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[Q] Xoom vs a500 vs Eee Pad

Hi people.
It's my first post in here, and, firstly, i may appologize myself for being a little "repetitive". I already read a lot of similar threads, but none of these answer my question. And, besides it, none of the threads considered a lot of conditions that certainly influence my choice.
I'm about to buy a Tablet, i have 2 options, but i'm still stucked in wich one to buy.
Again, i'm sorry for being repetitive, but this was the last mean i found to finally help me decide wich one.
First, the conditions i'm in(the most relevant are numbere in red):
1- Both tablets (Motorola Xoom 32gb WiFi only and a500), are priced almost in the same(in U$ equivalent U$700);
2- I live in Brazil, and in here all the tech is overpriced, no way i can buy one tablet for the "real" price, or lower, the tech support is hard to reach(specially Acer's one). Considering this fact, when Xoom arrived in here it's cost was something like U$1000, so, it's almost -U$300 now. So, guys, buying it for -U$300 in my conditions, is a great deal.
3- Motorola is about to release the new version of Xoom, so, one of my questions is just about this... Will the support(updates, etc) to Xoom be discontinued? If so, it still be a good option?
4- I loved the full USB port of a500's, but i have a baad, bad, bad history with Acer's support,because, as i said, I live in Brazil, and in here there's no "cheap" technology, and all the support stuff takes a long long time to be solved. in other hand, the Motorola is present in here. And with it i had more "happy enddings" than with Acer(that never fixed my notebook);
5- Again about the USB... I read that Xoom has also support for USB hosting, and i will be able to use a physical keyboard, instead of a Touch one, and, many other features just like: using Pen-drivers, external HD's, mouse & keyboard, whatever... The Xoom has the same support? It's easy to use it's USB capabillities?(with a proper USB OTG host cable, of course)
6- Let's say that Brazil isn't the "safiest" of the countries, specially the city i live in(Rio). Considering this, wich one is more easily to behiden on a backpack, or a bag?
7- I already used a a500 and i noticed that it does not run smoother as i thought. It "freezes" quickly in the main screen, and the app/game(City Jump 2 and CK Zombies) took several seconds to load, but ran nice. In the Xoom is the same?
8- Is it possible to make WiFi Tethering between both of the Tablet's and my Phone(Galaxy Ace)?
So, considering these facts, wich one is more "indicated" to me? Wich one worth's more?
It's a tricky question, but it will surely help me decide what to buy and where do i will invest a LOT of my money in.
Thanks for all of the answers.
p.s.: I appologize myself again, for this question, but i think it was more recommended to make this questions to you, that probably had some experience and/or own one or both tablets.
p.s2.: Don't think if it's necessary, but, i should use the Tablet in College, for games, and etc. And i don't care for the lack of 3G, since i have a mobile with 3G support and a 3G plan.

Please, guys, anyone?? In a few hours i will buy the thing! =(

I wouldn't buy the XOOM since XOOM 2 is just around the corner.
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imo, the xoom 2 is a DOWNGRADE...

