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Follow this link on how-to. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829662
I can confirm that this mod works for the MyTouch 4G. I've tested it, and was able to remove some of my unwanted apps.
Yes, I can reboot my phone, and the apps will not appear again.
Please read the warning as you will no longer recieve OTA's once you do the MOD.
I am in no way responsible for any damage done to your phone.
Instead of force removing I put them on freeze. Will that stop OTA as well?
myTouch4G (Glacier)
HeavyComponent said:
Instead of force removing I put them on freeze. Will that stop OTA as well?
myTouch4G (Glacier)
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Running Visionary will prevent root period until you remove it. If you remove apps then you have to go back to stock by way of fastboot. If you freeze, then just restore what was frozen and remove visionary. Then you should be good.
Ok but my question wasn't answered. Let's say I don't restore the apps and I keep visionary with my phone rooted. Will I still get the OTA?
myTouch4G (Glacier)
How would this work with a full reboot (no fastboot)? No writes or deletes can be done on the system partition. Unless, Titanium is freezing the app, in which case the app wouldn't even appear in the app drawer. It's still there however. Have you checked with Root Explorer to determine whether they exist in /system/app after reboot (fastboot off)?
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Ok but my question wasn't answered. Let's say I don't restore the apps and I keep visionary with my phone rooted. Will I still get the OTA?
myTouch4G (Glacier)
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He said it blocks otas, you won't need them since that's the point of being rooted....You can get rooted otas from devs here, which is what xda has done for years.
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Ace42 said:
He said it blocks otas, you won't need them since that's the point of being rooted....You can get rooted otas from devs here, which is what xda has done for years.
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He said "force removing" will block OTA. I'm talking about just "freezing" them. I understand being rooted will get rooted OTAs from the devs and that's faster then actually waiting.
floepie said:
How would this work with a full reboot (no fastboot)? No writes or deletes can be done on the system partition. Unless, Titanium is freezing the app, in which case the app wouldn't even appear in the app drawer. It's still there however. Have you checked with Root Explorer to determine whether they exist in /system/app after reboot (fastboot off)?
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I removed VISIONary, Fastboot off, did a full reboot, checked /system/app and can tell you that I no longer have the apps tha have been removed in my phone.
OK, thanks for the reply. How does even make sense in light of the fact that any changes to /system are only reflected in the cache, and NOT to the system partition on NAND locked devices?
I have another question. After force removing the unwanted apps. Does the space that was being used by the apps return to the device?
myTouch4G (Glacier)
HeavyComponent said:
I have another question. After force removing the unwanted apps. Does the space that was being used by the apps return to the device?
myTouch4G (Glacier)
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The bloatware apps exist on the /system partition. Your installed user apps go to the /data partition, so the answer is no.
Oh ok cool. Thanks for the fast reply.
myTouch4G (Glacier)
Ace42 said:
He said it blocks otas, you won't need them since that's the point of being rooted....You can get rooted otas from devs here, which is what xda has done for years.
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Perhaps you missed the point that both G2 and MT4G are both write-protected so the only chance of getting OTA for those handsets (at least for now) is official T-mo update.
borodin1 said:
Perhaps you missed the point that both G2 and MT4G are both write-protected so the only chance of getting OTA for those handsets (at least for now) is official T-mo update.
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I'm sure he means AFTER perm root is found (if it is), not currently.
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I used Titanium to freeze some apps (hate faves popping up all the time). After doing a full reboot, they were still frozen. I could not find a few like Yahoo mail, which keeps on popping up.
It seem that available memory went up as a result - over 1gb rather then just under.
I think I will stay with this rather then forced removal through the terminal emulator.
http://rootzwiki.com/_/articles/tacoroot-brings-temporary-root-to-all-htc-devices-r281
What do you think guys? Will this work? Is it safe to use? Can I use it to remove bloatware ? Which console app should I use?
Temp root + s-on = only stop bloatware from running on one boot. When you reboot, you'll lose temproot, plus all it's changes since nothing can be saved.
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geoffcorey said:
Temp root + s-on = only stop bloatware from running on one boot. When you reboot, you'll lose temproot, plus all it's changes since nothing can be saved.
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What if I install titanium backup and freeze some apps? or I need S-off in order to install recovery?
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What if I install titanium backup and freeze some apps? or I need S-off in order to install recovery?
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Your bloatware will stay gone if you freeze/delete with TB. This is a good option for people who just want to remove bloatware.
Matt
mrg02d said:
Your bloatware will stay gone if you freeze/delete with TB. This is a good option for people who just want to remove bloatware.
Matt
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Even with s-on? That doesn't make any sense since you need to write to /system to freeze apps.
