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Android and the Fuze!!!!!!

so with t-mobile G1 coming out wendsday i wanted to start a post about the fuze and the android OS. i know the tilt has a bootable version and i searched and found nothing for the touch pro. so i guess my question is does anyone have a working android OS on a TP/FUZE. if there is nobody with one yet when and if one could be available. im interested in this because it is open source.
Thanks
BobMarley2k9

I am also interresting in Android. Wondering if there is something coming for TP!

Everyone's interested, but no one's making a move. No, there's nothing available as far as I know, and there won't be for a while if I were to guess.

i'd have to say that it definitely wont be here until the fuze is released, and probably a few months after that. people need to get their hands on the actual phone to roll the drivers, debug, and work out the kinks. i'm definitely interested in trying it, as this phone is one that will have the horsepower to run it on top of windows mobile (provided most everything is turned off in winmo). here's to hoping that some intelligent soul spends some time on this!

m.carroll said:
i'd have to say that it definitely wont be here until the fuze is released, and probably a few months after that. people need to get their hands on the actual phone to roll the drivers, debug, and work out the kinks. i'm definitely interested in trying it, as this phone is one that will have the horsepower to run it on top of windows mobile (provided most everything is turned off in winmo). here's to hoping that some intelligent soul spends some time on this!
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Oh most definitely, I don't see any problems running it at all... If you can run the memory hogging TF3D on top of WinMo with 288MB RAM, and the G1 comes with 192MB, I think 288MB should be just fine to run Android as well.

no kidding, with TP's spec it would run android much better than G1 does.

baboola said:
no kidding, with TP's spec it would run android much better than G1 does.
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besides the whole capacitive screen thing. do you know if the android os is resolution independent? ie: will it work on the vga screen that is different from the g1's 480×320 screen?
lolz: it will look better in higher resolution!

m.carroll said:
besides the whole capacitive screen thing. do you know if the android os is resolution independent? ie: will it work on the vga screen that is different from the g1's 480×320 screen?
lolz: it will look better in higher resolution!
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Check out zzzphone.com and find a spec for that screen, that'll tell you if it's resolution independent (unless they completely reconfigured it to that phone).

Black93300ZX said:
Check out zzzphone.com and find a spec for that screen, that'll tell you if it's resolution independent (unless they completely reconfigured it to that phone).
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that thing is horribly photoshopped. i'm sorry for scammers, and even more sorry for the people who fall for it.

m.carroll said:
that thing is horribly photoshopped. i'm sorry for scammers, and even more sorry for the people who fall for it.
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I'm not totally sure it's a scam, but the site is horribly set up and that photochopped phone is very misleading. I wouldn't trust custom-built Chinese electronics even if it was legit.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/21/technology/personaltech/21phone.html
You do know what they say though, when something seems too good to be true... 7MP camera, 4 stereo speakers, GPS, wifi, 512MB RAM, touch screen, $459?

LOL
Please tell me that someone listened to the "TV Commercial" on the site!
Funniest thing I've heard in a while LOL!
http://www.zzzphone.com/flash/tv-en.swf
Quote!
"We preinstall your MP3 and MP4 so your phone arrives ready to use!"
So fully circumventing licensing and copyright - NO PROBLEM FOR ZZZ PHONE!

lol! that phone gives me the Zzzz's

It might be possible now:
http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/google-opens-the-floodgates-open-sources-android/
http://source.android.com/

qazzi76 said:
Please tell me that someone listened to the "TV Commercial" on the site!
Funniest thing I've heard in a while LOL!
http://www.zzzphone.com/flash/tv-en.swf
Quote!
"We preinstall your MP3 and MP4 so your phone arrives ready to use!"
So fully circumventing licensing and copyright - NO PROBLEM FOR ZZZ PHONE!
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I stopped the slideshow and left after I saw they couldn't even spell Micro SD, thats a total scammer site.

anyway ...
so now that the source has been dropped by google for android, do you all see HTC developing andriod for future phones even putting roms out for their "current" line.
i looked in the rom dev section, and didnt see anything, but would anyone on this board here be looking into writing for the TPro? I am WAY more interested in a TouchPro with Android than with windows.
i dont think the resistive/capacitive screen matters since android is supposed to be scalable. so ... i dunno whats gonna happen, but id really like to see someone adapt the TPro to android. would they have to start from "scratch" or could they somehow use the build for the G1 and change it to accommodate the TouchPro. similar hardware ... if it was released.
but if anyone has any news, other than scammer sites, id love to hear whats goin on, on the dev side.
thanks!