n4ndoz said:
Hi people.
It's my first post in here, and, firstly, i may appologize myself for being a little "repetitive". I already read a lot of similar threads, but none of these answer my question. And, besides it, none of the threads considered a lot of conditions that certainly influence my choice.
I'm about to buy a Tablet, i have 2 options, but i'm still stucked in wich one to buy.
Again, i'm sorry for being repetitive, but this was the last mean i found to finally help me decide wich one.
First, the conditions i'm in(the most relevant are numbere in red):
1- Both tablets (Motorola Xoom 32gb WiFi only and a500), are priced almost in the same(in U$ equivalent U$700);
2- I live in Brazil, and in here all the tech is overpriced, no way i can buy one tablet for the "real" price, or lower, the tech support is hard to reach(specially Acer's one). Considering this fact, when Xoom arrived in here it's cost was something like U$1000, so, it's almost -U$300 now. So, guys, buying it for -U$300 in my conditions, is a great deal.
3- Motorola is about to release the new version of Xoom, so, one of my questions is just about this... Will the support(updates, etc) to Xoom be discontinued? If so, it still be a good option?
4- I loved the full USB port of a500's, but i have a baad, bad, bad history with Acer's support,because, as i said, I live in Brazil, and in here there's no "cheap" technology, and all the support stuff takes a long long time to be solved. in other hand, the Motorola is present in here. And with it i had more "happy enddings" than with Acer(that never fixed my notebook);
5- Again about the USB... I read that Xoom has also support for USB hosting, and i will be able to use a physical keyboard, instead of a Touch one, and, many other features just like: using Pen-drivers, external HD's, mouse & keyboard, whatever... The Xoom has the same support? It's easy to use it's USB capabillities?(with a proper USB OTG host cable, of course)
6- Let's say that Brazil isn't the "safiest" of the countries, specially the city i live in(Rio). Considering this, wich one is more easily to behiden on a backpack, or a bag?
7- I already used a a500 and i noticed that it does not run smoother as i thought. It "freezes" quickly in the main screen, and the app/game(City Jump 2 and CK Zombies) took several seconds to load, but ran nice. In the Xoom is the same?
8- Is it possible to make WiFi Tethering between both of the Tablet's and my Phone(Galaxy Ace)?
So, considering these facts, wich one is more "indicated" to me? Wich one worth's more?
It's a tricky question, but it will surely help me decide what to buy and where do i will invest a LOT of my money in.
Thanks for all of the answers.
p.s.: I appologize myself again, for this question, but i think it was more recommended to make this questions to you, that probably had some experience and/or own one or both tablets.
p.s2.: Don't think if it's necessary, but, i should use the Tablet in College, for games, and etc. And i don't care for the lack of 3G, since i have a mobile with 3G support and a 3G plan.
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For all those questions, I think the original Xoom is your best bet. Especially if you plan to unlock/root it and flash a custom kernel, or else update to Ice Cream Sandwich when it's released.
Sorry to answer you late...hope you made the decision for the Xoom.

okantomi said:
For all those questions, I think the original Xoom is your best bet. Especially if you plan to unlock/root it and flash a custom kernel, or else update to Ice Cream Sandwich when it's released.
Sorry to answer you late...hope you made the decision for the Xoom.
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Man, thanks for the help, all of you.
I bought the Xoom!!
I'm glad to have such a piece of hardware!! The only thing i'm not that happy is with the "Protective Film"(don't know the exact name in english) for the screen. It's very, very, very hard to apply. =)

n4ndoz said:
Man, thanks for the help, all of you.
I bought the Xoom!!
I'm glad to have such a piece of hardware!! The only thing i'm not that happy is with the "Protective Film"(don't know the exact name in english) for the screen. It's very, very, very hard to apply. =)
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There are lots of different types of screen protectors--different brands and ways to apply. See this thread for some different information if you don't like the one you have. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=985885

Hey, okantomi!!
U know if the Steinheil shipps worldwide?
BEcause i'm in Brazil, an in here it's hard to find such a Screen shield.
Well, i hope they ship this, 'cause i hate finger prints, scratches, etc.
Btw, one last question...
If, one day i break my screen, Motorola changes it to me? Or is better to buy a new tab?
Thanks a lot.

n4ndoz said:
Hey, okantomi!!
U know if the Steinheil shipps worldwide?
BEcause i'm in Brazil, an in here it's hard to find such a Screen shield.
Well, i hope they ship this, 'cause i hate finger prints, scratches, etc.
Btw, one last question...
If, one day i break my screen, Motorola changes it to me? Or is better to buy a new tab?
Thanks a lot.
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I think Motorola would change your screen but it would cost you a bit of money. But be careful, keep it in a case, and it should be ok. I don't know where Steinheil ships. I agree that the screen protectors that reduce glare and fingerprints are great!

which tablet to choose?