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interesting. I've been too lazy to root (I did one click my Nexus one),but I do have Titanium backup purchased from my n-1. I would like to remove bloatware without rooting the sensation. Keep me updated.
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Even with s-on? That doesn't make any sense since you need to write to /system to freeze apps.
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Freezing apps is not done by writing to the system partition.
Hello,
How are you?
So, I have my new sensation. So far, I'm pretty happy with the phone.
The only thing is that it came with some apps I don't want but can't remove.
Said apps like vodafone music, 360 shop, Tetris trial, dice, etc...
I would really like to clear my phone of said apps.
I don't want to install custom ROM however.
I am more than happy with the stock and would like to be able to receive future official Ota updates.
I read that titanium backup can remove said apps.
My question is of it removes them completely?
Also. for it to work, I read it needs the phone to be rooted.
So, does rooting my sensation, prevent Ota updates?
If I just root the phone and keep everything else stock will I be able to use titanium backup and still receive Ota official updates?
Please help me out.
Thank you.
Cheers!
With Titanium Backup you can remove apps, or use a Startup Manager" to prevent apps from start.
If you gain root acces you will not be able to receive OTA upgrades/updates anymore.
jkolner said:
With Titanium Backup you can remove apps, or use a Startup Manager" to prevent apps from start.
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If I use the startup manager, will the apps still be on the app tray?
Cheers!
JJnJ said:
If you gain root acces you will not be able to receive OTA upgrades/updates anymore.
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Bummer...
Will this happen even on stock recovery?
Cheers!
Yeah, I would recommend rooting and flashing a custom rom that's basically stock but it's just been slightly improved. That way it's nice and clean, and updated.
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Yeah, I would recommend rooting and flashing a custom rom that's basically stock but it's just been slightly improved. That way it's nice and clean, and updated.
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What would be a rom like that?
Thanks!
Cheers
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1360519
That's TMX SS 4G. Frankly, it's one of the smoothest roms I've ever used and there aren't any visual changes or anything like that. The photos are really bright for some reason, but the rom is perfect.
you really dont have to flash a custom rom if you dont want too,
you can simply gain s-off, super CID, and root and still stay with your stock rom if you wanted, and still be able to remove all the bloatware you want
but as anyone once you gain root and s-off and start looking at the Dev threads you see lot a goodies you want to try and use
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you really dont have to flash a custom rom if you dont want too,
you can simply gain s-off, super CID, and root and still stay with your stock rom if you wanted, and still be able to remove all the bloatware you want
but as anyone once you gain root and s-off and start looking at the Dev threads you see lot a goodies you want to try and use
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Now I'm confused...
If I gain root access, can I get it free of all the bloatware, and keep everything else stock...
I also saw a few guides here, but I am also co fused with the information overload.
Can i root the phone and install a sensation xe room with 1.5ghz CPU and everything else stock?
Cheers!
If you gain root..you can just keep the ROM as is..and use Titanium Backup to freeze or delete any of the bloatwares you don't want. Freezing is probably best so you won't mess anything up. If you don't like the ROM at all...then you can flash the custom one. I pretty much just froze the programs all along, until recently when trying to check out the ICS. Back up a Nandroid of your unchanged ROM, and you can always go back to it.
Freezing your apps does not remove them.
The easiest way to remove while wanting to stay STOCK, is to simply root your phone...install Root Explorer from the Market...delete the apk files from /system/app and /data/app that you do not want...then unroot.
troby86 said:
Freezing your apps does not remove them.
The easiest way to remove while wanting to stay STOCK, is to simply root your phone...install Root Explorer from the Market...delete the apk files from /system/app and /data/app that you do not want...then unroot.
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Now this sounds good...
Are there any guides for this on sea?
There are so many threads on android development, I don't know wich to follow...
Cheers!
gdourado said:
Now this sounds good...
Are there any guides for this on sea?
There are so many threads on android development, I don't know wich to follow...
Cheers!
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Just follow this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
It will probably take you about an hour to complete, depending on how experienced you are, but you do not need to complete the SuperCID portion since you are not flashing anything.
Step 5 will tell you how to revert everything once you have deleted your APKs.
FOLLOW EVERYTHING CLOSELY!!!
BTW...is there a reason you do not want to stay rooted?
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gdourado said:
Now this sounds good...
Are there any guides for this on sea?
There are so many threads on android development, I don't know wich to follow...
Cheers!
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Also, you can try the Temp-Root method here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1149998
This bypasses alot of steps, but provides temporary root, it might allow you to delete the APKs with Root Explorer, haven't tried, but I see no reason why it shouldn't.
Another option for me would be to root the phone and install a custom rom.
The thing is there are so many roms, I don't know which to use.