Chainfire @ MWC2009, Barcelona

Typing this up really quickly as im waiting for lunch, will expand later.
I got lots of pics and vids already, which i may post later if there is any interest.
Android stuff seems to be decidedly absent so far.
@Microsoft: You all probably already heard about WM 6.5, saw some demos live, looks like a decent UI improvement, but its still no iPhone. Also saw some new devices here, including Acer stuff.
@nVidia: I did get a chance to play with a Tegra device, which was really snappy and smooth, but also the size of a small house. Very promising. They did have two normal Tegra devices on display, with names I had seldom heard before, but behind glass.
@HTC: Played with the Touch Diamond 2 a bit. I dont like the new form factor much. It wastes space at the bottom, and introduces a zoom slider that I couldnt get to work in either IE or Opera. They did do some more HTC integration, new startmenu, better contacts list etc. The Touch Max is just an HD with WiMAX.
@Qualcomm: They demod snapdragon, but it didnt seem as impressive as Tegra. Also, I was not allowed to touch the device. The now infamous Toshiba was also there, but again, no touching. BTW Nokia just made a deal with these guys, so abandon ship!
@LG: I was surprised to learn they are switching to WM as primary OS. They had some nice Omnia-like devices though, and the wristwatchphone was also fun.
@Samsung: Biggest surprise here, it seems the OmniaHD is running Symbian! No idea yet if there will also be a WM version.
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The open eco system keynote with Microsoft, Nokia and AT&T CEOS was interesting. AT&T guys was the best, Ballmer a close second with his energetic ways and content, while the Nokia guy almost killed everybody due to excess boredom. The keynote itself was mostly a call for more working together and being generally more open with things, which they all agreed was necessary.
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BTW, I dont know who CBOSS are or what they do, but they do employ an army of hot models!
More later, lunch is here, and I want to find myself a Palm Pre to play with!

ok, just tell me which device to get and that's it. so many out there i can't decide what i want.
JUST TELL ME! AHHH!

Omnia HD!!
HTC's hardware seems to be stuck in 2007 compared to Samsung and LG, heck even Sony Ericsson.
Kinda worrying how ppl are moving towards Symbian, but can't blame them windows mobile really is starting to show its age and no amount of skinning will disguise the fact that it needs a major revamp.

Okay, I was seriously thinking of abandoning the HTC ship for the nokia N97, so I could keep my tilt screen, but now? So if it is not too much trouble, my contract is up in April, could you please corner the AT$T guys and ask them when my new Touch Pro II ( Fuze II ? ) will be available on AT$T? Thanks

Some more stuff... First, somebody at HTC really needs to be fired for putting XT9 on the TP enabled when keyboard is extended. Annoying like hell, finally its off
Found some very nice Android devices that should be out by Q2. The company didnt decide on the brand name yet.
Unfortunately you cant play with the Palm Pre unless you are press.
@Gigabyte (GSmart): some very nice upcoming WM devices. Some were running 6.5 and I played with that. I think somebody made a mistake there!
@iMate: They drowned some of their WM phones. Waterproof!

can you attempt to get the new WM6.5 build ?

Chainfire said:
Some more stuff... First, somebody at HTC really needs to be fired for putting XT9 on the TP enabled when keyboard is extended. Annoying like hell, finally its off
Found some very nice Android devices that should be out by Q2. The company didnt decide on the brand name yet.
Unfortunately you cant play with the Palm Pre unless you are press.
@Gigabyte (GSmart): some very nice upcoming WM devices. Some were running 6.5 and I played with that. I think somebody made a mistake there!
@iMate: They drowned some of their WM phones. Waterproof!
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Any more info on these very nice Android phones?