just to let everyone know up front I am not considering any apple tablets, so please do not suggest them
I've been looking at the HTC Flyer, the Samsung Galaxy tab, but am not sure if there are any other decent tablets out there between 7'' - 12''
budgets is about 200-400 quid
I'm just having a hard time making a decision, I'm not bothered about 1080p playback 720p is fine with me, must have a decent processor/gpu as I like to play alot of games as well, must be android only
at least 5mp camera, preferable with the option of being able to root and ICS
do i get a 3g sim or non 3g? what the heck do i do?
hdmi out is a selling point, dual core is a selling point
I won't be making calls on it but I might want to use 3g+ on it if im out and about
rooting and customisation very important
any one got any decent suggestions,
EDIT:
GOT THE XOOM IN THE END, WHAT A TABLET!! its freaking amazing

I hear the Tab is quite good.
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mox123 said:
just to let everyone know up front I am not considering any apple tablets, so please do not suggest them
I've been looking at the HTC Flyer, the Samsung Galaxy tab, but am not sure if there are any other decent tablets out there between 7'' - 12''
budgets is about 200-400 quid
I'm just having a hard time making a decision, I'm not bothered about 1080p playback 720p is fine with me, must have a decent processor/gpu as I like to play alot of games as well, must be android only
at least 5mp camera, preferable with the option of being able to root and ICS
do i get a 3g sim or non 3g? what the heck do i do?
hdmi out is a selling point, dual core is a selling point
I won't be making calls on it but I might want to use 3g+ on it if im out and about
rooting and customisation very important
any one got any decent suggestions,
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This should help you choose lol
droidfather.com/VideoCategory/Android-Tablets

The Asus transformer series are really nice, I'm looking around to get a Samsung Galaxy Tab myself soon, it looks quiet promising.

I would recommend the Motorola Xoom. The development for the device has been stellar, the devs are awesome and has an unlockable bootloader. Cm9 and other wonderful custom roms like Team EOS nightly builds are solid, fast and will make others envious. The Xoom feels solid and is well built. The screen is not as nice as the ones found on the Asus transformer or Samsung Tab but it isn't bad either. Those other screens also have their cons due to the nature of their technology. There have also been a decent amount of complaints about Asus build quality and Samsung lack of timely updates. The Xoom was the first to get ICS, the first to get a cornerstone build, the first to be officially supported tab for Cm9 and continues to have the latest android enhancements via Team EOS roms. Also the proprietary charger charges the xoom pretty fast and the accessories are cheap now due to it being out for a while. Because it was the first to market, it doesn't mean the it is obsolete. I got a bit of a bad rep in the beginning due to screw ups on Motorola part but all is well now.
I have a 4g Xoom and use it every day. I run the Team EOS nightlys, with the device overlooked to 1.4 (i can get 1.6, but not needed) and undervolted to save juice. Feel free to check out the development thread to verify my claims. Cheers!

what about the xoom 2?
i actually like the look of the xoom 1 but the xoom 2 doesnt look great, whats your thoughts

mox123 said:
what about the xoom 2?
i actually like the look of the xoom 1 but the xoom 2 doesnt look great, whats your thoughts
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Don't get the xoom 2. The bootloader is locked, there isn't nearly as much dev support, no custom roms, no micro sd card slot (deal breaker), more expensive and not all the much of an improvement. It also isn't a Google experience device.
Yea, this I will admit the the screen is better and the writing tech is nice. But you will kick yourself for not going with a better supported device. Before I purchase anything, I checked to see how the community support of the device is and recommend that others do the same. I don't want to solely rely on manufacturers for support.

To be honest I would wait for the Windows 8 tablets if you truly cannot buy an Apple device, as all of the Android tablets still suck(to put it mildly). The iPad is just in a whole another league right now, and ICS didn't make the situation any better. They all lag like crazy, even the 7.7 inch Exynos-equipped Tablet from Samsung. The tablet experience just isn't there yet for android.

What ever you do never get an LG V900 or V909, cant be rooted, or just shortly until you reboot.
Unless you like stock and no root.

Have a look to the Acer Iconia 501.

