink (Kindle) reader. Your eyes will thank you for it. If you are like me who does a lot of casual reading, then get the transformer. If you do both, then get both. Guys usually demand, i mean, expect D) less for ourselves than our counterparts, so once in a while, it's okay to treat ourselves to something nice, twice!

Kind of off-topic, but kind of related I guess:
What do you guys think of having this vs a real netbook? I was originally planning to get a DM1z, then an ASUS Eee 1215B (both use the E-350 Fusion processor). Then I discovered the Transformer. I can't decide if I should get a netbook or just get the transformer with keyboard. I will primarily be using it for leisure activities and also some school/note taking. Suggestions?

drummr8 said:
Kind of off-topic, but kind of related I guess:
What do you guys think of having this vs a real netbook? I was originally planning to get a DM1z, then an ASUS Eee 1215B (both use the E-350 Fusion processor). Then I discovered the Transformer. I can't decide if I should get a netbook or just get the transformer with keyboard. I will primarily be using it for leisure activities and also some school/note taking. Suggestions?
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haha, i'm selling my dm1z to get the transformer~
the e350 apu is slightly underpowered for me and 6 hours of [real-world] battery life is nothing to write home about...

thanks guys
can always depend on the XDA bunch when i need convincing over a gadget
transformer ordered ... arrives a week on Thursday
will keep you posted on performance etc

drummr8 said:
Kind of off-topic, but kind of related I guess:
What do you guys think of having this vs a real netbook? I was originally planning to get a DM1z, then an ASUS Eee 1215B (both use the E-350 Fusion processor). Then I discovered the Transformer. I can't decide if I should get a netbook or just get the transformer with keyboard. I will primarily be using it for leisure activities and also some school/note taking. Suggestions?
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A netbook is... well... just a netbook. It's an underpowered Intel processor (that's still not as efficient as an ARM) running a heavyweight OS (assuming you're running Windows) and with the necessary compromises in battery life. It's usable only in the standard netbook format, that is, clamshell that generally requires a flat surface to use on. It can't comfortably be used standing or lying down.
A Transformer is both a "netbook" in that it has a keyboard and can be used for tasks that need one. But, it can also be used in the tablet format, that is, with the touchscreen and in whatever situation (lying down, standing, etc.). It also runs a lightweight OS that, while a bit more limited in functionality (although less so every day) is also made to optimize power, and a power-sipping ARM processor that still provides decent performance. So, instead of 6 hours of battery life or so in the "netbook" mode, it gets 16 hours or so.
Really, the Transformer is a netbook+tablet hybrid that has the best features of both, while minimizing their weaknesses.

I was wondering what i was going to use it for to.
I have an EVO thus the only really use is for a ereader.
everything is just bigger... but i still want it. ... still trying to figure it out.
Are you guys going to buy generation 1 or wait for hardware/generation 2 to come out.

error12 said:
I was wondering what i was going to use it for to.
I have an EVO thus the only really use is for a ereader.
everything is just bigger... but i still want it. ... still trying to figure it out.
Are you guys going to buy generation 1 or wait for hardware/generation 2 to come out.
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I would buy Gen1 and enjoy the most of it. When Gen2 is about to be released, I will sell Gen1 to use towards a Gen2, but that is me.

Is Xoom DOA?

I have a wifi xoom and although it has some great features but the force closes and the non functioning sd card (from the factory) is very annoying. I thought Moto and google would have a fix by now. The force closes make me mad. I have 15 days left to return and will do so if there is not a major update before then. I should have know better than to expect Moto to do anything right.
Here is an quote from an article in the Wall Street Journal about xoom sales.
"Global Equities analyst Trip Chowdry estimates that Motorola Mobility has manufactured between 500,000 and 800,000 Xooms, but has sold only 5 to 15 percent of them.
Best case scenario then, according to Chowdry, is that Motorola has sold 120,000 Xooms; worse case scenario, it’s sold just 25,000. Now, admittedly, that’s a very large range, and one could argue that it makes Chowdry’s estimate largely meaningless. But remember that original forecasts suggested Motorola would sell between 3 and 5 million Xooms this year and earlier this month some analysts were calling for first quarter sales of 300,000.
In other words, even Chowdry’s best case scenario is a worst case scenario. It’s just a bit less ugly."

Personally, I could care less how many have been sold. I love my Xoom and maybe I'm lucky but I haven't faced many of the problems I read about here.
As for SD card support, I'm not bothered by that either. I have no need for a SD card at this time. 32GB is plenty of storage for me.
I'm treating Honeycomb the same way I did with android 1.0. Its basically a new platform and the apps and fixes will come as more tablets hit the market.
I heard all the same jargon in the media after I pre-ordered my G1. Well look at android now.