LOL chainfire,
so you're off to palm some hot models...

xplode said:
can you attempt to get the new WM6.5 build ?
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Just like the old days when we were trying to get our hands on WM5....
ROM DUMP, ROM DUMP, ROM DUMP!!!!!!! (chanting)
Come on Chain, you can do it!

egzthunder1 said:
Just like the old days when we were trying to get our hands on WM5....
ROM DUMP, ROM DUMP, ROM DUMP!!!!!!! (chanting)
Come on Chain, you can do it!
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lol let's hope

mbarvian said:
lol let's hope
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Lol and then he gets caught and gets on Engadget or something.
But you'll be our hero.

well he just needs some time alone with one device (10 minutes will do) and an sd card (or any variant of it - mini, micro)

Chainfire said:
@Qualcomm: They demod snapdragon, but it didnt seem as impressive as Tegra. Also, I was not allowed to touch the device. The now infamous Toshiba was also there, but again, no touching.
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At Toshiba's booth, you can freely play with the TG01. Please see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3339526 for more info & a lot of pics & videos (more to come!!!)

Hey Werner!
You're here? Haven't gotten round to Toshiba's booth yet, but if you're interested, PM me your phone number (plus international code bla bla) and we can meet up, schedules allowing... There will be beer!

No ROM dumps people It's a small booth, can't make it happen.
About those Android phones we saw (and I must stress here, I haven't even seen half of all the exhibits yet because of appointments and speeches etc), first, they looked very nice. One of the sexiest phone designs I've seen in a while, but then it was made by a 'design company'. They originally focused on Linux but switched to Android when it was released. According to them, they are using the default Android 'shell' - which is a shame, because their Linux phone had one of the awesomest shells I've seen in a while. I don't think they really understood me correctly, but it seemed they were saying that for these phones you can get apps to run as root without jailbreaking by getting it certified by them (or something.. wasn't really clear).
There were also some Androids coming out under the General Mobile label, but not necessarily those I mentioned above
And no, we're not palming those models (but perhaps we will? ) but we are sure to do some clubhopping here. It's Barcelona, after all! In fact I just got back from a club
EDIT: Also, at SPB's booth we were shown SPB Shell 3.0 (after being persistent), dont have any pics or vids of that. But it's pretty darn cool. I'm going to buy it when it's out, most likely, beats the crap out of TF3D.

Chainfire said:
EDIT: Also, at SPB's booth we were shown SPB Shell 3.0 (after being persistent), dont have any pics or vids of that. But it's pretty darn cool. I'm going to buy it when it's out, most likely, beats the crap out of TF3D.
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I've taken a video of it; it's at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xv8DDNE3lgA

Menneisyys said:
I've taken a video of it; it's at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xv8DDNE3lgA
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Wow ! Looks great, very cool. Your right, look out TF3D.

Alright !!!! It looks like Chainfire is coming home with the goods after all.
http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,20797,25076342-952,00.html
Well done! A new Touch Pro II and WM 6.5.

hey Chainfire wanna do a beer .
At least i can show u my gratitude for all the work u done.. U here for ur work or what i was looking in to buy a ticket but its simply too expensive

Hehe wasn't me!
Sandbunny: Unfortunately I'm getting on the airplane back home in a few hours

Does anyone else think that MT4G should of been tha natural succesor of the N1?

...or is it just me?

It would have been a better fit. The only thing missing is NFC and this phone would've really shined with some vanilla flavor.
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my feelings exactly.