I would like a sensation xe rom, as stock as possible and bloatware free.
With the CPU at 1.5.
What's the best rom for that?
Cheers!
I think as long as you keep stock recovery you can still get ota updates.
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If you gain root acces you will not be able to receive OTA upgrades/updates anymore.
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NOT TRUE. If you are rooted, you can still get OTA. I know, I did it to my N1. It's just that it might not update if you have a custom recovery. and IF you update with an OTA, it will most probably unroot the device.
Well if you really want to stay stock, that's not a problem. Just follow the guides out there to S-OFF and root, they're very straight forward. After that, use Titanium Backup to remove them from your phone - there's really no need to freeze bloatware, you'd really only want to freeze actual system applications just in case, but I don't think removing Amazon MP3 from your phone will cause an OS crash.
Things like Facebook, Twitter, Amazon Kindle, etc etc can be safely removed from the system permanently.
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Well if you really want to stay stock, that's not a problem. Just follow the guides out there to S-OFF and root, they're very straight forward. After that, use Titanium Backup to remove them from your phone - there's really no need to freeze bloatware, you'd really only want to freeze actual system applications just in case, but I don't think removing Amazon MP3 from your phone will cause an OS crash.
Things like Facebook, Twitter, Amazon Kindle, etc etc can be safely removed from the system permanently.
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So, should I follow the s-off and root guide? Or do the permanent root?
Can you point me to the correct guide?
Thanks.
Been reading some more...
What if I debrand my sensation.
S-off, cid to HTC_001
And then install a stock ruu.
That would do it right?
No vodafone bloatware and Ota updates, right?
Does stock ruu come with Simms trial, Tetris trial?
Cheers!
Hey guys,
First off, I am an admitted noob. From what I can tell, updating to 2.20/4.04 will un-root your device so I'm looking for a way to disable the update notification. Is there a way to get it to stop bugging me until 2.20 is rooted?
Also, how do upgrades generally work when you're rooted and want to maintain root?
Thanks!
Hey mine was bugging me and I just cleared the data for updater and it hasn't bugged me for the last two days.
Settings > Apps > All > Updater
Then clear everything you can (cache,data)
Good luck
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Goood
footbal9584 said:
Hey mine was bugging me and I just cleared the data for updater and it hasn't bugged me for the last two days.
Settings > Apps > All > Updater
Then clear everything you can (cache,data)
Good luck
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Thanks! So how does updating work? Do I wait for 2.20 to be rooted, update, and re-root? Or install a pre-rooted image of some sort?
nyteroot said:
Thanks! So how does updating work? Do I wait for 2.20 to be rooted, update, and re-root? Or install a pre-rooted image of some sort?
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Something like that
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If you are rooted, you can flash the update rom here;http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1812459 . it keeps root and unlock..
gentzleon said:
If you are rooted, you can flash the update rom here;http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1812459 . it keeps root and unlock..
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I am rooted -- do I need to unlock my bootloader too to flash a rom? I haven't done that yet because my understanding is that it wipes all the user data from your phone...
nyteroot said:
I am rooted -- do I need to unlock my bootloader too to flash a rom? I haven't done that yet because my understanding is that it wipes all the user data from your phone...
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To flash a rom you need to unlock the bootloader which will wipe all user data not your sd card just data.
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Normally with OTAs, after the OTA is downloaded, you will have the option to install or not. Just cancel, then delete the file from the SD card. Somebody will have to verify this is the case (haven't gotten the notification, personally), but that is normally how HTC does it. You have to be really careful not to hit the wrong option. But once you've cancelled the install, you won't get any more notifications for this particular OTA.
Really, the "settings" method suggested by footbal9584 seems much safer (as a wrong button press will actually install the OTA for my way). But if his method doesn't work, you might try mine.
Also, all the info you will probably ever need about unlocking the bootloader, flashing ROMs, etc. can be found in my Index thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671237
There you will find a method for keeping your user data while doing the bootloader unlock. But honestly, I'd recommend not going through the hassle. If you intend to flash custom ROMs, you should wipe data anyway.
E.Cadro said:
To flash a rom you need to unlock the bootloader which will wipe all user data not your sd card just data.
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Is there a good way to backup/restore? I've seen both NANDroid and Titanium Backup Pro recommended on here. Which one is best for backing up all my apps, settings, etc. so I don't have to redo all that after I unlock?
EDIT: Whoops -- didn't see post above. The method there uses dd to do a block-level backup -- does one of the above methods work, or not so much?
nyteroot said:
Is there a good way to backup/restore? I've seen both NANDroid and Titanium Backup Pro recommended on here. Which one is best for backing up all my apps, settings, etc. so I don't have to redo all that after I unlock?