El Daddy said:
Personally, I could care less how many have been sold. I love my Xoom and maybe I'm lucky but I haven't faced many of the problems I read about here.
As for SD card support, I'm not bothered by that either. I have no need for a SD card at this time. 32GB is plenty of storage for me.
I'm treating Honeycomb the same way I did with android 1.0. Its basically a new platform and the apps and fixes will come as more tablets hit the market.
I heard all the same jargon in the media after I pre-ordered my G1. Well look at android now.
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I feel the same way. No announcement was made as to when an update would come. I'm sure everyone knew the SD slot wasn't functioning way before they purchased the device.
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It will be DOA if we keep starting threads like "Is the XOOM DOA" and prospective customers see all these threads in search engines.
Then prospective customers start having unfounded doubts and the XOOM's demise becomes a self-fulfilling prophesy.

First of all, many of us knew that Xoom won't sell that well. This is because it's new, OS is new, hardware is new, everything about it is new and many people don't want to be lab rats. But with Moto rolling out Xoom on other networks in many countries will help sales. And we will have to wait till Thursday for Motorola to announce their earnings and see how many they sold.
Secondly, I understand the frustration of lacking SD support but I personally don't really care since I never really used my microSD on my N900.
And about force closes, like I said everything about Xoom is new and it was first to the punch. Other honeycomb tabs will have everything working, but Xoom was still first and that what counts.
I would never return mine, I would never even sell mine after Xoom2 arrives. Why? Because it is the first and maybe even one of the only "Pure Google Experience" devices that will be available.

Simple answer. No.
Sent from my Xoom the way it should be, rooted and with SD card.

Google needs to release a big Honeycomb update including one that enables the mircoSD card slot, Motorola needs to lower the price and release 16GB models and more manufactures need to release more tablets which will bring in more tablet apps. If you had your Xoom since day one like I have, you will already see the improvement in the selection of tablet apps. I hope that the microSD card slot is fixed soon though. Watching the new tablets come out with working slots is starting to make the Xoom look abandoned.
Despite this, I love my Xoom and it will get better with time. Who else has a working Barometer by the way? lol

i don't care about the sd card function cause i still have 32GB for my media. however, i have a terrible experience with my xoom's web browser ( even i tried another web browser apps like dophin...)Yes, surfing web is the main point for me to buy this tablet. Web browser is FC a lot (besides, it made my xoom rebooted once), stuck at loading pages (i have to go to app manager=> force close web browser..), Flash doesn't work properly. I never had this terrible experience with my android devices before. I understand that Honeycomb is a new OS, and it will be improved over by next updates but how can't google/motorola/ adobe make sure some basic functions work well before selling their products ?

What would have all the customers who went to buy an ipad2 have done when they got to the store and were told they would have to take a number and wait a month or more? BUY A XOOM!!! This was great timing for Moto to deliver the product but kinda sucks for the consumer at first. However, this is not the first time a company has done this. And as someone laready pointed out, if you have had the Xoom from day one you will have already seen the improvement in the app market. Also remember that the honeycomb source has not been released yet. When that happens you will see things explode here on XDA. So if you have filled up your 32g internal storage, and their just are not enough apps for you at this time and so on........return your Xoom and take a number for the ipad! (it has Netflix out of the box). If you are one of those people who just like to complain, well then I got nothing for you. Otherwise be patient and enjoy what you have. Good things WILL come to our Xoom's!!!
For the record: I have NEVER considered an ipad. And I am very happy with my Xoom!

I just don't get these type of posts. So because you hated the xoom or the wsj says it hasn't sold enough everyone else should go and return their xooms. What should I get an I pad 2? What if I want my websites to work with flash? What if I want actual multitasking? So get an I pad 2 that doesn't even have an SD slot forget when it will be activated.
Anyway, I have been happy with the xoom.
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tumbes20000 said:
I just don't get these type of posts. So because you hated the xoom or the wsj says it hasn't sold enough everyone else should go and return their xooms. What should I get an I pad 2? What if I want my websites to work with flash? What if I want actual multitasking? So get an I pad 2 that doesn't even have an SD slot forget when it will be activated.
Anyway, I have been happy with the xoom.
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i don't want to get a lot of FC on my web browser. this is the only thing i complain.

I want the Xoom to work. I do not own a single Apple product. I am not patient enough to wait months for the Xoom and Honeycomb to work. I want to be able to root and load new themes and Myn's Warm Honeycomb but Google has already said they would not release the sources code anytime soon.
If no one is buying the Xoom, the developers will not develop apps and it may never reach the point where it is a commercial success. I will stick with the Xoom if a significant upgrade comes very soon.