Yeah, plus the battery life with the N1 and this, have no difference so yeah.
This is one of the top high end Android phone in the US right now and I'm feeling good about it.

oh yea!
i'm gonna be off topic with this comment,but imagine this scenario:
Monday morning,after a busy weekend with your loved ones,cuz of the holydays,you weak up to the sound of your beautifull,new,latest most fullfing android device on the market (my opinion at least, don't even make me start about NS,huuuumunnnnguusss disspointment). Your beloved phone,wich at times could be compared with a second or third girlfriend cuz of the amount of time an android/android based device fanatic actually spends on it,and maintains it, not only by himself,but by an unbelivebly well structured comunity...
Ok,moving on to the point of this scenario,so your MT4G is waking u up,cuz you gotta go to work,right?
Wouldn't it be nice if the first thing u see would be the MT4G in an apple like dock (just gotta admit they make beautifull designs for theyr devices), in a dock like mode in wich you have all the important info u need to start the day,like time,day,temperature,latest news and various updates, and THAN a MENU that gives u,from your bed ,barrely waking up, acces to the most imprtant ,if not all the devices in your home,through whatever wirelles way possible, alowing u to,bassically,customize your day,the same way you know you love to customize your phone...
Now thats where I hope GOOGLE and ANDROID are going, and at the same time beeing opened source and not invade ones privacy ...sorry google,only love for you,but had to say that!
That would be a great way to start your new year. You guys agree?

dani26286 said:
...or is it just me?
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Nope, I completely agree with you and have thought this since day 1. HTC had the g1 and n1 so I was curious why Samsung got the ns.

Would have been nice if HTC would have thrown a SAMOLED2 in the phone, but as someone that moved from a N1 to the MT4G, this phone has been a great successor.
As for the NFC, it would have been nice, but to be honest, I don't see it taking off in the very near future in the US. And by the time it does, we'll probably have a very good replacement from T-Mobile.

dani26286 said:
oh yea!
i'm gonna be off topic with this comment,but imagine this scenario:
Monday morning,after a busy weekend with your loved ones,cuz of the holydays,you weak up to the sound of your beautifull,new,latest most fullfing android device on the market (my opinion at least, don't even make me start about NS,huuuumunnnnguusss disspointment). Your beloved phone,wich at times could be compared with a second or third girlfriend cuz of the amount of time an android/android based device fanatic actually spends on it,and maintains it, not only by himself,but by an unbelivebly well structured comunity...
Ok,moving on to the point of this scenario,so your MT4G is waking u up,cuz you gotta go to work,right?
Wouldn't it be nice if the first thing u see would be the MT4G in an apple like dock (just gotta admit they make beautifull designs for theyr devices), in a dock like mode in wich you have all the important info u need to start the day,like time,day,temperature,latest news and various updates, and THAN a MENU that gives u,from your bed ,barrely waking up, acces to the most imprtant ,if not all the devices in your home,through whatever wirelles way possible, alowing u to,bassically,customize your day,the same way you know you love to customize your phone...
Now thats where I hope GOOGLE and ANDROID are going, and at the same time beeing opened source and not invade ones privacy ...sorry google,only love for you,but had to say that!
That would be a great way to start your new year. You guys agree?
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LOL, I found the first paragraph very ammusing, haha..
I think the reason it wasn't is because TMO wanted to market this phone as theirs because of the video chat capability... and they wanted the consumers to associate a good phone with their name, where as the N1 was googles baby, and while you could look at it and say it was an amazing phone, you didni't really give anymore credibililty to TMO. This way, tmobile looks good to consumers. Looking at things now.... the nexus S blows, but I don't really blame TMO for that, I can blame google or Samsuck for really dropping the ball there...so smart move on TMO part, IMO