Toss3 said:
To be honest I would wait for the Windows 8 tablets if you truly cannot buy an Apple device, as all of the Android tablets still suck(to put it mildly). The iPad is just in a whole another league right now, and ICS didn't make the situation any better. They all lag like crazy, even the 7.7 inch Exynos-equipped Tablet from Samsung. The tablet experience just isn't there yet for android.
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Wow really? What tablets running ICS have you owned? My Xoom running Team EOS ICS 4.0.3 is smooth an rarely lags.
The ipad hardware is in another league but the software is still Crap. What good is having all of that power and design but only being able to do 1/4 of what an android tablet can do? Also you are limited to whatever apps Apple deems fit in their one appstore. The other other alternative is to jailbreak and uses cydia. Don't even get me started on having to rely on a pc or mac to back up apps and settings usin itunes. On android I just use titanium backup and clockwork recovery to make a full back up to my micro sd card. I have been through that Crap an will never go back. Have you?
I also like how people are assuming windows 8 is going to be the answer for everyone. It can't run your normal desktop apps, I will be more expensive, it will be locked down, possibly more vulnerable due to it being based of windows and missing so awesome features due to limited api access or something similar. Keep in mind the Android was never intended to take on desktop OSs and the ios doesn't come any closer to accomplishing that. ios is worst. I don't care if here are 200,000+ apps, how many fart emulators and angry birds clones do you need? I how many apps do people on average even bother downloading from the appstore? I can tell you it is not 200,000 or even 50.
I will admit that the stock rom may have its issues, the custom roms usually fixes and enhances the user experience. I have only used the Motorola Xoom and Asus Transformer. Both have Cm9 and Team EOS ICS 4.0.3 nightlys available for them that run like butter. I never use stock rom.
ICS is there in tablet experience and will be getting better with release of 4.0.5 and 4.0.4. I wish people wih limited hands on experience would stop making blanket general statements. Not having the opportunity to tinker wih various hardware and software is one thing, but being unsatisfied wih the out of he box experience is another. This is XDA, experiment, create and discover.

ASUS Transformer Series are good and popular

@runhopskipjump: Way to go turning this into an Apple vs Android thread. Read any reputable review site that actually have an objective viewpoint on the matter and you'll come to realize exactly what everyone else has(except for some die-hard android fans): the android experience does not translate well onto tablets yet.
I love android, and have been waiting on an android tablet that would match the iPad, like the SGS did with the iPhone, but alas no tablet has done so yet and with the new iPad, apple leapfrogged the android manufacturers by a year, again.
The only tablet I would even remotely consider is the updated Transformer Prime TF700, but that won't be out until June.
Windows 8 is going to bridge the gap between the PC and Tablet space, allowing tablets to run desktop apps and vice versa. I hate having to have two devices, when one should be enough. The battery life of the current crop of Windows 7 tablets just isn't quite there yet and is the only obstacle keeping me from buying one, and I am hoping that the arm version of Windows 8 is going to remedy that.

thats the problem alot of the hardware does suck, however with the tegra 3 having only 1 gpu core compared to a5x's 4 gpus,
i think apple did the right thing here but I can't support a company like apple
the transformer prime sucks and they have made a new model of the same prime tablet due to issues with the back aluminum and some slight enhancements,
so in a way there is a flaw with those tablets right there and to overcome those you need to purchase the even new model of the prime,
I don't want to be running around, I just want something that will work hardware wise, and the software I can work around with custom roms,

tab
i would chose the samsung galaxy tab

I really recommend you TAB from Samsung Galaxy family

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I'm very satisfied with my galaxy tab 10.1
Covers all my needs, has great ROMs - I've only tried overcome, but there are others - and is overclockable.
Now that I've found the switchme app - me, my wife and child all have our separate accounts on it.
Whatever you get, make sure you have enough internal space for such an app.
It's very convenient for more than one user to be able to have their own google account on a tablet, since they often are shared my more than one user.
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its such a hard choice as they are all good but only one is going to be bought,
I wish I could make up my damn mind

mox123 said:
its such a hard choice as they are all good but only one is going to be bought,
I wish I could make up my damn mind
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If money is no object, you have two choices. Either you want a tablet can double down as a netbook and you go for the upcoming ASUS Transformer tablet (skip the Prime, I've heard from several people that it has connectivity issues), or you're more into consuming media, in which case Samsung Galaxy Tab is really good.
At this point it slowly starts to become a matter of taste. The top competitors are pretty close to each other. I'm curious about the upcoming Google-branded tablet too - I kicked the HTC Sense to the curb after a mere 2 weeks and replaced it with AOSP, so I don't put great trust in third party shells.