Everywhere I go the xoom seems to be sold out and people are constantly asking for it. It may not have that "Apple" demand but people are interested, I love mine, cant wait for some more apps and updates to come out so it will be a beast!

this post is DOA
This is the beauty of Android, It doesn't matter about the Xoom Google will keep developing 3.0 and onward.
with Apple if interest in a new product dips it dies!
Thats why clean OS's like the xoom will always win the day and thats why extra software just slows down development!
there is more sense in nonsense
remember that!

We do need a way to release frustration and these blogs are it. This is a first honeycomb version, effectively a beta. On the other hand, I feel for Motorola, as when that update comes long, they will have to spend millions double handling the already sold Xoom.
Don't get me wrong, I love my Xoom, and I can see its potential.
I am sure one of the reasons people are not buying Xooms is that thay'd rather wait until it is finished, and some more of bugs are squashed (See googles bug tracket) the SD card is one of the lesser problems.
When that happens we will be riding a steeper adoption curve that will scare apple a little.

I found that every store in the st. Louis area that carries the xoom was sold out so I had to order mine from amazon (not a big fan). So its a bit shocking to hear that sales are bad. Maybe they just didn't make enough. Maybe its been selling fine for motorola and its the market that had unrealistic expectations.
In any case, I think as more manufactures produce more honeycomb tablets the momentum will pick up just like what happened with android phones. The g1 did not exactly fly off the self when it was introduced. Hell I didn't which from blackberry until recently.
Some of this is part of being an early adopter. I mine the ipad2 is simiply a scaled up iphone so no surprise that it works well the os has been out for some time. Honeycomb is a much bigger jump for android and therefore the problems
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The crazy amount of FUD surrounding the xoom makes me wonder if there's some propaganda machine in operation.

I don't even think that the problem is the software or bugs. I think the main thing that hurt the Xoom is price. After announcing the price Motorola did not listen to consumers and they stuck with their pricing, which ultimately hurt the success of the xoom. Prime example is the Asus Transformer, they are flying of shelves, not because of the dock as much as the price.
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tumbes20000 said:
I found that every store in the st. Louis area that carries the xoom was sold out so I had to order mine from amazon (not a big fan). So its a bit shocking to hear that sales are bad. Maybe they just didn't make enough. Maybe its been selling fine for motorola and its the market that had unrealistic expectations.
In any case, I think as more manufactures produce more honeycomb tablets the momentum will pick up just like what happened with android phones. The g1 did not exactly fly off the self when it was introduced. Hell I didn't which from blackberry until recently.
Some of this is part of being an early adopter. I mine the ipad2 is simiply a scaled up iphone so no surprise that it works well the os has been out for some time. Honeycomb is a much bigger jump for android and therefore the problems
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HC is new, but overall it is still based on android. Why does it have a lot of bugs?
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From what I have seen so far ... stores are sold out, dont have accesories, (which means it is obviously selling out) and in best buy the tablets are with the computers (not with the tablets!), how are people/consumers supposed to know about it and that it is a tablet that is better than the pad when there is a big ipad2 display while the xoom is over by all the laptops and when you ask for it they take you to the zune stuff?
Oh well, and from what i have seen lately, displays are popping up, I have seen more commercials on tv, and now I hope store start stocking it to show it off.. that is the only way to sell it. I think the xoom will do just fine and as it was mentioned earlier in this thread, xoom will not die because android will not die, just wait and see
XOOM FTW!

Responce from Viewsonic on GB and HC

Hey All Check this out..
This is what i asked Viewsonic on Facebook.
Hello,
can you please let us know when we will start to see the release of Gingerbread 2.3 more stable version with the correct nvidia drivers. Nvidia is willing to work with viewsonic to get a stable and decent working rom for the gtablet. I know this seems odd but there has been about 4 tablets released after viewsonic gtablet that are currently runing Android honeycomb 3.0 and the Gtab is still running froyo 2.2. It is time for a upgrade guys. Please.
Also can you please release the source code for 1.2 to the devs this way we can get better roms built in the 1.2 boot-loader.
This is the answer that i got back.
1. When will we start to see the release of Gingerbread 2.3 more stable version with the correct nvidia drivers?
Answer: The gTablet is based upon nVidia's Harmony platform. Unfortunately, nVidia has chosen not to provide driver support on Harmony for either Gingerbread or Honeycomb.
2. Approximate release date of the source code for 1.2 to the devs this way we can get better roms built in the 1.2 boot-loader.
Answer: A release date is not yet scheduled.
This is what i replied back to them.
Hello
Thanks you for you response. There are a couple things.. Nvidia is not dropping support as per this Link and Nvidia directly. Please see this link. http://briefmobile.c...ms-drop-support
This is up to Viewsonic to push google to support Gingerbread and Honeycomb. Nvidia is willing to provide any kind of support for their recent and their upcoming products.
Also we are all patiently waiting for the release of a stable version of gingerbread. I know that google is holding off on releasing honeycomb but they are not holding off on gingerbread. It has been out and available to all. I would like to know from you as to an approx date as to when we will see this.
thanks
It Looks like viewsonic is Dancing around and playing games again..
What do u guys think...??