Little known fact. The MyTouch3G was going to be known as the Google Ion, and was going to be the precursor to the Nexus Line.
I think the MyTouchHD would of been a perfect phone for the second generation Nexus Line. How ever, they did just over clock the phone to 1.2Ghrz and the quadrant scores look AMAZING.
I think they undercooked this phone. It's so close to being perfect but Samsung doesn't know the difference between sh!t and Shinola

neidlinger said:
Little known fact. The MyTouch3G was going to be known as the Google Ion, and was going to be the precursor to the Nexus Line.
I think the MyTouchHD would of been a perfect phone for the second generation Nexus Line. How ever, they did just over clock the phone to 1.2Ghrz and the quadrant scores look AMAZING.
I think they undercooked this phone. It's so close to being perfect but Samsung doesn't know the difference between sh!t and Shinola
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A Lot Ppl would not know that! That's like explaining something in Russian to a Jew. LoL..
The Mytouch 3G was used heavy as a dev device before the N1 came out. HTC has always been the device not by choice but for not having something else avail. The N1 was basically a revamped version of the Touch and Other Ideas that were on the Drawing Table.
The Nexus S by Samsung is by far hands down the best addition to the Nexus Line. I am also very glad that this is number two in the Line and no other garbage took its place.
Always Remember: The Nexus Line is Google's way of being open with their dev devices, hence "Pure Google". All other devices are literally bastard children that carry a logo that says "with Google" to represent their honorary build.
Sent From a Crop Circle... with a Nexus S

well it's a part of the original "mytouch" line phones ... it's a mt4g not a nexus touch4g. just saying, cause this phone is a successor of the mytouch3g. like how the g2 is for the g1. when the htc hero came out they were calling it a g2, but it wasn't the successor. plus this kills the nexus in so many ways! mytouch has so much custom UI put into it, talking about the slide & this, whereas nexus is just all straight android vanilla without all the bloatware. look at the nexus s, that's pretty much the successor since I heard they won't come out with a nexus 2. but all this is just IMO
dani26286 said:
...or is it just me?
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neidlinger said:
Little known fact. The MyTouch3G was going to be known as the Google Ion, and was going to be the precursor to the Nexus Line.
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No it wasn't. The Google Ion was the developer version of the HTC Magic which came out at least a year before the N1. Never seen any reference to ION being relaunched at the MT3G.

The magic and the mytouch are the same phone. The magic shipped with 288mb ram, the mytouch, until February 2010, shipped with 192mb. Aside from the color, I believe there is no difference between the ion and the magic. Its just that the ion was never on sale to the public, unless I'm mistaken.

PlankLongBeard said:
A Lot Ppl would not know that! That's like explaining something in Russian to a Jew. LoL..
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I guess sarcasm doesn't fit into your vocabulary?

ScottC said:
No it wasn't. The Google Ion was the developer version of the HTC Magic which came out at least a year before the N1. Never seen any reference to ION being relaunched at the MT3G.
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There are two different MyTouch3G phones. The PV32A and the PV32B, The "A" variant is a Google Issued phone. That is the dev phone.

I got the MT4G on release date and I'm still in awe at how well built, and feature packed this device is. If they released this with AOSP and called it the Nexus Two no one would be disappointed. I can't believe that T-Mobile of all carriers released such a high end, future proofed device. Most devices are lacking in some area, but the MT4G isn't lacking at all. It has everything and more. I love this device so much, it's the first android handset I've owned where I haven't had any complaints with it.
There must be some political issues behind Google going to Samsung for the Nexus S and not HTC. HTC makes such better devices. You have the G2 and Desire HD which are industrial business looking devices, then you have the MT4G with a completely different design than anything else on the market and it appeals to almost all demographics. Whether you're a first time smartphone buyer or a seasoned Android veteran you will appreciate this device for what it can offer to you. I'm the latter and I have my MT4G hooked up with Gingerbread (complete with the NS screen off animation) and overclocked to 1.8Ghz. What more can you ask for?
The release of the Nexus S really changed my mind about Google and how they view the Nexus family. I don't think Google gives a **** about the average consumer so they don't include things like HD Video Recording, a Notification Light, FFC, Micro SD Card Slot for people with tons of music and videos etc. Instead they give you the bare bones and honestly, the only reassuring factor for the price is the idea of getting tons of Google updates first. That's all fine and dandy if the phone is priced right. $580 is simply too much for a smartphone that lacks so many features regardless of how you want to argue about it.
Right now the MT4G is the top android device on the market. Even when the first dual core devices come out I will still stick with my MT4G until something comes along that is the successor to it. The next smartphone that I make my daily driver will have to surpass the MT4G in every area; hardware, camera/video quality, screen, design etc.
I've been 100% happy with my purchase since day 1. This is the first time I can say this about any android device I've owned.