Possibly paid ROM development opportunity

I have a Velocity Micro T410 Tablet. It's actually pretty good in terms of speed and such but lacks in the way of ROM capabilities. I bought the tablet because it was promised at the time by the manufacturer that it would be upgraded to ICS by the end of 2012.
A little over a month after I purchase the tablet, the manufacturer announced that all development on the tablet would be halted. This wouldn't bug me so much if the stock ROM wasn't so full of bugs that I've been tempted to call an exterminator on several occasions. When I contact Support to get help, I can usually fix the bug before they even get back to me.
I would like to offer to anybody with dev background to port CM9 or equivalent to this tablet.

Wouldn't have thought...
mattman86 said:
I have a Velocity Micro T410 Tablet. It's actually pretty good in terms of speed and such but lacks in the way of ROM capabilities. I bought the tablet because it was promised at the time by the manufacturer that it would be upgraded to ICS by the end of 2012.
A little over a month after I purchase the tablet, the manufacturer announced that all development on the tablet would be halted. This wouldn't bug me so much if the stock ROM wasn't so full of bugs that I've been tempted to call an exterminator on several occasions. When I contact Support to get help, I can usually fix the bug before they even get back to me.
I would like to offer to anybody with dev background to port CM9 or equivalent to this tablet.
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It's too bad someone didn't find interest in this project. I have a T410 and have been rooted with working GAPPS and a working Market (Play store now) for some time.
Would LOVE to see a ROM for this.

[Q] Looking for information

Hey, as of today I bought the Lenovo A880, I know this is an A850 forum but there doesn't seem to be any A880 forums. I looked at the specs and there are little differences between the two phone, same OS, processor etc. But different GPU (Mali-400), 8GB storage etc.
This is my first time buying a phone from China, or even outside of my home country (Ireland), but may I ask is there anything I need to do to the phone in order for it to work in the European market or even in Ireland?
I'd love some decent advice as I said, I'm a noob at this!
Thank you

MichaelCycleTheBycle said:
Hey, as of today I bought the Lenovo A880, I know this is an A850 forum but there doesn't seem to be any A880 forums. I looked at the specs and there are little differences between the two phone, same OS, processor etc. But different GPU (Mali-400), 8GB storage etc.
This is my first time buying a phone from China, or even outside of my home country (Ireland), but may I ask is there anything I need to do to the phone in order for it to work in the European market or even in Ireland?
I'd love some decent advice as I said, I'm a noob at this!
Thank you
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Most shops sent the device ready for use (inside Europe). There are some people saying that they have signal problems (in USA for ex.) but generaly i think you will not have any problems
If the phone does not have a playstore, rooted and install it or flash it with a pre-rooted rom... most times all these are by default.

GreatApo said:
Most shops sent the device ready for use (inside Europe). There are some people saying that they have signal problems (in USA for ex.) but generaly i think you will not have any problems
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This kinda has me confused, the phone is made for the Chinese market but I can use it in Ireland as if I walked to my local phone shop and bought any phone? Am I getting this much right?
GreatApo said:
If the phone does not have a playstore, rooted and install it or flash it with a pre-rooted rom... most times all these are by default.
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Would you mind explaining this to me? I'm well used to working with computers, this will be the first time I having done anything technical with phones, I just generally used them for calls, texts and social media.