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Nandroid is a full backup of the ROM, all user data, apps, and settings. If you are flashing custom ROMs, that is not what you want for restoring user data, etc. But its a good idea to do a nandroid backup of the stock ROM, in case you want to go back.
Titanium Backup is great for backing up user apps, and some settings. Some people use it to restore various settings, but this can be problematic, as all ROMs don't treat this data the same. Personally, I just use Titanium to backup and restore my apps and app save data, and sometimes WiFi and Bluetooth pairings. But I configure everything else manually. Usually takes me about 20 minutes to do it all when moving between ROMs.
footbal9584 said:
Hey mine was bugging me and I just cleared the data for updater and it hasn't bugged me for the last two days.
Settings > Apps > All > Updater
Then clear everything you can (cache,data)
Good luck
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Anyone know how effective this is? I postponed the update again today because I want to keep root like any sensible xda member, but it told me I cannot postpone any longer after this and it will just have to option to install now. I don't have my computer right now (at HP repair center) so unlocking bootloader isn't an option right now
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Anyone know how effective this is? I postponed the update again today because I want to keep root like any sensible xda member, but it told me I cannot postpone any longer after this and it will just have to option to install now. I don't have my computer right now (at HP repair center) so unlocking bootloader isn't an option right now
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Did not work for me -- I started getting chain notifications, hella annoying.
NOTE: even when the only available button is 'Install', the back button on your phone still works.
If I freeze the updater, will it break my phone?
I do not know I highly doubt it would but no guarantees. I cleared my data before it downloaded anything it just started the "there is an update you cannot use tour phone during install do you want to install now" I postponed it 8 hours a few times, but then just cleared the data and still haven't gotten any notifications.
Maybe see of what the other user said is correct maybe the update was downloaded to your phone and you need to remove the file before it will leave you alone.
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Did not work for me -- I started getting chain notifications, hella annoying.
NOTE: even when the only available button is 'Install', the back button on your phone still works.
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At least on other devices, if you let the OTA download, then cancel it, it should stop the notifications. Can you confirm or deny this?
You can then just find the file on the internal SD and delete it. At least that is how it worked on the HTC Flyer.
If you can confirm, this would probably be a handy method for others. At least one other person is asking how to cancel the install (and other that want to stop the notifications, I'm sure): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29903041
Update: nevermind I restarted my phone today and ad soon as it booted up I got the is your last time to postpone message so I cleared updater again but now every time I unlock my phone I'm prompted to update and just have to push the back button. Sorry I'll keep looking into it.
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Ok the file did download on me, it was in the download folder on the sd card named OTA-Evita........... So I deleted it and I'll post back soon with the results.
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Ok the file did download on me, it was in the download folder on the sd card named OTA-Evita........... So I deleted it and I'll post back soon with the results.
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Finally got my last chance to postpone. Glad you posted exactly where it was located. Deleted and hopefully it wont update.
Thanks!
footbal9584 said:
Hey mine was bugging me and I just cleared the data for updater and it hasn't bugged me for the last two days.
Settings > Apps > All > Updater
Then clear everything you can (cache,data)
Good luck
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Thanks for this info. I went one step beyond that and backed up and uninstalled the updater and updater setup within Titanium Backup. Will report back if anything gets messed up.
I just got root on my brand new one x! Is there a list of which bloat apps i can freeze/disable/uninstall? I want to remove any possible battery drainers. I havent got the courage to try to unlock my bootloader lol but maybe later
Also is there any way to disable AT&T's update thing, i dont want to lose root by updating. Do i just disable "updater"?
yes, its located in the search box
found the bloat list but does anyone know if i can disable "updater" and if that will stop the AT&T OTA notification
joshuadjohnson22 said:
I just got root on my brand new one x! Is there a list of which bloat apps i can freeze/disable/uninstall? I want to remove any possible battery drainers. I havent got the courage to try to unlock my bootloader lol but maybe later
Also is there any way to disable AT&T's update thing, i dont want to lose root by updating. Do i just disable "updater"?
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Unlock bootloader and install recovery, flash a ROM. This will take care of both the bloat and the at&t update. The update will happen if you don't do something other than turn off the phone
not worth debloating stock AT&T rom. just flash a custom rom.
DvineLord said:
not worth debloating stock AT&T rom. just flash a custom rom.
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FALSE ! the stock rom is fine once debloated !
on the stock rom the deal breaker for me was that you can't remove HtcLinkify and no Quick Settings, Advanced Power Menu, 100% Battery Mod.
I attached a possibly hard to understand .txt documenting the changes and notes i took for my 2.20 debloating.
Flashed viper and never been more happy
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