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A Lot Ppl would not know that! That's like explaining something in Russian to a Jew. LoL..
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The Russian Jews I went to school with would probably say "That's like trying to explain something to a person who uses extraneous LoL's" or more likely they'd avoid your presence entirely.
The rest of what you said made as much sense.
What would have helped is if you said "No, it wouldn't be the natural successor..." or "Yes, it would have been..." to start out with.
I sure would have preferred the MyTouch 4G as the new Google phone. It has all the extra pieces many phones don't have that a dev might want to test such as a FFC and 4G. Superior to the Nexus S, it has a memory card slot and working GPS (I assume the GPS on the Nexus S is as good as on any (other?) i9000 series phone).
The beautiful (and tough) screen on the Nexus S might be nice, but it doesn't much matter to a developer testing something, n'cest pas?

Case and point for what its worth... I wanted the NS so bad when I heard about it (I had the G1> MyTouch Fender> then finally MT4G. I'm sorry but that NS is a pain in the **** to get when I can just drop by TMobile and pick this one up. F best buy for cell phones I like t mobile stores I pay them I go to them. Plus this phone runs tits rooted and oc'd @ 1.6-1.7 with no crashes at all ... I've had one crash @ 1.8 big woop. And I know for a fact I haven't been able to get this phone to stutter at all it does everything flawless and fast bottom line.
Sent from my HTC Glacier using XDA App

neidlinger said:
There are two different MyTouch3G phones. The PV32A and the PV32B, The "A" variant is a Google Issued phone. That is the dev phone.
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The "A" variant is the HTC magic, released in the UK and in Canada with Rogers. For some reason t-mobile decided to go with the "B" for North America at launch. All Mytouch 3G phones built after February 2010 are A as well. Main difference is the amount of available ram.

excarnate said:
The Russian Jews I went to school with would probably say "That's like trying to explain something to a person who uses extraneous LoL's" or more likely they'd avoid your presence entirely.
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I know lots of Russians, lots of Jews, and several Russian Jews. I'm Jewish and 2/4 (both parents were 1/2) Russian myself.
I just wish everyone could speak English at a respectable high school level so I don't cringe when I read some of the posts around here. English as a second language has a free pass though; learning a second language is HARD.
Back on topic - I totally agree that it must have been political. HTC seems to be the Android leader so Samsung getting the NS came out of left field in my eyes. Not to mention the hardware being blatantly inferior to the MT4G, ie; HSPA+, additional RAM, SD slot. I still don't get that.
Also never understood why the US got the inferior 32B. The entire reason I rooted that thing in the first place was so I could overclock it to try and run Navi and Pandora at the same time. I should have bought a N1 in the first place.

[Q] Building custom android device HELP

First off let me say that if there is a better place to ask this please let me know!
I want to create a portable android device and I am having a little bit of a hard time understanding what I am looking for/need.
What I am trying to do is create a "wearable phone" per-say. Think of the "Fallout" game's PIP BOY... but for android... and be a phone too (really important for it be a phone).
The ideal thing I'm looking for is a android compatible board that has the ability to be flashed (CDMA) for phone service (Ideally Verizon/Cricket). I would like to not buy a phone and tear it apart and use it... I would have already done that if that's what I wanted to do.
I have seen things like Allgo boards and I have also seen things like BeagleBoard that is android compatible and it has a lot of nice ports like ethernet and usb.
I would like options like bluetooth, wifi, cmda, audio out, low power consumption. Kinda basic things for a phone. It also has to be relatively small.
Some things that would be nice but not needed are options like video out, high capacity storage options (usb flash, sdhc card, or solid state), etc. I would possibly look into dual booting into Linux or Windows CE but thats not nowhere near important right now.
As I said if there is a better place to ask this please let me know! Thank you for your time.

it's hard to find one part at a time. it's also more expensive. it's going to get harder when you build your android OS.
you need to have a team. a big one.

The BeagleBoard and AllGo boards already have android support and kits so that shouldnt be too hard to put together for the android side of things.
I figured the phone would be the hardest part. Is there a way to put the phone part into something like a android device/"mini tablet"?

good. you found the hardware. but as i said: find a team.
you need the hardware to interact with the software (and software to interact with the hardware) more like building an app in android SDK. by that you need a programmer, with experience of building a mobile OS (MIUI is based on android 2.3, they made it from scratch). then make a screen size and a chassis, which is hard because you want it like a large digital watch.
find help in this forum. there are alot of devs you know

Phone + strap + superglue = winning??
Sent From My Fingers To Your Face.....

hiu115 thank you for your input. what i would really like to know is if there are resources to make it... team or not. I CAN get a team and CAN program if i need to. I am just at a loss for the phone hardware. The android part (hardware/software) is "easy"... the phone additive is illuding. I need a prototype for proof of concept. A lot of my work is done for me it seems.
if i get nothing else out of this thread I would like to know if it is possible to add (for that matter find and buy as well) hardware for the phone part. I would like CDMA. At least tell me if you know what the part name I am looking for is... and where to find it if possible too.
conantroutman you dont get a thanks... funny though... but not helpful ... that IS kinda the point though. (EDIT meh you get a thanks too i guess)

Will be watching this, I once was thinking about doing it, would be awesome, also if you can get hardware to a similar device which is out it would be easier on the sift ware side
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Here are some examples:
linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/LiquidWare-DIY-Android-Modular-Gadget-Platform/
technexion.com/index.php/arm/ti-omap3530/inferno
(just put www in front)

Cheers I will just look
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Ah ha!!! I think I found a better way to ask and get the answer I'm looking for!
What makes a Android device a phone? (Don't say "that fact that it can make calls" I'm looking for the name of the part)
Is there a way to turn an Android device say either custom built or purchased tablet into a phone with like a 3g modem or similar. If so what is that thing I'm looking for!?!?!

I'm not sure if this is of anyhelp, but details of a Qualcom GSM/CDMA chipset
http://www.mobileburn.com/news.jsp?Id=145

Ok... if you want to build a custom android device, the first thing you need is a template... Start with a development board.
The beagleboard is a great board to work with, however it's large and you won't be able to use it other then a tablet on its own....
The KIT-S5PC110 deb board is a good one
People recommend PandaBoard over BeagleBoard as they are basically the same specs but the PandaBoard is dual core.
Here's a link to ARM Dev boards http://www.armdesigner.com/products.html
I do believe that if I were to select a kit for development currently, based on what I've seen out there, I'd go with a originboard. http://www.origenboard.org/
Now, the other thing you will need is to learn some asian language Here in the USA, we are falling behind on mobile technology. You will find more Asian language forums then you will english
Once you have played with the OS a bit, and figured out the specs, you will have a custom circuit board made. Basically for board manufacture, you will simply eliminate all the features you do not want on the dev board to make it smaller. Then you make the board with the remaining hardware. You can probly talk to the Origen guys to get one made. They make their hardware as open as possible, so they will give the specs to the manufacturer of your choosing. This is where it gets costly.
After the board is created, you will build a custom housing for your box. You can prototype these housings on a 3d printer like RepRap or MakerBot... This requires precise CAD drawings. Or you can source it out to someone else.
Finally, build a box and slap a price tag on it.
It's usually a large effort to build a custom android device... However, check this article out from Hackaday.com today: http://hackaday.com/2011/10/10/how-to-build-a-23-android-tablet/

There have been a few fallout builds on hackaday in the past (I'm a daily reader).. http://hackaday.com/2011/09/06/fallout-brought-to-life-with-this-working-pip-boy-3000/

MacaronyMax: thanks that was informative i didnt knwo they could do that
AdamOutler: You seem to know what you are talking about. I do know some Japanese btw but what I really wanted to gain is can a phone module be added to call people from it. I would like to do this without needing internet like wifi connection. I would like to flash it and use a phone number to call people and recieve calls. CDMA would be preffered.

Most of the manufacturers keep cellular technologies locked down. That's the single bit of power they maintain. The rest of the board can be open source, but they lock down the cellular technologies.....
With that said, you can get a "CDMA Cellular Module" for just about any purpose and communicate with it via GPIO(power), UART(Data) and I2C(controls). That would be one way of going about it....
An easier method might be to grab a Samsung Captivate from Ebay, remove the housing and build around what's left. I say Captivate because they are around $200, decently fast, and they are rather slim.... Also, they can be modified to be UnBrickable and we've done alot of research and custom roms in the Captivate Development Forums... an i9000 may be even better, but it's got a larger case... Captivate and i9000 are basically the same phone and some of the most active development forums on the site.
Using a prebuilt device and remanufacturing the case would suit your requirements and possibly be easier I think.

Ok so what I have found are these things called "PCIe minicards" that can do cmda/gsm/gps/wifi and all that good stuff. Is this what your talking about?
If I found a board, that has the slot for it, will this be able to be used for voice calling over say Verizon/Cricket if I added it to my plan? If so would this be flashable with qpst/cdma ws or what would I use to program?
I also noticed some boards having what appears to be the same device (usualy wifi/gps ony) but it looks soldered on. Might replacing one of those for one with cdma capabilities work? (I think i saw this on a new pandaboard)
The reasons I dont want to use a pre-exiisting phone is because 1) I dont get to learn anything 2) I can't "upgrade" anything and 3)I don't want limitations set by manufacturer (ie. phone needing root, etc)... plus I kinda like the from-scratch look of things.

[Q] Crowd-funded QWERTY device

I've been pondering this for a while.
I'm still on my HTC Desire Z (or G2) and the one reason that keeps me from upgrading is the keyboard. I own a Nexus 7 and I've played around with the new phones and they're awesome, but the typing experience of a physical QWERTY keyboard is still simply unmatched.
I still dream of having a device with a
Full QWERTY keyboard with Z-mechanism like on the HTC I currently have
4.2" full-HD display
At least 2GB of RAM
Quad-core processor
High capacity battery
Good cameras
Full root access from factory & vanilla Android
There are a ton of cool pieces of hardware on crowdfunding sites like Kickstarter and IndieGogo. I wonder how much it would cost to be able to manufacture a similar phone, with modern specs. With the right people behind it, I believe it could be a success.
I mean, these guys managed to gather 12 million:
http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge

No comments? I guess I'm the only one who's waiting for one of these devices then...

Sechzman said:
Full QWERTY keyboard with Z-mechanism like on the HTC I currently have
4.2" full-HD display
At least 2GB of RAM
Quad-core processor
High capacity battery
Good cameras
Full root access from factory & vanilla Android
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Hahahaha, This is the ultimate device for some. But if this would be crowfunded. You will have alot of issues. (believe me you will)
Who's gonna manufacture it?
Who's gonna provide the software? (okay we are on a developers site but still )
Who's gonna be there for support?
etc.
We all want this kind of device. I only dont see it happening. But it ever is gonna exist. You have my support

E-13 said:
Hahahaha, This is the ultimate device for some. But if this would be crowfunded. You will have alot of issues. (believe me you will)
Who's gonna manufacture it?
Who's gonna provide the software? (okay we are on a developers site but still )
Who's gonna be there for support?
etc.
We all want this kind of device. I only dont see it happening. But it ever is gonna exist. You have my support
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Well, hey. Someone's gotta do it, and you have to start somewhere. Everything starts with an idea. I'm just throwing something random in the air here to see what others have to say about it.
I don't have the knowledge personally to get from start to finish, but there are plenty of people out there who do. I have no idea what it would cost, for starters, and how hard it is to get all the legal things figured out. And who knows, maybe there are agreements to be made with manufacturers.