MichaelCycleTheBycle said:
This kinda has me confused, the phone is made for the Chinese market but I can use it in Ireland as if I walked to my local phone shop and bought any phone? Am I getting this much right?
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Yes, most times it is like getting the phone from your nead store.
ZTE are chinese phones but you can go out and buy one from a near store. On the other hand, Lenovo has not expand its phone devices in europe, so there may not be your language in the phone (but good devs have cooked the officials ROMs so these things are available).
An other issue is when the phone is "locked" and this means that is ment to be for only specific companies (ex Vodafone) but most phones are unlocked
MichaelCycleTheBycle said:
Would you mind explaining this to me? I'm well used to working with computers, this will be the first time I having done anything technical with phones, I just generally used them for calls, texts and social media.
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Root means gaining administrator access over your phone. Normally, when you buy a phone you are a user not an administrator. When we talk about android, root access is having administrators rights, on iPhone it is called jailbreak (also on playstation 3 or PSP ). Why to gain access? Then you will have the full control of your phone, which for a normal android user it is not so usefull BUT since you have an XDA account your are not a normal user
The Google Play is the largest app store on androids (most devices have it as a default) but if you do not have it you need root access to install it. Then you can download apps easily from there
Flash means sth like formating/changing the operation system (ex. windows) of your phone. There are ROMs (phone firmwares) made by some developers that may be better than the one you may have. Example: you may be able to move apps to SDcard, the google play will be installed and the phone will be rooted. Most chinese stores install such ROMs before they sent the phone to you
The difference with the PCs is that each ROM is specified for each phone (drivers issues). So you can't just grap a ROM from a850 and put it in a880. The flashing process is also defferent from phone to phone (most times between companies). Ex: if you want to flash a sony phone you do not use the same program you use for a MTK device (like Lenovo's), and yes you flash your phone while you have it connected with your computer.
I wrote you some general info, you can google anything for more details. I hope you got the general idea

GreatApo said:
Yes, most times it is like getting the phone from your nead store.
ZTE are chinese phones but you can go out and buy one from a near store. On the other hand, Lenovo has not expand its phone devices in europe, so there may not be your language in the phone (but good devs have cooked the officials ROMs so these things are available).
An other issue is when the phone is "locked" and this means that is ment to be for only specific companies (ex Vodafone) but most phones are unlocked
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Gotchya, I definitely made sure that the phone was unlocked before I actually bought it, I just can't get over the price difference between Chinese phone companies and International phone companies, for the A880 I paid in the region of €100-€150 I've done a bit of research and what not on it and it's a tad more powerful than the Samsung Galaxy S3 which would cost someone €600-€700
GreatApo said:
Root means gaining administrator access over your phone. Normally, when you buy a phone you are a user not an administrator. When we talk about android, root access is having administrators rights, on iPhone it is called jailbreak (also on playstation 3 or PSP ). Why to gain access? Then you will have the full control of your phone, which for a normal android user it is not so usefull BUT since you have an XDA account your are not a normal user
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Aha! :highfive: I know what you're talking about now, the word 'root' was throwing me off
GreatApo said:
Flash means sth like formating/changing the operation system (ex. windows) of your phone. There are ROMs (phone firmwares) made by some developers that may be better than the one you may have. Example: you may be able to move apps to SDcard, the google play will be installed and the phone will be rooted. Most chinese stores install such ROMs before they sent the phone to you
The difference with the PCs is that each ROM is specified for each phone (drivers issues). So you can't just grap a ROM from a850 and put it in a880. The flashing process is also defferent from phone to phone (most times between companies). Ex: if you want to flash a sony phone you do not use the same program you use for a MTK device (like Lenovo's), and yes you flash your phone while you have it connected with your computer.
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I have a slight idea of it now, I nearly **** myself earlier because I thought I made a HUGE mistake aha! I'll definitely look into it more, thanks for the replies, really appreciated. I'll definitely let you know how I get on and how well the phone works, if you are interested