I'm going today to get a Xoom or Iconia A500 which unless they're the best thing ever, will be returned in the next 45 days for an Asus Transformer. Viewsonic's tablet is fine for browsing and reading docs/ebooks, but I find their lack of wanting to take excellent hardware and make it even better with excellent software disturbing.

muqali said:
I'm going today to get a Xoom or Iconia A500 which unless they're the best thing ever, will be returned in the next 45 days for an Asus Transformer. Viewsonic's tablet is fine for browsing and reading docs/ebooks, but I find their lack of wanting to take excellent hardware and make it even better with excellent software disturbing.
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Why would you buy a new tablet to return it less than 2 months later?

muqali said:
I'm going today to get a Xoom or Iconia A500 which unless they're the best thing ever, will be returned in the next 45 days for an Asus Transformer. Viewsonic's tablet is fine for browsing and reading docs/ebooks, but I find their lack of wanting to take excellent hardware and make it even better with excellent software disturbing.
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Yeah Why return? I love the A500.. why get the transformer? It doesn't have a rear camera flash or a USB port directly on it.. ips screen a plus yes, but not that big of a deal.. and the A500 will also have a keyboard dock too

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.. and the A500 will also have a keyboard dock too
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First time hearing this. Interesting...

To bad we cant get Nvidia to work with our devs. They are obviously more productive then Viewsonics.

US Merchants is (and always has) been the support mechanism for G-Tablet.
Apparently, Viewsonic has just thrown us to the wolves by passing the buck on that.

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First time hearing this. Interesting...
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I'm pretty sure he's confusing the A500 with the W500. The W500, as a Windows tablet, has a dock. The A500 doesn't have the latch slots on the bottom like the Transformer and W500 (which has two holes, one on either side of the docking port, like the slots on the Transformer). There's no way for the A500 to stay secure in a keyboard dock.

jrm5035 said:
Why would you buy a new tablet to return it less than 2 months later?
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A selfish person is prone to selfish, self serving acts
Would you ask a wasp why it stung you, it's in the DNA.
I can't stand this mentallity of I'm not hurting anyone, it's a big corporation.
Back to the subject:
I only use my GTab for surfing and catching up with broadcast shows, via XFinity. I've got full blown laptops and desktops for more challenging endeavors.
At some point I'll get something like the specs on the Transformer, but I can wait.

LGCubana said:
A selfish person is prone to selfish, self serving acts
Would you ask a wasp why it stung you, it's in the DNA.
I can't stand this mentallity of I'm not hurting anyone, it's a big corporation.
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I actually agree with this statement. The rest of us have to pay a higher price for everything because there are always people wanting to take advantage of the system. A long time ago when I worked as an LEO, one night I forgot I had a mic attached to my uniform and made a politically incorrect statement. I had just arrested an illegal immigrant for DUI. While I was checking his vehicle for towing, I said to the tow truck guy "it's people like this guy that's making the rest of us pay more for our insurance." Well, that comment came back and bit me in the ass later.
I still stand by that comment, and I don't care how politically incorrect it was. People who use loopholes in the system make the rest of us pay a higher price for everything. Retail store theft each year cost us consumers hundreds of millions of dollars. And people who buy something to just try it out and then return it in a couple of months cause us all to pay a higher price for the said product. They also cause those who genuinely did not intend to use it for free but for one reason or other had to return the product can't return it for full refund.
I love my current profession a lot more. I don't have to be politically correct all the time like before. If I see someone taking advantage of the system at the cost of the rest of us paying for it, I say it.
Anyway, back to the subject. The gtab works wonderfully for my purposes. I currently use froyo, and I can't imagine myself moving on to ginger anytime soon. I like stability and speed a lot more than the latest and greatest.
That said, VS really is alienating us by being so resistant to supporting their own product. Until they get better with their support, I will not buy another VS product.

Gtablet could be good/Viewsonic Bad.......
Tried the a500, bad quality on the hardware so returned (qc dep failed on my unit, screen not seated correctly. Viewsonic had a hit, but have really dropped the ball on follow thru! Locking the bootloader was a strong message of intent. Here comes the heresy, bought a win7 tablet (CTL PC2go). As android will not yet do what I wanted a tablet for (everything from surfing to running programs storing transfering files,remote admin, watching netflix on the go, excel word powerpoint, corporate grade security). The build is excellent hardware quality wise, good horesepower for the buck too. Viewsonic goes in my never again bin (some companies have lost thousands of my dollars by getting into this bin). I am old school(cause I am older), every dollar I spend is an economic vote, and viewsonic is going to learn one day, gain a customer, treat them right, and you will soar as they sell your product for you, and buy from you again and again. Disregard a good customer, and they will tell twice as many to avoid you! Nice gadget, but without support that is all it will ever be!

Looking for a new tablet - need help deciding

Hello,
So I accidentally dropped my Lenovo IdeaTab S2110A tablet today and the screen just shattered. So, I am on the market for a new tablet, and I need help finding the right one. As far as "need" goes, I will mostly use it for reading. So any tablet really should do. However, I need help deciding based on these factors:
Has to be running Android L or is Android L ready.
Quick to receive updates/upgrades from its manufacturer. My Lenovo was came with Android 4.0, and although it was 4.1 ready, that never happened. So I need a tablet from a manufacturer that keeps up with providing updates/upgrades.
It has to be one that captures developers interests. I am a flashing junkie, so I need one that I can get it rooted and actively flash new roms. If it is not for need, I will flash a rom just for the sake of it. I never flashed a rom with my Lenovo.
Not a kindle
I can do the research on the technical aspect of it on my own. I am crazy about speed, so I do not want my apps taking a long time to load, and I want it to allow MicroSD Card. A USB and HDMI port would be great, but not necessary.
I am thinking that a Galaxy or Nexus would be my best shot, but I am not entirely sure on the developer's interest part.
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks

what is your budget ? here i have some website which are better ,
i often bought some electronic devices online from them ,most of them
are china brand ,with good price and well-quality .but one shortcomings
it is a little long to get their parcels ,like two weeks .not matter what
i list them belowed ,you can choose them by yourself:
http://www.banggood.com/Wholesale-Android-Tablet-c-1759.html
http://www.kingsbuying.com/tablet-pc/android-tablets.html
http://www.dx.com/
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aag/main?i...=ATVPDKIKX0DER&orderID=&seller=A1CHDTJ9IVXV2B

Albertoonline said:
what is your budget ? here i have some website which are better ,
i often bought some electronic devices online from them ,most of them
are china brand ,with good price and well-quality .but one shortcomings
it is a little long to get their parcels ,like two weeks .not matter what
i list them belowed ,you can choose them by yourself:
http://www.banggood.com/Wholesale-Android-Tablet-c-1759.html
http://www.kingsbuying.com/tablet-pc/android-tablets.html
http://www.dx.com/
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aag/main?i...=ATVPDKIKX0DER&orderID=&seller=A1CHDTJ9IVXV2B
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Budget is not a factor.
These are some very cool sites. My only hesitation with a generic brand is it may not get any development.

Aloupha said:
Budget is not a factor.
These are some very cool sites. My only hesitation with a generic brand is it may not get any development.
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if you want to buy famous brand ,samsung and iphone will be
top list .

Aloupha said:
Hello,
So I accidentally dropped my Lenovo IdeaTab S2110A tablet today and the screen just shattered. So, I am on the market for a new tablet, and I need help finding the right one. As far as "need" goes, I will mostly use it for reading. So any tablet really should do. However, I need help deciding based on these factors:
Has to be running Android L or is Android L ready.
Quick to receive updates/upgrades from its manufacturer. My Lenovo was came with Android 4.0, and although it was 4.1 ready, that never happened. So I need a tablet from a manufacturer that keeps up with providing updates/upgrades.
It has to be one that captures developers interests. I am a flashing junkie, so I need one that I can get it rooted and actively flash new roms. If it is not for need, I will flash a rom just for the sake of it. I never flashed a rom with my Lenovo.
Not a kindle
I can do the research on the technical aspect of it on my own. I am crazy about speed, so I do not want my apps taking a long time to load, and I want it to allow MicroSD Card. A USB and HDMI port would be great, but not necessary.
I am thinking that a Galaxy or Nexus would be my best shot, but I am not entirely sure on the developer's interest part.
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks
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