MichaelCycleTheBycle said:
Gotchya, I definitely made sure that the phone was unlocked before I actually bought it, I just can't get over the price difference between Chinese phone companies and International phone companies, for the A880 I paid in the region of €100-€150 I've done a bit of research and what not on it and it's a tad more powerful than the Samsung Galaxy S3 which would cost someone €600-€700
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Price differences are true. Lenovo a850 (my phone) costs 120€ from china and 240€ in Greece. This is because of the taxies, some stores order these phones (since lenovo has not open its phones in Europe) so there are more taxies.
On the other hand, there are some good choises made by Lenovo to hit the market with a lower cost. Your screen is not the same with S3, it may have twice the pixels your phone has, with a better screen quality. Is this so important? For me, no, but it is for sure more expencive.
The phone's camera most times is lower, and most people (people that do not know anything of computers) search for a new phone based on the camera and the logo on the phone, plus it is more expencive to have a better camera. Less RAM is an other feature of Lenovo phones, based to other devieces you can compare them...
From my stand point, you take what you pay. The trick is to take the phone from China, its half the price. Since i want to have a fast phone, i am ok with a lower camera, i do not care. About the screen, MY TV IS FULL HD, why the hell should my phone also be??? This is far too much...

GreatApo said:
On the other hand, there are some good choises made by Lenovo to hit the market with a lower cost. Your screen is not the same with S3, it may have twice the pixels your phone has, with a better screen quality. Is this so important? For me, no, but it is for sure more expencive.
The phone's camera most times is lower, and most people (people that do not know anything of computers) search for a new phone based on the camera and the logo on the phone, plus it is more expencive to have a better camera.
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I've always had an under-powered phone compared to family and friends, and being into computer I'd much rather have processing power, RAM and the likes. The screen on the A880 will be probably be the best screen I ever had as well as the camera. The most pixels I ever had is probably 2.5 haha
GreatApo said:
Less RAM is an other feature of Lenovo phones, based to other devieces you can compare them...
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Really? The A880 has 1GB of RAM I thought that was good since the bog standard desktops at work have 2GB of RAM
GreatApo said:
From my stand point, you take what you pay. The trick is to take the phone from China, its half the price. Since i want to have a fast phone, i am ok with a lower camera, i do not care. About the screen, MY TV IS FULL HD, why the hell should my phone also be??? This is far too much...
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Yeah and you could buy a half decent camera for €50/60 and still save a couple of hundred Euro!
I just found out that the phone comes already rooted with Google Play installed, sweet!

MichaelCycleTheBycle said:
Really? The A880 has 1GB of RAM I thought that was good since the bog standard desktops at work have 2GB of RAM
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Lenovo A850 is a cheap edition of Samsung Note 2 (no in the appearance). Note 2 has 2 GB of ram... i do not know if is is too much but i know 1GB is good enough for me
MichaelCycleTheBycle said:
I just found out that the phone comes already rooted with Google Play installed, sweet!
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I told you, most sellers take care of such things.

ROM which is really stable

a ROM is not just root device and install it, actually putting a risk to 18k device the most extreme deadliest thing which is attached to our real life, Help us to get things done Quickly, we always asked for more n more that's how we live our life. XOLO company in starting i felt they doing well to make JB to KK but after new model (Hive) feels like he forgotten that his the most expensive handset is still running just KK and XOLO secure apps not running at all, feels like they making headset and making us fool, they making model no software. if you want more features buy new mobile it's not sim which can easily changeable. i still remember when updates come along, so happy when i have Samsung S2, HTC droid 2 and after this xolo even having normal rom from company had soo issue in software a lott bugs even email to XOLO DEV. but as usual they don't reply. collecting money and waiting for more time to stuck on my Q3k and then will buy GalaxyNote7. just rooted my Q3k this week
battery Quality more increased
can force close internal apps even uninstall them
little exposed app made theme like lollipop and changed home button , recent app drawer
if someone who knows the stable and tested ROM please write here and tell me about it
I'm aware of XDA from 3yrs., so much tech geek i'm. one thing i like in ANDROID if you buying a headset make sure that it has cyanogenmod or go to website and look out which device is support, I'm not making any fuss here, just telling and sharing my pov that what i learned from google in these years those person who love to get only updates and tweak in their phone go grab a phone who supports cyanogenmod. :good:
but it's damn right that they all making PHONE only spec updated but software i doubt ,
is it good time to buy a latest smartphone or it's never good time to buy a latest smartphone
note : project ARA might help us can't predict the future but let's see :angel: